Snow Plow Extra

[@SteveH-TN]

Thanks for sharing this video, incredible layout and operation

[@danielgauthier33]

That's so cool, it's a dream of mine to have a set up simular to yours. We always see summer on models and I thought I was the only one that though it would be cool to have a set up for winter , awsome bud .

[@kouroshhp_2619]

am i the only one who finds this satisfying?

[@johnkabel285]

Back in the late '70s we had a lake-effect storm off Lake Huron into Southwestern Ontario which built up real snow on the same scale as that near the end of your video. A diesel pusher tried so hard with a plow that the plow stuck, and flipped forward over its blade. Complete wreck on top of a blocked line. I have not been able to find a copy. It was in the Lucan or Granton area, north of London, ON. Your video is so realistic, so cool!

[@HarrisPropertyMaintenance]

I feel like way back in the day something similar happened to a old steam train and thus the rotary blower was born

[@evanstauffer4470]

I've seen a video of that accident. It was included at the end of a Greg Scholl video on CN and CP snow plows (ploughs). He made a couple of plow videos and I don't remember the video name but I'm sure you can find it on his web site.

[@MegaSnow121]

Fun and impressive to watch. What an amazing model train. Looks like a fantastic setup.

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

I love my 0 Gage rotary snow plow. If I had a layout up north on the outside like I did when I was a kid it would come in really handy.

[@bcgrittner]

Pretty cool. Yes, it’s not unusual to see multiple locomotives pushing snow removal equipment. Saw my first Shay, in real world, at the Roaring Camp & Big Trees Narrow Gauge Railroad in Felton, CA in 1967. Great ride- fascinating locomotive. Go there.

[@dennisjones8991]

Adding a couple of ounces over each truck will greatly enhance tractive effort. If you do add weight, you may end up having to add some weight to the plow to keep it on the tracks. Nicely done!!

[@WildWillie12065]

Actually, the plow has 5 pounds (!) of lead teletype weights inside. Hence the need for ball bearing trucks.

[@merrimacksacoproductions4497]

This might be one of the greatest things I've ever seen a model train, the fact that it actually works is incredible.

[@WildWillie12065]

The Merrimack Railfan Thanks!

[@Landsend-Railroad]

I am surprised the Bachmann Shay performed as well as it did. By the way for an elevated railway it's well done. You did some serious construction work.

[@jenngill7772]

I have to ask, no disrespect intended, why would you be surprised that a Shay would do well in a low speed/ high torque situation? They were the locomotive of choice for most of the mountain logging operations in the Pacific Northwest because they had all wheel drive, had 3 cylinders pushing on 6 small wheels thru a worm-drive (hypoid) gear set, and he has 5# of lead holding those trucks to the rails. Even though I have no proof of it, I believe he probably has rubber on the drivers to get even more grip, as most do in icy/ slippery conditions. Given all that background, I’m left curious as to why you’re surprised it did so well? Please elaborate, I would appreciate the explanation and advice you offer: my personal preference for a powerhouse loco would be (in any order): Climax, Shay, Cli-Shay, Hyster, Big Freakin Boy! 😂 JK on the BB: no one could afford to feed that beast in today’s financial market! 😮

[@Landsend-Railroad]

@@jenngill7772 You are quite right in most of what you say. The Shay, or for that matter all geared locos have inherently more power considering their weight. True, all wheels are driven, and there is no dead weight on none-driven axles. By he way, none of the full sized geared locos have a worm drive. Very seldom were hypoid gears used. All Shays I have ever seen use straight bevel gears. They were in these early days easier to produce. What you did not mention was the fact, that most geared locos had a reduction ratio, mostly 1 to 2 from the drive shafts to the driven axles. That would give them a power gain and a speed loss of the same ratio. No locomotive can give more pulling power on the hook than the wheels can deliver though the weight they carry and their resulting friction on the rail. While the models often have rubber treads on some driven wheels, this technique was never used on the full sized locos. The rubber simply would not last long. And the advantage is lost in winter conditions anyways, because rubber hardens at very low temperatures. Winter tires on cars use specially formulated rubber to reduce this phenomena. My comment and surprise were strictly levelled at this particular Shay model. It is relatively light for it's size. Bachmann did not build this model to face the rigors of heavy duty. The dive gear had some issues.

[@jenngill7772]

@ perfect! Thanks for the answer. I’m new to factory built hobby trains; my late ex grandfather in law built live steam engines from plans in Live Steam Magazine. That’s where I read the articles by Kozo Hiroka (I’m wrong on the name, but close), on the Shay, Climax and Hyster. I thought they were worm drive in this video because of the right-angle input, but now that you say it, I do remember they reminded me of a rear end third member (Ring & Pinion style, even if straight cut) when I looked at the plans, lo-so many years ago. 😰 I knew the rubber was only on scale models, not on prototypes, but I did figure it would help in this case. Thanks for reminding me that rubber hates the cold. I had no idea about the Bachmann Shay’s having gear drive issues. Would that be something that could be fixed with a mini lathe/ mill and some bronze stock? 🤔 Anyway, thanks again for the meaningful response. These days, on KZbin, most comments are berating, rude or downright offensive. I appreciate it when someone actually debates (or just discusses without debating) an issue civilly. Have a great new years. 😊

[@Landsend-Railroad]

@@jenngill7772 I suppose your name is Jennifer. Hi Jennifer. It is somewhat rare that a lady has so much knowledge of trains and specially model trains. By the way his name is Kozo Hiraoka, you were close. I too have one of his books. Building the Shay. I used his detailed descriptions and drawings to build a Shay loco, but not in his large scale 3/4 scale. Mine is meant for the G scale, 45 mm track. I chose a scale of 1:24. Maybe in the near future I will make a short video of the building process and the end result. Because I take great care in the making of the model, I did not paint it, so one can better see the clean workmanship, especially the process of soldering. About the Bachmann Shay: The biggest problem in the earlier models were some insulating discs that aged, they became hard and crumbled. A short was the result. The later built series had that issue corrected. You are right about some of the comments. They are occasionally rude and insulting. I developed the habit of simply ignoring them. As one person commented: They must be feeling very insecure, intimidated and jealous when they see what others have accomplished. I feel sorry for them. Have a great New Year and best wishes to you.

[@glnassa5589]

It's really an awesome scenic journey, albeit a short one. Much appreciated for all your time, efforts and money in sharing this spectacular video. Many thanks. Best regards, Nassa

[@suzylarry1]

that was some pushing power ! in full size , that would be a miracle ! and then to stay on the tracks

[@josephwashington2837]

I hate to get all mushy, but the moment I started watching this video (and the outstanding Sound) I remembered my Dad, and remembered that had it not been for him I never would have known about trains, or developed the love and appreciation for trains, this layout would have made made him smile that smile that said to my brother and I, "Daddy's happy"...miss him so...

[@brando_gaming249]

Much? 😭

[@npo64]

Joseph Washington It's great you you've got those memories of your dad!

[@hilham89]

Joseph Washington I know what you mean man, even though I was younger when my grandpa got me into trains I still love them today, he is no longer with us but I'm glad that I knew him and spent time with him while he was with us. R.I.P. Papa. If it wasn't for him I would have never even been on a train.

[@rainalooschen6501]

Joseph Washington DC

[@herlingmonangin4801]

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[@bobbiggs5660]

The little engine that could, good try the snow was just to much! Enjoy you trains and all the hard work that was put into an awesome display! 🚂

[@Chris9017]

That has to be the most beautiful sound for a shay I have ever heard. I love the sound of the start up chugs to it sounding like its going 80 mph when it's only going 10. Awesome locomotive man. Beats a Phoenix and really puts the Tsunami shay sound to shame.

[@WildWillie12065]

I should check comments more often...The sound is from a QSI Titan decoder. It is actually even better now that I have updated the sound file from the Q2-FX version which comes with the board to the Q3-ET version.

[@mjtunstall1976]

hope your wife don't mind building those tracks everywhere? looking good!

[@sirrliv]

Thinking about it, a shay might be the optimal type of steam locomotive for snow plowing. They may be slow, but with small driving wheels, all-wheel power, and their geared transmission that makes wheelslip almost impossible, they've definitely got the raw brute strength to shove almost any amount of snow aside. Even better if they're given a rotary snowplow as they're less hampered by low speed operations than convention rod-type engines. If the opportunity presents itself to try again next winter, one trick I've heard used on real snowplows is to coat them in diesel fuel (for a scale model like this cooking oil should suffice) so that snow won't stick to the plow.

[@nickbellinger1047]

good job WildWillie you might have to build an OY .....lol

[@richardpardo828]

Love your plow, put mine on a gondola hasnt run yet.

[@oldkokitsum4022]

Great to see a Shay doing what it should. I can only afford to look at pictures of one. LOL Nice... I got to ride in the cab of the Shay in Cass W.Va.1970's when I was a lad.

[@gunrunner7224]

Impressive smart move with the shays those guys have power is spades.

[@robertcates4066]

Neat setup, track must be real long, neat video Thank you for posting

[@WildWillie12065]

The main oval is 70 feet long, with 16 foot diameter curves, 156 feet total for the outer loop.

[@JB91710]

That was so cool when I realized that it was a miniature. (I will Not call it a Toy!) That engine must be very heavy as I would think the wheels would just spin when it hit that heavy snow.

[@austinmiller3497]

Wow that is so neat awesome video

[@swivelhere4207]

The shay engine was very good choice,the gearing makes for a powerful engine that can plow to a couple of pounds of snoe

[@mikehorb9485]

Maybe run a slightly longer train so that at full speed it gathers more momentum and inertia. That combined with a slightly longer and thinner plow blade will do crazy things. But that plow was awesome for that setup.

[@johnsGgauge]

Looked like a whole lot of fun!!!

[@markmcwilliams2461]

I think you need a rotary blower to clear that much snow !

[@522Dusty]

That is amazing. I am surprised it didn't jump the track when backing up and ramming the snow.

[@WildWillie12065]

The plow has 5 pounds of lead in it to keep it on the tracks. I had to install ball-bearing trucks to carry the weight.

[@FOEHMR0024]

Awesome setup!

[@bradolsen9981]

That is the cutest little train so darn cute

[@waynebarnett746]

Lol, at first I thought this was real. Love it ,,,

[@spencergreenhill7728]

In my town we have a Shay and a snowplow like that.we are quite lucky.

[@scottmcgirl5187]

That was Awesome more Power !!! Do u have a snow blower in that scale? That would be cool.

[@fabrizioverrua4116]

You are great man!

[@steveyoung3245]

I thought it was a real train until I seen the trees,very nice.

[@amjkodaz]

Subbed! Awesome little railroad

[@curlyjoe4234]

Where i live the plow is built on a tanker car so they can fill it with water if they need more weight.

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

Imagine if all g-gauge stuff with diecast you have no problems plowing through that snow

[@johnrettig1880]

What actually happened here is that your crew ran into some hard pack snow . That's a problem you'll get in higher elevations . On the good side your crew and plow didn't run into hard pack that's turned into hard pack ice , at that point your crew would need to breakout the TNT , I'd say two sticks should do it and about halfway up so the track won't get damaged . Use a pike that you can heat up in the firebox to melt the prep work to set the TNT . So good luck . PS. I'd back the train about 100 ft . before you set it off .

[@matthewcrews4034]

Goos job i thought is was a full size train for a min there awsome

[@WildWillie12065]

Matthew Crews Thanks!

[@williamsquires3070]

At full bore, that sounded like a (real) SD-40 at run 8!

[@janettehill8544]

You need to wax the plow blade up some. The snow won't stick to it as easily.

[@aidand4013]

Did you add any weight to the caboose before you put the plow on the front of it ?

[@TheRailroadDiplomat]

I like that you used a Shay gear engine

[@Art-jl6pt]

Put firecrackers in the big mound next vid.cool trip!

[@feeberizer]

Looks like you need a rotary snowplow for the deep stuff....

[@Ducknell]

Maybe spray a bit of pam cooking spray on plow so snow doesn't stick to plow face?Just a idea.

[@josephwashington2837]

I love this soooo much!

[@WildWillie12065]

Here in upstate NY, we're getting buried with snow -- 12" so far and it's predicted to go all day tomorrow...! Let's see... That would be 22.5 scale feet of snow already! I don't think that plow will cut it by the end of this storm...

[@WildWillie12065]

We ultimately got an official 27.2 inches of snow -- just over 51 scale feet of snow !!!! Needless to say, the GC&E maintenance crews stayed in the bunkhouse!

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

Great video. ☺️ I just subscribed to ur channel. ☺️

[@WildWillie12065]

Yes, it has on-board batteries and radio remote controlled

[@Amselbahner]

very nice, Abo.

[@milesbrown8016]

This is so cool

[@M_Duhamel]

Interesting how this video ended in my feed after watching vids of big rotary blowers and plows on the real thing at Donner pass etc. Assuming this scale train is made of much less dense materials than a real iron and steel train, I’d be curious how this beautiful scale model train compares scale wise in weight to the real thing? For the part at the end when it is quickly stopped by the deep snow it would be interesting to see how it might perform if somehow it could be weighted down to have a scale level of kinetic energy and momentum of a real freight train hitting big drifts.

[@WildWillie12065]

Interesting question... The plow blade is plastic, as is the locomotive body. To keep the plow on the rails, I added 5 pounds of lead weight and installed ball bearing trucks to carry the extra weight. The Shay locomotive has 3 power trucks - all wheels driven - so it gets good traction. I have 3 more Shays - another 3-truck and two 2-truck Shays. If I hooked them all up, I could have quite a show...

[@markmcfrederick8932]

I think I can. I think I can. I think I can!! I think I'd use a windshield scraper or broom or shovel to "manually" assist. It's like a derailment; sometimes you just have to pick it up and put it back on the track.

[@WildWillie12065]

The toughest part is keeping the radio transmitter warm. I actually had to stop when the transmitter suddenly quit. The LCD display goes dark and you have to pull the batteries to 'un-freeze' it.

[@dues_vult9897]

At first i thought i was a real train lol

[@mnnwdr]

luckybatcher so you wasnt a real train?

[@danila2811]

your new o0

[@sallyking8102]

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[@forrestcreek1598]

Did they rotary snow blowers yet? He could have blown it to the side of the track to get the 13’ (scaled) off the tracks. Impressive video! Thank you for posting it!

[@SgtJoeSmith]

Forrest Creek yeah I've seen rotary blowers for trains this size

[@billyboy321]

I thought that the train was a real sized train at the start lol

[@ChillFrost]

Dream toys: train, ships, naval fleet, airplanes

[@12345pz]

what kind of track should i use for outdoor

[@WildWillie12065]

If you plan to use track power, you either want brass or stainless steel. SS is more expensive, but doesn't need cleaning as often, if ever. My railroad uses on-board batteries and radio remote control, so track cleaning is not a problem. Therefore I opted for aluminum, which is about half the cost of brass.

[@gerrard1144]

this is so satisfying

[@dwightarnold6980]

Very Cool

[@kelvintorrence5994]

Nice job once again I thought it was real.

[@douglaskirk2543]

How about a scale snowblower up front? Thanks for the view, could imagine the full size version doing that . . .

[@rva1945]

Is it hard to maintain those outdoors rails in working order?

[@JaedenBettencourt]

Where did you get the shay

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

Watch it you don't want to get stuck in the snow up in the mountains like to see if San Francisco did for a week

[@awildjared1396]

During the scenes before 3:07, you may as well have grabbed a rotary plow.

[@MrSilverballmania]

Great video

[@raymondj8768]

cool video dude . ill bet it took forever to build that track !

[@WildWillie12065]

That video was made when I only had a single-track main line completed. I have laid a lot of track since then and I still have a lot to go… kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2rEaoegh8esjZY kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2rEaoegh8esjZY

[@p6355]

I wonder why the model is not short circuit because of the snow.

[@WildWillie12065]

P Sk Power is from on-board batteries, tracks are not powered

[@p6355]

WildWillie12065 Thank you very much for replying me. It's look like a real train great model.

[@larrygwinn6649]

Hi, I love your trains and set up. How does a person get started or find systems. Thanks

[@WildWillie12065]

Your best resource is Kalmbach's 'Garden Railways' magazine. There are a lot of articles in there giving advice and ideas. To keep costs down, I bought nearly all my locomotives and rolling stock on eBay. I got very good at spotting the auctions that weren't being actively watched. Since my railroad is outdoors, and I didn't want to a) run power to the railroad and b) spend a lot of time cleaning the tracks for good electrical contact, all my locomotives have on-board rechargeable batteries and radio remote controls. And, since the tracks weren't electrified, I saved a lot of money by buying aluminum rail - about half the price of brass. One thing I would NOT recommend is to make your own ties out of cedar boards, ripped and cut on a table saw then hand-spiking the rails. The spikes push up out of the ties every winter/spring...

[@jenngill7772]

@@WildWillie12065 just a thought, but what about “biting” the spikes with a set of side cutters to make barbs when you reset them? Almost like the serrated nails used for paneling, for the same reason. Just a thought…

[@WildWillie12065]

@jenngill7772 Not a bad idea at all! It'll be time-consuming, but anything I do to fix it will be... Thanks for the thought!

[@rollingcoal9500]

So cool

[@sarajanesmith3892]

You are wise to use the wedge not the rotary snow blower!

[@timgreen4137]

Some of us just have too much fun.😊

[@henryshaw2697]

Operator had skill note the 3blast of the horn to single reverse

[@stevencooper2464]

Good video, but you should have sent out the rotary plow for that much snow...especially when the snow flakes are the size of golf balls. 8-)

[@hilham89]

Do you have a rotary you can put in there of not yet one of those and see if it might help in the thicker parts of the snow. I am new to your channel so I haven't seen what all you have yet

[@stevek8829]

Ya need an additional engine. Snow plows are so extra realistic, the train can actually do work. PS. Great sound dubbing.

[@WildWillie12065]

No sound dubbing at all... That's a QSI Titan power/sound decoder with 2 speakers! The sound was recorded live.

[@flyerbob124]

Is that a shay engine?

[@WildWillie12065]

Yup - a 3-truck Shay, all wheels driven w/ one motor per truck. Since I now have a 2nd 3-truck Shay and a pair of 2-truck Shays, I need to plow some snow with a four-Shay lash-up one of these days... 8-O

[@justinmyslive4108]

Looks like you could have used a rotary at the end

[@greggarner4477]

I like alot!

[@gunslingr45]

I want to rob that train!!! Well dang! Reckon I'm going to need a snow shovel if I do.

[@paradiseroad6405]

...time to call out the rotary there at the end...

[@WildWillie12065]

Yup! That may be a project for this winter...

[@chrisripplinger]

Spray some Pam on that blade. It should help.

[@tylerlevesque9491]

if it had more weight to the train and a 2nd engine i could of worked better. up in canada most of this type of plowing for trains were I am are at least 2 engine that I know of or 4 with a train load

[@philipasanchez5445]

Good evening. ln watching your 3 truck Shay cutting through the snow is Awesome. I've seen 2 SP GP-9's that can't do what your Shay can accomplish. However I'm seeing snow sticking to the Wedge which wouldn't happen so much if you Spray Teflon on the Wedge. But that's only a "Suggestion" "Try it you might Like it" ! {:

[@WildWillie12065]

Good idea!

[@philipasanchez5445]

Thank you.. I've been modeling for 52 yrs. now and I'm full of idea........WidWillie12065. Hopefully this will help you out.

[@icecreamsundae1038]

First, wouldn't a leaf blower be WAY FASTER? And second, how do you plan on finishing construction of that deck when you got your toys strewn all over it?

[@WildWillie12065]

Quicker? Yes But not as much fun...

[@WildWillie12065]

If, by 'deck', you mean the table work that the train is running on, that is the outdoor layout, and that's all I plan to do. I'm not into scenery, just operation and sound. The 1:1 scale trees are the only scenery I will have.

[@spencergreenhill7728]

So often people find fault with another person's work when they don't know what they're talking about. It is a very nice layout. Congratulations!!

[@Chris9017]

Probably could have used a second engine to help out with the banks.

[@WildWillie12065]

I have 2 more 2-truck Shays which I used for an earlier test run. This lash-up gives me 7 power trucks: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raqZhmOrqKtlf80

[@catman13131313]

neat, do a video with 2 or 3 engines plowing

[@barneyruble7013]

hello from Australia : might you bring forward the splitting edge ..... i think you should give it a try ... or take out it's curved shape .... any who

[@christopherli135]

Not sure if it will work but next time try using 2 locomotives and see if it will still get stuck...

[@fredfrederickson]

Try some WD 40 on the plow for next time

[@r.c.r.rproductions8462]

3 words for you : high. speed. plowing.

[@AGSGuy]

Is the engine Battery Powered?

[@WildWillie12065]

Yes - on-board batteries and radio remote control. QSI Titan power/sound decoder

[@19bug66]

can you send some pics of your snow plow? I would like to build one.

[@WildWillie12065]

I should check comments more often... If you're still interested, I'll put together a video slide show of what I did (I took lots of pictures...)

[@WildWillie12065]

OK - I did it anyway: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3rMl6KlaKd7g7c

[@mjp29]

Too Kewl!

[@jeffdemition2308]

there are other type of snow plow

[@lanksterprice]

need 2 motors for the push..

[@анначад-ы6м]

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