SMT Nocturne HD Quality of Death Modpack Preview

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To celebrate the 2nd anniversary of the release of Nocturne HD, Matthiew Purple has put together a mod collection aimed at generally improving and modernising the experience of the game. I've contributed several mods to this collection. Here's a quick preview, check it out.

[@TyrantKingFrost]

And let's not forget the best QoL addition: buying Geis from the shop.

[@MatthiewPurple]

Puzzle Boy is crying rn

[@SilverSuisei]

This is a very promising mod pack What I love: - Press Turn cap at 3 + seeing them in battle - Enemies get an extra press turn - Party healing - EXP share - Magic pierce - Amala skip What I like: - Compass minimap - Mitama fusion overwriting skills - Fusable boss demons What I'm mixed on: - Analyzing Bosses - SMTV press turn - Seeing skill upgrade

[@MatthiewPurple]

Thank you for your feedback, the mods you'll want to remove are "analyze_bosses_06", "modern_press_turns_smtv_06" and "ShowSkillUpgrades". I've also made a mod that makes Press Turn icons behave like in SMT IV if that's what you prefer.

[@pourygin9496]

Why are you mixed on SMTV press turns? I haven't played that game.

[@SilverSuisei]

@@pourygin9496 To quickly explain the press turn system: In nocturne, you get up to 4 actions with a full party (unless you have the extra press turn from a side quest). Each action removes one press turn icon unless you inflict a weakness or pass your turn. When these conditions are met, the first available press turn will highlight. Hitting weaknesses will highlight additional press turns. If you pass while a highlighted icon is already displayed, it will remove the first highlighted press turn. In SMTV, they changed the behavior of the press turn system to where if you pass, it will highlight more press turns instead of removing existing highlighted ones. In addition to this, sending party members to the stock also highlights a press turn instead of removing an icon. What this means is, the game rewards you for switching mid combat, which is something that is so frowned upon in Nocturne that it wastes a turn. And if you want to revive a party member and bring them back into the fight, it will cost 2 turns minimum, which is a big investment. Also in SMTV, you can, in some situations, do a certain cheese strat where you send all of your demons to the stock, leave Nahobino with 4 actions, and he can spam his strongest attack and deal more damage than what was intended. If you want an example of what I'm talking about, there are videos on quick kills of the super bosses if you don't mind spoilers.

[@HuangLongGaming]

@@pourygin9496 if you pass while having a flashing press turn in smt5 it still gives you another press turn as if you struck a weakness instead of taking away the flashing turn you already had like other games do

[@pourygin9496]

@@HuangLongGaming I think I understand. A MC with magic, agility, and better mana recovery than everyone else can hit a weakness, then pass x3, then hit a weakness, and then everyone else cleans up to destroy random encounters.

[@MetalGamely]

I'm stoked for this, thank you all so much for your hard work!

[@MatthiewPurple]

I hope you'll have a great time with it!

[@gleb4dead93]

Me on my way to fuse manikin.

[@Dac2003]

Modders doing what Atlus should have done again. Keep the good job guys Pd: Btw is Magic still capped?

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

There is a mod that uncaps it

[@Verdant_Weru]

"Ally fiends are nerfed" My Level 99 daisoujou with max stats and late game tier abilities: 🚶

[@MuhammadAhmad-fx8fc]

The love for this game is insurmountable. Great job!

[@CosmicIsDead]

i personally would keep nocturne press turn over V but other than that changes like fiends being nerfed is def a good change and a cool mod (sadly i only own it on switch)

[@MatthiewPurple]

I'm glad you like it! Like I said in the other comment, every mod can be individually removed from the modpack without causing any issues.

[@pourygin9496]

I don't think there is anything wrong with the developer's original intention with them being very strong. You can choose not to use them or play without chronicle or maniax.

[@bokeronenjoyer]

fiends are already easy in hard mode, why nerf them

[@Traxl21]

@@bokeronenjoyer ALLY fiends

[@giratina6665]

What was even the difference? Passing preserving turns as long as you have non blinking turn icons at all instead of only doing that if there is no blinking icon at all?

[@angwelio]

One step closer to hard type Anyways, amazingwork, now i can suffer through Nocturne again, but better

[@scrapzarchive]

Next nocturne hd playthrough will use this mod for sure

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

Seems like we're getting closer to a Nocturne HD Hardtype, am I right? 😉

[@ZephhyrAgain]

We're gradually figuring stuff out. I'm working on deciphering how boss AI works atm and once I've done that the door is pretty much open to a Hardtype-esque rebalance. I could try to replicate Hardtype in HD but I've got other ideas I'd want to implement as well (influenced by the extra turn LL run).

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

​@@ZephhyrAgain I actually would love to be involved with it and provide some suggestions

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

@@ZephhyrAgain Some things I'd be interested in seeing, if it's possible to do them anytime soon: -General enemy stat increases from Hardtype, particularly HP. -Maybe custom skills from Hardtype, plus some additional ones I've suggested in my notes? -Reworked skill sets for allied and enemy demons? (Some of these would include the custom skills, if possible).

[@ZephhyrAgain]

@@steam-powereddolphin5449 right now the biggest barrier in the way of starting work on a rebalance is the boss AI. I still haven't figured out how to tamper with it and I'd want to be able to do that before committing to a rebalance project.

[@nesmario123]

thank you for this! this is amazing!

[@metalhatty104]

All these looks really good!

[@diegomauriciogomez1755]

Looks cool, will download on second playthough

[@nr2676]

A true SMT III Nocturne HD Remaster we deserved, not that rushed bullshit from Atlus.

[@603840Jrg]

smirk when

[@Jekunda]

PIERCE AFFECTING MAGIC?!!!! OHHHHHH MYYYYYY! 😍😍

[@hermitx8573]

It looks amazing.

[@ianr7014]

I was JUST thinking about replaying this game 👀

[@Solitaryparadise99]

Definitely trying this out

[@crackedfrost]

Really not a huge fan of the 3 cap on the buffs, and nerfing the optional fiends was kind of unnecessary.

[@MatthiewPurple]

I can understand that but don't worry, the modpack still works perfectly without those features. Simply delete the two dll files named "fiends_nerf" and "DDS2Buffs".

[@crackedfrost]

@@MatthiewPurple oh, well that's great actually. Didn't realize it was modular. Fantastic.

[@pourygin9496]

Nerfing the fiends won't make the more fun, they're not overpowered because most of them can't be triple fused and Trumpeter only has 3 open slots. The player can't even triple fuse a powerful demon of the night race as compensation for a crummy Daisoujou, if they have a deathstone. I don't know what video game design philosophy school the modder graduated from, but if everything is nerfed no will play the game regardless of how much the smt fanbase hungers for difficulty. People who are obsessed with balance lose sight of what matters. Fun crazy rainbow street fighter was much more enjoyable than the balanced street fighter 1 and karate champ with only 2 characters and the same moveset.

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@pourygin9496 Fiends were nerfed just due to general principle - Prayer at Level 40 or so was broken, as well as easy access to Light/Dark immunity with zero tradeoff Also, even though you cannot triple fuse most of the Fiends, Daisoujou being triple fuseable is more than enough

[@pourygin9496]

@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 I admit Daisoujou is a little overpowered, and it gets stale using him every playthrough, but I don't agree with nerfs. I guess you could replace prayer with mediarama, then the player would have something they can use outside of combat. Light/Dark immunity sounds like a pretty poor reason to nerf the fiends because they are plenty of other strong demons with that immunity like Okuninushi, Sarutahiko, and the Mitama.

[@user-ky1sk7kr6t]

Man, you are the hero. Since it looks more like Digital Devil Saga now, what are you thoughts on choosable Demi-fiend skills (not forgetting them, but selecting them from the total skill list, instead)?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

We can't really do that since we're still limited by the structure the game already has. There is a mod that allows you to learn skill from Magatama that you have already mastered though.

[@user-ky1sk7kr6t]

@@ZephhyrAgain thanks for the reply. Yeah, I know about that mod.

[@KyRex1783]

@@ZephhyrAgain which mod is that? Sorry.

[@gordonfreeman5872]

these are less like QoL improvements and more like cheats that straight up make the game easier

[@billyboleson2830]

Stuff like magic pierce, buyable Geis, and Daisojou nerf make the game straight up better tho. Plus being able to fight hard mode versions of bosses without having to deal with gutted exp gain is infinitely more enjoyable since literally no other smt game does that

[@luisyanez6261]

Amazing work! Will it be avaliable to other systems (AKA switch)?

[@MatthiewPurple]

There are no plans for that as none of us have any experience with Switch modding, I'm sorry

[@watashiwachosenwashiten]

My favorite improvement is being able to purchase geis hahaha

[@blackcoringa9203]

I This one to see the status of the boss is great 😍

[@BorsPepsi]

Don't really like the buffs/debuffs not being +4, also SMTV press turn system. Ok didn't realize that this video is a year old and you can customize what mods to turn on or off, great pack!

[@archonthaaproducer]

I played through SMT 4 and 5. I'm looking to start a Nocturne playthrough. Would these be ok for a first time playthrough?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

If anything, playing with these mods on a first time playthough would be less jarring than playing without them if you're experienced with 4 and 5. Go for it.

[@sasaworker6417]

won't lie, not a huge fan of some of the changes. namely the 3-cap of (de)buffs is something that irks me. other than that though, it's a great pack for quality of life(death).

[@MatthiewPurple]

I'm glad you still like it nonetheless! You can remove this feature by deleting the file called "DDS2Buffs"

[@sasaworker6417]

@@MatthiewPurple hmm, good to keep in mind whenever I decide to rerun HD. might be easier to just pick up the mods one by one(if not config them as well) honestly, knowing how picky I am with these things. that said, I can't wait for a hardtype to be ported to this version - definitely the SMT3 run I'm looking to do next.

[@nahnah390]

Is there a Mod to make Uber Pixie even more viable for the final boss fight? I always wanted her on the team, even if it's just as support.

[@MegamiShin]

Huh, I’ll try this out after I beat the game once.

[@jessg0]

really cool mods, thanks a lot! this is 'controversial' (??): I was wondering how difficult it would be to develop a mod that replaces the random encounter system of the og game with actual demons walking around the dungeons, like in Persona games or SMT IV and V. imo this feature could really improve he ambience of the game a lot!!!

[@ZephhyrAgain]

hypothetically it could be done but it would be extremely difficult. Also the game doesn't really have the assets for it since no demon has a walking animation. Additionally the level design isn't really designed for such a thing.

[@jessg0]

​@@ZephhyrAgain I see. also, as far as I know, there isn't any other smt or persona game on PC that uses the same engine since the PC port was made with Unity (bc if there were other games it would be plausible to export the assets as you said)

[@jessg0]

​@@ZephhyrAgainI agree with the game design comment, it's like a big change that could destroy the game mechanics

[@jessg0]

I agree with your game design comment, it's like a big change that could destroy the game mechanics

[@DanielLucasdeVCruz]

Hello. Could you provide the link to the SMT Modding Discord?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

discord.gg/aps6R5N5DW

[@CryonicCy]

​@@ZephhyrAgain by the way just a follow up question does magic pierce with this mod?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

@@CryonicCy it does

[@CryonicCy]

@@ZephhyrAgain yes, now I can play default improve nocturne as magic build. I played hard type as physical early game was pain Wait magic damage cap is also remove right?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

@@CryonicCy no, this mod pack is not a comprehensive rebalance. If you're wanting those kinds of features you'd be best off waiting until I've completed my rebalance mod.

[@bellamylawx9479]

I'll finally be able to use sakahagi

[@Artenuga]

Any mods for additional NG+ benefits? Keeping levels, money, skills, magatamas, etc

[@ZephhyrAgain]

All of the above in fact.

[@punishedsneed]

imagine getting filtered by nocturne so hard you need this modpack

[@stealthy9156]

Extra boss press turn hmmm yes casual filtered indeed

[@punishedsneed]

@@stealthy9156 >wowie zowie we gave the boss an extra press turn! meanwhile the overwhelming amount of other shit that makes the other parts of the game absolutely fucking trivial

[@Ana-op9tx]

​@@punishedsneedYou can remove features you don't like. Also try beating Matador with 3 press turns. He will decrease your defence drastically, focus and then use Andalucia every single time, good luck with that.

[@ophidianmind333]

Can you toggle the mod features on and off? For example, if I wanted the bosses to have an extra turn but I don't want the features that make the game easier, could I disable the unwanted features?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

Yes, you can just remove any mods you don't want from the mod folder. All of the mods are individually available for download as well.

[@ophidianmind333]

@@ZephhyrAgain Excellent, thanks for the info. This project looks awesome.

[@nesmario123]

also one thing to ask... can you replace the fmv to make it widescreen? or is that just too much to ask?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

There's another mod on GB for widescreen FMVs

[@nesmario123]

@@ZephhyrAgain interesting but the other mod i saw just simply cropped with no stretch... now if some madman reanimated all of nocturne's fmvs this game would be fully blessed

[@Troyless]

Is this for Switch or PC?

[@dutchielander2478]

I'm going to try this out. Looks fun, but game breaking.

[@deyvispitbull5230]

can you unlock trophies on steam using the modpack??

[@ZephhyrAgain]

I don't think anything prevents that

[@blackfrost8777]

I'm still keeping my hype saved for the day we get more demons imported into Nocturne, get some more variety like SMT IV/IV Apocalypse

[@bud11_2]

huge

[@MatthiewPurple]

no u

[@skeremonsterdeathweight9511]

I know it's a bit late but, can I install this modpack on the switch version?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

currently no

[@Vitor20XX]

I liked - Mini-map - Buffs and Debuffs can be viewed - Boss only demons can be fused - Pierce affects magic The rest makes the game easier or harder, i didn't liked that much, i just want a vanilla improved experience.

[@Kamenriderbuild964]

I have tried this and the steam version will crash whenever it has mods could you tell me anyway to stop this I should also mention I'm on new game plus

[@ZephhyrAgain]

could you describe the circumstances some more? When specifically does the game crash?

[@Kamenriderbuild964]

@@ZephhyrAgainnevermind I found out the reason why it wasn't working it was the mod that was giving my team more exp then normal and since my MC and demons were already at max level I guess that caused the game to freeze

[@Nyxo1000]

this works with spanish sub game ? 😮😮

[@ZephhyrAgain]

Functionally yes but all of the text changes are only in English for now

[@Nyxo1000]

@@ZephhyrAgain I see thank you so much this looks sick

[@pourygin9496]

I think giving demons access to the item pool is overpowered and silly. Analyzing bosses isn't worth doing if you can't see the amount of hp they have remaining. I think your fusible boss mod should have their fusions unlocked upon defeat.

[@ZephhyrAgain]

To be perfectly honest I actually agree with you on all 3 of these things. I'm working on a more general rebalance of the game atm and I've added a passive skill that allows demons to use items which should make that feature a bit less powerful. As for making the bosses only fusible after they've been defeated, I would add that as a condition if I knew which flags were associated with which bosses but currently I don't and there isn't really a good way of finding out without a lot of trial and error.

[@pourygin9496]

@@ZephhyrAgain What do you plan to do to rebalance the game?

[@ZephhyrAgain]

@@pourygin9496 I've got a lot of changes lined up. It'd be too much to go into here but I've made most of the changes that Hardtype made along with some ideas borrowed from games like DDS2, SMTIVA, SMTV and SH2. At the moment I'm going through the game adjusting encounters and bosses as I go.

[@pourygin9496]

@@ZephhyrAgain I'm working on a list of ideas to rebalance/rework Nocturne. In case you're interested.

[@onemirrionyen]

Goated shit

[@MatthiewPurple]

Thank you!

[@natiecon3934]

should let you save anywhere

[@spudsbuchlaw]

Uncompressed music??

[@Chr1s_1986]

mmh idk switching for every demon sounds a bit to good imo foucus for magic sounds broken too and only 3 buffs sounds like smt 5 but this isent smt 5 its 3 xD. Sadly not a mod for me then and i rather play the Hard Smt 3 mod a bit more.

[@kandori]

>smt v press turn system Is this mod supposed to make the game worse?

[@AmorBuffer]

least contrarian SMT fan

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

No, and you can just remove it if you like, you don't have to include it

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

To add to this, there is a version of the overhauled Press Turn system that makes it more like SMT IV's rather than V's

[@HollowGolem]

Love or hate the whole package, combat is the only thing I had yet to see anyone complain about in SMTV. And here you are.

[@kandori]

@@HollowGolem Nocturne's combat works just fine. Changing things just to change them is a waste of time.

[@tomo8940]

Basically Persona gameplay the mod

[@vandagylon2885]

Mod 4 skrubz.