Snake's Revenge Is One of The Strangest Sequels I've Ever Seen...

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@Gatherway Жыл бұрын

The story goes that, Kojima hadn't even been considering a sequel to Metal Gear until one day he bumped into a member of the Snake's Revenge team on the train and learned of its development. It was said member's urging that Kojima should make a true sequel himself that prompted him to begin working on Metal Gear 2. For a long time, Snake's Revenge has had a bad rap for being far removed from the core principles and storyline of Metal Gear as a whole, but you can at least say that without it the rest of the series may have never even existed to begin with. 😅

@youwayo 4 ай бұрын

That almost sounds like a butterfly effect. Imagine if he didn’t meet the developer on the train.

@gertytk5528 Жыл бұрын

The reason why punching is an option, is that enemies sometimes drop ammo or rations. They never do when killed with the knife.

@Mario_N64 Жыл бұрын

And rations are scarce in the game.

@RetroMitch 10 ай бұрын

I just made that comment as well and wasn't 100% positive, but that's why I always punched.

@MeatSnax 5 ай бұрын

That's such a specific and Kojima-esque inclusion, I wonder if he'd mentioned that during production of the first game to someone who worked on this.

@rickmartinez3268 4 ай бұрын

@@gertytk5528 at least they tired

@axsprime Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Kojima does like Snake's Revenge and did use some of it as inspiration for some of the future releases.

@orzen_the_orzo933 7 ай бұрын

@@axsprime what were some of the inspirations? I can only think of the jungle settings but idk what what

@lex_4242 6 ай бұрын

@@orzen_the_orzo933 the jungle setting existed in the original metal gear storywise as well as mg2 I can’t think of any real “inspirations” either The box gun don’t count as it was more of a coincidence since peace walker was targeted to a co-op playstyle The codec in SR being large screen with prewritten selectable codec frequencies likely came from some parts of snatcher and the nes version which itself was developed when snatcher was developed the big supercomputer in the nes version always gave me mk2 vibes and gillians hideout with his pc not to mention the snatchers itself being “unmanned”

@lex_4242 6 ай бұрын

The only positive thing I can say is that SR gave us mg2 early and the misconception that he didn’t want to make a follow up and abandoned it is wrong he wanted to make a sequel to MG but not that early as he wanted to explore other things

@orzen_the_orzo933 6 ай бұрын

@@lex_4242 Where did he say that he wanted to make an MG sequel but not that early? I didn't know about that but I guess it makes sense, I just want a source, something I can look up. I thought that he just didn't really think about a sequel but when he found out that they were making one for NES he wanted to make his own.

@lex_4242 6 ай бұрын

@@orzen_the_orzo933 he did not say it as far as I know but there’s no way he didn’t have plans for a metal gear sequel especially when snatcher had tons of metal gear references like the mk.2 or the universe being the same from metal gear I just saw a lot of people (predominantly from people trying to discredit kojima) saying “He didn’t want to make a follow up he tried to abandon the series after the first one and was pressured to make one after a junior staff from konami convinced him to make one” all bull He never “abandoned” metal gear he was just busy exploring in other things he found interesting

@TrazynTheKleptomanichad Жыл бұрын

as much as Metalgear Rex and Ray and...the one I can't spell out, are iconic mechs even outside their franchise fandom. I kinda miss the older Metal Gear designs. they remind me of something not too out of place of something you would find in a Metal Slug game. wish we got modern renditions of the older Metal Gears one day

@kbell9568 Жыл бұрын

I mean does the Shagohod count?

@TrazynTheKleptomanichad Жыл бұрын

@@kbell9568 kinda yeah. it has sequel-prequel shenanigans coming into play. but I do like that Shagohod is just a giant noobtube on threads tho. very familiar to that feeling these old Metal Gear designs give me

@IndyMiraaga Жыл бұрын

Sahelanthropus? Arsenal Gear? Excelsius?

@aaronengland5622 11 ай бұрын

YES, what trazyn said. for the love of all things holy just remake the originals and close the circle. The rest are fine.

@maxx8541 4 ай бұрын

@@TrazynTheKleptomanichad yeah i think remakes of old metal gears would be great, especially since they're pretty lore important. they don't need to necessarily be very long games but it sucks playing peace walker and mgs5 and hearing about big boss building outer heaven and not having that pay off in a way that is as easily digestible and fleshed out as the solid series

@Mario_N64 Жыл бұрын

Also, the manual also explains the X-ray visor's purpose.

@chickenheelnakano Жыл бұрын

Punching enemies can lead to weapon/item drops. Pretty sure the knife doesn't drop items.

@notcole Жыл бұрын

Well that would be a pretty good reason, guess that probably would've made the game a lot easier too 😅

@Upāsaka_11 Жыл бұрын

I always thought the only way to farm rations and ammo from enemies was by using the punch. The knife was faster and safer but yielded no items.

@Mario_N64 Жыл бұрын

The game manual does tell you about punching enemies to get rations and ammo.

@juststatedtheobvious9633 11 ай бұрын

Rainier Wolfcastle? Only in 1990 (and a few years surrounding) does throwing this design into the brightest orange possible scream "covert military ops".

@notcole 11 ай бұрын

Dammit, now I'm pissed I didn't think of that joke 😂

@elieharriett9078 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. I’ve never seen a review of Snake’s Revenge before. People usually just dismiss it. This is the first oppportunity I’ve had to see it played. May have to look into giving it a shot.

@thedrunkmonkshow Жыл бұрын

When you stab enemies with the knife they simply die, but if you take them out barehanded they sometimes drop ammo or rations after the melee which helps you survive until you can find the next stock room. Also when you collect items in stock rooms if you walk out then immediately come back in you will find more of the same item an infinite amount of times. It's an excellent way to ensure you're maxed out on whatever it is you need especially the important critical ones like ammo and rations. Those guards that refuse to speak in certain rooms, if you interrogate them with the Truth Serum equipped they will not only give vital information but it also contributes to your experience similar to rescuing hostages which helps you rank up faster. This game hits different when you know how to play. 😎

@Neck41 9 ай бұрын

Man looking at this game's sprites, it looked like a few prisoners are on the run and trying to escape their captors.

@apukami3643 Жыл бұрын

Always felt like a cross between contra and metal gear for me. But best part is that next is MG2 and that game Slaps

@Mario_N64 Жыл бұрын

There's no run-and-gun in it. Pure stealth.

@CeleryX5 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Surprising you didn't mention the NES port of the original Metal Gear, as Snake's Revenge is a direct sequel to that (and hence where some of the more unpolished parts come from).

@notcole Жыл бұрын

NES Metal Gear is in a weird spot. It changes just enough to feel like I should cover it, but not really enough to justify making a video for it 😅

@CeleryX5 11 ай бұрын

@@notcole Fair enough. NES Metal Gear is definitely an odd case. 😆

@CRITTERBUSTERS 9 ай бұрын

An underrated game, you have to compare it to the port of Metal Gear on the NES to really appreciate it. But even so Snakes Revenge is actually not that bad of a game, nor is it that hard. Once you figure out how the bosses can be beaten they’re quite easy. Also the instruction manual gave you plenty of information on all the items and how to use them. There are some issues with it, like the first stage in the jungle where you have to dodge the spotlights. The Key card swapping, disappearing floors and the side scrolling levels were also a pain in the neck. Other than that though, I liked the variety of locations, weapons and items. The music was great, graphically it looked polished, snake controlled well enough and the story I actually enjoyed. The final level really got my heart pumping and that end music was also very effective. For NES standards it’s an 8/10 for me

@agustindanielgimenez9483 Жыл бұрын

In the first game you have the contact list too, at least in the ps2, you have tu push up or down (i dont renember). Nice video, i have never played the nes games.

@LorenHelgeson 23 күн бұрын

Yes, YES IT IS!!! If you need any reason to understand the absolute hate and frustration I have personally experienced with this Game, let me sum it up in three points... 1. The absolutely unforging difficulty of that tank battle on the bridge. If you haven't seen it, try watching a playthrough of that fight alone, and beating it without feeling absolute frustration trying to beat the tank legitimately. 2. The final boss is so unnecessarily difficult. Nothing like the tank battle, but just a pure test of timing and frustration, under a strict time limit, and the music of choice is just the intro for the game. 3. Considering that beating this game was the last thing I remember doing before passing out - I am NOT joking - due to a seizure from septic shock, brought on by a random cockroach bite. I wish I was joking. This is absolutely the one video game I hate with such an intensity that if I felt it made any diffiherence in the end, I would spend money to buy every last physical copy that still exists, and to absolutely destroy them in any way possible.

@Mario_N64 Жыл бұрын

Its a really good game. Its faithful to the Metal Gear concept. Lots of cool weapons and items. Very challenging.

@twinswords79dualblade84 9 ай бұрын

It was too hard for me, I used a Password to get to the final building with all of the items needed just to beat the game. No regrets 🙃

@lancelindqvist8848 5 ай бұрын

Loved this game as a kid.amazing soundtrack!

@jonathanplooij3666 3 ай бұрын

i remember playing this game in the Metal Gear Solid Collection for ps3

@KBXband 5 ай бұрын

Punching is still an option because punching an enemy can result in an item drop. But In sure 3000 other comments say the same

@QMMarc Жыл бұрын

I always kinda enjoyed this one honestly, like, yeah it's a spin-off, but I feel we, in the future, love writing things off as that or going off about it being non-canon, but this is a sequel to the NES version of MG, and like, with that context, with how kinda shitty that port was, this is GREAT sequel and it improves in every single way AND has a killer soundtrack to boot. This and Portable Ops suffer from what I call ''fandom write offs'' where they write it off as bad due to not being canon when as a video game they're still pretty good. Oh and the reason punches can be sorta still useful is that with the knife enemies don't drop items? Or they're a lot less likely? So punching can be an ok way to farm, maybe? I read that somewhere once, but like, I just used the knife as well, why would i need to farm if I'm taking way less risks thus not taking a lot of damage or wasting resources? But i guess if you royally fuck up and had to farm, that's what the punch is for?

@meltyheart8 Жыл бұрын

why do you have texture filtering on?

@notcole Жыл бұрын

honestly, it was on by default in Nestopia (which I used to get a higher resolution), and I didn't notice 😅

@legomania2427 Жыл бұрын

What’s with the filter?

@richardfox1386 Ай бұрын

Umm... if you use your hands instead of the knife, it will take 3 hits instead of 1 with the knife to subdue a guard, but with your hands you get a chance for a drop.

@astrea555 Жыл бұрын

You reviewing this one makes me hope you won't skip Revengeance or Acid.. or Zone Of the Enders (lol)

@notcole Жыл бұрын

one of those still might be a while... 😅

@RetroMitch 10 ай бұрын

Doesn't punching the enemy allow them to drop ammo and rations? Not sure if the knife does that. I would punch my way through because I never saw an item drop while using a knife. I could be wrong.