SMS Siegfried - Guide 218

The Siegfried class, coastal defence ironclads of the Imperial German Navy, is today's subject.
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[@Drachinifel]

Pinned post for Q&A :)

[@leodesalis5915]

Would the Tillman designs and other 20' armed ships actually have become a legitimate ship built and used had it not been for the Washington and London naval treaties, it just seems to me like the pure size and cost of such beasts would limit even the richest of countries only a few ships at the most, and likely never bothered with as they'd be seen as overkill, and eventually a waste with carriers becoming the main force on the seas

[@corypharr4572]

I have seen a USNI picture of Tirpitz painted to look like a row of waterfront buildings, including windows and doors, during her fitting out at Wilhelmshaven. This was to hide her from British air attack. Besides pretending to be a block of flats or perhaps an island what are some other outlandish and/or hilarious ways used to hide a warship?

[@gbg9343]

Request - Do you have any plans to do a vid on HMS Frobisher?

[@leodesalis5915]

@@corypharr4572 I can't remember the name of the ship but a destroyer fleeing the Japanese disguised itself as an island to hide during he day then run during the night

[@mancubwwa]

Whst is your favorite warship that served in WWII that is NOT from the 5 washington treaty signers (including RCN and RAN as kinda "part" of RN) nor from Germany?

[@stewartellinson8846]

"converted into a merchant ship"....... Why did no-one try THAT as a Washington naval treaty dodge....... "SS Agincourt...... why yes, these are seven grain silos..... We've armoured them because you can't be too careful with grain"

[@nvo7024]

"Sir, with all due respect, do you really need more freighters when your civilian shipping companies are scrapping theirs..." Outside of the Big Naval Ring, they sometimes did it, e.g. the Soviets completed two unfinished Svetlana-class hulks as tankers.

[@redram5150]

“Surely we can affix triple 50 caliber, 16” fuel tanks in super-storing position to the USS Missouri”

[@redram5150]

“They tip upward for easy emptying”

[@BigPapaKaiser]

@@redram5150 Those 8 inches? Oh, that's for self-defence. Seagulls are dangerous!

[@LudensP]

LOL. Mind you, given the age of the ship, and the fact that warships usually have terrible fuel economy, I am surprised this was considered worthwhile at all.

[@wierdalien1]

The title soundtrack never gets boring

[@alexs1954]

There’s something beautiful about the sound of artillery (naval or otherwise) in the morning.

[@lutherburgsvik6849]

Agree with that. Been binge-watching some recently and haven't felt the need to speed over the intro at all.

[@smokerjim]

Can be a bit quiet, especially over the last few months

[@jimtaylor294]

@@smokerjim Definitely. I miss when the intro was thunderous.

[@MrTScolaro]

Does anyone know the name of the track?

[@richardcutts196]

They even tried to disguise one of them as a cow 4:57.

[@loganholmberg2295]

Damn I just love the look of PreDreadbaught ships. They still had a little bit of that flare and decor you saw in the old wood ships until Dreadnaught came around and everything started becoming so spartan.

[@stefanguels]

I suspect Drach is secretly taking German lessons. Watching quite a bit of documentaries his German 'ch' pronounciation is definitely superior to most professional narrators and undeniably better than most Germans attempt at a proper English 'th'.

[@toddwebb7521]

Well one word whisker I've noticed is Drach seems to have trouble with ei and ie not following a standard pattern like English. It's very important to get it correct as getting it backwards can literally be an entirely different word.

[@Dr_V]

How about a series about scrapping warships in detail? I'd be curious to know which parts would generally be stored for later use by the navy, what was considered high value salvage and what wasn't worth more than the raw materials. If possible also some stories about specific parts reused on later warships, I read about main battery guns being switched to newer ships or converted into coast defense batteries, but I'm sure there were cases of machinery and other equipment being reused, especially from battle damaged ships that weren't actually obsolete at the time they got scrapped.

[@Kevin_Kennelly]

I applaud your question. You should repost it in the "Pinned Post for Q&A"'.

[@adamperry9755]

This definitely warrants a Rum Ration video

[@Kevin_Kennelly]

In response to your question. Drach recently published "Western Approaches", WW2 British convoys and ASW. The HQ was in Derby House in Liverpool. In the midst of the Blitz, they had to operate 24/7. So they had a backup power generator. It was powered by a engine taken from a captured WW1 German Uboat. Read: 'Game of Birds And Wolves' by Simon Parkin.

[@thehandoftheking3314]

Submarine: launches torpedoes at merchant man. Merchantman: launches torpedoes back. Submarine: *startled pikachu face*

[@Shadow-sq2yj]

"Are you sure that your fishes of freedom didn't turn around?"

[@airplanenut89]

Sub: Launches torpedo Merchantman: Reverse Uno card.

[@vladfedonkin4731]

@@Shadow-sq2yj the worst (or best, really) part is, it’s totally possible that a mk13 or mk14 could have done exactly that

[@gerokron3412]

One more episode from "Forgotten Warships"

[@johnladuke6475]

"Hi guys, my name is Drachinifel, welcome to another video on Forgotten Warships dot com. Today we're going to be taking a look at a class of battleship adopted by several militaries around the world, learning a bit about its design history and the ultimate fate of most of the production models. Unfortunately we won't be doing a disassembly segment today, because I really don't want to have to put it back together."

[@nicnickd]

Love the look of those pre dreadnoughts with their ram bows and tumblehome hulls.

[@claypidgeon4807]

I’ll be honest, after so much Drachinifel content, I feel a genuine desire to turn strategic-grade nuclear weaponry upon every breaker’s yard in the world.

[@luisitobardajibenitez8013]

I'd advise tactical, to limit the damage and fallout surrounding the breakers yard

[@jonathanlong6987]

Long service despite their obsolescence. Ah, you made me feel good.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

They were odd looking vessels as most ships of the period were. Interesting history though a merchant man with torpedo tubes would be an odd sight to say the least

[@Blei1986]

i agree. the russian battleships from that time look sooo awsome (i'm actually german)

[@robertf3479]

It must be Saturday morning, time for my looked for weekly dose of naval education and entertainment. I had never heard of this class of warship prior, thank you for bringing them forward Drach.

[@TriumphT140]

Thank you so much for this one, found the blueprints a while back and rather dug the design, nice to now know a decent amount and have context that was lacking in a few areas.

[@nonamesplease6288]

I don't know, Drach. She kind of looks like the Kriegsmarine got some ideas from the French hotel trade there. Siegfried looks like he got a little tumblehome, a very inside out bow, and a giant treehouse. C'est magnifique!

[@davidvonkettering204]

I guess (know) I'm weird--but I like the look of a Tumble-Home construction. Love, David

[@scottgiles7546]

Much the same way people like Steam-Punk. And they do look very steam-punky.

[@stevenhogan9724]

I really don't need to watch the video first before giving the 👍 up for it Thay that good Another great video

[@malcolmtaylor518]

Always liked the look of these ships. Needless to say I'm a fan of tumble home visually.

[@nvo7024]

Tumblehome? A disgraceful eyesore with an unpronounceable name? Wait, it's not French? alright, very nice ship indeed.

[@jonathanlee5907]

Thanks, I love these episodes with ships from this period (in fact, my favourite thing is objects designed in periods of fast technological change and experimentation).

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

2:25 Solution to stop torpedo boats: *MORE DAKKA*

[@Shadow-sq2yj]

*BIGGER DAKKA*

[@jimtaylor294]

*ALL THE DAKKA*

[@insignificantgnat9334]

As if there is ever a question where the answer isn't more dakka.

[@viridisxiv766]

DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA

[@Shadow-sq2yj]

@@insignificantgnat9334 "What isn't useful against torpedo boats?"

[@thehandoftheking3314]

I can't wait for the rest of the Squadron SMS Tristan and HMS Herriot

[@Pchan1995]

I love that series! Are you watching the new production?

[@thehandoftheking3314]

@@Pchan1995 I love it too, I read them to my son for bedtime stories. The new Series is... odd to me been such a fan, the portrayal of Triss and Siegfried seem just off to me.

[@AikenDrum1715CE]

All Cruisers Great and Small

[@Pchan1995]

De-aging them is a tad odd, but I think the actors are making it work.

[@Ridliman]

Well, if they did the same with the actual merchantmans the pirate problem would be less severe.

[@AZmisc]

Winner of "the best steampunk ship award".

[@StareCG]

Wait, how about "french floating hotels" ?!

[@weldonwin]

I remember this one from the What Is The Thunderchild video last year

[@NoPegs]

Ahhhhh, Saturday mornings with Drach... I need to get around to submitting this month's patreon drydock question... Half the month's already past the rudder... Stay serviceable my friend!

[@pavelskrylnikov9658]

SMS Frithof surely has an interesting fate. Rivals russian Svetlana class light cruisers Admiral Spiridov and Admiral Greig, which were laid down as cruisers in Russian Empire but were completed as tankers in 1920s in USSR. They were called Azneft and Grozneft.

[@amerigo88]

Main guns were 240mm and main armour belt was 240mm. A gift of simplicity for naval historians.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

a bit simular to contemperary dutch designs , they build a ship with armour , guns and speed in the 1860s and kept running the design specs for almost 50 years. same armour thickness, same guns size and same speed. (note with technological advances and improvements added over the years. ) most ships even had the same silhouet .

[@flyingcircus808]

RM Pugla on a hillside at the Vittoriale degli italiani museum, Lake Garda. While on holiday in Lake Garda was surprised to see the bow section ( forward of the funnels) of a 19th century cruiser situated on a hillside on the shores of the lake. So I suppose it can be classed as a museum ship. There is also a WW1 MAS boat on display.

[@seasirocco3063]

Be cool if Drach did a video on partly preserved ships like Pugla.

[@77thTrombone]

It's an icy Saturday afternoon in February, and a decision presents itself: Drach or bills?

[@77thTrombone]

2:28 - yes! My decision was correct: Wirklich gibt’s _Torpedo-Boote!_ Sie müssen behandelt werden!

[@janwitts2688]

Originally having the bow torpedo tube above water was a severe weak point..

[@frankgulla2335]

Short, sweet and succint.

[@Volnas97]

Siegfried being the last port defence is like game, where the final boss is the easiest.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Are you going to do one on the “Roy” as well?

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Siegfried and Roy 🤪

[@Rauschgenerator]

He already did some on the Tiger class. I guess that prevented it somehow...^^

[@ARose-ik2mi]

When is the video on SMS Roy gonna be? Can't have one without the other.

[@tominiowa2513]

Regarding ship names, has the Royal Navy considered building a new Flower Class with four ships: HMS Hyacinth, HMS Daisy, HMS Violet, and HMS Rose?

[@jimtaylor294]

Considering that it's well known how that nearly led to an *HMS Pansy* existing... unlikely XD. (the Admiralty isn't That eager to repeat past mistakes)

[@tominiowa2513]

@@jimtaylor294 - But it would do wonders in keeping up the appearances of the Royal Navy.

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Hm...would this merchant conversion ship go like: "You will buy my stuff - or you'll be saying goodbye!"? :D

[@billbolton]

Merchantman with torpedo tubes.....I approve.

[@Owktree]

A unique method for delivering large sausages to the dock.

[@thehandoftheking3314]

Submarine: launches torpedoes at merchant man. Merchantman: launches torpedoes back. Submarine: *startled pikachu face*

[@timothyhouse1622]

Can we have an episode on the City Class ironclads of the US Civil War, specifically USS Cairo. She can be still be found in Vicksburg, MS. Something on all the different ironclad types used during the war would be cool also.

[@ryszardkoprowski1414]

This beautiful age of naval warfare development. Nonsenses, floating hotels, clever ideas and all powered by coal&steam...;-)

[@karlvongazenberg8398]

Steampunk at its best :)

[@tomgucwa7319]

5 mins ? Flashbacks !

[@yalelingoz6346]

I love the names for the Siegfried class. They've got gravitas. And I think they're genius for the exact time period. Being acceptable to all component parts of the still fairly new German Empire, and being culturally uniting without leaning into period politics or religion. (chefs kiss)

[@KPearce57]

A ship named Friedhof (Cemetery)

[@americanace96]

Last time I was early for a video from across the Atlantic, I was behind on an assignment. How does that saying about history repeating itself go?

[@icenut]

I would like you to review the Edsall Class Destroyer Escort. perhaps even looking at DE-149 USS Chatelain. Thank you in advance.

[@steamerAE]

A video about the Raider SMS Wolf wood be great. Btw. nice video as usual👍

[@klausschroiff4405]

USS Wolverine/Sable please :-)

[@starrionx1]

They lasted until 1915? That's amazing. I would have thought they would have been retired by the time that dreadnoughts were commissioned.

[@rzu1474]

Odin lasted till 35, though as a merchant

[@toddwebb7521]

If they had taken the 9.4"guns from these as the predreadnoughts were removed from service and used them to make a class of armoured cruisers how useful would a class of 9.4" armed armoured cruisers have been for the Kaiserliche Marine?

[@thomasnugent6107]

Would you be able to do review on the Alaska ?

[@murderouskitten2577]

I wonder why Germany did not build armored "merchant" ships in 1920ties :D Fuel or grain silos , in place of turret mounting , so if war starts - just drop a turret in there and be done :D

[@GeneralKenobiSIYE]

It's a shame so many of these ships have such short histories which makes for these short videos.... We need long videos!

[@Aquarian920]

Can you review USS Curtis AV4 which was a large seaplane tender at Pearl Harbor on 7 Dec 1941 and was credited with aircraft shot down and contributed to a midget submarine sunk?

[@BlindMansRevenge2002]

I hate it when the ships go to the breakers.

[@nitsu2947]

14 views and 25 likes, its Oktoberfest already ??

[@philvanderlaan5942]

As one comenter said somewhere else resently ' Go home You tube, you're drunk '

[@nitsu2947]

@@philvanderlaan5942 yeah its already Oktoberfest

[@philvanderlaan5942]

@@nitsu2947 If it was HMS something would you call it a football riot?

[@nitsu2947]

@@philvanderlaan5942 not sure

[@REfXVerii]

@@nitsu2947 It isn't Oktoberfest but it's Fastnacht.

[@rzu1474]

Sadly not Odin. It's Ironic she not only outlived the high seas fleet but the Weimar Republic aswell

[@richmcgee434]

Outliving the Weimar Republic is only impressive if you're a mayfly. :)

[@ganooggonunderwood4480]

Push likes.... Not so difficult , small thanks for Drachinifel....

[@seeingeyegod]

Is it called tumblehome because the bottom of the ocean is home and they like to tumble upside down when flooded?

[@GrockleTD]

USS Indianapolis?

[@Trek001]

For the record, removing the opening and end credits give this video a total length of 5:01... So close to making it an actual Five Minute Guide

[@BenTheTiger131]

Only two left on the list

[@Rod_Nyssen]

@Drachinifel Im a little disappointed your guide of Siegfried class. One thing first i know informations about Siegfried class is hard to find outside of the internet, i know that but the Naval Museum of Wilhelmshaven and Bremerhaven have much more information about the ships like crew lists and reports. The men who serve on the Siegfried class becoming later admirals, war heroes and well known captians later in german navy. Here is the german wikiperry page of the Beowulf de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Beowulf You will find those names on the list very interessing if you dig deeper into, it's just a start. I hope you can do a extended guide of the Siegfried class in the furture or video about the history of german coastal defence forces that would be nice :) I have ancestor on my mothers side on the family who served on the Beowulf as signal officer under captain Gottfried Freiherr von Dalwigk zu Lichtenfels and captain Paul Ebert(later Admiral, marine intelligence 1918/1919) between 16th september 1892 and 14th march 1916. Unfortunately i have only two photos of him on board the Beowulf, a self painted picture and few letters :/ Greeting form Jever near Wilhelmshaven, Germany. :)

[@davebignell773]

I see the list is getting quite short now. Are you still taking suggestions for 5min Guides/Rum Ration's from here? If so, could I suggest Operation Pedestal as a Rum Ration video?

[@peterbrazier7107]

Still waiting for HMS Icarus D03

[@KazakhToon]

I think you have a typo in your title card, is it not historiographer?

[@mattwoodard2535]

Those ships look so Steampunk it's hard to grasp. sm

[@armchairwanderer1287]

👍👍

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

Comment for the algorithm.

[@mikepette4422]

I miss the computer voice 😜

[@kurttank_1909]

Could the ship’s horn play Wagner? Be kind of anti-climactic if Siegfried ever sailed down the Rhein (unlikely) without said ability.....

[@philvanderlaan5942]

You want South Carolina to play Dixie as well?

[@mbr5742]

The ships band. With the captain and officers singing

[@tominiowa2513]

Rheinübung did not turn out too well for the Kriegsmarine.

[@mbr5742]

@@tominiowa2513 That"s because the officers where not singing Wagner. Had they done it Odin would have been pleased and Thor would have been on their side

[@philvanderlaan5942]

@@tominiowa2513 tell that to the men on Hood.

[@viperuscopperus]

first time sub 100 views

[@jasonlemuel5078]

1st one,but theres 6 likes already but vid shows no views hmmm weird

[@pyronuke4768]

2nd

[@billbolton]

3rd

[@kpdubbs7117]

Yeah, currently 19 likes, 14 views. Though I have been known to hit like before watching and then having to actually watch the video later due to work or whatever.

[@TheCow2face]

4th

[@RobbieRR]

I've stopped expecting KZbin to have it's shit together at this point

[@Thirdbase9]

No SMS Roy?

[@andrewcox4386]

When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was French!! 🤢

[@whateverthisis389]

Buddy u ok?

[@almightykingpin6322]

@@whateverthisis389 french ships were actually decent but I can understand why it does look like a tumble Hull

[@yalelingoz6346]

Ignoring all practicality, I adore the look of these ships. The ram bow; the bulging tandem turrets forward; the low bridge; and the tumblehomish hull shape just come together magnificently.

[@andrewcox4386]

Interesting to note that 3000 tons would be less than a post war Daring at full load.....

[@robertf3479]

Also only about half or less than the displacement of a number of modern frigates.

[@richardm3023]

It would also be less than my ex-wife and her 3 sisters all in the same car.

[@WayneBorean]

The new Type 26 frigates we are building will hit over 9,000 tons. Note that while the RCN calls them frigates, they technically aren’t. They are a combination ship designed for air/surface/submarine engagements and while the final load out hasn’t been announced, the RCN seems to think they will be the world’s most advanced surface combatants at the time of their launch.

[@micfail2]

@Wayne Borean I mean at nine thousand tons you may as well just designate them light cruisers

[@scottgiles7546]

@@richardm3023 "It would also be less than my ex-wife and her 3 sisters all in the same car." And what was your car, to handle that load? (So you like them BIG then?) (heh!)

[@Bored_Kaga]

an actual more or less 5 minutes is a bit hard to come across on a recommended section lately

[@loganholmberg2295]

Yeah it seems like EVERYTHING is 15 minutes plus. Even watching at 1.5 or 1.76 speed makes it hard to get through material somedays.😑

[@Drachinifel]

It's probably because YT offers more in-video ad options etc to videos over 10 mins, so a lot of people are making longer videos so they can enable that option.

[@Bored_Kaga]

@@Drachinifel Yes, I was made aware of that by someone else fairly recently

[@kelb76]

The German fascination with the 88 goes back a long way.

[@VosperCDN]

This video brought to us by our sponsor, the 88mm, influencing German military designs since ... well, forever pretty much.

[@theokamis5865]

@Versusdelyxe and this carried through to the German air force, thanks to Junkers (which managed to make junk out of a lot of Soviet tanks!)

[@davidbrennan660]

@@theokamis5865 They missed several though... .

[@theokamis5865]

@@davidbrennan660 only because they Krupped out.

[@Kerndon]

It dates back to the 6-pounder field cannon of 1860 (later named the C/61), which had a caliber of 3.5 Prussian inches = 91.5 mm, although the ammunition was generally rated as 88 mm

[@davidbrennan660]

Hurrah for Saturday! Drach is in need of his “🎶🎵Spear and Magic Helmet 🎵🎶” ....for these vessels.

[@de-173]

"Magic helmet?"

[@philvanderlaan5942]

@@de-173 Magic helmet

[@delurkor]

Thank you very much. Now I have that whole dialogue running in my head.

[@RCAvhstape]

@@de-173 Kill the wabbit!

[@jonathanhill4892]

@@de-173 Magic helmet that makes you invisible. Wagnerian reference. The Spear, however, belonged to Wotan and was vandalised by young Siegfried:) Siegfried himself, of course, wielded his father's sword that had been refitted by Mime the dwarf. Hope that makes it all clear.

[@Gouhllit]

funny enough, this is probally my favourite ship look wise. so beautiful.

[@a_newcomer9403]

Agreed I love them

[@nunocbnunocb5875]

It's a disaster that none of the great Europe's battleships could survive as museums. Just the UK built Mikasa, that's all. It was scandalous that the Goeben/Yavuz that Turkey tried to sell back to Germany was not preserved, but we must to recognise that it would be another pretext to insult them.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

The prusian navy did try to buy and build ships in the netherlands for iron clad ships , how ever the dutch naval yard slip ways where to small to build them. and prompted on a restructure of its shipbuilding capabilities. The 9.4" or 24 cm guns where a primary weapon with the dutch navy, featureing on many ships including armoured cruisers and later coastal defence ships. even the seven provincien would have carried 4 of them but in twin mounts. till they decided to install 2 single 11.1 inch guns, and would have seen a return in a modern proposal of a modern armoured cruiser with 9- 9.4 inch guns as an alternative for the battle cruiser project 1047. ( still a bit of a mystery on this armoured cruiser as the dutch where still missing on aditional cruiser for their 6 cruiser plan.)

[@chxyz1048]

Are that the new WOWS german Prenium Ships at T10?

[@leftcoaster67]

Premium Tier II to go up against the Mikasa.

[@Depipro]

Siegfried and Hagen in the same navy? Well that could have gotten very awkward very quickly...

[@zhouenlai2569]

Great video, thanks a lot. These were important ships development-wise for the young German navy. They look cool, too. Wish there was a 1/350 model of these (Kombrig, looking at you).

[@redjacc7581]

IJN Yubari please :P

[@MrThekingofrock97]

In guide to warships, circles and arrows pointing to the parts of the ship you are naming would be great

[@Menddoxs]

I think the siegfried class were named after mythical Norse Heroes, I recognise the names Siegfried and Hagen are from the song of the Nibelungs (I only know because I play Fate/Grand Order)

[@tashatsu_vachel4477]

That is correct.

[@Menddoxs]

@Versusdelyxe so?, What is wrong with that, everyone has different interests

[@bullettube9863]

I have always found the ships built up to the HMS Dreadnought the most interesting; the world was still getting used to the idea of ships not needing sails, or guns that fired solid shot. The result were some very unique ideas, such as round battleships and the USS Vulcan that used air pressure to fire it's shells. The Royal Navy made some interesting ships as well, and some were tragic mistakes, but the step by step progress was just fascinating!

[@yes_head]

So if WWI had broken out in 1895 the Kriegsmarine would have been sitting pretty. If only...

[@gernhard.reinholdsen]

My pre-dreadnought knowledge is pretty limited. Hell, are these ships odd to look at if you are mostly familiar with the later designs, and the obligatory Mikasa.

[@donald8066]

For all the sloppy commentars, the ships were build mostly as mobile batteries, in shallow waters, they could even fall dry, without problems. So you have to build a flat bottom, which is no good idear for a high sea ship. Even the " french" steampunk Look was not a big problem, as the ships shoud not fight in Battleline. The Tactic was to stay in shallow water.

[@SuperPhester]

THANK YOU DRACH!! Your Naval History videos are AWESOME!!!

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

Germany: I'll build a coastal ironclad having tumblehome. *Angry french noises.

[@TheDkeeler]

How about the Tiger Class cruisers Tiger Lion and Blake which were my favourite since I was a lad back in 1964.

[@psymodelleragainpsymodelle8198]

excellent video and valuable information for the ships history and evolution passionate

[@keysontrains538]

Is this where I hang up the washing?

[@barrylucas8679]

Love that first painting you show

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

If only Siegfried were still here.