Smyth scandal: Church of England victims fight for compensation

[@DKSCaminong]

Those bishops who had knowledge and didn't take necessary actions are truly ENABLERS.

[@HumbleMuslima]

I would say accomplices.

[@janetbrown5622]

They should be charged ​@@HumbleMuslima

[@jonriley8342]

So fxxxing creepy seeing his wife smile away while this monster is being asked those questions.

[@paulholdsworth2502]

Spot on !

[@ompiers]

Yes, very creepy. Why is she smiling? Very sick people.

[@elizabethedwards3607]

I was thinking the same thing

[@kate-yk8gv]

Sick excuse for a woman

[@wendysimpson6395]

I know. Turns my stomach. Apparently she served tea after his abuse in his shed. They had to wear adult nappies ffs.

[@pauldurkee4764]

They should be compensated, out of Welby's pension, and anyone else's who were connected, but more than one person needs to go over this. I hope the victims take legal action.

[@susangarbutt7189]

I am sick of people getting away with this sort of evil when other people are jailed for hurty words.

[@Flunkbox]

Probably get compensation off the government and not the actual criminals

[@debbierennox931]

Totally agree all those high up that knew the victims should be payed out of their pensions ! Now that the monster is dead

[@hannetjiedebeer9480]

@pauldurkee What should happen and what happens after severe abuse are two different things. The internal torment continues. Wery often, in cases like these, the victims are too traumatized and even ashamed. They don't have any strength left to take legal action. The law has failed many victims and even sides with the purbotrators, who are sly, cunning, and convincing. It is also painful to relive the trauma when judges pull the victim apart to "establish the truth." Even though justice is the ultimate victory on behalf of other victims. The calm after the storm very often causes misplaced guilt and shame. Lick the wounds in private and withdraw from society that allowed the abuse to continue.

[@juliebrownlie5330]

That costs money, lots of money and they dont have the massive amounts like the greedy ungodly church has.

[@margaretthompson1258]

The Archbishop should pay the victim's out of his very rich pocket as he was the one covering it up!

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

Smyth got away with it, doing the same things in Zimbabwe & later S Africa that he'd previously done in the UK.

[@TrishaRodgers-ng2xc]

His estate needs to be prosecuted

[@rev.valeriehamann4049]

God has seen it all, he has not "gotten away with it" - he will pay for abusing his power and position, God will hold him accountable. The saddest part is he is a "man of the cloth" but thinks God doesn't exist!

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

@@rev.valeriehamann4049 How do you explain god not preventing the decades of abuse by Smyth?

[@BlackStump172]

@@DavidZ4-gg3dmFree will and choices while we are on earth .

[@MGJS71]

@@rev.valeriehamann4049 Smyth was never an ordained minister. His only "cloth" was Silk, i.e. he was a legal advocate. All this rage at CofE distracts from the fact his main role was in the legal profession.

[@robflynn509]

Cathy Newman, you and your team are doing a fantastic job, please keep up the good work for the victims and for justice - surely there's more probing questions to be put, not only to the Church of England, but to Winchester College and other organisations in which Smyth carried out the abuse...

[@MGJS71]

@@robflynn509 the Headmaster of Winchester College was the only man in England who actually stood up to Smyth. Interesting how nobody wants to hold the legal profession responsible despite the fact Smyth was a judge & senior barrister who retained English legal contacts during his life in Africa.

[@jessicadutridge9882]

I'm in the US (Ohio) and have never heard about this story until it popped up on my feed. I'm fascinated now. Great journalism for sure.

[@berniethebolt3007]

Personally, I would arrest, charge, prosecute and imprison Welby for obstruction of justice.

[@deborahcollard4560]

Why would the victims want to meet someone like him?!

[@thebluehotel426]

It helps to confront the person who could have stopped the abuse, but chose not to.

[@heisenberg2411]

Why is the Media calling them young men, when they were young boys?

[@jagaloon216]

They are trying to suggest the victims knew what they were doing and could consent.

[@MGJS71]

@@heisenberg2411 because the worst abuse was of university students.

[@Michael-j4l3d]

​@@MGJS71to be honest that's unusual since they usually like em much younger and typically loose interest when they get to the young adult stage

[@MGJS71]

@Michael-j4l3d Smyth wasn't a paedophile - this is getting lost in all the hysteria. The reports make it clear that rape never occurred. He administered fanatical beatings to young men who had been persuaded/"groomed" to consent. Smyth's motive was anti-sexual, perhaps because he himself had been abused at one point. He was careful to operate unaccountably & within the law until he went off the rails in early 80s. Closer to Opus Dei fanaticism than paedophile priests.

[@Michael-j4l3d]

@@MGJS71 most priests are into minors in just saying it's unusual that he also pursued people of legal age on the side.

[@ShawnDeBarry]

John Smyth’s abuse was known about since the 1970’s and 80’s (by many in the church) and the Archbishop of Canterbury resigns in 2024! I’m sure the hundreds of victims over the past 50 years will be so grateful! 😡

[@judithmatthews8460]

What about Winchester College they failed to report the abuse which they were obliged to do. Why aren’t they being also held accountable ?

[@MGJS71]

@@judithmatthews8460 what was the law in 1982? The Headmaster of Winchester was the only person in England to firmly stand up against Smyth. It was the Iwerne Trust which seems to have been keen to protect its own reputation.

[@judithmatthews8460]

@@MGJS71 NO stop excusing it. They had a moral obligation to report and they would have known it. I worked in education in the 80s and it may not have been law but we were recommended to report abuse after any disclosure. I know no staff I worked with who would have failed to report to authorities. I received training to ensure that my response didn’t jeopardise legal action. I certainly reported cases immediately to social services and action was taken. Winchester college did not. They knew they should. They were private education and protected their reputation stop excusing it,

[@MGJS71]

@@judithmatthews8460 the fact Winchester College DID involve the police in another abuse case at almost the same time seems to disprove the idea they were protecting their reputation. The Headmaster was asked by parents of victims not to involve the police. The real unanswered question is that of Smyth's status in the legal world: he was a judge & QC. What knowledge did his colleagues in the legal profession have of all this? Were they keen to protect THEIR reputation?

[@juliebrownlie5330]

@@judithmatthews8460thats because you were blinkered to trying to get a scoop accusing parents instead of looking at yourselves.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

May every ounce of gold in the church have to be sold in order to compensate the abused.

[@remainanonymous93]

Amen.

[@juliebrownlie5330]

Yes i agree with that. And take the pensions away from all those who chose to turn a blind eye. Evil to the their very core.

[@Normality_Remembered]

CofE are MASSIVELY wealthy. They SHOULD give compensation for inadequate response! Fully support these victims. (only delaying for 3 years - disgraceful!)

[@TheWobblyQueen]

They paid of the former bishop of Blackburn £25000 to “retire” while under investigation for SA charges going back as far as 1992 and let him continue until 2013. I’m convinced one of the reasons the enquire took so long is to hinder legal recourse so the statue of limitations passes and the cases have to then be referred to as historical and courts can rule because of the abusers age is not in the publics interest to pursue charges.

[@susansimpson6049]

All compensation scandals take years, all talk and promises and then no action!

[@scinformation7229]

They always refuse to accept any moral responsibility

[@lucius4556]

Don't forget Bishop Peter Ball !

[@juliebrownlie5330]

@@susansimpson6049the victims will die before tgey see a penny just like those in the Post Office scandal.

[@osmosis1st]

Not blaming others whilst blaming others! What vile creatures these elites are and how good they are at closing ranks and protecting each other! If there's a devil then they're making his job very easy 👹

[@juliebrownlie5330]

They are the devil.

[@PMMac-l2n]

Smyth's wife knew her mon-ster of a husband was taking boys down to their soundproofed garden shed - so what's going to be done about her complicity. As for Reverend Sue Colman and her husband, Sir James (the Colman's mustard heir), stepping back from their church roles - well, that's just not good enough. They should step down, not back, and be stripped of their titles. Then they should both fall to their knees in front of Smyth's victims and beg their forgiveness, before the two of them, along with Mrs Smyth and Justin Welby, are all thrown into jail.

[@susansimpson6049]

The most sickening thing of all is Welby remaining in the Lords, he had to be forced to resign but not marched out of office but guess unless the lords kick him out he wont resign there either! ...absolutely appalling!!😢😢

[@helenweatherby1694]

Hi time there were no Lords Spiritual. They are an irrelevance.

[@juliebrownlie5330]

Look at Huw Edwards. Suspended sentence, full pension, big mansion. Hes beeb rewarded not punished. Its fkn sick.

[@kevinwilliams1768]

no compensation too victims is unacceptable .

[@vjamesg100]

Learn to spell.

[@juliebrownlie5330]

But thats how this will end.

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

High-ranking people in various institutions turning a blind eye, letting this happen & in many cases helping the perpetrators is why it continues for so long.

[@Liverpool-s5n]

Actually true, and because they are evil, are separated from us in regard to having no morals and no ethics, evil to the core, look down on honest people, decent people

[@susansimpson6049]

They all protect their own, the Catholic Church is the same!! 😢

[@Liverpool-s5n]

@@susansimpson6049 True, so true, and really no difference between Romanism and Anglicanism, coming from the same mother, just outwardly different in the way they present one another.

[@robertsherman9975]

Absolutely true. They have no interest in stopping this horrific crime.

[@Liverpool-s5n]

@@robertsherman9975 Sad thing is that it is nothing new as it all began with this church in the Middle Ages

[@christineadam6764]

If any compensation is awarded it should come from Welbys pension. !

[@kerlyn3582]

I have to disagree with the words, and I quote, 'John Smyth was an evangelical Christian'. NO! To be more specific, John Smyth was a horrific abuser who called himself a Christian - BIG DIFFERENCE!

[@juliebrownlie5330]

Fkn big difference but not to the C of E who are wayyyy to powerful to be held accountable.

[@yoveeditors5502]

My late brother was abused by this man in Zimbabwe. How will he be compansated. I know the church eont care about Zimbabwean boys who were sadomised by this beast. My family want justice

[@eileenahern-ku9nx]

They can't bring your brother back to life. Would the word "sorry" work ?❤

[@Grelotmystiqueetal]

@@eileenahern-ku9nxwow. How dismissive.

[@nutcracker2916]

@@eileenahern-ku9nx How insensitive. Probably one of these so called "Christians"

[@carcher3279]

@@eileenahern-ku9nx typical. 😡🤬

[@Paigeturner7]

This is beyond horrible and I’m so sorry for this tragedy. You will get full justice when the Lord Jesus the Judge of the world returns in wrath

[@lindamcmillan7618]

Why ishis wife grinning like a Cheshire cat this is appalling

[@rev.valeriehamann4049]

I live in South Africa and have written a book called: Crimes Against Children South Africa. This "man of God" - his behaviour is shocking. If I knew, I would have confronted him head on - he belongs in prison for life.

[@helenweatherby1694]

He’s dead.

[@theseasideagain19]

I’m not even sure financial recompense is paramount, recognition attrition and acknowledgment of abuse on a historical scale is needed. Saville did exactly the same thing via the NHS. Prayers to all those impacted by this evil. C of E should atone for this loophole of neglect.

[@susangarbutt7189]

Too many people are getting away with their evil actions.

[@derekrobsondirectbuildersl5863]

He should be stripped of all royalties and money he has taken from this government and where were all those bribes going?

[@scinformation7229]

"this is not abuse in the church of england" What a sly comment, it is unbelievable? ?

[@robertmiller1299]

It’s funny how the descendants of slaves liberated nearly 180 years ago will get compensation, but the victims of Smyth will not.

[@flora-3603]

It's funny how the UK church dumped a sadistic predator in Africa.

[@sjb3527]

w0w, good analogy to inhumanity. Thought provoking.

[@juliebrownlie5330]

@@flora-3603its not funny. These victims need recognition and true compensation. There also need to prison time for them who turned a blind eye.

[@TomJohnstone-uz3wl]

Welby was quite willing for reparations but not for abuse victims. If he had brought to light the atrocious abuse and informed the police the victims could well have been compensated. He is one sick puppy and deserves worse than public abuse.

[@maxhall2086]

The legal loophole denying compensation is not the time before the allegations were brought to the authorities attention but the fact Smyth was not employed by the church. They still can be compensated, the church should do it because it is the right thing to do and not because of any legal compulsion.

[@TomJohnstone-uz3wl]

@ Thanks for the clarification….

[@happymatt5512]

spot on - they have the nerve to use an excuse not to compensate victims. But yet set aside millions for reparatations????

[@carcher3279]

@@happymatt5512 let us not play oppression olympics.

[@happymatt5512]

@@carcher3279 You missed the big picture here. I, like 99% of other men and women on this page, are on the right side, the side of the innocent victims whose lives are forever ruined, scarred and damaged. The least they sould get is compensation, a proper (in person) apology and for heads to roll. I believe those who knew and did nothing are just as guilty. They should get life imprisonment and their assets should be divided equally to the victims.

[@jiminycrint]

The Church of England protected Smyth and are culpable in prolonging and contributing to the suffering of this serial abusers victims. If the CofE isn’t responsible then why is the Archbishop resigning?

[@maryearll3359]

The Church is very rich, very rich indeed. They should pay compensation and any legal fees. The broken could use the money to help them heal after something that was not their fault - they were lambs to the slaughter. Do the right thing - don't let them down AGAIN. ❤

[@sd560]

Shameful!!! Best to compensate and close this nasty chapter once and for all! 🤬🤬🤬🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@elisabethschwartz160]

Just like the Catholic Church! Benedict XVI resigned over the sexual scandals, but it doesn't mean the abuse stopped! I doubt! Clean house and clear the safes!

[@Dana9437]

yes, compensate and close!!!!

[@Seventeen_Seconds]

Why is his missus smiling like a demon while someone asks he why he abused people 💀

[@Michael-j4l3d]

Its her fëtīsh

[@Redsky5436]

My thoughts exactly, I think Smythe got off sexually with the abuse of the children

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

don't be a snowflake

[@Seventeen_Seconds]

@@MostlyLoveOfMusic explain how that's being a snowflake

[@DavidZ4-gg3dm]

Welby & Smyth were friends for many years before Welby became Archbishop of Canterbury.

[@hilarymiseroy]

He never met him you trolling moron.

[@johnreed8336]

Well we'll what a surprise .

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

What a holy country 😂😂😂

[@scinformation7229]

I doubt if Welby knew.

[@sandrapicton8961]

That doesn't surprise me.

[@Gibbo1]

The woman behind pervert Smyth seems to think it's all rather amusing @ 0.52

[@MixedUpSignals]

The fancy dress does not guarantee morality or exonerate guilt.

[@jillallan8985]

This man is a cold, calculating, wicked miser who is as nearly as bad as Smyth!

[@MichaelDisciple247]

I'm a Christian and no fan of the C of E. I'm also so sickened by this..As well as covering abuse up, The C of E has over £8 billion in it's coffers, yet gives a pittance to the poor. And tells it's churches to pay for all their own heating, repairs etc. So About time they acted Christian, and compensate those who suffer with trauma of abuse all their lives...GOD is watching you C of E..

[@johnreed8336]

There WILL be a reckoning in this life or next .

[@dominicthomas8726]

God isn't real. C of E mostly know this. It isn't about religious beliefs it's about diddling kids and money. That's why the C of E is the richest "non profit" organisation in the UK.

[@sandrapicton8961]

@@johnreed8336 So true. Sometimes when justice is not served in this life it is a comfort to know no-one can escape the final judgement.

[@toptipple]

if god is watching,did he enjoy watching Smyth rape them boys,we're told god is in control of everything,so he either doesn't exist or he's an evil voyeur ,which one is it?

[@Donny427]

Imagine how many of this country's issues, take homelessness for example, could be solved if the C of E gave a fraction of it's money to it. Would finally be something Christian-like that they'd be doing.

[@elkpaz560]

Welby very keen to pay reparations for slavery even though the evidence is that the CoE was not a beneficiary and yet for this, people who are still alive and suffering and the enablers doing well too. Make Welby pay.

[@retsehcmaharg]

Birds of a feather flock together!

[@suecharnock9369]

apparently 'compensating' for someone owning slaves over 150 years ago is fine and millions are allocated for 'reparation' - but abuse and the victims from a couple of decades ago is not important enough to even report and sort out, let alone compensation those victims!

[@Dana9437]

Good point!

[@seanmcilvenie9097]

The taxpayers shouldn't pay for what the church did.

[@sandrapicton8961]

Exactly.

[@Grelotmystiqueetal]

He was acting as part of the church. It should come from that budget.

[@thomasshepard6030]

Every single one of these scumbags who were involved in covering this scandal should be arrested and if found guilty sent to prison including woke welby

[@johnreed8336]

Absolutely. Won't happen as they have a safety net of rich and powerful friends who will protect them from this .

[@PumpkinHoard]

@@johnreed8336 Give him a few weeks and he'll probably have a job at a Fortune 500 company.

[@sandrapicton8961]

@@johnreed8336 Sad but true, but they forget the final judgement.

[@tarquin4592]

How about reparations for these victims?

[@wendygillard2133]

Appalling! The Church of England is responsible by its negligence to report Smyth to the police.

[@happymatt5512]

Who replied on my post and said “let’s not okay oppression olympics”? What on earth are you talking about - the CofE has failed and needs to step up, pay compensation and get those who knew sent to jail!!!!

[@JelMain]

They still don't get it, these were criminal offences which have been committed, and admitted, and although the offender is now beyond human justice, the secondary derivative civil suits dealing with compensatory issues are only in this negotiatory phase as a preliminary to civil prosecutions. Civil Law prefers parties to a dispute to resolve their issues amicably, but given the history of ecclesiastical prevarication, obfuscation, victim-blaming and downright abuse, it's hard to see how that's possible. And as an example of a caritative operation...it's not pretty, is it?

[@Flunkbox]

What about imprisonment of offenders and not just compensation.

[@Dana9437]

right!

[@bobharrison4711]

When is Welby getting locked -up? He's a vile creature and "THEY" have known for years.

[@julioestebanperezescudero6246]

It is abuse by a church representative. The church has responsibility no matter where the abuses happened. Some people wish to play with words to get a way out from their part.

[@ryand141]

Agreed. Guilt by association. It's in the Makin Report.

[@SC-tl3px]

Can't they sue him?

[@paulstuart551]

The victims should sue the Church for neglect. The Church was aware of the abuse & were responsible for vetting & monitoring events they arranged. They chose to cover the scandal by sending him to Africa; Zimbabye threw him out & he was sent to South Africa where he continued to abuse boys. Smyth was a barrister like Starmer & avoided prosecution due to high connections. The Church is rich & should compensate, all people including worshippers should stand outside during sermons until they do the moral thing.

[@sandrapicton8961]

Very glad I left c of e becuase they closed the churches during covid which should have stayed open and been a comfort and support during those times - distancing and masks could have been worn for those terrified of infection. Gratefully Orthodox now.

[@MGJS71]

@@paulstuart551 Noone seems to have "sent" Smyth to Zimbabwe. He was careful to operate where he had no accountability. His connections to the legal profession were stronger than his connections to CofE, but Channel 4 etc seem to want to ignore that - why?

[@MGJS71]

@@sandrapicton8961 Lockdown was the thing Welby should really have resigned for.

[@happymatt5512]

All those times the CoFE ramble on about "social justice" yet don't help the victims!!! How two faced can you get? CoFE wake up, step up, take responsibility and pay up!!!!!!

[@dbw2286]

Iwerne camps were nearly exclusively run by, promoted by and used by Anglican churches. Iwerne was literally a vicar factory with a direct line from public schools to oxbridge CoE churches and then to London and home county CoE churches. It is a farce to say that the CoE is not responsible for smyth's abuse and for compensating victims.

[@johnreed8336]

Please continue to expose this fact to as many people and the media.

[@jonkozak3513]

Thank you for sharing this . I had no clue .

[@ljt3084]

Second largest land owner in the UK is the CofE. Spread the wealth.

[@elmwoodmotionpictures1765]

Yes. Pay the victims what they are due. No amount of money could ever cover the therapy and the pain

[@manichairdo9265]

RESTITUTION SHOULD NOT BE DENIED TO THE VICTIMS OF THE DEPRAVED CRIMINALS.

[@tinygold772]

Well done for not letting this slide after Dustbin Welby had to resign! Everyone who knew and there were many as I’ve read the Maiken and Rushton reports need to resign. It makes for grim reading and implicates many! Disgusting to try and get out of offering compensation. Because Welby failed to act the CofE is now culpable to compensate.

[@elliegarvey2952]

I cannot listen to Justin Welby - you are an absolute disgrace.

[@magshooper1017]

The church seem to be backing off as always

[@fredrikb343]

nothing new, imagine the poor victims during the time before the internet was a thing

[@MsKayla130]

They won't be sorry for anything! Their apologies are meaningless! Your Ministers knew and did nothing so they will just be spanked?! Pay up instead of hiding behind excuses!! 🙏📿 ❤🙏 I pray for all victims to find peace, strength & to regain some joy taken from you. You are all very brave for coming forward & speaking the Truth! 🙏 ❤

[@LondonBrazilianDancers]

Is this the English branch of Diddys crumbling empire?...

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

They will tell you not to blame them ...blame the Roman empire 😂

[@trevortrevortsr2]

As if who employed Smyth matters - these apologists are why the church has been a haven for sick abusers

[@DRobbo7798]

Apparently, he went to see 'King charles' to resign. 'Ok andy, I know, you've been caught, get out...NEXT, OH GOD! Excuse the pun...'

[@Llad2.0]

All bishops must should resign,banned, demoted,prohibitions. Bye😮

[@woodenseagull1899]

If there are parishioners left . It would be respectful to those poor victims. to BOYCOTT the Church of England this Sunday.....or maybe for ever!

[@Dana9437]

boycotting would send a powerful message!

[@nbbim2012]

He used CoE to access young boys since the 1970s who knew & condoned his behaviour- disgusting. Like the good book says Peter pays for Paul and Paul pays for all. CoE should suffer idk if they go bankrupt- it'll match their lack of morality too

[@laetitialogan2002]

Horrendous....

[@FrederikPedersen-gq6nh]

He should be arrested and charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice

[@strav1235]

Where’s the apology and financial compensation from Winchester College - Rishi Sunak’s old school….

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

Why yes ...😂😂 rishis grand father built it ..... . Next they will be blaming Gandhi I suppose and protecting the British east India company ..😂😂

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

Lots of stravs brothers and sisters attended Winchester or was it attended by rishi only ...what a stupid racist arrogant remark ..😂

[@strav1235]

@@rodgerhargoon3402 the comment was about privilege in both Winchester and the College. The fact that you read it as racist says everything we need to know about your capacity to listen to others.

[@nealejames2243]

And still no resignations, sackings or public shaming regarding the cover ups (for decades) in Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford etc

[@RylkoBM-q9z]

Islington children “care” homes

[@Granga879]

I’m so shocked, they’re not gonna compensate victims abroad I am absolutely shocked and surprised said nobody

[@macmachine]

Even as a 14 year old I kicked back at a perve teacher in my school in Scotland who became inappropriate. What's wrong with some people they wouldn't do the same?

[@susangarbutt7189]

This story just gets worse by the day. Welby knew about it and kept silent , he is happy to give reparations to others for slavery which happened so long ago that none of these slaves are still alive to claim anything. These survivors are victims of his complicit silence and should get compensation for their suffering first , either out of Welby`s own pocket or the C of E .

[@johnreed8336]

Of both !

[@Rock-x5s]

I'm surprised that we haven't seen any law firms organising a '' class act '' for compensation for all those abused ?

[@MGJS71]

@@Rock-x5s Smyth was a lawyer, not a priest. The legal profession protects its own: they are the "new priesthood".

[@smiley50ish]

Was that his wife or that person smiling behind him sad

[@johnreed8336]

No , probably complicate and an enabler . This is almost as bad as the abuser or even worse .

[@rebeccaharris7650]

Spot on Cathy about open the flood gates! My guess is this is the tip of the iceberg. There wont be much of the fund left.

[@harrietkinloch7451]

Give the reparations money Welby promised to foreigners, to the victims!

[@eddiehockley4144]

They are doing a remake of " The Exorcist".In the new version the mother hires the devil to pull the priest out of the son.

[@RichJames-n4k]

He's too late. Pathetic

[@AbiBrown-q9k]

evil man, an apology is a slap on the faces of all victims- enablers

[@artoflament]

Welby stood by as Reverend Dr Bernard Randall was sacked and disgraced for preaching a moderate sermon on LGBTQ issues. It is justice that he now suffers the loss of his own job and disgrace. The difference between Reverend Dr Randall and Welby is that Dr Randall did nothing. Absolutely nothing in anyway causative of his punishment. Welby, on the other hand, may well deserve this outcome. I hope Welby’s current predicament is sufficient to make him reconsider his allegiances.

[@susansimpson6049]

Of course they wont get compensation, the same as the post office scandal and the waspis! They just talk about it for years until all the victims have died! 😢😢

[@johnreed8336]

Spot on .

[@thebluehotel426]

You are party to this abuse, Welby.

[@stevemellor655]

So you hit various church of England pension funds to help compensate these victims . Isn't that so Welby. We want to apologise, but we don't want to compensate you financially.

[@gabriellebernard198]

When is the Church going to stop using the parishioners like a brothel. What is wrong with these old men. And people need to stop supporting their crimes

[@TheMeakster]

Why oh why in this day and age do we take the words of clerics, this applies to ALL religions, as honourable and trustworthy people. If anything we should apply extra caution when anyone claims to be a minister, and nothing they say should be treated as fact.

[@juliegwilliam8503]

Because it would bankrupt the CofE! 😮 And the CofE has billions!

[@bikerpaul68]

Watching the interview with Ian Paul makes me glad I'm an atheist. If he is expressing the Christian viewpoint then I want nothing to do with Christianity.

[@derekrobsondirectbuildersl5863]

Follow the money train it's riddled with property corruption too

[@richardrickford3028]

Strong elements in the Anglican church are still trying to weasel out of their responsibility to the victims. They are terrified that the Smyth case will cause other cases of abuse within the Church to be highlighted and more people to demand apologies and compensations. They do not know where it will end. I think that flood needs to happen and the Anglican church needs to apologise and pay up. They are a wealthy institution. They just cause a whole load of new hurt with their legal quibbles. Not just the Yewen camps but all Anglican and Christian camps need to be investigated - by people who are trained in such matters and are outside the church such as senior police officers and social workers. It is absolutely no damn good expecting the church to patrol itself.

[@sandrapicton8961]

Agreed.

[@fearlessmasters6678]

A loophole and they MUST compensate ALL victims! They are now liars and ARE STILL standing by him even in his death!!!! For sexual abuse!!!

[@CamCam-mq6ji]

the only thing worse than the abuser are the people who enable them. they don't do the abusing themselves but ensure that the conditions are present for the abuse to take place.

[@johnmact5548]

He should face the law fully. Saying sorry is so lame.He and all those who knew (many) should all face jail and their pensions handed over to the victims

[@Uniquettt]

Does he think that will help them knowing he kept his mouth closed even if it was carried out here there or any where there abuse is life changing mentally and emotional even the very sad loss of life. His lack of actions is unforgivable for me personally. Its not about the compensation its seen the church take strong positive and visible action in the public eye. He still feels he is entitled to keep title and pension. when the church wants past slaves to receive finances for historic cruel slavery trade

[@tr1k716]

They are responsible for not reporting it to the Police they could have stopped it as soon as the first reports came in but decided not to.

[@johnreed8336]

Old boys network again . Too rich and powerful to be bothered with Christian values and 'lower ' people. Satan indeed has many 'hands' helping him in his evil work within the Christian church . Expose this to the light and those complicit should face prosecution , defrocking and permanent expulsion from the Church .

[@NoraMoran-wl2bw]

Sorry is only a word victim’s suffer for life

[@tanyacollins3732]

SHOCKER!!! the church refuses to accept its responsibility for the preds they let near these kids!!!!!

[@Māris-o7k]

Utterly vial person.

[@wendysimpson6395]

He did all this abuse in Jesus's name. Their way of getting out of paying is disgusting.