Apple M3 Deep Dive: The Details Most Skipped Over

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@snazzy
@snazzy Жыл бұрын
A few notes: (1) at 5:43, it should be noted there’s only support for AV1 decoding-not encoding. This was in the script but I experienced a Freudian slip. (2) several take issue with my usage of “stupid” when referring to the average customer so let me rephrase: the average consumer is *ill-informed*-and the prior 13” MBP was mediocre hardware (sorry, it was) that served to prey on the lesser-informed that figured Pro > Air without really considering the differences.
@jutjub22
@jutjub22 Жыл бұрын
Just plain wrong, 13" Macbook Pro M1/M2 has several advantages, for one, its battery life won't be ever reached by any Macbook. Design is also better looking, dimensions/weight are better than 14" model. I would prefer 13" Macbook pro M3. Now to get 16GB ram M3 you need 50% more money, than with M1/M2.
@ABowlofWeetabix
@ABowlofWeetabix Жыл бұрын
@@jutjub22Battery life is 2 hours less on the 13" vs 14" now and everything else you mentioned is subjective vs 14". The 13" was not a good VALUE upgrade over the Air
@jutjub22
@jutjub22 Жыл бұрын
@@ABowlofWeetabix no, opposite, 14" has 15h wireless web, and 13" has 17h. I think the biggest issue price and RAM, now you need to pay almost 2000$ to get cheapest M3 with more than 8GB ram. M1/M2 you could get with 16GB ram for low as 1100-1300 (air/pro upgrades)
@MaxKissler
@MaxKissler Жыл бұрын
Nah, that was quite correct - no need to redact it. The 'average consumer' is pretty stupid.
@MacMasore
@MacMasore Жыл бұрын
The base tier pro’s have almost always been “manager laptops” if you want to look pro but really don’t need one (and would be better of with an upgraded non-pro)
@falki
@falki Жыл бұрын
8GB as lowest RAM Tier in an "Pro" notebook - that has to end!
@huyanh995
@huyanh995 Жыл бұрын
When I bought my first MBP, the lowest tier was 8GB/128GB. 8 years later, only SSD doubled up. It's embarrassing given the RAM price right now.
@johnsch8634
@johnsch8634 Жыл бұрын
You can get a $109 phone with 8gb of RAM, it's ridiculous!
@jutjub22
@jutjub22 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and to get cheapest 16GB M3 you need almost 2000$, M1/M2 with 16GB ram was possible to get from 1100-1200$ or so.
@Kelson01
@Kelson01 Жыл бұрын
even 256 GB SSD is pretty sad for pro macbook at baseline. A Mac is not an iPhone, 256 is still ridiculously overkill for a phone but I see 1TB as a baseline for me on a mac. But I guess that means I must shell out an extra 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 to get the upgraded storage
@rsr789
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
@@voidmayonnaise Which is why I upgraded to 64GB Ram (sorry, 'unified memory') on my Mac Studio M1 Max... cuz I knew that anything less would make the machine feel really slow 5 years from now.
@cirkutpersonal
@cirkutpersonal Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of in-depth but not TOO technically explained type of content that we're looking for! Great job Quinn & crew!
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын
i know gamers nexus has a habit of going SUUPER deep
@James-wn9qc
@James-wn9qc Жыл бұрын
Gonna be honest he lost me 80 seconds in
@cirkutpersonal
@cirkutpersonal Жыл бұрын
@@James-wn9qc that’s totally fine for you! I’ve been a tech enthusiast all my life, but more in the usage of technology rather than the production side of things, so this was a super awesome dive into the ‘why’s of the production chain that I like to see!
@mojo276
@mojo276 Жыл бұрын
I agree! This is some of what Quinn does best.
@brian106699
@brian106699 Жыл бұрын
I’m not the demographic for this video. I heard words that sounded like English talking about products that I love telling to know something about them so that I don’t get duped. I’m going to get duped unless I rewatch this a few times.
@SamSnelling-u3b
@SamSnelling-u3b Жыл бұрын
10/10 explaining the TSMC chip processes. So many outlets get the N3** series mixed up. $1600 for 8GB ram and one external display support in a "Pro" machine is laughable though. One of your best videos yet!
@jpkoskimaa
@jpkoskimaa Жыл бұрын
Yeah the chip node explanation was perfectly executed, haven't seen ANYONE else talk about it - that's why Snazzy Labs is levels above other youtubers imho
@hereweare9011
@hereweare9011 Жыл бұрын
Computers at Walmart have more ram at that price tag.
@maomekat7969
@maomekat7969 Жыл бұрын
@@hereweare9011 at half price with nvidia gpus...
@photoniccannon2117
@photoniccannon2117 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I'm disappointed about is that they didn't raise the RAM for the base M3 MacBook Pro to 12GB or 16GB. $1599 is a great price reduction for the 14" form factor, but it turns into $1799 as soon as you upgrade the RAM to a more reasonable spec.
@Striker50_
@Striker50_ Жыл бұрын
Now add tax and you're approaching $2,000
@dbbbbbbb1952
@dbbbbbbb1952 Жыл бұрын
So I’ve been using the m1 ultra since dday for dev work. And I recently got a baseline air. My biggest worry was that MongoDB would kill my ram because on the Ultra it literally uses about 12 to 14 gb based on log size. I loaded it up on the m1. I was very pleasantly surprised. Yes the page file is there but in terms of performance barely felt the difference. I’m running at any one time 3 to 4 large vscode instances, Xcode and chrome and safari simultaneously as well as numerous db servers and node processes. Yes it eventually slows down when I run the iOS simulator but all in all for an 8gb machine in 90% of cases it runs just as well as the m1 ultra.
@dillardc81
@dillardc81 Жыл бұрын
$600 to upgrade the base model iMac to 16GB RAM & 1TB storage. It's a joke.
@Jst4vdeos
@Jst4vdeos Жыл бұрын
The 14" M1 pro dropped to $1599 within like a month of launch with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd
@dillardc81
@dillardc81 Жыл бұрын
@@Jst4vdeos there's nothing Pro about Xbox series S storage capacity
@audithisworld24
@audithisworld24 Жыл бұрын
This is the content we love. Thanks for the TSMC breakdown. It all makes a lot of sense when you look at it from that lens.
@zollotech
@zollotech Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of all the extras
@amusetech
@amusetech Жыл бұрын
That's a great dig down on those new MacBooks! What I find the most disappointing is that the new $1600 14" M3 MacBook Pro comes with 8GB of RAM. A Pro device in 2023.
@fekett
@fekett Жыл бұрын
But this year they moved the base processor to “pro” laptops. For m2 pro with 16gb you can pay only 200 dollars more. I wonder what air will change. Or will it even exist
@GTAUneeq1
@GTAUneeq1 Жыл бұрын
I think the air will still remain. People use it for light tasks and it is easier to carry.
@NapkinNexter
@NapkinNexter 9 ай бұрын
How can you say this?????? It's U. N. I. F. I. E. D. memory! It works so much better, like magic!!!!!! I am so excited to try my new M3 macbook pro arriving tomorrow at my house. Shame on Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds! Mac is just a million times better at everything than Lie-nux and Dwinde-dows. Jobs and Cook FTW!
@Mira-bt3zx
@Mira-bt3zx Жыл бұрын
The chip yield thing is very interesting! It seems like we’re squarely in the iterative regime of changes, where no one year is worth upgrading from last year, but the cascading changes are worth it if you’re a few generations back.
@HVDynamo
@HVDynamo Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's been like that for the last decade already with the only real leap being the initial switch to Apple Silicon. Prior to that every iteration (PC or Mac) was small enough that it just generally wasn't worth upgrading any more often than once every 4 years or longer. Hell, I kept my mid 2012 classic MBP right up until January this year when the M2 16" MBP launched. I probably could have waited until this M3 launch to upgrade still, but I figured 10 years was good enough for a machine. Hoping my M2 Max 16" MBP can hold on just as long too!
@rsr789
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
@@HVDynamo My MBP is still a 2013 13" MBP, and with the M3, I think now I'm finally ready to upgrade. I will state that my MBP ISN'T my primary computer.
@TheFuxxoWorksGarage
@TheFuxxoWorksGarage Жыл бұрын
and also, it is like that with iphones for a decade too.. which is basically the same thing regarding the silicon and power improvements
@cordlc
@cordlc Жыл бұрын
TSMC finally hit the wall hard just as their competitors have before them. One of Apple's biggest advantages was outspending everyone else to get on the best process ASAP (M1 was on 5nm 2 years ahead of AMD/Nvidia). They're still probably a year or two ahead, but the advantage is so small (maybe half a process) that it's less relevant than ever. Unfortunately this means the gains for most of the industry will be more boring than ever, until we hit an unexpected development somewhere...
@maomekat7969
@maomekat7969 Жыл бұрын
@@cordlc yeah sad...3nm or 2nm is here to stay for 6 yrs. no 1/4nm in 10 years...
@chindall
@chindall Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I love these videos. All the other videos go into the hype. Snazzy goes into the details that I want to know about. I was very happy to see a Snazzy video this morning. Keep up the good work!
@13Cubed
@13Cubed Жыл бұрын
05:43 - Only AV1 decode, not encode, as far as I know.
@dadthelad
@dadthelad Жыл бұрын
Quality, in-depth stuff. Appreciate it. Most of the typical YT reviews are merely repeating info I already knew, mostly from simply browsing the Apple online store. But not you, you dig out stuff I had no idea about. Excellent.
@benjaminlynch9958
@benjaminlynch9958 Жыл бұрын
Great video. One correction around the 5:45 mark. The new chips only do AV1 decode. No mention (presumably because it’s not there) of AV1 encode capability.
@MysteryMii
@MysteryMii Жыл бұрын
Yeah. And even then it’ll be a while before it’s actually utilized as things have to be updated. The KZbin app still doesn’t stream video in AV1 on the 15 Pro/Pro Max.
@MaslinMonty
@MaslinMonty Жыл бұрын
I caught this as well, but are there any/many end use cases that do encode jobs in AV1 on device? I assumed that youtube does that processing for you when you upload.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
@@MaslinMonty You would probably want to upload in AV1 format?
@MysteryMii
@MysteryMii Жыл бұрын
@@MaslinMonty Livestreaming to KZbin, but that’s about it rn. Twitch has yet to introduce AV1 support at all despite Amazon being a founding member of the consortium that developed AV1.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
@@MysteryMii Apple is also a member of the consortium and they’re the last major hardware vendor to add support.
@RudyOMP
@RudyOMP Жыл бұрын
This is the first snazzy labs video in a while that actually showed up on my recommended. I watch them all regardless.
@Orenji_San
@Orenji_San Жыл бұрын
As always, the most informative recap
@snazzy
@snazzy Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@AvocadoAtrocity
@AvocadoAtrocity Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video. Snazzy loves Apple so much, he's willing to be critical.
@dominic7012
@dominic7012 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the entire event was filmed on iPhone 15 Pro Max is mind blowing! 🔥
@mhesvik
@mhesvik Жыл бұрын
This is high quality content. I’ve watched 2 videos prior to this about the new M3 chips, but they were really just repeating what we saw on the keynote.
@DjBlacid
@DjBlacid Жыл бұрын
how can you keep consistent a gem of a channel for more than 10 years snazzy, im perplexed
@snazzy
@snazzy Жыл бұрын
Aw thanks man
@JustinFYI
@JustinFYI Жыл бұрын
Finally someone properly explaining the TSMC backstory. No other reviewer does the homework, they just parrot whatever Mark Gurman tweets that day.
@coloradofilmmaker
@coloradofilmmaker Жыл бұрын
Love the amount of detail you put in your videos! Thank you for always being so thorough
@Sero62
@Sero62 Жыл бұрын
I am about to buy my first macbook. Will the battery of the M3 Pro last longer than the M3 Max during normal usage like browsing with 15-20 tabs, while listening to music?
@netcruzer
@netcruzer Жыл бұрын
Interesting info about the 3nm process node roadmap. The 256GB remaining in the iMac for base AND mid tier really hurts. The specs per dollar does seem like the worst value in the entire M3 range. Which is sad because my 2011 iMac is nearing retirement.
@chromaticvisuelle
@chromaticvisuelle Жыл бұрын
Get a mini pc with 64GB and 1TB for a lot less lol
@maomekat7969
@maomekat7969 Жыл бұрын
@@chromaticvisuelle this...and soooo faast stil..literally half price...
@radellaf
@radellaf Жыл бұрын
I'll be replacing a late 2015 i7/16GB/2TB. M3 is $2500, and $400 of that is the 2TB vs 1TB SSD, which I'll pay, but most people probably wouldn't. The 2015 was at least that much, 2.5" smaller screen, fusion vs SSD, and I'll be happy to not have the fan. Given the inflation over the last 6-7 years, seems like a pretty OK value to me. I could build a PC for about 2/3 the price, but then I'd have to deal with Windows, and the M3's GPU is probably enough for WoW.
@vrapan
@vrapan Жыл бұрын
seriously you always have the most interesting and comprehensive take when it comes to new releases, everything i need to know and almost nothing that should be blatantly obvious. Thanks!
@OilersFlash
@OilersFlash Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness he mentioned the memory fiasco. I felt like the only one. It’s the reason I’m waiting because the Pro version doesn’t offer the 32GB I was about to buy just a week ago when I decided to wait.
@christophervankammen8340
@christophervankammen8340 Жыл бұрын
This continues to blow my mind on how little i understand about business. How many aspects there are to making chips, marketing and pricing. Thank you for showing how or why things are the way they are while still sharing great information about new technology
@travisnorman
@travisnorman Жыл бұрын
Lol did you tell an A.I. to turn Tim Cook into Frankenstein? 😂
@SpkdroStudios
@SpkdroStudios Жыл бұрын
I’m still stuck on an old intel chip. Would it be worth it to just upgrade to the M3 Max?
@Tonellacam
@Tonellacam Жыл бұрын
I went from intel to and M1 Max and it was a crazy difference so I imagine intel to m3 max would be a crazy life changing experience
@nhs.14
@nhs.14 Жыл бұрын
@@Tonellacamyeah i still use intel too! Can’t wait to see m3 14” release because m1 14” is bloody expensive here. How come the price just fall not more than $300 since i added it to my cart even BEFORE m2 14” releases is beyond me 😂
@Tonellacam
@Tonellacam Жыл бұрын
@@nhs.14 I bought a refurbished M1 Max and got a great deal on it and honestly I would of never known it was a refurbished one !
@brightboxstudio
@brightboxstudio Жыл бұрын
The M1/2/3 base and Pro levels are already far more power and and battery life, with much less heat and fan noise, than any Intel Mac ever made. I “only” upgraded from Intel to an M1 Pro, but that improvement is still working so well that I don’t need to upgrade to M3 yet, and I don’t need a Max. The people who need the Max chip are those whose software genuinely needs more CPU and GPU cores or a very high amount of Unified Memory, because those are the improvements. The single core score of a Max or Ultra is not really higher than a base or Pro, so do not upgrade thinking the machine is always faster. The Max and Ultra are only faster if you do a high amount of parallel processing (e.g., 3D and video editing) that can be distributed across more cores.
@c.garison3770
@c.garison3770 Жыл бұрын
This upgrade appears to only be for those that work in the realm of video production or want to experiment in gaming on the Mac. For the rest of us "normies", the best value proposition will be a certified refurbished M2 Macbook Pro in just a couple of months. Based on all of the great information from the TSMC process, I think I can I would wait until the M4 chips if I needed to live life closer to the bleeding edge and already had an M2 based Mac.
@geekless
@geekless Жыл бұрын
You’re like a happy, drunk, Irish Santa. Outstanding!
@milnerrafe
@milnerrafe Жыл бұрын
Best recap as always, Well done Quinn 👍
@abraxasnl
@abraxasnl Жыл бұрын
Massive kudos to going into the TSMC story here. Most KZbinrs stick to "3nm is better than 4" and are utterly surprised by the implications of the node. You really do your homework.
@Colynn9
@Colynn9 Жыл бұрын
As excited as I was when the M1 Macs arrived, I decided to hold off upgrading from my older MacBook, knowing that they'd only get better after the 1st generation Apple silicone. With the introduction of the 3nm processors, I was finally convinced to flip-the-switch and upgrade! That is until you pointed out the "B" and "E" differences. I'll now wait with anticipation for your verdict. Hope it doesn't break your bank! Show less
@oscar5
@oscar5 Жыл бұрын
You do know that it will never be the case that there isn’t something better coming in just a few months
@Burps___
@Burps___ Жыл бұрын
As I order my new M3 Mac, I struggle with this question: Do I need a powerful Mac (high-end chip, plenty of RAM) so that I can harness the strength of AI…or is it the opposite in that AI will be cloud-based and I actually need less “horsepower” beneath my wrists? Thank you
@rpaulseymour
@rpaulseymour Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I’m thinking. I would love to use stable diffusion locally to feed it to learn specific things and imagery I need for our brand. And, budget for hosted server time is zero. Adobe Firefly is neat, but no way to train it at all. I wonder…
@HighYield
@HighYield Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your little dive into process nodes and their implication. Straight to the point, factually correct and easy to understand. 👍
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
When discussing prices, I think we should all consider 16GB of memory and 512 of storage as the effective base model. Yes the lower spec models perform well for most things, but they page memory aggressively and with such a small SSD it will wear out quickly. It wouldn’t be terrible, but a soldered SSD means it bricks the whole system.
@definingslawek4731
@definingslawek4731 Жыл бұрын
realistically 1 terabyte is the minimum viable storage, especially when this is the one laptop where you will never ever be able to have more. The OS itself and various non user files take up roughly 150-200gb (Windows laptops have replacable drives and often even second slots so you could for the price of 256 - 512 get 2tb extra in your laptop) Re: bricking the system from worn out ssd. This is even worse than it seems cause a repair shop could actually replace that ssd and resolder it but the BIOS is held on ssd now instead of on a seperate bios chip meaning you can't for example run the computer from an external drive, nor replace the internal drive.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
@@definingslawek4731 IMO, 512 is plenty for most users. I've had my MBP for just over a year and I am using 235 GB of storage. I don't use it heavily, I have a desktop for that, but I do use it a lot. I suppose if you plan on running creative or professional software on it (other than office), 1TB makes a lot of sense. But despite Apple's target demographic, that isn't most people buying these things.
@a16416
@a16416 Жыл бұрын
I purchased my first ever, Mac and M3 max excited to join the Apple family
@ThomasWaldmann
@ThomasWaldmann Жыл бұрын
Welcome! I joined with an M1 MBA 2y ago and it's still great. The thing I needed some time to get used to is the different keyboard layout.
@benjaminpeternorris
@benjaminpeternorris Жыл бұрын
Love it! - Wow, you got this one out fast! Thanks for a down to earth explanation of what Apple's new line up means, without the Apple marketing spin. I'm guessing they never sent you some snacks...
@TechMixr
@TechMixr 10 ай бұрын
Is the M3 Max review coming?
@jpracing893
@jpracing893 Жыл бұрын
I don't feel that disappointed getting my M2 Pro 16" a few months ago, plus I genuinely prefer the Space Grey colour - and it seems like compared to the M3 Pro there's going to be a very small bump in CPU Performance which is more what I need for my workflow than GPU. The M3 Max looks quite promising, but at that price point I'm gonna wait 3 years or so before upgrading.
@LiamGaughan
@LiamGaughan Жыл бұрын
Best M3 video on KZbin. Thanks
@piteshmistry9957
@piteshmistry9957 Жыл бұрын
I actually bought an M2 Max Macbook Pro back in March... I was originally going to wait until Xmas before buying, and I wish I did now LOL... Anyway thanks Snazzy Labs for the in-depth video especially talking about the specific chip yield they are using for M3, I haven't seen any others talk about this! Now not as bothered about getting my M2 Max MBP earlier this year :)
@Tonellacam
@Tonellacam Жыл бұрын
Trust me our m2 max’s our still pretty freaking good !!
@El.Duder-ino
@El.Duder-ino Жыл бұрын
Very cool deep dive containing details u need to know before going even more deeper. Thx a lot!
@owlmostdead9492
@owlmostdead9492 Жыл бұрын
I will probably never buy a MacBook again, I refuse to get punk'ed by Apple's RAM & Storage prices. My M1 Max 16" spec equivalent is now 4250€, from 3680€ in 2021.
@gs7828
@gs7828 Жыл бұрын
They don't want you to buy the M3 series if you don't need to, or won't get scammed into buying a base model M3 with 8GB of RAM. The M1 Pro/16GB are great options, as well as the M2 Pro/16GB! No need to buy the M3.
@owlmostdead9492
@owlmostdead9492 Жыл бұрын
@@gs7828 Don't worry I wasn't even tempted as soon as I realised AV1 encode is *still* not a thing with the M3, also Thunderbolt 5 is going to be a thing very soon.
@tylerdurden783
@tylerdurden783 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the fact that you are a fan of Apple, but are still able to point out things they do that are irksome/uncool. Some Apple tech KZbinrs can't do that; it is all sunshine and roses all the time, every time.
@audy6947
@audy6947 Жыл бұрын
it's a crime to sell a 8GB RAM on $1600 laptop especially in 2023-2024😂
@Jst4vdeos
@Jst4vdeos Жыл бұрын
Especially one that had 16gb base last year and is marketed as a pro laptop
@SterlingSanders
@SterlingSanders 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate your technical insight sir. Especially the relation between manufacturing, product and performance.
@nathanross4036
@nathanross4036 Жыл бұрын
Putting the base M3 in a 14" chassis feels like overkill. All that weight and thickness for a chip that can be passively cooled in the MBA doesn't seem like a good buy unless you have to have a 120hz screen.
@jacobrichter
@jacobrichter Жыл бұрын
The screen is better in more ways than that. Also, it has a better array of ports and much better battery life (although these days all the MacBooks have great battery life). The M3 is PLENTY fast enough for almost everyone. There's is no logical reason why you couldn't value all the benefits without needing more than M3 power.
@nathanross4036
@nathanross4036 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobrichter I can understand needing the ports, But $1600 for a laptop with 8gb of RAM and a chip that will be in the $1100 MBA is still a hard pill to swallow.
@jacobrichter
@jacobrichter Жыл бұрын
​@@nathanross4036 That's certainly true. I'm mostly saying that it makes a lot more sense than the 13" MBP, that basically only had the advantage of more battery life compared to the MBA.
@Alwarin1
@Alwarin1 Жыл бұрын
But it cannot be passively cooled in the MBA. 1st of all, there is no M3 MBA yet, but 2ndly, MBAs DO reach the max temperatures and slow down. Sure, they could have gone with a smaller chassis and just one fan, but it probably was not worth machine setup/engineering/validation to create a whole new SKU.
@techinrl9869
@techinrl9869 Жыл бұрын
But, but, but we have to render our 8K Canon Raw footage on that M3 and not melt down the chassis! ;)
@robertoacj
@robertoacj Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the look into TSMC current and upcoming nodes, that was very interesting
@similanjiao
@similanjiao Жыл бұрын
Frankenstein's monster*
@alfieprothero2774
@alfieprothero2774 Жыл бұрын
Bet you are fun at parties
@vishalvijayanand307
@vishalvijayanand307 Жыл бұрын
exactly content we need more videos like this on more products keep up that good work Quinn!
@Sertsch
@Sertsch Жыл бұрын
I only ask for one thing: Give me a god damn 27" Imac.
@Tonellacam
@Tonellacam Жыл бұрын
I have a 27 inch studio display and love it ! I connect my m2 max to it and chef kiss !!
@djmtype
@djmtype Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Tim Cook’s Apple always seems to disappoint. Long release times on rehashed products. It will take literally another 10 years if a 27 inch iMac ever happens.
@mateoconk
@mateoconk Жыл бұрын
Best video on the M3 I’ve seen. Thank you
@shapelessed
@shapelessed Жыл бұрын
I love hearing these US prices, knowing that when the product arrives in Europe, it will be at least 30% more expensive. It cost $2000 to buy a 256GB/16GB M2 13" Air when it launched... Instead of about $1300
@Alwarin1
@Alwarin1 Жыл бұрын
Well most of the 30% is our VAT that by custom is already shown in EU and not shown in US. Noone in US paid 1300$ for that MBA as well, they just do not present it outwards.
@khoanguyen0001
@khoanguyen0001 Жыл бұрын
@@Alwarin1 There are 5 U.S. states that don’t have a sales tax, including Oregon. There’s no VAT in the U.S.
@Alwarin1
@Alwarin1 Жыл бұрын
@@khoanguyen0001 cool, no VAT, sales tax varies over states, which is probably the reason why it is a custom to show these prices without tax. Although I am surprised to see that some states have none at all. But truth of the matter is that the price difference dictated by Apple is not that big as it seems, simply because the VAT in EU is somewhere around 20%. We have 21.
@christeder
@christeder Жыл бұрын
For EU the base model will be around 2069 € and 16GB will be 2299 €. Wanted to see like 1700 for base model with 16gb. It's approx 2200 usd for base and 2400 for 16gb
@shapelessed
@shapelessed Жыл бұрын
​@@christeder Well, I bought my 16/256 because I don't need much space, aside from enough memory for compiling a few apps on Apple Silicon for MacOS. And I think the exact price when I bought it was about $1950...? I'm not 100% certain due to fluctuations of currencies and their exchange rates, so it varies across different countries that haven't adopted Euro as their currency.
@mwniels
@mwniels Жыл бұрын
By far the best analysis of this event I've seen
@SignalChange
@SignalChange Жыл бұрын
JIT compilers and methods have been around since the 90's in the amiga days. Its pretty much what coders used to make cool 3d effects that basically was never planned to be possible.
@thingi
@thingi Жыл бұрын
Err, No. The shaders are still compiled beforehand in exactly the same way as all other GPU's. It's just that the memory allocation is done on a what's needed basis via hardware vs a software worst case scenario. Essentially at the deepest level any shader programs memory requirement defined by the compiler in software at compile time are ignored and the hardware decides instead. That's why no changes are required to any programs to run. In summary JIT hardware memory allocation is a completely different animal to JIT compiled software.
@rsr789
@rsr789 Жыл бұрын
Actually, JIT was being used even before then by the Japanese.
@Gnsdtc
@Gnsdtc Жыл бұрын
I love it when Snazzy has a new video up on big news days!
@TheEditorify
@TheEditorify Жыл бұрын
8 gb is unacceptable and non upgradable ssd overshadows carbon neutrality lmfao 2tb Samsung ssd is 100 usd
@snazzy
@snazzy Жыл бұрын
Agree
@parttimelarry
@parttimelarry Жыл бұрын
How did I not know about this channel? Love the extra level of detail and unique insights here.
@snazzy
@snazzy Жыл бұрын
Cheers, and welcome!
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 Жыл бұрын
downvote for Frankenstein's monster.......
@burhan7260
@burhan7260 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Which one is more powerful and faster, the MacBook Pro M3 Max or the Mac Studio M2 Ultra?
@icickeciak
@icickeciak Жыл бұрын
Very interesting insight into a topic that hardly anyone thinks about. I enjoyed it!
@djcochrane
@djcochrane Жыл бұрын
Thanks for walking us through this.
@offbrandDavid
@offbrandDavid Жыл бұрын
Commenting just for the algorithm! You've been putting out some really awesome stuff lately and I hope you start seeing the line go up!
@jakeconner2813
@jakeconner2813 Жыл бұрын
Love the comments on process node likely affecting pricing and availability. Great work
@hypeable
@hypeable Жыл бұрын
So many facts I didnt even consider about the M3 production that now make so much sense. I will definitely be pushing my audience to check out your video in my own M3 breakdown! Stay hyped!
@dhawalshah9580
@dhawalshah9580 Жыл бұрын
Only snazzy makes videos where we come to know what’s really important
@Delvis343
@Delvis343 Жыл бұрын
As always, the best video I’ve seen on this topic. Keep it up SnazzyLabs team!
@james_wheelz
@james_wheelz Жыл бұрын
apple seriously needs to put 16gb ram and 1tb stock. Every other pc at this price range all have that stock.
@stevevlahos1
@stevevlahos1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for always dissecting the crazy chip releases and making them digestible.
@HowdyFolksGaming
@HowdyFolksGaming Жыл бұрын
I was really bummed when I saw that it didn't support AV1 encoding. Decode is nice, and if Final Cut Pro gets updated to support playback and editing of AV1 files, it might be a nice-to-have. BUT, it's not enough for me to upgrade from M2 Max just yet.
@definingslawek4731
@definingslawek4731 Жыл бұрын
You're bummed out you don't have a reason to drop another 4 thousand dollars within a year? I'd be pretty happy :p
@HowdyFolksGaming
@HowdyFolksGaming Жыл бұрын
@@definingslawek4731 hahaha that’s fair reasoning 😂 I got my current MacBook “open box” from a retailer for a pretty good price, and it’s been great so far. AV1 was the only thing that I wanted to upgrade for, as I don’t want more CPU or GPU power, and with my workload, I won’t NEED either of those for a long while. But AV1 support would’ve reduced file sizes just that little bit more over HEVC. But you’re right! I’m fine waiting for M4 I guess 😂
@izak_fouad
@izak_fouad Жыл бұрын
Great coverage , Thanks Quinn ! 👍
@nosult3220
@nosult3220 Жыл бұрын
Being able to run LLMs locally is enough for me
@rpaulseymour
@rpaulseymour Жыл бұрын
Will dynamic caching improve ML models? I’m interested in running and custom training image generation. But, I don’t think I can go all out for the top end Max. More thinking 36GB M3 Pro 🤔
@sauronbaggins1833
@sauronbaggins1833 6 ай бұрын
I just purchased a full spec Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 Max 10 CPU, 32 GPU, 64GB, 2TB for 2.9K. Sealed out of the box. NOT REFURB. I'm blown away by how fast this thing is.
@uKoalele
@uKoalele Жыл бұрын
I really love the Quality and Look of your Videos. Do you mind sharing what camera and lens you use?
@AJ_UK_LIVE
@AJ_UK_LIVE Жыл бұрын
This is such an intelligent video. Thank you for continuing to differentiate yourself with your exceptional takes on the industry.
@samuelappiah8560
@samuelappiah8560 Жыл бұрын
Great content man! Your breakdowns are always concise and easy to understand.
@ciborggal3496
@ciborggal3496 Жыл бұрын
I currently have a 2016 MacBook Pro and its about time i upgraded. I am currently unsure if i should go for an M3 or an older model. Any thoughts?
@loglady79
@loglady79 Жыл бұрын
dude you’re the best. Amazing video. Nice work.
@kwhyle
@kwhyle Жыл бұрын
loving the lighting on this one
@stevensalas4605
@stevensalas4605 Жыл бұрын
Really clever mention on the JIT process! Super in DEPTH
@davidwebca
@davidwebca Жыл бұрын
So in your opinion @snazzy could buying an m2 max now that the prices will drop be a better choice while waiting for the next chip? 🤔
@StefanDietrichZRH
@StefanDietrichZRH Жыл бұрын
Great and differentiating coverage. Thank you!
@SiimKuusik
@SiimKuusik Жыл бұрын
The first minute of this video. WE GET IT YOU WENT TO MALAYSIA. You're a huge nanometer and process technologies nerd now.
@mrt.7146
@mrt.7146 Жыл бұрын
06:56 - classic Snazzy "The silicon insults" 🤣
@iCaveDave
@iCaveDave Жыл бұрын
A14 was not a year old when M1 arrived, it was introduced 2 months earlier at the iPhone 12 event.
@beesharp9503
@beesharp9503 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content quinn! Clear and concise, critical without being rude, and contextualizing parts of the industry and how they work together. Truly a great video.
@NBTJacklyn
@NBTJacklyn Жыл бұрын
Excited to watch this one
@snazzy
@snazzy Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jacklyn! 🙏
@ssaaffuu
@ssaaffuu Жыл бұрын
Love the background music
@ssaaffuu
@ssaaffuu Жыл бұрын
But the pros especially the new black one seem dope I’ll buy it next year
@Arcadium1177
@Arcadium1177 Жыл бұрын
super interesting breakdown on the chips! i always learn something new from your content
@arlencarlson
@arlencarlson Жыл бұрын
I like your background explanation on this. Well done!
@SixOThree
@SixOThree Жыл бұрын
Dude. Great preview card / thumbnail.
@KevwePatani
@KevwePatani Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this nuanced and detailed explainer as to what's happening behind the scenes of the M3 upgrade
@MrHacross
@MrHacross Жыл бұрын
We can always count on Snazzy to deliver "The Goods". Great video Snazz!
@chuuni6924
@chuuni6924 Жыл бұрын
I suspect you're misunderstanding Dynamic Caching. Given what they said about "local memory" or "on-chip memory" and it being allocated at compile-time, I suspect it has nothing with VRAM/Unified Memory to do, but rather with the on-GPU, per-execution-unit memory, or the same thing that nVidia calls "shared memory" and AMD calls "local data store". VRAM is usually *not* allocated at compile-time, but local memory demands is usually stated by the compiled shaders. That would also make more sense given that they speak of Dynamic Caching improving GPU utilization. Allocating VRAM in one way or another wouldn't be expected to affect utilization, but being able to dynamically allocate local memory would, since that could squeeze more threads into the same execution unit.
@andreas.abrahamsson
@andreas.abrahamsson Жыл бұрын
Awesome technical breakdown. Thank you!
@robertkeaney9905
@robertkeaney9905 Жыл бұрын
I personally think that the M3 iMacs are a sleeper hit Case and point, for 2300 dollars you can get an M3 Imac with: a 24 inch 4.5k Retina display, two thunder bolts/USB 4 ports, gigabit ethernet with touch ID, a magic mouse, 24 gb of RAM, and a 1 tb SSD. It's a solid offering.
@RichardBaileyrichoncode
@RichardBaileyrichoncode Жыл бұрын
Subscribed. And starting to watch tsmc tech more closely. Thanks for opening my eyes.
@EricPinho
@EricPinho Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 14" M2 pro in August, is the M3 pro worth upgrading?
@alecpulianas6919
@alecpulianas6919 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of the complicated chip nodes!
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