Smoke and fumes in the cockpit. Delta Airbus A321neo performs emergency return to JFK. Real ATC

[@SpaceGeek321]

"Nah it says the inside is on fire, not the outside, cancel the trucks we'll park next to the building full of people instead."

[@davestevens4193]

@1:40... how about vectoring them back towards the airport instead of asking a bunch of questions

[@cbartlett]

The great fuel in pounds vs. fuel in time debate continues.

[@FerrisSOCAL]

Noob comment here, but 3.5 seems kinda light for travel the SLC from JFK. Is that normal?

[@saxmanb777]

The debate that only takes place on KZbin comments.

[@EvanK6283]

@@FerrisSOCALfuel remaining was likely given at current (lower) altitude of 10,000 instead of higher more fuel efficient cruise altitude

[@wallygumboot7416]

No debate - ATC need to know how long they can keep flying, ARFF need to know how big the fire is going to be.

[@AveryFlies]

I would just give both. ATC needs to know how long the plane can fly, fire dept needs to know how long the plane can burn. 😅

[@westsparks6844]

Best handled emergency I've heard. No repeating or asking same questions on every hand-off. No nonsense professionalism by all involved

[@zachansen8293]

Really? You like that they had a plane use their runway and potentially cause a go around for a plane with smoke in the cockpit? I sure don't.

[@giggleigloos]

Feel like it took too long to get the initial vector back to the field

[@altavelmcnamara]

Now compare this mess to the last Amsterdam video. Pounds, hours, souls,…

[@cargone6428]

How about not making them climb when masks are donned with fumes..unless traffic conflict or pilots request..., then explain....

[@SpaceGeek321]

They were already at 8800, stopping the climb at 10 is logical, and the pilots didn't object.

[@zachansen8293]

and what about having a plane on their runway potentially reject takeoff and make them go around with smoke in the cockpit??? wtf

[@JSVintage]

Curious how they only had 3.5 hours of fuel remaining for a 4 hour flight? Is that because they give the time remaining at the present (lower) altitude?

[@thomasfeighery5356]

Yes

[@zachansen8293]

When they say fire you don't have another plane try to take off ahead of them. You clear the runway. Holy shit what were they thinking at ATC? You're going to have a plane with smoke potentially do a go around??? I don't think so.

[@EdOeuna]

In,essentially you can specifically identify what was on fire, like something in an oven or the lavatory waste bin, then any fire cannot be confirmed as being out, and landing is your immediate priority. As it is a mayday / “emergency” situation then ATC become assistance to your return and not obstacles.

[@THESTIG-cc7fq]

Souls on board and fuel remaining if pilots are in an emergency and pressure environment. What if they are unable to provide figures, does that mean they cant land until they tell them.

[@briansmyla8696]

No, the pilots can just say 'unable', and all will be well.

[@df446]

"Fumes". How did they know it was the byproducts of burning metal they were smelling?

[@zachansen8293]

It doesn't matter. Fire is the worst thing for a plane. You get on the ground and you do it now if you even suspect it might be a fire.