Snow Foams - The ULTIMATE In Depth Product Shootout

[@AndreasSchwarzinger]

Fantastic, cohesive, well thought out test! 👍👍👍 One aspect which wasn‘t mentioned nor recognized (or maybe I missed it) is material safety as well as some health and safety related aspects. Labocosmetica Primus 2.0 (I think you tested the first version) for example has a VDA class A certification, meaning it is an exceptionally safe product. On the other hand, Gtechniq W4 Citrus Foam is marketed as „ph neutral“. However, when you are searching for material safety data sheets for that product, you‘ll find some which state it has a pH value of 6, some say the pH value is between 5 and 8, and some don‘t state any pH value. Such inconsistencies are a huge red flag for me! Dodo Juice ( and Stjärnagloss) on the other hand are role models when it comes to making the MSDS of their products publicly available on their websites, even in different languages. It would have been interesting to see how the inclution of an additional points scheme including for example such aspects (e.g. availability of MSDS, the amount and severity of warning symbols or P / H sentences in the MSDS) would have changed the outcome.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

I did consider ranking on health and safety and MSDS etc, I even bought litmus paper to do PH testing. But then I didn't feel comfortable talking about that. After all, I'm no scientist, and as long as people aren't drinking these products or lathering them all over their body, they should be fine. Maybe in a future one

[@adrianlawrence7224]

Clearly a lot of work went in to this one and your unbiased approach was appreciated, otherwise we could have expected BH to win. As no doubt it would have done if we were tuned in the channel run by the big guy, the BH fanboy leader. Here's my real point: I think the manufacturers, and maybe KZbinrs also with their swipe tests, have caused us to forget why we started using foam. My reason was to soften and dislodge solid particles, essentially tiny bits of "rock", picked up during driving, especially in the rain. All in an attempt to avoid scratches and swirls, and it worked. The cheapest and most expensive all did the job. Not my go-to but I picked up 5 litre of Simonize SF in Costco for a tenner, it's perfect. Somehow "cleaning ability" has taken over. Why? We're gonna contact wash. You have to. Period. If I need a bit of extra bite from SF I have my cheap as chips Surfex ( see, I have no issues with BH, just the fanboys😂😂) love to know your thoughts.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed.... I guess the failed swipe test I wanted to see what it loosened... As you say, they aren't necessarily cleaning products, but rather soften and lift.... That said, in previous winters, I've been known to snow foam, dwell, rinse and walk away 🤣

[@chrisyoung5573]

One of the best reviews iv'e seen, congratulations. Must have taken you absolutely ages

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you 👍

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

Very good review this. Appreciated. With regards to readily available snow foams though, i wouldnt touch the Auto Glym or the Turtle Wax. Quick pop to Euro Car Parts and pick up a bottle of Autobrite Magifoam for me. Great cleaning, if not economically great.

[@jackmason2792]

Really enjoyed this review. Giving Jon and Pan a run for their money! Please can we have more of these? Appreciate the amount of work goes into making these videos with the research etc but good to have comparisons and like the breakdown you present

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thanks... There's a pre-wash video coming, and about to shoot a couple of others too

[@loboantonio2486]

This is what we can call an epic comparative! Awesome work,really impressive. Thumbs up from France!😀😀

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you... Get ready for the APC/Pre-wash video coming this week!

[@stevewilliams6191]

Great bit of testing Mat. Love these type of videos. Look forward to more. Thanks 👍

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you 👍

[@kevinmcg6747]

Thanks for doing this and I liked the twist at the end of removing the cost factor - interesting and I may have to try Stjarnagloss

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Definitely worth given them a try. Cracking brand tbh!

[@jackmason2792]

Really enjoyed this review. Giving Jon and Pan a run for their money! Please can we have more of these? Appreciate the amount of work goes into making these videos with the research etc but good to have comparisons and like the breakdown you present. Once again Mat, great video 👍🏼

[@simonmarsh5007]

There was a lot of work that went into sorting that out well done and well explained ,I think as a test point of view on the products you did a good job 👍

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you 👍

[@mrbadassmb]

Amazing video, subscribed and will be ordering sno because i want something that smells nice and cleans well

[@sunilraj7692]

Great video! Bilt Hamber includes instructions on the label for all types of washing.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Great point!

[@javigarcia3823]

Great work Matt.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@nickevans3190]

Great video but it would be very helpful if you could please put links in the description below for each product 😀

[@vadimyevdokymov7216]

Best video testing in youtube.

[@livinthedublife]

Have you tried Primus 2.0? And if you have how would that change your ranking?

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Unfortunately I haven't

[@nummie14]

Good work, not seen this level of content from yourself before, very much appreciate it! I'm sure it was no easy task. Keep it up... ;-)

[@TheDetailingSpace]

I've been putting it off for years, kinda never liked the ideas of picking winners and losers... But finally I decided it needed to be done... And it's not about who comes last, as they each have their own strengths.

[@tailtidy8185]

Great review. Appreciate your time for this indepth review👍

[@TheDetailingSpace]

I'm impressed you watched a 49minute video in as little as 18 minutes 🤣 Glad you found it useful though

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

Mat, thanks for your reviews. I will foam with the shampoo I am using at that time, rather maintenance wash or strip wash. No need to spend extra money if NOT needed, is my opinion.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

👍

[@hoornlazaani6406]

Nice comparison, one a side note; Primus is a prewash and not a snowfoam, NEVE is the dedicated snowfoam by Labocosmetica. Also, GSF is nowhere near 1:50, you reach a decent snowfoam by diluting it 1:10, that makes the price increase a lot.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

👍

[@pigeonpoo1823]

So much time and effort put in. Thank you for this. Given i can't snow foam (portable worx Hydroshot user here), I'm only interested in results from a sprayer, so BH it remains. Cheers

[@TheDetailingSpace]

No worries.... I'm also in the process of editing an APC/Pre Wash video, so maybe that might be more applicable for you 👍

[@ManojPatel-oo3zd]

Excellent review. Thank you

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@daviegraham9293]

Appreciate the tedious work required mate 👍🏻

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Haha, cheers 😁

[@Mogsy28uk]

nice testing Mat, appreciate the work and some good findings. IW Powerfoam needs to be included the next time you test foams, as its sugar based, same as BH.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you, and thanks for the heads up 👍

[@GavSloan]

I tried the gtechniq one a year or so ago and found it pretty useless. I tried the recommended dilution rate and varied this several times even doubling it at one point. Its cleaning power was so bad I just threw it away with half the bottle left. I won’t be going back to it.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Fair enough.... I find it's not as thick as I'd like but does clean OK... Which also was the result in this test...

[@fraserhobbs24]

found similar here, thought it could be my foam cannon so i tried another but same again, was quite disappointed with the gtechniq product, turtle wax pure wash which is cheaper and for more worked way better and i’m yet to finish my bottle of that before trying others

[@decker0373]

Yep, I have it and find it is very disappointing, interesting indeed

[@SparkleanAutos]

Yip, agreed, used it twice, wouldn't waste my time with a 3rd effort! Definitely didn't work for me

[@ThisOldDetailingDude]

Great breakdown comparison. I am not aware of GT available in USA at this time.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Me neither

[@p2k07]

Top quality review Mat. Love the fact that you took the pricing out. I just want to know what is best for my car not my wallet 😁

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Yeah, I thought some might appreciate that

[@BlutoandCo]

Like all things depends if own car or doing it as a business. The trade prices for 5l/25l help. Otherwise 1l is all you need for once a month/year use, and price dosnt really come into it.

[@clintonhewitt3454]

keep up the good work 👍👍😊

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thanks 👍

[@OldSchoolNI]

I found the original bilt hamber better than the touchless, although it migjt have been more to do with using purity X sealant at same time. Think i read somewhere that X can really grip the dirt. No idea if thats true.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thanks for that. I do have some auto foam, so will do a side by side comparison of the two

[@OldSchoolNI]

@@TheDetailingSpace thanks - nice review

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thanks

[@Zoranurai13]

Great video!

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thanks 👍

[@Tmp205]

Love that labo is included. I’ve got a few of their products, but hardly see any content. Big fan of their carbon remover.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you 👍

[@RCdetails203]

I love Gtechniq Citrus Foam….as far as PH Neutral pre washes go I find it cleans better then most, I use it mostly on ceramic coated vehicles and use higher PH snow foams on non coated vehicles….I always do 50 ml of citrus foam and 500 ml of water and it always foams a lot thicker for me then it did for you I’ve seen other people have the same issue with the foam being runny must just depend on your pressure washer and foam cannon I use the Mtm cannon with 1.10 orifice and a 1.2 gpm 1800 max psi pressure washer….Primus foams a lot better for me too but I think you were using Primus I’ve only used Primus 2.0….with that being said I don’t know about the original Primus but Primus 2.0 (PH of around 12-13 according to my PH strips) has alot more cleaning power then citrus foam, still love citrus foam though.. I’ve tried adding 25 ml of gtechniq citrus apc to it before and that was a killer combo too….my favorite alkaline snow foams are Primus 2.0, Car Pro Lift and Maniac Line Foam Gun Pre Wash which is very similar to Primus 2.0 (makes sense since they are both MaFra products and have about the same PH level)

[@TheDetailingSpace]

I use a kranzle 2160 TS set to around 1800-2000 psi,

[@RCdetails203]

@@TheDetailingSpace what size orifice on your foam cannon ? I’ve always had to switch my cannons to 1.10 they always came with bigger

[@KojakKronos]

With respect, there were so many things wrong with this video, too many to go through here. But one obvious mistake was GSF, if you read the instructions carefully you were using the dilution instructions for a foam sprayer (e.g. pump foam sprayer). It does mention that it can be used via a foam cannon but doesn't give you instructions for that, but you can infer from the foam sprayer instructions that you should be aiming for up to 2% PIR.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

OK, in which case that should be made clearer.... However, it did do OK considering the dilution I used. So not all bad.

[@KojakKronos]

@@TheDetailingSpace To be fair when GSF first came to prominance all the other youtubers made the same mistake failing to read the instructions completely. But it does say instructions are for snow sprayer (be it trigger or pump foam spayer), and then after the handwash instructions it says "perfectly suitable for application using a foam gun". I find it slightly ironic that car detailers, whose raison d'etre is to focus on the details, missed that particular detail! Anyway most recommended upping of the dosage quite significantly until they got a foam they preferred (Jon settled on 50ml, Matt something like 170ml). PIR is more important for acidic/alkali products, but as GSF is ph neutral and doesn't contain caustic ingredients, it should be safe to run at any PIR level until you get the level of foaming you desire.

[@TheM5Dog]

​@@KojakKronosdo you piss on people's chips professionally or is this more of a pastime for you?

[@KojakKronos]

​@@TheM5DogI don't understand how you make the connection between me pointing out a mistake that many KZbin detailers have fallen foul of, and my job as a chippy.

[@79blustone]

PIR is the best way the get the best out of the product for your jet wash/ snowfoamer. A bespoke measurement will help save money and get the best results more then a generic ratio IMO.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Agreed 👍

[@chriscuthbertson]

Great video.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Thank you

[@joeschmoe6908]

Last time I checked Garage Therapy is totally unavailable in America.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

That's a shame

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Nice review, but we don't get Autoglym here.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Cheers.... Yeah, didn't think it'd be available out2of Europe tbh.

[@robsmith7430]

Autobrite magifoam for me you need about 20 ml per litre of water that’s value for money

[@TheDetailingSpace]

So similar to Koch Chemie then?

[@davida7713]

It’s absolutely garbage . Thick shaving foam with next to no cleaning ability . Waste of time & money

[@robsmith7430]

@@davida7713 your using it wrong if you find that

[@BrianW1612]

1:10 is 45ml, not 50ml (500ml).

[@TheDetailingSpace]

Yeah, but it's not.... Hear me out... Multiple 1 x 50, what do you get? 50.... No do the same on the other side! It's a ratio... It's not 1 INTO 10, it's 1 part X PLUS 10 parts Y

[@BrianW1612]

1:10 is a ratio. 1 part to 10 parts, 11 parts total. 1 x 50 is 50ml, 1 x 500 is 500ml. It's still 550ml total, not the 500ml you stated in the video so if your doing 50ml topped up to the 500ml mark like you stated, that's 1:9, not 1:10. It's very simple maths & just googling it explains it exactly how I just have also.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

That's what I said. And how I mixed them.... I don't get the argument then as we both think the same. I always mix 1:10 products as 50ml product plus 500ml water. It's also why I never make a litre. Despite what a lot of companies say on socials, they'll say their product is 1:10 and to add 100ml to your lance then top up with water.... Consider most lances are 1 litre, that'd be a 1:9 mixture.... But yes, it's 50ml product, plus 500ml water. Apologies if I didn't say that clear enough.

[@BrianW1612]

I might have heard wrong mate but I was sure you said topped to the 500ml mark, as opposed to with 500ml of water. Maybe just a communication error, enjoying the video regardless although some of the criteria such as foam/cling & user experience are pointless imo. Looking forward to the cleaning results section, that's what really matters 👌

[@TheDetailingSpace]

@BrianW1612 in the spray bottles I did, but that's because I worked those back to their actual PIR (in case it's not obvious, I'm bit of a math nerd too 🤣)

[@chriscuthbertson]

ValetPro more expensive than Labo? Mental.... just mental.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

You mean on cost per wash?

[@chriscuthbertson]

@@TheDetailingSpace Yep.

[@TheDetailingSpace]

It's the high dilution rate that let's it down tbh.... Not sure why it has to be that high! I have their other foams too, and think they're similar.

[@shane21882]

And i use fairy liquid in my snow foam 🫣 should of put that in the review

[@TheDetailingSpace]

🤣

[@shane21882]

Would you use this in the bucket and sponge stage as well?​@@TheDetailingSpace

[@TheDetailingSpace]

@shane21882 personally no... But you can leave it on whilst washing the car