Look at the efficient graph. The power draw at peak is indeed monster, but it's only for benchmarks.
@JimmyLiu-v8c2 ай бұрын
@@junseoshin Most Chinese media outlets only test products after receiving payments from manufacturers. Recently, VIVO paid a significant amount for its new phone, causing a buying frenzy. However, once people got their hands on it, issues kept arising, and the company has refused to respond officially.
@JimmyLiu-v8c2 ай бұрын
@@junseoshin Most Chinese media outlets only test products after receiving payments from manufacturers. Recently, VIVO paid a significant amount for its new phone, causing a buying frenzy. However, once people got their hands on it, issues kept arising, and the company has refused to respond officially.
@n872158eric2 ай бұрын
等白老鼠用了才知道吧,當初測了一堆都沒問題,實機就是災難😂
@godfrey33992 ай бұрын
此龍必火
@SyuAsyou2 ай бұрын
太棒了!選擇一下子變很多!
@ntgeralt2 ай бұрын
0:35 苹果都不敢用Elite精英这个词。另外Elite精英的房间那么乱的嘛
@user-ck8kl8tg3s2 ай бұрын
感谢博主❤
@quantumdot73932 ай бұрын
Apple doesn't have alien technology. Their big core measures 3 mm2 in size while qualcomm big core is only 2.1 mm2. The fact that such a small core is getting close is impressive.
@Deeptesh972 ай бұрын
Most people don't understand this. Apple is simply throwing more money at the problem. Providing comparable performance at much smaller die size is more impressive.
@SethRoganSeth2 ай бұрын
He said superior the don't take translation at face value
@tractormax2 ай бұрын
No wonder Snapdragon still cannot win. Considering what they have achieved using the small die size, Android has catch up at last. The real world power consumption is pretty close. However Apple still win on benchmark.
@quantumdot73932 ай бұрын
@@Deeptesh97 guys you misunderstood. The die size isn't smaller. It is actually bigger because the elite has a modem built in. But the CPU area size is the same as apple . What Qualcomm is doing is optimize for multi core performance. They are using smaller big cores to fit 6 small cores instead of 4 in the same space. That is why they win multicore performance and efficiency.
@-Blue-_Ай бұрын
@@tractormax how Apple is better in a benchmark, this video proves otherwise
@fukaraca2 ай бұрын
Only thing left is the battery drain. We know how powerful the new chipset is but don't know how retailers use it in terms of power management.
@jg14gerhard_bar2 ай бұрын
Need these OEM to have adjustable power profiles. like how samsung has the "light performance profile", but make so that the user can scale between a 10 to 40% limit on performance to fully realize the efficiency. I'd 100% use a OP13 at 8 gen 2 levels of performance
@fukaraca2 ай бұрын
@@jg14gerhard_bar they should indeed. I rarely need laptop degree cpu on my phone. I d like to optimize things accordingly.
@Bruuhhhhhh2 ай бұрын
Considering the efficency under load, it should be an improvement for sure.. Unless they decide to make a sloppy OS that doesn't make use of the processor correctly.
@Nemesis_6782 ай бұрын
@@jg14gerhard_barit will perform at 8 gen 2 level of performance but at lower power consumption lol. You don't need settings for that although there is a low performance mode on all devices. It's using 6 watt to get to 8 gen3's max power, 8gen2 would be even lower.
@roboticvenom193510 күн бұрын
@@Nemesis_678 yes you do? samsung's light mode is not the same as other companies terrible "battery saver on" modes if that's what you're implying.
What about Geekbench 6.3? Apple and Mediatek can use SME instructions, while the 8 Elite can't. I wonder if Apple and Mediathek would have a lead in performance and efficiency then?
@WuJiZhang-wc9mc2 ай бұрын
If Mediatek go with 4x X925 (instead of 1x X925 + 3 X4), then it would be more interesting fight of 8 Elite vs D-9400.
@Smzxe2 ай бұрын
Still both 8 elite or 9400 are equally matched in terms of CPU or GPU performance and efficiency barely any difference If they went with 4x x925 cores it will consume a lot of power that core is so much powerful doesn't need Still 3x X4 cores are much stronger along with 4x 2.4 GHz A720 cores those smaller cores which can outperform processors like Snapdragon 870 This is absolutely crazy level of performance 3x X4 cores might be stronger than 6x oryon cores at 3.5 GHz Well we will see soon in November when they do the tests one by one Both are extremely powerful chips
@WuJiZhang-wc9mc2 ай бұрын
@@Smzxe "If they went with 4x x925 cores it will consume" No it doesn't. 1. Mediatek could control it with "max speed" on that particular core 2. the x925 is more energy efficient. about 30% more efficient.
@Smzxe2 ай бұрын
@@WuJiZhang-wc9mc these chips never run on peek power And not how it works mediatek knows better than you when they were making the chip they would have used 4x X925 cores but they didn't there would have been a reason otherwise they would have used 4x X925 cores and 4x X4 cores And completely ignore the 4x A720 cores But they didn't do that there would have been a reason about that On peek power it's gonna consume 4x more power than 3x X4 cores And you think 3x X4 cores are weaker??? They are absolutely not They are still very strong 30% efficiency is at same task At peek power it will consume 4x more power matters on how much the performance required
@WuJiZhang-wc9mc2 ай бұрын
@@Smzxe It seems to me that you don't really understand chip making 😂 Mediatek choose X4 over X925 is because: 1. They believe the jump from 2 million+ antutu to 3 million+ already a big jump 2. It would be easier for them to produce and optimize as it's only changing the ultra core. So, they can have the product faster.
@wanhl24402 ай бұрын
the die size is not enough to fit 4 x925. It is possible to run x925 on lower clock to match x4 performance on lower power, but the area is too large. d9500 on N3X may have enough density to fit all 4 x925 like cpu core.
@chris27gea582 ай бұрын
Does SPEC 2017 run natively on Android?
@captainwu2 ай бұрын
其實現在效能都大致夠用了,看了只想避免踩雷😂 像是888之類的....
@DENNIS961262 ай бұрын
我現在買都會看製造商是哪家 架構再好也頂不住製程不行😂
@martyfox-ru8dd2 ай бұрын
@@DENNIS96126 重點是今年不管是IOS/高通/聯發科全都是台積電代工...
@captainwu2 ай бұрын
@@DENNIS96126 你是說三星嗎😂
@Wanted543212 ай бұрын
性能是絕對過剩,就是看各家廠商散熱怎麼樣了
@MononoSen2 ай бұрын
性能絕對不會過剩 每次都要講一次
@Nemesis_678Ай бұрын
9:19 Can someone tell me on which platform this video is available?
@Sky-zf2jzАй бұрын
bilibili
@IREXICАй бұрын
@@Sky-zf2jz 他以為那是動畫 你應該跟他說那是什麼遊戲才對
@Mahmoud-pv6roАй бұрын
Chinese tech reviewers are the best!
@Xhfnsbdjfbsjf2 ай бұрын
看來ROG手機今年終於可以買了~..
@n0.6u2 ай бұрын
你今年要不不買rog了?反正也不熱了
@MononoSen2 ай бұрын
ROG8就沒料了 9也是差不多設計
@傅歌2 ай бұрын
買紅魔吧?
@台灣Taiwan2 ай бұрын
我也再考慮該換ROG還是紅魔😂
@luiscardona74022 ай бұрын
They can start now leaving the ios only pf port games, the new generation of android chips are out of this world with power consumption, heat and power delivery, a new era of gaming has begun.
@BostanMaximАй бұрын
Can you test exynos 2400e? It performs like a snapdragon 8 gen 2 even, even exynos 2400 is far ahead , just because primary core is downclocked 100 mhz? it doesn't make any sense
@wangkar90432 ай бұрын
看完決定先來把發哥的股票給賣了😂
@賴管維2 ай бұрын
魯迅表示:不,我沒說過
@wcrystal33202 ай бұрын
蘋果再不好好搞散熱就真的沒得打了,這次16pm對比15pm是改善了些,但熱點還是很集中
@batuhanguvenc66332 ай бұрын
İ wish they use Half the area(or none) for aı crap, then they can fit 16 cu gpu with lower clocks so efficency curve will better
@Nemesis_6782 ай бұрын
Dang it I can't wait for english caption anymore. Aaahh i am watching it rn
@leavel-h9q2 ай бұрын
你可以尝试视频右下角设置里的自动翻译
@techlover6662 ай бұрын
這次在YT發了又收回去,是不是解禁時間不一樣?
@lamhkak472 ай бұрын
那什麼時候手機SOC上筆記本?
@Ray-z6r9x2 ай бұрын
已經有了 xelite就是
@jonathanchentw2 ай бұрын
早就有了,但建議你還是用 lunar lake,ARM 真的不適合用在電腦
@蔡明軒-d8i2 ай бұрын
以Snapdragon 8 Elite為設計基底的Snapdragon X Elite/Plus已經是在Windows On ARM筆電上登場過了(發表時間在2024年6月),就不知道還會不會有X Elite/Plus 第二代用在筆電上的晶片就是了。 至於ARM公版架構(X925、X725等系列),預計是由聯發科(主CPU、NPU和其他運算部件)和NVIDIA(主GPU和圖形單元等)合作推出Windows On ARM筆電晶片,現已完成Tape Out,預計2025年第四季發表與機型上市。
@jcfawerd2 ай бұрын
835 / 850 / 8cx ..... 早就有了
@tsengjason45302 ай бұрын
王者高通!
@brianlei10272 ай бұрын
請問, NPU 那家強
@elicoptere7582Ай бұрын
The fact that the op13 which is a non gaming focused device can run a game at stable 120 fps with lower power consumption than a gaming focused device can run the same game at 60 fps is crazy, the gap between the 8 elite and the 8 gen 3 is insane...
@harshmehta3292 ай бұрын
insaneeeeeee android the goat is back
@祐-x6g2 ай бұрын
不是很懂爲何單核測spec2017多核測geekbench 能效
@AIpowder2 ай бұрын
配上个lcd屏就完美了😅
@JOJOChen10062 ай бұрын
今明年換手機有料
@vickie_g2 ай бұрын
ARM cancelling Qualcomm's ISA license because they want qualcomm to use ARMs cores to extract more money out of qualcomm really put a downer on this whole thing. Great job Qualcomm tho.
@gillest94322 ай бұрын
Licence was between Nuvia and Arm to build soc for servers...as Qualcomm uses this licence to build terminals, Arm's complain isn't totaly absurd...object changed, contract should be renegociated. Qualcomm did far worst with CDMA/LTE licence.
@vickie_g2 ай бұрын
@@gillest9432 ARM doesn't want to renegotiate tho. They want to stop licensing out their ISA entirely and want vendors to only use their cores so that ARM can charge more per chip.
@-Blue-_Ай бұрын
@@gillest9432 Qualcomm said that their new Orion v2 is completely new architecture and not based on Nuvia so ARM is wrong here
So basically I won't regret buying a phone with either dimensity 9400 or sd 8 elite. would be a nice upgrade from my current dimensity 1000+
@tractormax2 ай бұрын
Yay English subtitles. 9:01 if only iPhone use vapor chamber like android, then for sure they can become the leader
@-Blue-_Ай бұрын
no they cannot, you apple isheeps only know excuses
@tractormaxАй бұрын
@@-Blue-_ Come on. You can see in the camera how heat spot is present in iphone but heat in android is more spread out.
@-Blue-_Ай бұрын
@@tractormax just admit it heat management of 8 elite was better numbers don't lies remember that
@渭水以北2 ай бұрын
一加的外观设计越来越丑了
@swatttrcf30412 ай бұрын
Maybe the increase in battery temperature of iphone 16 vs android is due to resolution? Resolutions always put a lot of load on the cpu after all. 😅
@-Blue-_Ай бұрын
Again age old excuses from a isheep admit it now that snapdragon is now far better than crapple A18 pro in GPU just go and see the realme 7 pro video you will get the answer how crazy powerful is 8 elite GPU compared to crapple A18 pro
@swatttrcf3041Ай бұрын
@@-Blue-_ lemme clear some stuff for you:- 1. Im not saying 8 elite is weak 2. I own both s24u and iphone 16 plus 3. If you have true "knowledge" about ANY phone then u will know ALL mobile games use most of cpu not gpu 4. If cpu heats up then there is no reason of gpu to be 1000000% efficient bcz it will get heat from cpu and throttle like hell. 5. Higher resolution= higher quality= higher power consumption= higher temps.
@-Blue-_Ай бұрын
@@swatttrcf3041 now let me clear some stuff for you 1) go and see the geekerwan video 2) most of the games work on GPU in phones where you get this information that they are 100% work on CPU most of the rendering is happening on GPU this is what GPU do kiddo 😂😂😂 3) now snapdragon 8 elite is more powerful than A18 pro 4) improve your basic knowledge on CPU, GPU, NPU, APU 🤡🤡