macOS Big Sur’s Big Secret

The visual changes to macOS Big Sur are actually the small part. Snazzy Labs explains why the Mac will soon gain a touchscreen.
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Apple announced macOS 11 Big Sur to much surprise this last week at WWDC. Along with the transition to ARM came a bevy of visual changes (we won’t call them upgrades, per se) and the announcement that Apple Silicon Macs would be able to run iOS apps without modification. Not only that, but that Apple would be placing all iPad and iPhone apps available to download in the Apple Silicon Mac App Store by default unless the developer specifically states that they don’t want it listed. A bunch of multi-touch apps and games require touch input, however, and we’re as sure as ever that touchscreen Macs are on the horizon despite Apple’s insistence that they’re not coming soon. We talk about visual indications we’ve found hidden in macOS Big Sur that help argue why macOS Big Sur hidden secrets hint at a touch-capable future. #macOS #BigSur #SnazzyLabs

[@leogrievous]

You missed an opportunity to title this video "macOS's big surcret"

[@jaykrishnak3268]

Take my like and have a nice day.

[@polomrtvola]

竜司 That’s better

[@JoeyTeckno]

@竜司 nailed it! 🤣

[@andrive]

Oh no

[@busimo]

He can rename if he wanted to.

[@teepz04]

Watching this is like watching a homicide detective story Edit: Thanks for the heart Quinn

[@RosenIvanovPetkov]

I'd say it's better.

[@karellen00]

Let's hope it wasn't mac os who was killed...

[@EpicBr0]

I was thinking the same thing🤣

[@asandax6]

Are you merging MacOS and IOS "NO" proceeds to merge MacOS and IOS even switch from intel to ARM

[@DuaneMoody990]

They said that at the last WWDC before iPadOS was announced, so they wouldn't have to answer "Are you merging MacOS and iPadOS?"

[@kontoname]

@@DuaneMoody990 I hope you are just so bad at trolling? It's iOS on iPads / iPods as well...

[@DuaneMoody990]

@@kontoname iPadOS is Apple making changes to the implementation of iOS on iPads: a genuine filesystem, support for wireless mice, etc.

[@susanpratt3290]

Then again, things change in two years.

[@superaviation001]

lol

[@Ben.N]

This is like running the old iPhone apps on iPad, where they would have to be scaled with that weird 2x button, but worse.

[@franklinjoe52]

Looks like the new MacBooks will let you use your ARMs. Get it? Anyone?

[@aSquaredRush]

Lol

[@BMXaster]

Leave... now!

[@vivekkaushik9508]

Yeah we get it. Here's your like.

[@Bucking_Fastard]

Symbiosis of your arms and their ARMs.

[@amritanshsharma9681]

Lol 😂

[@WesPerry]

As soon as I saw that updated UI I said “ohhhh this looks touchable!”

[@auroraflash]

Fake news.

[@felixvehent3336]

Me too

[@calebwaddell6948]

It almost made me cringe when I saw people using the cursor in the new Mac OS, and I dont even use a single apple product.

[@DanC8111_]

They might possibly made a touch screen MacBook

[@camberwellcarrot420]

I thought he was going to say, "We love the Mac, because it's expensive."

[@prinzvalium242]

He was going to say that, he stopped himself in time tho

[@Noodles0upp]

EXACTLY.

[@pdfbro5118]

It is because it is secure and powerful

[@pdfbro5118]

Although I use 2 iPads and one Mac for animation

[@ziited5679]

Expens- *ehm* explicit

[@StuartLynne]

I discovered this years ago with touch-screen Chromebooks. Sometimes you would use the trackpad (or mouse). Sometimes you would touch the screen. Hands and arms seemed to make the choice without thinking about it. Very enjoyable experience.

[@ramennbowls]

1:25 "We love the mac, because its expen- we love macos".. What was that Craig Federighi, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering department?

[@IndySidhu88]

explicit replaced expensive lol

[@tgdxdrakoon7019]

hahahhaha he wanted to tell the truth so badly. omg, thanks for sharing!

[@louiefriesen]

"We love the Mac, because it it expensive, so we get to make a whole whack ton of money!" -What Craig was thinking

[@ars7374]

Lmao

[@brunoglopes]

Lmaooo

[@JoshUnwin]

“Run all iOS apps directly on macOS, no work required.” Meanwhile, Instagram on iPad is just a little phone app within a black void around 70% of the screen.

[@superNova5837]

Oh god that looks so bad thinking about

[@tij9190]

Josh Unwin ikr but thats bcuz of Instagram not Apple

[@JoshUnwin]

@@tij9190 mostly yeah but Android will automatically scale apps to make use of the screen size even if the dev hasn't optimised it so it is possible for Apple to do better.

[@tij9190]

Josh Unwin true

[@harshitarora693]

@@JoshUnwin android has a huge advantage in such ways but it makes the app buggy at times cause we have to optimise it . Also don't forget whatsapp 🤣🤣.

[@MayankBadhan]

I would laugh if Schiller blocks Quinn after this video 😂

[@talldarkshark8012]

This is one of the few KZbin videos which has been visually very appealing. The subtle blue background is stunning, your T-shirt conpliments the whole vibe. Awesome work, brother.

[@snazzy]

Thanks, dude!

[@violet-trash]

Oh boy, I can't wait for giant browser UIs that take up half the screen so that I can get the _full grandma experience._ 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@MrLeonOfficial]

ゴミクズ人Violet We’ve been getting the full Grandma Experience on mobile for years. :-(

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

That does seem annoying. Firefox has an adaptable UI that enlarges elements when in tablet mode. I think Apple should look into that.

[@shariful3844]

Windows is better than mac os and ios is better than android in tablet/pad department and ios and android similar in phone department

[@hira6481]

@@shariful3844 that's largely subjective, I was using windows all my life until 2-3 years ago when i got my macbook and i never realised how much i dislike using windows before I got the feel of macos. People like u need to stop trying to find an answer to which os is better cause at the end of the day it comes down to what each of us wants in an os.

[@bluephreakr]

@@hira6481 Until a few years back I wasn't primarily on an open-source system. Now here I am using Manjaro because I wanted a braindead-simple Arch-based system with my desktop of choice, which through the power of -friendship- community they provide. Tired of Microsoft selling me by the parcel and too poor for Apple, I do the next-best thing and dual-boot an OS of choice alongside Windows when I need it.

[@mediocreatbest9466]

The second I saw them show the control center I was like “sooooo it’s just a touch control scheme now?”

[@jaywye]

And the increased padding between icons and menu items as well. So damn obvious that it's an interface optimized for touch.

[@SteveBoyer10]

Yep immediately thought “ah okay touch screens coming to Mac”

[@_MintArcade]

Courage, my friend, courage

[@musicalhistory4392]

Yeah it was obvious, also the fact that everything is shaped like a button now.

[@mmdday]

i had teh same feeling

[@yt.rogue_one]

“Big Sewer”. 😂

[@thescreemregular5168]

𝗂 𝖼𝖺𝗅𝗅 𝗂𝗍 𝖻𝗂𝗀 𝗌𝗅𝗎𝗋

[@tec738cafdikfac2]

You missed an opportunity to title this video "macOS's big surcret"

[@pranavtumminkatti9373]

"like windows 10, but not crap", lol nice one there😂

[@kindanyume]

W10 is trying to be as bad as crapintosh is ie: They fuck over your customers every possible way and remove control from them as much as possible Its also funny that this comes along as a new upgrade of Winbloze meanwhile such isn't even an OS.. it's a service and a very very bad one at that. Also note crapintosh would be fucked so royally it wouldn't be funny if all of the creators of the underlying *nix code prohibited it from being used by crapintosh (much of that code is in their arm based code as well) (Now edited on a real keyboard instead of the nightmare pos wifi mini kbd I was stuck using at the time of the original post. UGH I swear when the replacement arrives that pos is going to the range to make a nice target for some 9mm goodness.)

[@ahmederadwan]

I understood that he meant more of (not crap mac iOS), like now the nonsense merging between macOS and iPadOS. A detachable iPad that is not crap. Windows is actually doing fantastic converting between laptop and a tablet ahead of time.

[@rossgoosen7269]

@@kindanyume ...what?

[@kindanyume]

what didnt u understad? that w10 is trying tp f over the dolts that use it as much if not worse than crapintoshs victims? or that if all of the contribs that are used for free in the underlyng structure that osx relies on were revoked then crapintosh would be royally fuked.. or the part that win10 is NOT an OS it is a service..

[@kindanyume]

you mistake migrating crap from one platform to another as a good thing when in reality the fact remains its still crap regardless

[@WhyJustWhy2000]

They really need a "I'm not gonna touch it, please just give me some information density back" option. I'm so bothered by Apple's incessant push toward less and less information density. It's making smaller devices less useable

[@hikkamorii]

Honestly, I praised apple for making their interfaces more dense, because when I use a computer with a mouse/touchpad and a keyboard. Big Sur is a fucking joke.

[@axethepenguin]

@Jade L have you realized it lowers display quality smh

[@paulkdrozd]

They just need a touch mode toggle like tablet mode on Windows 10 to solve this

[@Blox117]

the dumbing down of tech

[@boredom1000]

@Mario Bad UX is scrolling 4x as often to see the same content.

[@bentonr.olmsted3423]

Don’t you just love KZbin’s auto-generated subtitles? “Mac OS Big Sewer” 😂

[@gamunu.b]

that's actually correct.

[@Todrick451]

well if he pronounced it normally, "Sir" like "Surf" without the F... maybe KZbin wouldn't nail the weird pronunciation with it's apparently spot-on auto-generated subtitles.

[@abdullahvqr]

Same happened with me

[@skendel]

He keeps screwing up the pronunciation of Sur. He continuously says "sewer" every time. It's not KZbin's fault. It's his.

“armed Mac users” xd 10:04

[@PaperBenni]

1:14 "We love the mac because it's expensive" Lol, they sure do xD

[@LarryMcLarren]

11:48 "So, like Windows 10, but not crap" At that point, I double checked to make sure I gave this video the like it deserved 😂😂😂

[@VeeAyyDee]

“Less than perfect cursor implementation is better than no cursor implementation at all”, where the heck is iPad calculator app???

[@thatpitter]

VeeAyDee Mkbhd has an interview with Craig and he explains that.

[@DavidParker]

Peter Schumacher hahaha yeah it’s such a dumb explanation, I just want one that can be easily accessed from the control panel! I don’t care about Apple making a “great” calculator!

[@brianchristine9301]

...AND the Weather app???

[@thomasalias8492]

@@thatpitter He didn't "explain" anything. He came up with an excuse on the spot because the real reason is that there isn't one. They just never got to it because it slipped their mind.

[@PhilippSeven]

@@DavidParker There is a bunch free app in appstore with calculator for widget area.

[@MarsorryIckuatuna]

I think he's the only one that pronounces it "Big Sewer" 😅

[@tqjoriam]

Sur is a Spanish word that means "South". He is pronouncing it like it is pronounced in Spanish. The way you pronounce it sounds like "Sir".

[@celkat]

@@tqjoriam True - however, the correct (i.e. Californian) pronunciation is "Big Sir"

[@MarsorryIckuatuna]

tqjoriam Cool, learnt something new - I’m from Namibia 🇳🇦, not much Spanish speaking here.

[@FriedEgg101]

@@tqjoriam It'a also a French word meaning 'on'. "Sur la table".

[@MuratDurucu]

tqjoriam There is a Turkish word for "Sur" as well. It means "huge walls of the castle". 😊

[@Christusolus]

"we love the mac because it's expensi..." 1:25 He almost slipped when revealing it was overpriced.

[@ashazhamzah5886]

Hahaha yes

[@UltraAlex2000]

in his mind, i think he was going to say 'you love mac because it's expensive', and no one can make me think otherwise.

[@MaxOakland]

Is it though? The $999 Macbook Air is an amazing value

[@korbenbutterworth3479]

@@MaxOakland plus 699 for the Mac mini is fantastic considering how powerful it is with apple silicone

[@YD_.]

Although it’s apple, the price for the same specs for other computers definitely make macs seem less pricey in comparison

[@twistmint1346]

Enjoyed the commentary. Always good to hear well thought out opinions. Thank you.

[@lhenn_]

I don't need a Macbook that I can use with my finger... Macs have one of the greatest trackpad out there on the market... Why should I lift my arm up to tip the screen?! I don't get it...

[@Macorian]

Because it will make sense with some apps. Hope you'll get it at some point.

[@lhenn_]

@@Macorian This is my personal opinion. iPads for finger control, macs for mouse and keyboard...

[@DISTRICTOVERDOSE]

cuz im changing positions

[@flightsimxfsx]

Macorian different types of hardware should have apps that are optimised for that hardware. Hope you’ll get it at some point.

[@Jan-wm8xx]

Agreed, Mac trackpad feels like touch without the fingers on screen.

[@johnisdoe]

Schiller: "It's common denominator thinking" *2 years later...* Apple's PR team: yikes

[@NomadLoFiChillLounge]

Wow man, nice video, enjoyed it. Thx

[@ynot22tony]

Finally original thoughtful content which is not just a regurgitation of all reviews which all suck.

[@shreyasundarrajan9709]

"its not perfect ....... but its better than nothing." why isn't that sad🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@GabrieleBonetti]

ewww

[@cat-.-]

Apple in a sentence

[@meeblings6]

cat -.- there are a lot of tech companies you could say match that statement before apple

[@noname_atall]

@@cat-.- have my like, if i could give you two, i would.

[@MadelnMachines]

That's Apples new marketing slogan

[@TheMrSnow1]

7:43 Apple breaks his own human interface guidelines with the wifi switch

[@anthonyhobday]

Not any more. They've added iOS style switches to the macOS Human Interface Guidelines, under "Buttons"

[@MarioAtheonio]

Which they've already been breaking with the Night Shift and Do Not Disturb switches in the notifications bar.

[@Felix-qx5tk]

@@MarioAtheonio i think they aimed to make Sidecar look better but they really should have made a setting so that the big spacing and big buttons only show up when using sidecar and not all the time on macbooks etc

[@Y-two-K]

I've seen your videos, but the intro in this one convinced me to finally subscribe.

[@langolier9]

It took me four minutes to realize that you both know what you’re talking about and quite amusing and how you explain it so ......good job

[@MiguelLuna1]

The KZbin captions say “macOS Big Sewer”

[@Todrick451]

because thats how he keeps pronouncing it...

[@captaindeadpool5389]

I thought thats what it was called.

[@wolf5115206]

Well he ain't wrong, partner.

[@MQXM001]

KZbin knows the truth

[@sephthesatanist6558]

1:24 "We love the Mac because it's expen-" You were going to say expensive, weren't you? .-.

[@davithehuman4432]

Yes

[@Dwevin]

Is he being sarcasm or just a real mistake?

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

JCDMAN23 I hope sarcastic

[@shivenpatel4039]

Him: touchscreen Mac are coming Me: looks at my XP’s 13 hackintosh with airbar

[@joecool2162]

Great video, one of your best yet. Snazzy!

[@davidfrischknecht8261]

Even when I've had a touchscreen laptop, I've never used the touchscreen functionality. To me, touch functionality should be left for devices that are held in the hand like tablets and phones.

[@alhdgysz]

It is a comfort feature.

[@geos1215]

Err.. or for screens that can go (almost) horizontal. :) As he said in the video, to have touch as the *only* input - yes, bad. But to just have it there as "option" - there are times when a scroll, a swipe is much easier than using the mouse.

[@briant.]

I have a laptop with touch screen and I use it all the time

[@jplisboa]

There’s also the third option: macOS on iPad Pros.

[@someoneelse354]

Very likely to me

[@iliyangeo]

I've had no interest in iPad Pro yet, but if this happens, I'll be among the first on the queue.

[@nc9604]

Espen Fredrick or make ipad os a half and half of macos and ios

[@subjord]

No need to completely let them converge. Just allow all Mac Apps (including Terminal) to run on iPadOS.

[@gabriellundmark]

Never gonna happen

[@ruggieru]

I like your the way you present the information! Well done Snazzy! *****

[@theos4931]

Love the presentation and the overall production. Keep it up man.

[@AuthenTech]

Yuck... that spacing is horrendous. I really hope they offer us a Compact Density setting...

[@ex0stasis72]

I'm sure there will be 3rd party tools if Apple doesn't that make the spacing more compact. I don't know if it's because MacOS is just really easy for developers to make customizations like that or because the MacOS market that is willing to spend money on apps is so large that developers find a way to do the impossible so often anyway.

[@sandi260]

your face

[@NicheAsQuiche]

settings? on an apple product?

[@ex0stasis72]

@@NicheAsQuiche Of course MacOS has lots of settings. It even lets you swap modifier keys and swap caps lock with the esc key. You'd need 3rd party software to do that on Windows (or at least without having to use PowerShell commands)

[@ex0stasis72]

@@NicheAsQuiche Settings on iOS, lol in your dreams.

[@victormejia2983]

What Steve said is always misrepresented. He was talking about having a touch screen that needed a stylus to work. That’s what he was against.

[@egyptik]

No, he actually said both. The stylus comment was during the launch op the first iPhone (2007). The comment regarding touch screen on desktops, as shown in this video, was much later in 2010/2011

[@MisterRandom101]

@@egyptik The world has changed so much since 2011. I bet if he were alive today he would actively support the Apple pencil.

[@rishabhbaidya9494]

@@MisterRandom101 So, in essence, a hypocrite?

[@jonahhammond1360]

@@rishabhbaidya9494 no…? What Steve said was relevant to the times. He said he didn’t Ike music streaming but back then music streaming was slow, expensive, and had poor quality. Now it’s much faster, cheaper, and that allows people to have more permanent music library. He was against a stylus in iPad because back then a pencil could only do as much as a finger could do, but now the Apple Pencil allows for sensitivity, and many more options. He was against a touchscreen on laptops because back then you would have to reach up to the screen to use it, but now laptops can fold in multiple directions. Times change, obviously Steve would approve if he was around to see it.

[@redman2751]

I like your idea of a touch screen laptop that can be separated and run as a tablet on its own. In tablet mode it would convert to iPad os and in laptop mode it’d be Big Sur or whatever they call it.

[@NewRepublicMapper]

Your Pronounciation of Sur Is Perfect

[@akirareiko]

You made me smile after you started playing the keynote with Craig and kept going haha massive like!

[@NoGames749]

USB C port destruction at 1:53 :D

[@nike12000haha]

At 8:27... you named your Mac John Siracusa! Hahaha

[@peterpayne2219]

Always love your coverage!

[@ACallander22]

Closed Caption On: "then we've got big sewer" 🤣

[@bluephreakr]

Drain the swamp! Make computing great again!

[@joefilter2923]

When I was using a touch screen on windows and an iPhone, I found a started touching the screen automatically when using a MacBook.

[@Devo_gx]

It was like trying to “click” the trackpad on a Windows machine after using a Mac several years ago (when Windows machines always had buttons below the trackpad for left/right click)

[@tedubadu2536]

I'm the other way. Fingerprints are my worst nightmare on my laptop screen

[@HAWXLEADER]

They have a damn flush glass screen that screams I'm a touch screen!

[@BBSHOCKZ]

@@HAWXLEADER right!

[@JimiJamma]

Just having an iPad, I’ve found myself at work wondering why the monitor wasn’t responding to my touch as well on my MacBook at home, now and then!

[@androneana952]

I like this video mainly for your humour! Great job sir

[@vcptmerica3962]

The “no.” from the keynote is a meme itself.

[@dominicskywalker]

When you’re using a touchscreen on a laptop don’t people put their elbow on a desk like a pivot when using it? Instead of having your whole arm in the air?

[@sensiblewheels]

Haha. Yes.

[@jasonlast7091]

I generally sit my laptop on my lap.

[@nothumanlol]

still tiring

[@DaniBarca]

Still not ideal. That's why I did not like iPad for working. Now that they allow mouse input the experience is much better.

[@buccob]

I've been enjoying productivity and making content with Surfaces since 2015 (Pro 3 and Book). You really hit the nail when you said that having the OPTION to use the touchscreen is the way to go... even my wife with her Surface Laptop 2 uses the touchscreen from time to time, for quick brush edits in images, or selecting options while lying in bed. It is not ergonomic from desktop postures, but it is MORE ergonomic in certain situations. So yeah what you describe is evidence that they are planning to release a touchscreen Mac.

[@aric85]

Okay you actually convinced me. Here's my new theory - The new iMac will be running Apple silicon and have an adjustbale angle like the Microsoft surface. And Apple Pencil support.

[@cheesebusiness]

But what for?

[@Toxic9813]

The iMac Pro definitely could get Apple Pencil..

[@CharlieQuartz]

you got 2/3

[@pwells2389]

Nice analysis snazzy

[@ThisIsTechToday]

So good. Spot on 👏

[@ZhengZL69]

"It's not perfect, but is better than nothing" Laughs in iPhone 12 not coming with a charger

[@nazimali7942]

Better than nothing in a box.

[@1oVVa]

@@nazimali7942 that's for iPhone 13

[@ghejnuni]

What about iphone 14 you may ask? The box starts at $100, the phone starts at $2000 and the charger start at $300

[@guspaz]

I already have a drawer full of iPhone and USB chargers, what do I need another one for?

[@nomanCyclewala]

@@guspaz you might already have a drawer full of iphones too. why would you want another one 😂

[@JohnGaltAustria]

Dear Snazzy, what monitor stand are you using in that video?

[@CraftCastUK]

Quinn what is that awesome screensaver you got going on in the background with the skyscrapers?

[@deathsyth8888]

"Jobs was wrong." - Snazzy Labs

[@Silver_x86]

He's been wrong dozens of times, if anyone ever did a little research, that is.

[@psyberpirate]

"Einstein was wrong." - Sam Witwicky

[@PanKosiu]

Famous Last Words.

[@deathsyth8888]

@@Silver_x86 I was highlighting the "infallibility" of Steve Jobs by some of the Apple faithful by taking the quote out of context and making a joke along the way. Sorry if it came off as misinformed.

[@borgranta61103]

The video appears to me to admit Jobs was right in not allowing a touch screen to become the primary interface and yet was wrong by not allowing a touch screen to become a supplemental interface. In other words Jobs was both 100% right and 100% wrong.

[@i_maq]

Well you've convinced me, Mac Pro Touch incoming! Direct competitor to the Surface Studio, Macbook Touch and Macbook Pro Touch - detachable, Surface Book styles!

[@nathanthomascherian3572]

wow :) This gave me confidence to get Big Sur 😀

[@JoshKeatonFan]

I love your videos!

[@Crux161]

Everyone around the _actual_ Big Sur says the last bit more like the English “Sir” - it’s such a beautiful place, you can drive a road above the clouds and see them stretch on forever 😍

[@august1871]

Saving this for when the touch Mac comes out. I think you've nailed it here, Nostradamus. Sub earned!

[@reynoldsj_]

Great take. Thank you

[@cmj1993]

Hi Quinn! Quick question if you see this. In macOS 11, when you right click on the new app drawer folder that replaced launchpad, does it still give you list view of all apps ? Thanks

[@ItsAkile]

Touch on desktop is also dumb to me when I can just use the mouse, there is however a few of use cases including drawing/ios apps. long time ipad user as well and I really believe in dedicated hardware

[@GregConquest]

Occasional gestures on the screen could be very useful. Think about zooming in and out on maps (or 3D/virtual models). Sometimes just a few multi-touches on the screen gives a lot more control. ... But as soon as Macs get touch, you know users will ask for a 360-hinge -- or a detachable henge. I could see this evolution getting to a 360 degree hinge, but it just seems absurd to have both Mac and iPadOS tablets. ......... Could there eventually be a unified AppleOS -- one that customized its interface to the device it was running on?

[@roopey]

They should really think about their target groups... Both PC and Mac are meant for professionals / power users. Keep the slow and often less effective touchscreen for the normal user. You need to write fast / a lot? Use a Keyboard. Mouses are also superior on large screen with lots of content. Touch makes no sense on a PC / Mac. I almost never use the touchscreen on my laptop. I wish I could have bought it without a touchscreen.

[@XanarchistBlogspot]

For coding and writing that is certainly true. It can be useful for audio engineering if you have a lot of sliders IF the sliders are designed well. That being said I don't use the touchscreen much on my Dell Precision laptop and do use it on iPad Pro, shrug.

[@teroojala5436]

Touchscreen is nice to have, but not necessary. I use it for scrolling and some apps like Netflix. It is faster and easier than trackpad. However, i will not buy apple product until they improve multitasking and window management. Like cmd tab should show all browser windows with preview, like Windows and window snapping is a must have.

[@azuretao]

When will it get released?

[@johnsavard7583]

Great detective work. And indeed, since all iPad applications will be available by default, and a lot of them need multitouch, that indeed is the deciding factor for a company that insists on quality in its products! I think you've nailed it.

[@W--ko9ms]

1:25 "we love the mac cause its expe...... " good one.

[@milenixx8384]

Touchscreen really? Now imagine a 27" retina display covered with sweat, dirt and oily spots, just like your phone! Even with stylus it's an absurd to me. Just NO!

[@AeyGee]

@ A matte screen will still pick up fingerprints and will get scratched.

[@XSquibX]

I've done a lot of video and photo editing... This causes me to be very anal about picture quality and things being as close to right as possible. Part of this is not seeing dirt on my screen........ When people touch my screen to point at something, sometimes I legit snap and yell at them, cause it's such a pet peeve... I hate touching screens... This is why I can't make myself buy a modern phone or ipad >,< lol

[@RR-uc1wb]

XSquibX It’s much easier to wipe off a smartphone than a laptop screen. Every time I clean my laptop screen I feel like the hinge is going to snap, or the screen is going to bend.

[@kaleidoscopeon]

Milen Z don’t necessary mean the whole screen with be touchscreen.

[@varunbansal007]

Baby Magnum it also seems like the fingerprints never come off

[@HoldandModify]

Interesting theory but you’re forgetting a lot of users input device for their Macs is the built in trackpad or the Magic Track Pad. Which does much to give the same interaction feel of the iPhone and iPad.

[@SKarRevolution]

Snazzy: Makes fun of how we pronounce Big Sur Me: “Why are you booing me, I’m right?!”

[@dfmosDOS]

Seems like Apple is having a Windows 8 moment. This surely won't work out well for powerusers.

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

you have to work on your analogies dude. it aint crackin

[@JMNTN]

I highly doubt that it will be nearly as bad as windows 8 lol, it probably won't be as bad as windows 10 either

[@ZaneBlalock]

Win8 failed due to their forceful shift while expunging a lot functionality. I personally liked Win8 for it's vision, but I hated that they handicapped a lot of basic operations. Ironically, even in win10 there's handicapping BUT it's easier to get around. It's a learning moment that Apple can clearly learn from and pivot on how to do it correctly :o

[@LordTechPro]

Snazzy Labs: "macOS Big Sur" KZbin captions: "Big Sewer" got it

[@Todrick451]

he keeps saying "sewer"... it's one syllable, "Sir" like "Surf" with no F

[@impendio]

He is pronouncing Sur right if you consider it is a spanish word, it’s closer in sound to Soup than it is to Surf, it’s actually just like soup but with an R at the end.

[@alejandroooow]

impendio no you don’t say sour in Spanish

[@LordTechPro]

@@Todrick451 Exactly

[@LordTechPro]

@@drewthor That might be the reason, but he should pronounce it the way Craig Federighi does as "Big Sur"

[@sumukhprashanth1743]

I like the watch you wear! Which model is it? 😛

man good video and good thinking! congrats

[@_Drav]

Touch Macs? Oh boy, I'll pass! I retired my 2014 15" MacBook Pro when the iPad Pro 11" first came out, and just recently bought a budget Ryzen Lenovo 2-in-1 and I love both devices and use them frequently. That being said, I never wanted or use the pen and touch features on my Lenovo, or use my iPad with a stand/keyboard. A touch-enabled Mac sounds like a thing I am absolutely not interested in.

[@emmabentley7945]

I have to say, every time they said "Big Sur" it sounded like "Big Sewer"

[@anthonyhobday]

"Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." - Sherlock Holmes

[@ex0stasis72]

I'm super excited now! I had switched from MacOS to Windows about 2 years ago because I wanted a touchscreen laptop, but now, it appears that they are planning on making a touch screen MacBook soon.

[@JP-sw5ho]

I actually find the menu items frustratingly small on a 4K iMac, especially with the trackpad. Also can’t the Magic Trackpad do the multitouch thing for iOS apps? That said you’ve convinced me

[@loveiphones4550]

Just because it has iOS apps doesn't mean it will have a touch screen. Just look at chromeboks 😂😂

[@mattwinward3168]

8:15 the WiFi switch button breaks apples catalyst guidelines as well. Edit: I don’t think Apple is preparing for touchscreen macs, I think they’re preparing for touch-space Apple Glasses.

[@vasasv6848]

matt winward - yes, like the different icons (including battery one). They are testing and adjusting AR glasses recognition for icons and interface 😎

[@justplainlawr]

you made it that far into the video?

[@misterfung]

Yeah.

[@peterwindle4453]

as well as gesture controls... they are very much in support of accessibility on Mac. Formatting the Mac OS layout more like iOS makes this easier for a lot of people to navigate.

[@Slowdr]

You had me at "Jobs was wrong".

[@imnotafurry9117]

All Craig said was that they weren’t merging iOS and MacOS. He never said anything about not making touch screen laptops

[@T-WaL]

When Steve Jobs announced the iPhone he said it runs OS X. This is old news!

[@noneofyourbuisness7]

Yes and no. Some of the background definitely made it over. But given the X86 nature of OSX (until Apple puts their own silicon in Macs soon) there’s still major differences. It’s not that simple

[@MrTofu1ukr]

@@noneofyourbuisness7 bro, you totally ruined a joke

[@nqh4393]

@@noneofyourbuisness7 r/woosh

[@papa-pete]

if there was a joke it wasn't funny

[@aortizc82]

Me after watching a few seconds: no, I don't think so. Me after watching the whole video: damn, they really are doing it!

[@snazzy]

Haha cheers! Thanks for watching.

[@BouncingZeus]

I saw this coming with the apple chips annouchment. Apple has been planning this for a while now.

[@zorgius]

No, they aren't.

[@ex0stasis72]

This comment is meme-worthy.

[@johng9562]

Words are EXPENSIVE ~ each one spends the hearers attention until they are no longer listening. This is why less has always been more in the ART of communication.

[@jroar123]

I have a Mac Pro with a fast graphics card, dual 3.33 cpus, 48 gig ram, and tons of storage along with usb-c connections. Will this new so work on my system?

[@seanpaul7069]

Great content. Subbed

[@jamest3336]

watching this on dual monitors. mac os. i cant even reach my screen. haha

[@migvelv]

Apple 1990s: “Think Different” Apple 2020: “Not Perfect, But Better Than Nothing”

[@TheKimNeeper]

Apple's Think Different advertising slogan launched in 1997

[@migvelv]

Kim Neeper Rasmussen ok changed it

[@abubakrakram6208]

Honestly, it's this image that keeps Apple from adding touchscreens on Macs and for a long time kept them from adding cursor support to the iPad. They don't want to make it a "meh" experience, and for all the reasons Quinn outlined here, they may not be able to get it perfect. I think it'd still be pretty excellent though.

[@alxisl]

Quinn the snazzy iPhone guy! Loved that name! 🤣

[@printingmailingservices-wh6438]

Great Video, Thanks!

[@miharimamyrajaonison1261]

I love the contents your produce ! So insightful ! As far as I'm concerned, I don't like touch input for desktop or laptop computing. I am convinced it slows down the process and I never liked machine with touchscreen (battery life issues, miss clicks and so on). I prefer Windows approach of the touchscreen, desktop computing requires mouse input so they keep the ergonomics for the mouse. With Big Sur, Apple is shifting away from the mouse and as a result, shifting away from desktop users. Anyhow, you're doing an amazing work !

[@typingcat]

"Mouse can't replicate multi-touch" Well, use two mice.

[@LEDmatrix]

there also is, you know, the trackpad...

[@user-cw3yj8jv1s]

Yeah, great idea! I'll just use that third hand I keep in my pocket for scenarios like this. Now I finally get to use that arm for my second mouse! Yay!

[@KhairyAbdElZaher]

use 10

[@pom4408]

@@LEDmatrix or five mini-mouse at the tip of each fingers...

[@slipoch6635]

I have a friend who can use a mouse in one hand and a graphics tablet in the other at the same time, we always joked we should get him a trackball he could use with his feet (he can draw with his feet.)

[@_j22t_]

Subbed! Your sense of humor ✔️ Knowledge ✔️ I agree with you ✔️

[@YTBKd]

I was about 70% sure that this would be a clickbait video. Still opened it and was amazed with detailed explanation. Very good content. Subbing. Keep up the good work!

[@snazzy]

Cheers!