Snabb Semiauto Conversion of a Dutch Mannlicher

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Snabb was a Swedish company created to market a system for converting bolt action rifles into semiautomatic rifles. The system was patented in the US in 1938, making this one of the very last attempts at such a conversion. It appears that the company made a substantial number of overtures to many different nations in search of a customer, as Snabb conversions can be found built on a wide variety of rifles - several patterns of Mauser, the US M1917 Enfield, 1903 Springfield, and in this particular case a Dutch Mannlicher. Not surprisingly, no country was shortsighted enough to actually convert its rifles into Snabb semiautos - you will understand why when you see how the rifle works!
The basic system is a gas trap one, but complicated by the use of a two-part system of interlocking ratchet teeth so that the forward blast of gas from firing pulls the muzzle cap forward, but it is the rearward return of the muzzle cap which actually propels the bolt rearward. The bolt remains a two-lug rotating type, with the manual handle removed and a screw cam added to the rear to convert the rearward movement of the operating rod into a rotary movement to unlock the bolt.
The strange stock is necessitated by the extension of the receiver to fully enclose the bolt's travel (not necessary with a manually operated bolt action rifle). With that extension, the trigger remains too far forward for a conventional grip, and a pistol grip is required. Snabb probably used the thumbhole style because it is stronger than a standalone grip. On this particular rifle, the original follower in the magazine is missing, but the rifle appears to have remained fed by 5-round Mannlicher clips. In addition, the rifle has been rebarreled in .303 British as part of the conversion, for unknown reasons.
Finally, it is worth pointing out that there is no "Snabb" marking anywhere on conversions like this one. They are quite distinctive and easy to recognize, but very difficult to research without knowning the name in the first place.
Thanks to the Dutch National Military Museum for allowing me access to film this rifle! Check them out at: www.nmm.nl
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[@anchorbait6662]

Q: What's behind the secret trap door? A: Solid wood and disappointment :(

[@kevinsullivan3448]

I'm definitely going to start using secret doors with blank walls behind them...

[@indramatic]

the story of my life

[@konobuzoggu239]

indramatic gods damn it, you stole my joke

[@randywatson8347]

Firearms quote of the year!

[@soulismadclearinmind8396]

I spat my coffee half way across the room, laughing. Great delivery, Ian.

[@chitoryu12]

Ian never insults a gun, so you know he means it when he calls a gun "military sabotage to adopt it".

[@anzaca1]

Your haven't watched him talk about the Cobray Terminator.

[@mrmors1344]

@@anzaca1 that isn't a gun. that is a pair of pipes, a spring, and some plastic.

[@jameshealy4594]

Next from the Snabb corporation, boats converted into helicopters with the minor addition of 18,416 parts. Please note heliboat will not actually float in converted form.

[@toggtlas7099]

😂

[@twirlipofthemists3201]

nor fly.

[@scwhk1]

There were actually quite a few of those so call flying car design in the 70's which were exactly like that. You need a lot of extra parts and quite a lot of work to change between a car and a plane.

[@XShifty0311X]

Sad Doggo working as intended.

[@ethanspaziani5269]

Hahaha

[@falloutlover5443]

Ian: "And nobody fell for it." Me: "Well that's a bit harsh, they were just trying to market their idea." *sees how the thing works* Me: "Okay that was predatory."

[@IonoTheFanatics]

yeah, at first i thought... looks cool, and hey who wouldn't want semi auto rifle at a fraction of the price of new ones.. then ian start showing the disassembled parts and i thought, ok... that might be a problem... and by the end of it, just.. NOPE... sorry, they were right, there's no way in hell anyone would take it for the military.

[@WineScrounger]

Iono Sama or anything else 😂

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

+Iono Sama (IonoTheFanatic) Whats sad is that the straight pull actuon of the 1895 gives itself naturally for an easy conversion. Just drill a hole and mount a piaton that holds the bolt in a vice. barley any new metal parts and ptobably even some of the furniture can be kept.

[@polygondwanaland8390]

I need no channel youtube! Funny enough, this would actually be a decent system, if you threw the entire front end into the garbage and just made it short stroke gas piston!

[@michalsoukup1021]

@@WineScrounger We know that Ian would gladly buy one if he found it at an acceptable price at some pawnshop that does not know what they are selling... Now, would he bring it to two gun match?

[@linksbro1]

♫The gas is connected to the... gas trap!♫ ♫The gas trap's connected to the.... ratchet teeth!♫ ♫The ratchet teeth are connected to the... other ratchet teeth!♫ ♫The other ratchet teeth are connected to the... guide rod!♫ ♫The guide rod's connected to the... bolt carrier!♫ ♫The bolt carrier's connected to the... bolt by these ears!♫ ♫These Snabbs ♫ These Snabbs ♫ These Snabbs♫

[@bchin4005]

Linksbro Thank you, that's precisely what was going through my head while watching this

[@machintelligence]

Product of Goldburg engineering and Acme mfg.

[@P0LYPRO]

Exactly what i was thinking

[@vaclav_fejt]

Which melody does it belong to?

[@3dog100]

Václav Fejt American Country song from 2003, it's titled "Drinkin Bone"

[@Maddin1313]

Take out the screw that holds in the gastrap to launch the gastrap at the enemy, and end them rightly!

[@thejohn6912]

Maddin1313 then use the gun more effectively as a bolt action

[@buildingblocks51]

Good "end them rightly" reference

[@Pcm979]

15:49 - I dub it 'Snabbotage'.

[@cacheman]

This is top-shelf.

[@franciscoschwarz6451]

😂

[@CyborgPilord]

*cue Beastie Boys

[@ZGryphon]

I can't stand it. I know you planned it.

[@absoluteinfinity1197]

Ian at 9:54 "We now see that exactly why this was never adopted by anybody". This is the only understandable sentence in the disassembly.

[@Sheerwater909]

I don't see a problem with it. Assign every soldier two rifles and a personal armourer. Shoot one while the other is being serviced. Problem solved! :)

[@ArtyTheta]

John Brooks Squire, hand me my weapon!

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

You might as well have them in full plate at that point.

[@alpollick4599]

John Brooks - Not 2, 4 should do it.

[@TheRogueWolf]

Personal armorer? Heck, I think you'd need a NASCAR pit crew!

[@ayebraine]

I stared in disbelief. One thing to have a weirdo design, mind works in mysterious ways. But another is to make op rod and bolt carrier that are connected by _two nuts and a washer_. So how do I disassemble this? First, you need 2 different gauge wrenches...

[@Mrgunsngear]

crazy design

[@pasty734]

How can it be cheaper than buying a new rifle? In the end you change: the stock, the trigger mechanism, you heavily modify the bolt and the receiver and then you add the gas system which in this case is as complex as hell ad finally you might want to change the barrell as well...all of this to keep what? The rear sight?

[@peterfranzen3538]

pasty734 I was thinking that my self so much complex machining of new parts I don't think you'll save much time or money with this monster.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

Well, for this particular rifle they replaced the barrel, but for a normal conversion the barrel, upper receiver, magazine, and trigger group would be intact and the bolt would only be modified.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

This is a straight pull. You could get away with just a new gas system and half a wooden furniture.

[@MarvinCZ]

I need no channel youtube! This is a turn-bolt rifle, not straight-pull. The "Dutch Mannlicher" or Geweer M.95 is not the same rifle as the Austro-Hungarian M1985 rifle.

[@hanserfratz]

It would "save" money on r&d development and testing and army trials and you wouldn't have to make them all from scratch. Still not worth it at all

[@MrDoctorCrow]

Fun fact, Snabb were also hired as the architects for the Drowned City of R'lyeh.

[@Seelenschmiede]

MrDoctorCrow 😂😂😂 🖒🖒🐙

[@wendigo1619]

The way this gun goes together makes me think it was meant for a nobleman with a group of private armorers to service his weapon

[@matthayward7889]

Gorgeous looking stock! “Just solid wood and disappointment” made me proper belly laugh 😂

[@WineScrounger]

Matt Hayward ikr. Why didn’t they just drill a hole?

[@louisbeerreviews8964]

I don’t know

[@politickz6591]

WineScrounger considering how complicated this thing is I wouldn’t be surprised if that would completely compromise the entire system

[@LawkzBro]

*Just solid wood and disappointment* 4:55

[@LawkzBro]

the longer you explain the inner workings of this gun the less i understand, can someone confirm if this is normal?

[@rockchalk4815]

Pedro Vanderlei Can't wait for the t-shirt of this quote.

[@jameshealy4594]

I was totally lost at several points, but I stuck it out and got there in the end. The simple version is - everything about this is terrible and that's why nobody bought any. Plus something about pistons and springs. ;)

[@joelmuller358]

Sounds like my morning routine.

[@kalashloy4179]

oh SNABB!

[@ashtray4757]

Snabb = fast in Swedish

[@Maydupnem777]

quick*

[@Gustaf359]

it is the same

[@TheSwedeMcCoy]

As well as "rapid" and possibly some other synonyms as the English language have more words than Swedish.

[@erikenqvist9081]

Quick would be kvick in Swedish.

[@HunnenDoog]

rapid in swedish

[@crushedcranium]

"Solid wood and disappointment" hahaha 😂

[@jamesfieweger8648]

Glorywhole, exactly what I was thinking

[@StrongZeroPowerHour]

I scrolled down knowing this comment would be here

[@adamleazer4266]

My porn name...

[@criffermaclennan]

The word convoluted springs to mind

[@Metalkillerification]

Springs haha

[@skogen5357]

The Incredible Irony of this weapon being called the fast conversion (fast in swedish = snabb) while in reality its more complicated than nuclear power plant is just hilarious

[@afberglund2764]

First the title of the video is confusing and then the swedish companys namn was snabb 😂

[@VegasCyclingFreak]

Granted, it's not real practical for military use but the engineering behind this design is pretty clever stuff

[@budzas]

Yo dawg I heard you like rods with springs so i put a rod to push a rod under spring with a spring to push a rod.

[@VegasCyclingFreak]

lol

[@clod2692]

to me this designs seems all but clever. Not an engineer, but man... complicated things aren't always better

[@VegasCyclingFreak]

It's not a design from the ground up, it's a conversion. If it was designed from scratch, I'd agree that it's not a great design. But it IS a conversion.

[@vguyver2]

Vegas Cycling Freak its functional and an impressive feat for the designer to make so many conversion kits for various guns. Unfortunately, not practical for anyone. Still, an impressive attempt.

[@BigSwede7403]

Oh so that is what "Mechanicly interesting but hell no!" looks like.

[@millwaterpublishing1387]

Another one from the Rube Goldberg School of Firearms Design.

[@krpajda]

It's so impractical, I want four of them.

[@wingracer1614]

You would need four of them to have any chance of firing four rounds in field conditions.

[@thejay8963]

Good, you're gonna need to cannibalize three for parts.

[@Ganuesthai]

Open the butt trap door Hal. I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. What's the problem? If I did so, we would be very disappointed.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

The Howell conversion for the SMLE suddenly seems more appealing to me...

[@wingracer1614]

Yeah this thing makes the Howell look like an AK

[@CThyran]

The bare basics of the Howel could be a good conversion, it's rather simple just crude and needs to be sleeker like just moving the bolt forward so it doesn't hit you in the face when it cycles.

[@matusfekete6503]

I immediately liked the M1915 Howell conversion. This one... not so much.

[@coreyg7575]

Solid wood and disappointment

[@Mrboombastic266]

Spit Flush Every one of us after a first date that ends up with a kiss on the cheek lol

[@BrutusTheOwl]

A Book coming soon on forgotten and failed weapons.

[@samh1022]

Spit Flush my Friday night 😂😋

[@WolfPawArmoury]

Giggity

[@kennyvancleave2422]

So basically once your rifle gets dirty the soldier would than throw his rifle away. Because damn, what a mess of a weapon.

[@jameshealy4594]

"Sarge, I'm just going to put this here rifle in the lake over there to uh..... clean it."

[@victorwaddell6530]

Kenny VanCleave And it fires corrosive primed ammunition . No way to avoid cleaning it once it's fired .

[@blackirish781]

This would be a terrible weapon to be issued. It would probably be responsible for a lot of desertions.

[@Kepe]

Well to be honest, cleaning doesn't seem that difficult actually. You need to remove the screw holding the gas trap in its place (no tools required), pull off the gas trap and then you can clean everything you need to clean. And you can lock the bolt open to clean the chamber and bolt face.

[@carlkolthoff5402]

It's stunning to me to know this is a swedish invention, considering we had mandatory conscript military service for almost the entire 1900s. This means more or less every grown man in the country would've had field service experience of rifles. None of us with fond memories of blindfolded disassembly in the snow would want that complicated solution!

[@Jimtheneals]

A perfect example of just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Out of all Ian's videos I've seen I think this is the most complicated gun.

[@donweatherwax9318]

Check out his video on the SIG AK-53.

[@kylosalvesen]

"Just solid wood and disappointment" the title of my autobiography

[@johngibson2884]

It looks like one of those Frankenstein converted set guns off the Star Wars 1976 set like Solo's Mauser C-96 ....very far out look

[@aquadragon1]

When i was a kid this museum, or rather the army part of it, was right across the street (and a narrow canal) from my childhood home. I spend many a rainy afternoon there. And my so far life long history interest was born.... I distinctly remember this one. thanks for bringing up fond childhood memories Ian.

[@johncashwell1024]

It's not just complicated it appears to have been designed by that overly complicated mousetrap designer Rube Goldberg. That gas operated pinball plunger system has got to be rather unique in that it adds, at least, 1 more (useless) step in semi-auto reloading process than other systems. The gas trap piston loads the spring which is then released (just like pulling a pinball plunger to shoot the ball), which then hits another piston which hits the bolt carrier, which continues backward (thus loading the return spring and ejecting the spent cartridge) until it stops, the return spring takes over and pulls the bolt carrier forward back into battery and picks up and loads a fresh cartridge along the way. It is obvious that no country was willing to "sabotage", as Ian said, their own army by saddling them with this 'thing'. I imagine that under battlefield conditions dirt would quickly find it's way into the working parts and take it of action. Once that happens, all those small bits are going to be impossible to keep up with and not lose. This weapon was nowhere near ready to be shown to prospective buyers. It needed a lot more development time. Sure, hindsight is 20/20, as it is said, but come on, it's pretty obvious that this rifle was not ready for prime time!

[@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray]

If insanity was a rifle . . .

[@bongobrandy6297]

Gun Jesus meets Rube Goldbergenberger!

[@MrLukealbanese]

Probably Phosphor Bronze for the bolt extension. Great video, insanely complicated gun.

[@Za7a7aZ]

Welcome to the netherlands Ian...happy to see you again.

[@lucianene7741]

It may be complicated and impractical but it's pretty ingenious from the mechanical point of view. What it does is replacing the kinetic energy of a heavy bolt carrier with the potential energy of a stiff spring to cycle the action. It may not make a lot of sense to trade a little weight for a lot of complexity but let's remember that armies have stringent weight requirements for service rifles and this is probably why this conversion kit was conceived like that in the first place.

[@raoulmoes6278]

i was there last week. it's a great museum and an incredible collection.

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

The Snabb semi-auto conversions are so awesome. And very interesting. There is a lot off different bolt action rifles converted to semi-auto by Snabb. Really fascinating.

[@nstauf]

The action is, to me, quite clever and straight forward. The various interactions could definitely use some improvement. The same type of improvement that was done to many of the other military concepts presented on this program. Imagine, for example, they had adapted gas port and a long stroke gas piston in place of the forward pulling ratchet mechanism. Suddenly you've got a bolt action semi-auto. This is one of the more thought provoking designs I've seen in a while.

[@clancywoodard310]

your videos are pretty awesome you show rifles and other firearms I've never heard of

[@Tobascodagama]

This is like the apotheosis of all failed self-loading conversion projects. Sold as being cheaper than new SLRs but isn't actually that much cheaper? Check! Conversion basically involves replacing all the parts to the point that it might as well be a new SLR? Check! An order of magnitude more complicated than either the original rifle or a new SLR built from the ground up? Check!

[@44WarmocK77]

Impossible to field-strip by an ordinary Grunt in the field and under certain circumstances (heat of battle or imminent attack) even by an approved army gunsmith? Check!

[@aritakalo8011]

44WarmocK77 if I understood correct first part of field strip would be to remove the handguard band held in place by two "you use these to assemble a Swiss clock" level small screws. And that is the first part. Because to bolt carrier doesn't detach without detaching the stock, which doesn't detach without removing the top handguard. That is before getting to disassembly of the double spring gas trap rube Goldberg machine with no alignment rail to make sure the racket teeth don't just randomly disalign, say if the opp roads small holding screw loosens just a little. Yeah. Solid design.

[@ayebraine]

@@aritakalo8011 And you need two wrenches to remove the bolt carrier! One for the two nuts with a washer (!), another for the cap. Or swear profusely and strip the things with pliers I guess.

[@Kepe]

@@aritakalo8011 Why would you need to disassemble the entire rifle, though? The "gas system" consists of one tool-less screw and the gas trap itself. The spring and ratchet system doesn't touch any gasses from firing the gun, so there's really no need to get to those parts for regular maintenance. Field stripping doesn't mean disassembling the entire gun into the smallest possible components. Field stripping is disassembling the gun as far as is needed to be able to clean and maintain the stuff that needs to be cleaned and maintained regularly. The H&K G11 is a great example of this. It has an incredibly elaborate firing and loading mechanism that really looks like a Swiss clock. Field stripping the G11 is basically just removing the barrel and action from its plastic shell. The action itself was only to be touched by people at the armory.

[@kenhelmers2603]

What a mess! Actually an ingenious method of conversion. Hard to believe it was cheaper than whole new rifles! Thanks for sharing it with us :)

[@stevelewis7263]

You have to love this conversion for it's sheer insanity and perversity.

[@ag111ga]

This, actually, isn't as bad as it looks. The system could easily be simplified by getting rid of the gastrap contraption and replacing it with regular gas block and piston, the rest is very interesting and it would probably work just fine.

[@Pcm979]

To be fair to Snabb, when he was making this a lot of militaries were dead-set against drilling holes in barrels for gas ports. They thought it'd wreck the gun's service life. But you're still right; even if he was constrained by that to a gas trap system, it could've been a heck of a lot simpler.

[@vrisbrianm4720]

Even the Garand had a gas trap system at first, but it was at least using a much simpler long stroke system to operate the bolt

[@dj1NM3]

Where in the Garand M1 gas was trapped and routed off to drive a piston backwards, rather than push the whole muzzle cap forwards and require some Rubegolbergium to push the bolt back with.

[@DanielESmith-iz7lx]

What a night mare! Thanks for your vids!

[@tomalexander4327]

A video to be proud of, for sure.

[@FREQ1989]

I watched this 2 and a half years after this was posted, and i bet given that much time, this headache of a firearm still couldnt be fully taken apart lol.

[@DaveSmiffy]

This reminds me of Hellraiser. When the puzzle of the crazy Swedish rifle's assembly /disassembly is finally solved Ian will be pulled down into Hell (or IKEA same difference)

[@thewaraboo2824]

...Wow... This might be in contention with the AN-94 for the most complex gun you've featured thus far. Now you need to feature an M85 machine gun and show how the US does complexity.

[@5647mhjgt]

AN-94 is far more insane IMO. This thing at least lacks a cuckoo-clock behind the dust-cover, or whatever that thing was - i kind of blacked out from shock while watching AN-94 disassembly.

[@Hubert_Cumberdale_]

@@5647mhjgt cuckoo clock lmoa

[@ScottKenny1978]

I guess this video came out before Ian did the G11. The G11 beats the an94 in complexity.

[@theacme3]

@@ScottKenny1978 if you take away the "3 shots fired before recoil is felt" from the g11 it is a relatively simple system for caseless ammo. It just does a lot of stuff at the same time.

[@davidresetarits5616]

@@theacme3 The G11 may be easier to disassemble than an AN-94, but the "bolt" is an engineers nightmare.

[@JonJonGTA]

I am actually interested to see that 1 hour of disassembly if you recorded it Ian. Maybe in another video?

[@vchalmel]

This is one of the finest lego technic sets :D

[@alfredvonschlieffen6813]

Such a cool gun!

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

The Snabb is one of those pinterest darlings that comes up but barely gets talked about. That changes today.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Yeah I can see why nobody talks about it.

[@mgkleym]

Because nobody understands how the damn thing works?

[@Calvin_Coolage]

That certainly is a stock.

[@ArnoSchmidt70]

Whow. The museum is just 100 miles away from there I live and I never heard of it. I will visit it in spring.

[@elitearbor]

Well... I now know what I've got planned for that beat up, sporterized rifle I haven't used in years. Rebarrel, and convert. Could be a fun project!

[@JB-mw5rg]

Agreed that the museum is epic!

[@gfhjkfghj4208]

Oh, Snabb! That's one overcomplicated Lego kit.

[@nagelfar8715]

Fantasitc video ian :) i remember i e-mailed you about this a few years ago!

[@Luke-sw5gz]

Man if only you had another original Manlicher rifle beside this one! Seeing the comparison side by side would've been awesome! But great video non the less! I know this is a two year old.video too but I've been non stop binge watching your channels for days now! So if you happen to see this comment (doubtful of that) but love the content and keep it coming! I'm sure it's only a matter of time before KZbin comes after sadly ☹️ but fingers crossed that never happens! But I'm sure they already keep all the money you make from these videos (ad revenue I'd guess) bunch of dang crooks! I'll be supporting you on patron from now on!

[@pietrotacconelli8311]

Such engineer. Many parts. Much fire power.

[@SuperAWaC]

snibbity snabb

[@Yorihime]

I saw one of these things in a French gunshop along with a fully functional MARS pistol. Gonna try to ask if I can get a closer look on it. However it's a Gewehr 98 conversion which is slightly different I guess.

[@FaithforMoney]

Nightmare was an understatement. Taking Ian hours to strip this thing is probably the world record for fastest time. Still it is fascinating to see how such an odd and impractical design works.

[@MultiRandom12]

Pretty impressive machining

[@MrCarGuy]

It's a very creative solution.

[@teddyrex1963]

Pretty cool futuristic look

[@mr.boombalatty5724]

Its amazing that they thought of this

[@TheTkf012]

This is about the most interesting conversion I’ve ever seen, even if it is wildly impractical.

[@operatorspongebob4150]

Ian like good job and stuff. (Prepare for fanboyism) love you vids keep up the work my man

[@JohnSmith-dt1tw]

That thing makes the Howell look like a sensible and elegant semi-auto conversion of a bolt action rifle

[@fonkyman]

looks awesome i want one

[@spacemanmoe5622]

Thank you Dutch national museum! Thanks Ian!

[@satchel5909]

1:54 - 2:04 great camerawork for the sights.

[@kamata93]

If you are in the Netherlands still, come over to the Hague. I would love to meet you and any crew that you might have for a beer or something. *big fan intensifies*

[@WinterMadness]

Snibbety Snabb :DD

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

:DDDD

[@markgordon4368]

Thank you.

[@groundmasterc]

That furniture is super pretty.

[@aries_9130]

I'm at loss for words. Wow.

[@tutes0133]

Why is anyone ignoring the fact of what a gorgeous gun it actually is and that's not even talking about the engineering involved. Impressive and so absurdly overcomplicated I can't help but see myself in it.

[@NuffMan_]

Imagine the cartridge ejection force with that powerful spring :o

[@pedrowangler]

As a swede i read. Fast Semiauto Conversion of a Dutch Mannliche, hehe..

[@albertobonnet1773]

Impresive, as always (y)

[@asd36f]

16:26 - Ian's expression says it all :-)

[@jarink1]

"We now see why this was adopted by nobody". Truer words were never spoken!!

[@DoRC]

It's hard to imagine that train wreck being much cheaper to produce than a new rifle.

[@newdefsys]

It certainly seems to be well made

[@atropiaveteran]

If all else fails, this would make one heck of a club!

[@stremmify]

this looks exactly like Armand-Frédéric Faucon "Fusil Équilibré" and, Ian, as a francophile you must now a thing a two about that marvelous project ;-)

[@ThunderChunky101]

What a lovely stock...

[@bagniacz3264]

What a neat little conversion they got there! All they changed was: - stock - recevier - bolt assembly - trigger mechanism - added gas trap, few more springs and a operating rod - swap barrel for a barrel taken out from another gun That's actually smart, why bother converting a gun, if you can make almost completly new one, just worse?

[@GeFlixes]

...15:40 and as ever with Dutch institutions, they have a really slick badge as well.

[@boris2457]

Conversions like this are the perfect example why it´s sometime better to build a complete new system instead of upgrading old ones to the utmost.

[@nickferries2777]

This gun is a manifestation of making shit more difficult than it needs to be

[@davew472]

Field stripping this under combat conditions would have been a nightmare

[@gworfish]

"Solid wood and disappointment" Sounds like how most of my mornings start.

[@Tubajock2]

id so love a snabb mauser.... i love how needlessly complex it is!

[@Pulsatyr]

The design requires the use of one armorer to every rifleman, thus offsetting the savings of the conversion. It's almost as complex as a French machine gun.