Smith & Wesson 360 PD Review

[@potoole]

Very well done. 99% of gun reviewers on KZbin completely fail to show this level of accuracy of information. Love it and thank you.

[@davidbarnes7711]

One of the most accurate reviews I have seen. I have a 360PD and a P365 and my experience is identical to yours. Very different weapons but I am able to carry the 360PD in ways that I cannot with the P365. I use the Speer Gold Dot 135gr .357 rounds and it is very hard kicking in this revolver. Luckily, I was not compelled to "break in" the 360PD with 200+ rounds. FWIW, I have equipped both with green laser sights- really helps the 360PD with my old eyes. Lastly, I am resolved o firing double action with the 360PD as my single action trigger pull is too light to trust in a self defense situation- at least for the first round.

[@derektrujillo2292]

this is great review. I have the same gun carry it everyday. I don't think most people understand how light it really is until you hold one

[@cymanca]

Best description I ever read using the Hornady 158 gr was “ it is like shaking hands with electricity”. It is my shorts and t shirt gun here in SoCal, incredibly light and with a heavy DA , I am not afraid to carry it unholstered stuck in my pocket. And at 15 yards with a lot of painful practice I feel pretty confident that with a good jolt of adrenaline it will shoot like my G43.

[@BrandonN3496]

Awesome review, looked very professional!

[@alrbredwall]

This was an excellent comparison of these two firearms. Thank you for this.

[@raymuccianti9438]

So it's anything less than 120 grain 357 should not be used?

[@1911bg]

Yes

[@John-ty8pq]

Thank you for this video. I went ahead and bought the 360 PD. I will only fire 38 specials for my purpose. It for self defense and targets should no further be 10 yards.

[@MrLunchHour2]

2:45. You said that wrong you can only use 120gr or heavier. Don’t use lighter rounds

[@raymuccianti9438]

OK, thanks. I thought I heard a contradiction in the beginning and was a little confused.

[@abe1365]

I have this same gun. I usually carry Buffalo Bore FBI load. It is still a handful, but much easier to shoot than full magnums.

[@brrepublic8174]

Anyone know where to find the Speer 357 135 grain load? Seems to be out of stock everywhere.

[@andreahighsides7756]

Its not the coating that erodes, it is the actual titanium cylinder.

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

These are great little guns. Only downside to the 360PD is the hammer. I prefer no hammer to avoid snags, that's why I got a 340PD.

[@BOB-wx3fq]

Why not get shrouded or even Bob it.. I like having the SA option

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

​@@BOB-wx3fq A few reasons: 1. Legal reasons. If you have to shoot somebody in self-defense and you cock the hammer back on your gun first, that can destroy your whole "self-defense" case. Because a good lawyer will ask "If you had time to cock the hammer back, then how come you didn't have time to run?" Also cocking the hammer back shows you had time to think about what you were doing, which can hurt your case if you were claiming to be in fear for your life and acting on instinct. 2. If I ever need to fire from a pocket then an enclosed hammer is the best option. 3. With these little guns, anything I would be shooting at would theoretically be so close to me that I wouldn't need the improved accuracy that comes from being able to cock a hammer back.

[@BOB-wx3fq]

@@PatrickPierceBateman A, you don't tell them you cocked it and consciously took a moment to shoot, not to mention that would be the absolute least of my worries if for any reason I'm in a deadly shooting B. A shroud let's you shoot from the pocket C. It's just an extra feature, the 38 is equal to greater than the 42 I could see someone not liking the chiefs special for this reason

[@ArizonaAirspace]

@@PatrickPierceBateman Obviously you are not a criminal defense attorney. If someone is running towards you with an ax, the prosecutor is not going to ask you why you had the time to cock your revolver. You win the dumbest remark on KZbin.

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

@@ArizonaAirspace You're very ignorant about the law and firearms. A prosecutor can easily make the case that you weren't truly in fear for your life if you had enough time to think to cock the hammer back. They can also make the case that the shooting was accidental due to the hair trigger effect you produce after cocking a DA revolver. And if you're in a state that doesn't have a "stand your ground law", you could be on the hook for manslaughter. Next time maybe do a little research before commenting.

[@oldcop18]

I used .38 +P more than once during my career and it worked every time. I keep my 340PD loaded w/110 grain +P b/c accurate follow up shots are next to impossible, at least for an old guy like me.

[@somethingsmith3242]

Nice video, minus the hallow aluminum grinding sound. I prefer the 638 for several reasons. IMO, the .38 Special +p, or even the standard pressure .38 in a heavier round configuration is more than adequate for self defense situations. For me the follow shot setup outweighs the added energy of the .357 round. Stopping power is all about shot placement. All the power in the world does no good if the round doesn't hit the vitals. The lesser powered .38 Special with a heavier grain round will easily penetrate to the vitals and with much less felt recoil which should allow for more accurate followup shots, if required. JMO, again nice video and thanks for the review, enjoyed it.

[@petepan7822]

I was told by S&W that the 120gr. -minimum holds for both .357 and .38 and that you should not go lower in any of these calibers. Where did you get the info that sub-120gr is fine with .38 rounds? In any case, thank you very much for the detailed in-depth video.

[@fate930]

@@petepan7822 my gunsmith who has been shooting them since they came out, it's the Magnum ammo yiu have to worry about. That being said I ditched the 360pd years ago

[@horatiobeaker]

One clear upside of the revolver is that you can just put it unholstered into your pocket and be pretty darn safe.

[@claytonleatherwwood4359]

Can someone link the holster? When I look it up online it doesn’t appear to be the same as this. I can’t find a picture of this holster online.

[@fate930]

stealthgearusa.com/ventcore-1-0-appendix-iwb-holster/

[@josephlcalabro1969]

Can you tell me what holster that is?? IWB??

[@fate930]

Stealthgear IWB I do not believe this model is made anymore

[@tamer1773]

Nice trigger job. I have the 340PD SAO and the trigger pull is over 15 lbs. I have a set of Wilson springs I'm going to install this week.

[@boxlid214]

Man I want to get one of these before they disappear. I've owned a glock and older model 15 revolver for years, one is a brick, the other a boat anchor. Face it, hardly any of us will ever need 15rds, just one or two shots will certainly do the trick, 5 shots is plenty. Pistols are a pain in the ass to collect brass from if you reload, I prefer to stick with a revolver like this now to easily reload my brass.

[@Tact-Mack0397]

What holster ? Looks great

[@danew637]

Got a 340pd last month, the box of 357mag target ammo is still sitting there after the first 5 rounds ...

[@gregshock]

chun wei Hsu: I feel your pain. I managed just ten rounds of Maggie’s through my 360PD and couldn’t make myself shoot anymore. 38+P’s are not a problem, though.

[@richardgreene6810]

What I wonder is: Is it real difficult to eject 357 shells out of a J-frame (considering they are longer than .38 Special)?

[@fate930]

Very late reply but I never experienced that particular issue with this pistol.

[@daves6851]

For pocket carry, tha 360pd is my only carry. All of my auto loaders print too much for me compared to my j frames. Even my 380s, a P238 Sig and Ruger LCP print too much because of rectangular lines. store clerks have stared at my autoloaders in front pocket since I am small framed. But my jframes to my knowledge have gone un noticed.

[@peopleperson7263]

Isn’t the weight the bigger deal? I’m considering the 360pd - I wanted the 365 and still do - but I feel like 14.5oz vs 23.5 oz in the pocket is noticeably, is that your experience?

[@daves6851]

A "good" 9mm in 3" barrel almost catches a weak 357mag in a snubnose, but not close to a good 357. To me the only downside to my 360pd is i don't want to suffer hearing loss from 357 if I needed to use it in a closed space. The upside is that being a 357, the 360PD is extremely durable and reliable for all 38s. So I am fine carrying 38+p. It is plenty effective enough. Yes, 9mm is better, but I'm good with 38

[@MrLaughingcorpse]

My M&P .357 revolver (360 PD) had a big round white night sight on the front and also trigger work already done on it. It's my go to because I hate carrying on my hip. I use an ankle holster. Don't even know it's there. And I can shoot it very accurately with .38 +p. Would I like a 9mm? Sure but the revolver is simple and easy.

[@brrepublic8174]

The 340 M&P without the Ti cylinder is the model that comes with the big dot front site.

[@Pocketpowerplant]

You do GREAT reviews! Would like to see you do a review on the new kimber. Ballistics being that it's a 3in barrel very slim frame I bet you that 357 Magnum come out hissing hard

[@fate930]

I like the K6S series but if I am spending $1,000~ on a revolver it's going to be a S&W L-Comp those things are hot. Now if Kimber wants to send me one for review with some ammo who would I be to say no lol.

[@CA.0verview]

As of late I made up my mind and I’m the market to get a j Frame 357mag for the same mind set “lazy carry” literally grab and go for small trips . I’m am wondering if you know if s&w has a 360 PD a Power Port model ?

[@fate930]

Not to my knowledge no , I mean a 1.875 inch barrel is awfully short to Port iMHO

[@CA.0verview]

1911 Fanatics Cause I’ve seen a model 642 have a compensated barrel, that why I ask , it’d be a seller if the 360 pd had a compensated barrel , I wouldn’t mind a quarter inch longer longer for that comp.

[@nightrider2k6]

its 2022, are y ou still conceal carrying this and do you still recommend it?

[@fate930]

Sold it for a P365X with Holosun 507K, regret absolutely nothing.

[@KillerBD]

Good review, I happen to carry a G43 in a kydex pocket carry holster... It is a bit heavy, loaded it weighs something like 24oz (I think, going off memory). Including the kydex pocket holster along with 8 rounds total (loaded into standard mag, with the 'Mag Guts' +1 spring)... The 360 might become my new pocket carry, not that I'm getting rid of anything, but that light weight would be nice...

[@williejamehufff3125]

Can you explain the set up on your speed strip. I’ve never seen that configuration.

[@ED-2.0.9.]

Loading approach. Technically a 6 round strip, but in the 5 round cylinder you can grip the thicker part of the strip and slide in two rounds at a time stripping them off twice, rotate the strip by "spinning" it (180°) in your fingertips with your thumb, and sink the the last one in stripping it off without fumbling around with the flimsy tab end to get it done. Some use the 7 round strips in a 2 skip 2 skip 1 config (I oft just use a 5 rounder as it'll fit in a jeans mini watch pocket with the tab just barely sticking out). Shoot safe!

[@howardkahn4330]

THERE WAS A ROUND IN 38 CAL.THIS ROUND CONTAined 2, 70 grain lead balls, ........at 7 yards it entered a county phone book less than 1/2 inch apart and came out the back totally destroying it...This round was only legal for active lawwnforcement but about 30 years ago the round was taken off the market and is no longer in production......this round would stop a monster !

[@fate930]

It got discontinued because it sucked

[@howardkahn4330]

@@fate930 NONSE, IT DESTROYED THE BODY......IT TOOK NO PRISONERS!

[@DeweyParrish-dn2zu]

My 340 PD says no less than 125 gr. Because of how much of the bullet is inside of the case. The smaller bullets will pull out of the case from the recoil. And won't let the cylinder finish revolving because the next bullet that pulls out hits the frame. It's all about how much bullet is crimped inside the case. It's happened to me. One should never shoot stuff like reloaded cases. We both love guns, I'm not trying to dog you!!!

[@lililililililili8667]

Trying really hard to stop myself from buying a 360pd. I hate sig and the p365 but living in a 10rd state there is nothing better than a 365 with an eps and a mcarbo trigger.

[@lililililililili8667]

100% reliability on the 365 with the trigger job shooting t he cheapest southern munitions reloads garbage on ammoseek. Have run 4k rounds through it so far and cleaned it once after like 500 rounds for no reason. I'm never cleaning it again until it fails.

[@fate930]

I will save you $1000 don't waste your money on a lower capacity gun that kicks like a mule. The 360 is gone now and I have two P365X's with 507K's and am much happier.

[@MrMechanus]

Great Video, perhaps you mentioned this and I missed it, but do you find the speer short barrel ammunition fires to point of aim with the stock sights on the 360PD?

[@fate930]

For me the Speer Short Barrel is most definitely point of aim point of impact for me. But I did not want to mention it due to the fact that J-Frames are notoriously finicky with ammo and what is point of aim point of impact in my particular gun might not be in another. Just trying to avoid leading people astray or providing inaccurate information! Hope this helps have a great Christmas!!

[@MrMechanus]

Thanks for the prompt response! I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas as well.@@fate930

[@daves6851]

Even in cargo pants, I have to carry my jframe to keep from obvious printing since I am not a big guy

[@fate930]

I am 5’8 and 160# no issues carrying a P365X in jeans and a tshirt you probably need a better holster and belt.

[@daves6851]

You have a bigger frame and maybe a gut to help you or a big enough chest to make a shirt hang nicely. I can see by your hands you have plenty of meat on you. Im built like Screech in Saved By The Bell ,I am 15 lbs lighter and a few inches taller and my shirts drape off my hip bone and belt buckle. Anyway, my point is I have no issues hiding a j frame in the pocket of my everyday pants. I have been carrying for years also, and can not hide anything in my beltline without my figure looking lopsided as Laverne's hooters 😂. I have p365 with a great holster. You are lucky you don't have a skinny bowling pin build ha. The grips I use on my 360pd are CT LG405, not for the laser, but for the air space cushion on the bachkstrap. Much more comfortable and makes 357 passable.

[@22jeepmojave75]

The best snub nose.

[@rodney2860]

Great video brother

[@williamryan9195]

Not many people use a J-frame these days? Millions, But that's not that many?

[@JohnLloydScharf]

Given the same data from Lucky Gunner, I would recommend the 130 gr HST JHP - Personal Defense Micro from Federal www.luckygunner.com/38-special-p-130-gr-hst-jhp-personal-defense-micro-federal-20-rounds#geltest The .357 version you recommend is about the same in results. www.luckygunner.com/357-mag-135-gr-jhp-speer-gold-dot-short-barrel-20-rounds#geltest For those who want to know your source: www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/#357mag

[@fate930]

You are wrong about the 38 HST , www.activeresponsetraining.net/lessons-from-the-revolver-roundup

[@JohnLloydScharf]

@@fate930 How about you make a logical argument rather than a citation of a totally irrelevant post. There is no mention of the HST. Period. Dot. End. Were you seriously making this comment in response to my post here? You are very wrong in responding with this. You absolutely used no brain power to snipe at me with this trolling. READ THE FOLLOWING: HOWEVER, I can find a stupid topic in it. It is almost as goofy as a gun caliber argument. He said," More fine motor skills are needed to load, unload, and fire a revolver as compared to a semi-automatic pistol. " Unloading my 627 is as simple as pouring a cup of water. Shells fall right out. Loading with a moon clip is exactly the same as putting in a magazine in most self-loaders and easier than some. Does my 8 round capacity compete with a 17 round 9mm? Effectively - YES: Number of Rounds To Incapacitate: 2.45 rounds-9mm Luger 1.86 rounds-.38 Special 1.70 rounds-.357 Magnum or Sig One-Shot-Stop Percentage 34%-9mm Luger 39%-.38 Special 44%-.357 Magnum and Sig Percentage of Hits Fatal: 24%-9mm Luger 29%-.38 Special 34%-.357 (Magnum & Sig) Accuracy(Head/Torso hits) 74%-9mm Luger 76%-.38 Special 81%-.357 (Magnum/Sig) FROM YOUR OWN SOURCE: The data for this was taken from: "An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power" by Greg Ellifritz www.activeresponsetraining.net/an-alternate-look-at-handgun-stopping-power Then he said,"Most people don’t practice with revolvers at every range session." Wonderful bandwagon argument. Popularity is not a substitute for proof. If you assume that, then you have to look at the menu for 50,000 flies. Cowpie is not on my menu. Stop eating cowpie and start practicing with a revolver. It is not as cheap as shooting a .22LR LCP2 at the range, though, for sure. Yes. Most people use autoloaders because they were first trained with one, professionally. I was first trained with a S&W Model 10-5 and our EDC was a nyclad .38 Special. If you actually look at the SAAMI, you will find the rounds for .38 Special +P for a 158 grain [387 ft/lbs] compete with the 9mm +P for a 115 grain [372 ft/lbs]. Those are the top muzzle energy for their caliber with an approved pressure.

[@JohnLloydScharf]

I was engaged in complimenting your choice of source, but the next time those words, "You are wrong...' come out of your mouth, remove the fecal matter from your cranium.... FIRST.

[@BOB-wx3fq]

I like the model 60 more, more classics look

[@silverstacker8282]

No offense, bu there’s a huge recoil difference between the .357 short barrel and the .38spl +p version.

[@fate930]

Recoil impulse and judged levels of severity can differ from person to person lol. I obviously don't mind recoil

[@erictalkington5674]

@@fate930 neither do I. I love rounds that kick hard. I have some Buffalo Bore 180gr lead flat nose 357 slugs. Those are fun to shoot! They almost fucked up my Taurus 605, but it's a Taurus, my Taurus 617 did fine with them, but it's more fun to shoot in a J frame sized revolver. Don't know if they would be good in an Airlite Smith, might be too much pressure for it but if you like recoil, try those out in a full weight J frame, it's wild! I seriously think that if you had a car coming at you you could kill the car by dumping all 5 in the radiator. Might not do it right away, but they won't get much further. My favorite 357 Mag rounds.

[@Michael-on6iy]

Dry firing helps trigger on new guns.

[@fate930]

Not that much lol

[@henrygallego9197]

Can breath on that single action to set it off

[@fate930]

It's how I prefer my SAO guns, my CZ Tactical Sport Orange has a 14.5 ounce trigger.

[@davidkachel]

If you were reviewing a book would you report how many words, paragraphs, chapters, and punctuation marks it had?!!

[@fate930]

@@davidkachel if you don’t like it don’t watch, this is a free review of a $1,000+ not very common handgun.

[@davidkachel]

@@fate930 So, how many reviews do YOU watch that are not free?!! And only an idiot would think that a review is more valuable because the item being reviewed was expensive and/or rare, or that someone can dislike a review he hasn't watched yet!!

[@erictalkington5674]

I'm not a fan of new revolvers, I like the old school ones, BUT there are a few, a very few new ones I like and this is one of them. In case you don't see my reply to you in the bottom comment, try out Buffalo Bore 357 180gr lead flat nose slugs. Probably wouldn't want to in this gun, but if you like recoil too, try them in a full weight J frame. It's a blast (pun intended). Someone below said, it may have just been a slip but don't use UNDER 120gr bullets. The Airlites have to have a larger round. I think you know that based on what you said after that, but just making sure you look into it or do know. Nice review, nice gun.

[@fate930]

Thank you! The bullet weight was a mistake in wording on my part. I plan on actually re-doing this video hopefully this weekend to fix the audio issues as well. And honestly after those Federal 125gr SJHP's I have no interest in shooting Buffalo Bore anything out of this pistol lol !

[@steveming2197]

@@fate930 after watching this video, and the other few out there, you have the best by far review. Thank you for doing this. I mulled it over a few months and bought it a few weeks ago. I've shot many different .38 and .357 and found the Gold Dots to be the best carry. I even tried the Underwood 180 grain lead flat nose. My response was the exact same as yours..."F*ck". I would definitely not recommend to anyone. Thanks again. Great video!

[@serega4087]

Lol i got those two guns and they are my favorite

[@MachineGod69]

No less than

[@richlabombard6780]

Bailing out on all the microphone grinding...

[@fate930]

Apologies considering the video cost you nothing to view.

[@richlabombard6780]

1911 Fanatics Touché. But seriously, very distracting, freaking out the dog.

[@1234itbeme]

If you pee sitting down then carry .38 special. It's much easier than carrying. 357. Also why don't you just buy a. 38 special and save yourself $700. dollars?

[@ANTI-LGBTQG]

If you pee sitting down 😂😂😂😂

[@leifhoklin2681]

I’m glad you asked. The scandium frame is stronger, the entire pistol is lighter, and all of the pins are titanium rather than aluminum. The guns are more durable than the aluminum framed airweight j-frames. Personally, I don’t like the titanium cylinder models. I prefer a steel cylinder. After four years of use as an off-duty carry gun, on-duty backup gun, and a lot of shooting, my 641-1’s hammer pivot pin broke. I went out the next day and bought an M&P340.

[@michpatriot9097]

Good review..the gun you will like to carry, isn't the one you will love at the range in my experience. My everyday carry is a 340PD, Over a decade of carry has taken me full circle back to a j frame. Every single semiauto I have owned has choked and I've owned and sold about 15 different handguns over the years.. I've even had a couple of Rohrbaughs trying to fill the pocket role, but in the end for light reliable defensive use in a 35caliber, the j frame rules. I like the 357 gold dot short barrel 135 gr rounds, they're just a notch above +p 38, not as brutal as full house magnums mind you, but still a little more stout than the +p. Check out Paul Harrels KZbin vid on snub 357 power, amazing! There's more than most think in the power dept in a 357 snub if you look at the chrono. I do get that most won't like the recoil, I actually tried Buffalo Bore 180 gr 357 out of my 340 and it will make a believer in one shot about there not being more power out of a short barrel with 357.

[@italianrelic]

Every single semi auto had choked! ya ok clown

[@FL-Kaiman]

What about 360pd vs glock 42

[@fate930]

That gun is no longer relevant

[@FL-Kaiman]

@@fate930.327 federal magnum out of a ruger lcrx is a better comparison. Also, every gun is still relevant in a fight. Only the sith deal in absolutes.

[@fate930]

@@FL-Kaiman holy late reply Batman , also who in the lords name still shoots 327 aside from the geriatrics revolver club? Ditched my J frames shortly after this review came out because of how good the P365 is TBH

[@FL-Kaiman]

Sus

[@cincypiper]

$500 or so from Bud's these days.

[@fate930]

There is a BIG difference between the 360PD and the 360 (SEPARATE MODELS) literally just checked buds the 360pd is $820 after a rebate , the 360 is ~$490 or so.

[@cincypiper]

@@fate930 Doh! Should have been more thorough! Thanks for the clarification.

[@tjb3454555150]

The mike makes it sound like you are in a sewer tunnel.

[@jmbob646]

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[@joetacoma6829]

You are getting nowhere near the energy from a 38 anything as you are a full house 357 magnum.

[@MrLaughingcorpse]

If you want to shoot 357 out of that light weight frame, be my guest. I'll stick with my 38+p rounds.