I’ve been a little intimidated doing spring compression and shock fitting on the install but you make it look easy with the ratchet strap and compression kit. Thanks for the great video!
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Safety first!
@richardjohnson6874 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very helpful vid. On removing the rear shocks, I found it easier for the vice grips to go 7cm below the top, under the grommets/bushes.
@86curryman3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Nice touch with torque specs and tool sizes.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I try and add those as often as needed
@freedomfighter29112 жыл бұрын
Thorough as my borough! Great content bub.
@Libertarian_Neighbor4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. These videos are amazing. Keep up the good work! 👍
@SnailTrail4x44 жыл бұрын
Happy to help, that's for commenting
@White_buffalo_4r3 жыл бұрын
this is a very good tear down and install video thank you very much cause I am getting ready to ours soon
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad to help
@iddddaduncan3 жыл бұрын
End result picture with ride quality comparison of stock vs lifted would have been nice.
@jasonno3 жыл бұрын
OH MY DAAAMN man! that 2x4 is genius! I wish I knew years ago when I did my install. I'm so happy for this video since I have to replace my shocks.
@jasonno3 жыл бұрын
@snailtrail4x4 with zero threads showing. What is your spring rate for the 3” lift?
@hijinks212 жыл бұрын
I use to do that myself. Just sit on the 2x4.
@franciscocisnerosjr71012 жыл бұрын
Is this the best lift kit for a 2x4?
@pewterZ013 жыл бұрын
You can avoid the spring compressor and using a bottle jack to push axle down by simply disconnecting the track bar on the rear.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Good to know 👍
@dtrn7502 жыл бұрын
You made that look so easy. Now I feel confident switching my Icons to Kings. I don’t know why everyone was making it sound so hard to install due to KDSS.
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
It's not hard, definitely doable. Even for me a dude playing a mechanic online
@alexortlieb34347 ай бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 playing or not, you do a great job describing the steps and struggles in detail. Keep it up!
@jailbreakoverlander2 жыл бұрын
Well done man
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@00SingleSeven3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think I will install my spacers by removing UCA instead of messing with the kdss. It look like I might be able to put the spacers without actually taking off the UCA but either way I will have fun.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can add spacers with the UCAin place
@dat1dsm2 жыл бұрын
Wow. You made it look so easy. The KDSS sway bar has been scaring me but looks like you didn't even have to remove the 2 bolts from sway bar/low control arm.
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
Nope, no worries
@dat1dsm2 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 you didn't have to touch anything at all with KDSS upfront?(strap down, jack, or removing the 2 bolts on low control arm) Having the front wheels hang in air doesn't over extend or affect the KDSS? Maybe im just over thinking it lol. I've been reading a lot of back n forth on forums but then again, they're old threads
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
@@dat1dsm I've never done the two bolts on the bottom of the lower control arm, but that seams easy. But it's not bad
@dat1dsm2 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 last question i swear lol, did you find it harder doing the driver side FIRST? I hear it's easier doing that passenger side first. Just trying to be really prepared so when I receive my kings in. I ordered them about a month ago =\
@jamessanchez42083 жыл бұрын
Do you need extended brake lines for the 3 inch lift on the KDSS system Runner.
@Mortiz3505 ай бұрын
U can tell how safety is a priority with this guy 😂
@smashwindow01 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think it's easier to turn off the KDSS by closing the valves and disconnecting the sway bars. If you're installing the KDSS spacers in the back, you will have to do it anyway, and then the rear will droop out enough to avoid messing with the jack & spring compressors.
@SnailTrail4x4 Жыл бұрын
That's a good suggestion,I've done that before and honestly didnt feel like it made much of a difference. But maybe I didn't turn it enough
@gevorgnazaryan8720 Жыл бұрын
Did you add any spacers to the swaybar to accommodate for the lift?
@brianaustin13284 жыл бұрын
Too bad you didn’t actually *show* the final results...
@AndreyNabutovsky3 жыл бұрын
he always does it lol or not haha
@dat1dsm2 жыл бұрын
How much lift did you get out of those front coilovers. Noticed they don't have much or any preload on them. Thanks
@98supraman10 ай бұрын
How much lift does it give you without adjusting the preload?
@jimsonaranda2512 Жыл бұрын
is this coilovers pre set to 2inch lift out of the box?and how many turns to make it 3knch lift?
@science9993 жыл бұрын
End results please brother
@M4runner133 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the 3” left is only possible with the KINGS when having a KDSS or can you get that 3” lift with say FOX 2.5 as well?
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
You can get 3" of lift out of the Fox 2.5 setups as well
@Nightmarehc1304 жыл бұрын
did you get the stardard stock or the custom size? I need to up grade my 2019 suspension. I have drawers and freezer installed...I think I'll need the upgraded springs as well...
@SnailTrail4x44 жыл бұрын
I'd say yes, especially if you're going to add a bumper
@blazinhott1123 жыл бұрын
Just put a toytec lift in my 19’ 4runner. Install went well. Now I’m chasing a rear end clunk when going over bumps at slow speeds. Any ideas?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Is your panhard bar hitting your sway bar?
@ochirokobay41133 жыл бұрын
How many inch of your rear spring? 2.5” or 3”?
@arizonacolour8793Ай бұрын
Does King not make shocks for F150s or any Ford vehicle??? I dont see any videos w said cars
@joeburgart7503 жыл бұрын
Hi. i'm a new 4Runner owner and in looking around for info have found your videos to be very relatable and helpful for my needs. Quick question for you: what coil compressor do you use? do you recommend it? Thanks, Joe
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Here is a video I did. The short is, it's cheep and from china and I needed to fix it after I got it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3a6q2ZmmJh6htk
@Reverend17763 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to why the reservoir bracket is so different from my King OEM lift?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Just a different kit I guess
@ethanwong99503 жыл бұрын
Does the kdss end up hitting the front reservoirs when going through their range of motion?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Not that we have seen
@brenwesterland63063 жыл бұрын
One thing you missed was the torque on the rear shock top nut. Did you just guess since im assuming you couldnt fit up there. Thanks so much for sharing!
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't have a crow's foot, so I can't get the correct torque. Typically on the top of the rear shocks I exposed two to three threads and call it good
@jasonno3 жыл бұрын
what I've done and many of my buddies, we wrench the nut down and watch the rubber squish until its flush with the washer. bam! lol.
@margehernandez99024 ай бұрын
How many turns for 3” height? Thank you
@kaelyaniep42673 жыл бұрын
If im not replacing the UCA arm do I still need to remove it to get the strut off or can I just unbolt the ball joint?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
You can just unbolt the ball joint, no need to completely remove it
@ds10wtf713 жыл бұрын
Hey. You show the driver side. But, curious what you did on the passenger side front with the KDSS. Did you detach the KDSS sway bar on the pass side or just push down on it with a block to remove the coilover and re-install it?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
I did the same on both sides, didn't need to remove the KDSS at all
@ds10wtf713 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 Thanks! I've been detaching the KDSS on the pass side to take off the coilovers on that side. I didn't this last time and just used a pry bar and some wood blocks to make some space to get it back on. Not sure I"m doing it the best way, but saved some hassle. Appreciate your videos and response!
@LionRunner4 жыл бұрын
Yikes..!! Hope this video won't regret my choice of ordering Elka 2.5 remote res over Kings. I was told that the Elka would be more comfortable than kings and has both high speed and slow speed adjust ability vs only one in Kings. (I still have time to cancel my order though. Will see after this video..)
@SnailTrail4x44 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I have never heard of Elka. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on them if you get them.
@LionRunner4 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 yeah. So far no videos on KZbin for 4Runner. Definitely will share a video after its install. But its a loong wait time until the shop get them.. :(
@White_buffalo_4r3 жыл бұрын
@@LionRunner I've heard from several people say that Elka is an amazing brand
@LionRunner3 жыл бұрын
@@White_buffalo_4r after 5 month finally I got the ELKAs. Dropping my 4Runner tonight for the install. I will get it back after few days. Will definitely share the feedback.. :-)
@ClimbAClassic2 жыл бұрын
How did elka work out for you?
@barrybadgernath17033 жыл бұрын
Did y’all install a differential drop kit as well? Do you recommend it?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
We didn't at that time, but one was installed later.
@haneulhwang1943 жыл бұрын
the way you install it is way different from how most people do it? did you put the car in 4low or did u even loosen any of the kdss brackets? and the rear seems like u just took the shock out and just used like a jack to separate the springs? i really want to know ur way seems like a good better easier way mahalo from hawaii!
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
We didn't put the car in 4low or loosen any of the KDSS brackets. The Runner has been in 4low since the video and had a complete wheel alignment. As for the rear we removed the old shocks, used the bottle jack to remove the old springs, and when we installed the new springs I used coil compressors and the bottle jack.
@haneulhwang1943 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 wow thanks alot! i might try ur way i saw ur old video so im guessing u found a better way!
@dhubbs44 жыл бұрын
Can we see the after? Hard to tell from a single clip that gets quickly covered up
@SnailTrail4x44 жыл бұрын
What do you wanna see?
@dhubbs44 жыл бұрын
SnailTrail4x4 amount of lift...stance...you know...”the goods”! Lol
@P90X4Lizer3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Would you recommend install a front differential drop kit with this setup? Thanks!
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
I advise anyone going 3" or above to do a diff drop.
@P90X4Lizer3 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 thank you
@JPJamster3 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 newbie here, what is a diff drop and why is it needs for lifts 3" and above?
@warweaponx66292 жыл бұрын
@@JPJamster To remove stress off of the CV’s so they are better aligned.
@christophermika66553 жыл бұрын
is there much of a difference between doing the same lift but for a 4th gen? Thanks!
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
no difference at all really
@White_buffalo_4r3 жыл бұрын
So question do you suggest or recommend someone do the rear panhard and rear trailing arms when doing the lift in the rear as well?
@overlandperu60843 жыл бұрын
I do have it installed to correct the rear axle . I have a OME 2.5 inch lift .
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
It really depends on how high you're going to go. Over 2.5 I would change the panhard bar, 3+ I would start looking into getting trailing arms
@White_buffalo_4r3 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 going around 2 to 2.5 in the rear so sounds like I like I should be ok.
@thomaskoemel2 жыл бұрын
What keeps the bottle jack from slipping off the axle?
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
A solid placement, and pressure
@zenofthemoment Жыл бұрын
What makes Kings better than Icons?
@demobiker12 жыл бұрын
Did you do anything about the kdss? Did you experience any lean after install?
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
Nope, and maybe slightly but not very noticeable
@Steezy.gunz_2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t u want that reservoir hose on the outside not under the uca ?
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
As long as it's not getting pinched then you will be fine
@ajentink854 жыл бұрын
What was the lift of the rear springs?
@SnailTrail4x44 жыл бұрын
It was a 2.5" lift, the front was 3"
@ST-zc7tn3 жыл бұрын
Looks like your 4runner have KDSS, doesn't that limit the lift height?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Not to our experience, what limits the lift height is the UCA angles
@viewoptic3 жыл бұрын
Are these the OEM replacement shocks? or custom built?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Custom, they are taller
@devildog11683 жыл бұрын
Will this kit fit a 21’ 4runner sr5 premium ??. This video is the most recent putting on a lift kit.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it should!
@devildog11683 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 okay because I just got one two weeks ago. And I have yet to see 21’ sr5 premium lifted where I am from
@BP-uj9uq2 жыл бұрын
You need a set of ratchet wrenches!
@joelramos62543 жыл бұрын
Did the toytech spacer come with the rear king suspension?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
I don't recall a spacer being installed on the rear of this project. If there was one it was probably part of the overall kit from the business
@00SingleSeven3 жыл бұрын
Is alignment necessary? What if I don't remove the uca to install only the spacers?
@jaredsmith61093 жыл бұрын
Yeah because whenever you raise a vehicle your wheels get positive camber at the very least. Negative camber if you lower it. It’s always recommended to get an alignment done everytime you do any sort of suspension modification/replacement.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Yes, Jared is correct
@00SingleSeven3 жыл бұрын
👍🍻
@FrenchHawk8783 жыл бұрын
This is an install with a 4runner that has the kdss. How does this differ if you don't have kdss?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
The major difference between KDSS and Non is the sway bars. You will have more flex without KDSS
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
King has KDSS specific part numbers with longer reservoir hoses
@michaelrutledge48204 жыл бұрын
I understand that it’s more of an instructional video, but I would like to see a better showcasing of the end result.
@SnailTrail4x44 жыл бұрын
What would you like to see?
@michaelrutledge48204 жыл бұрын
SnailTrail4x4 a before and after side shot and maybe some measurements. Don’t get me wrong, I liked the video.
@SnailTrail4x44 жыл бұрын
@@michaelrutledge4820 -- No, no, I appreciate your feedback and help. I was thinking after you said this that I could have a video before and after of it driving over bumps
@bigcountry94573 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 that would be awesome and much appreciated SnailTrail4x4!
@jeffreymcdonald82673 жыл бұрын
King vs OME, who wins and why ? Thanks.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
It really depends on what you want. If you want a go fast race set up shock, I'd get kings. If your looking for something that is more daily friendly, OME
@jeffreymcdonald82673 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 Thats what I figured. Thanks bud
@skiptonmcphee16693 жыл бұрын
How much does this system cost???
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Link in the description
@atroche19782 жыл бұрын
I always torque everything down to TAF! 😂
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
What's TAF?
@dad35623 жыл бұрын
So did you set it to 3 inches or does it provide 3 inches?
So you never had to do anything with the KDSS sway bar?
@misterxkato3 жыл бұрын
or remove the skid plate?
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
Nope leave them both
@warweaponx66292 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 Is this true for non-kdss 4Runners as well? No sway bar relocation needed with this kit?
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
@@warweaponx6629 -- we didn't, but that's not saying it's the best... It might be a bit firm, I relocated the sway bar on my Bilstein kit
@warweaponx66292 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 Thanks for the response! Is it normal to add spacers on the radiator support brackets after the sway bar relocate? Shop that did my icon install did this.
@jeffreymcdonald82673 жыл бұрын
Nothing to address the notorious driver side lean of the 4runner ??
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
I think King presets the driver side different than passenger side to account for the lean. If the vehicle has KDSS, then it automatically addresses the lean
@jeffreymcdonald82672 жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus No offense sir, but "I think" is no better than "I assume". And we all know how that story usually ends. Facts rule.
@ciredeezle2 жыл бұрын
I know it’s dumb but i wish they came in other options other than blue lol
@SnailTrail4x42 жыл бұрын
They do, I know they have a black option
@schaptai19633 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍🚘
@CrazyGreek803 жыл бұрын
Good review besides the music.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
What music would you like?
@CrazyGreek803 жыл бұрын
@@SnailTrail4x4 none. But its your vid.
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyGreek80 -- Thanks for you're honesty. When I add music people complain, and when there isn't any music people complain. There is no winning
@jvogler_art47082 жыл бұрын
Can’t even see the end result cause of those icons.
@freedomfighter29112 жыл бұрын
What could the average Joe paying his local mechanic, expect to pay for this complete install? Thanks
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
The shocks themselves run about $2800 for front and rear. Install is about 5hrs give or take, about $600-800 for labor depending on where you live
@ThePolaris23 жыл бұрын
Torque specs dont matter on suspension. Over my 10 years of a suspension tech you have no idea how much bad shit ive seen happen because it was ^torqued to spec^
@SnailTrail4x43 жыл бұрын
There is one thing to just hammer the parts on and its another to do it correctly. The majority of people watching my videos are not trained mechanics and they need to know how tight is tight.
@lostagain29922 жыл бұрын
Thumbs down for no before/after pics. For that matter any pics👎
@cjstew755 ай бұрын
I hate it when mechanics call coil over shocks struts. There’s a difference. I’m at Canix should know the difference. Sounds like a backyard mechanic.
@armondhammer9 Жыл бұрын
Dude i was cringing when you were sticking your fingers in the spring with it compressed... yikes. baaaad idea..
@dunnoyolo22387 ай бұрын
So kit was $1805 with all options you have or what are the prices ?
@dunnoyolo22387 ай бұрын
Lift kits on these Toyota's are easy unless they are super rusty.