Snowrunner International Fleetstar vs White Western Star | Best Heavy Duty Truck

[@Jonas-fm9xj]

I just love these older rigs in snowrunner. They look so cool when they are driving.

[@AndrewSmith-rf8pi]

And they sound good too.

[@williamansell2422]

I'm gonna be honest, I was not prepared for when the western Star used its horn for the first time. Hearing that annoying OG mudrunner horn is almost nostalgic

[@unclebobsbrokenfordf2508]

Ik

[@evobsm2328]

Just be glad you cant spam it anymore XD

[@zarekbeck3358]

@@evobsm2328 but spamming was the fun thing about it

[@Frek77]

I really like the inclusion of the stability test.

[@crocettipwa2792]

Frek77 same here

[@elldarion91]

yes it's ok but it can be broken because of a speed difference

[@iqbalnash5748]

@@elldarion91 could be solved if he put both vehicles in high gear. But then again, going fast on those bridges isn't the brightest idea. You could argue to put both vehicles in low+, but some vehicles doesn't have that option.

[@evanfrechette1256]

Frek77 nice

[@wrecklass]

I very much agree. I understand it's harder to test because driver input comes into play which can change from run to run. Still I'd love to see tests that compare a trucks stability between setups. Raised suspension vs Stock, for instance. Stock Scout 800 vs Scout 800 with roof rack and all that fuel load as another example. Either way, props to @SD1One for the work he's been doing.

[@TheKincognito]

an advantage of the Fleetstar is that it can mount a small Crane, a Flatbed and haul Trailers at the same Time. the WWS can't do that. i own both, mostly because i love the look of these Trucks

[@zocca0134]

Exactly! I think it should also be mentioned, as it's not a small advantage.

[@panther-nk2hn]

That must work with the Flatbed and not the Sideboard bed, because I've tried hauling trailers with crane and sideboard bed and it doesn't work. The bed hangs off the back of the truck.

[@Gazbeard]

@@panther-nk2hn The sideboard bed and crane is my default fit on the International, and I've pulled everything from fuel and repair trailers to log trailers with it ... across most terrains.

[@nicholasbrown7068]

My father had 4 2070A Fleetstar's back in the 80's. Two red and one white tandem's with Barko pulp loaders. The fourth 2070A had an identical paint scheme to the one shown in this video, that particular truck had the third axle with a Barko loader as well. The truck at first had the loader mounted at the rear of the frame, but after awhile was switched to mounted behind the cab.

[@joelmulder]

Literally took me 6 hours to drag that damn things out of the river today to the garage today. Better be worth it.

[@kylecope4412]

Holy crap! Just type it up the hill

[@joelmulder]

Kyle Cope went up the hill, got totally stuck, then had to get a different truck and go around the long way South East. The wheals on that thing were spinning but it wasn’t fuck all. Like dragging 2 tons of dead weight across a lake and up a hill.

[@camdenweirich]

same I got stuck on the rocks and am currently trying to deal with it

[@camdenweirich]

if you bring a van body addon and some fuel and repair it so when you winch it, it will also spin its tires

[@joelmulder]

Worst part is, I’m not even using it yet because the fleet star is better with it’s current unlocked upgrades 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@themediocretellamechress9323]

I found that the international has a bit of an issue hauling trailers because of the shape of its frame but you get it so early in the game that it's invaluable until you unlock the western star. Despite all its quirks it's earned itself a special place in my heart, But that difference in tire size really does change the game 45 versus 47 what a big difference 2 inches makes.....that's what she said.

[@waynereibsome]

I didn’t get it till after I had a few of the better vehicles because of exploring and doing Alaska first mainly then Russia.

[@SD1ONE]

@Luke Pekarek In dam map, and funny part is that you need to rescue it and I did it with my fleetstar...So Fleetstar saved western star.

[@MrProlantern]

The western star was a bitch to get out of the area it was in even in a paystar

[@sheisnotmine_s2]

@@SD1ONE hi man how many GB do you spend for this game

[@diegou.6797]

@@sheisnotmine_s2 about 40 I think

[@deathtrooper199]

fleetstar: Who are you? Western star: I'm you but chonky

[@leeproffitt8676]

john tanker idk why but I love the word chonky and the normal chunky😂😂

[@phritza]

The biggest factor that makes me choose the WWS is the stability. I've had the IS flip way too many times and rarely on the WWS.

[@smasher3261]

IS?

[@Gazbeard]

I found the reverse - the WesternStar carrying medium logs is one of the tippiest trucks in the game, but early game it's the only truck viable for a medium log bed and medium log trailer - you have to use the winch a lot (sideways) to prevent tipping.

[@Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10]

Wtf is IS

[@borasackesen]

@@Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10 probably he said International fleetStar to compare the trucks as they both have "Star" in their names

[@brooksrownd2275]

4:50 the horn honking blows over the 55 gallon drum :D

[@lucid3715]

The drum got spooked.

[@baronvonchud403]

Fleetstar has advantage of equipping flatbed and loading crane while still being able to pull a trailer. Whitestar isn't long enough to do that.

[@The_Black_Knight]

Correct!

[@johnnyebertz279]

And that's why I love that ol'workhorse of mine. She does everything I need and asks for more.

[@thehutt2]

Absolutley! I was going to say this. Which is why the Fleetstar wins for me its my side truck which is most definitely used along with the other 2 offroad, 2 scouts and the P12 AWD 👍🏼 Beast

[@radieroslaw]

Which truck offers similar feature to Fleetstar in this regard?

[@johnnyebertz279]

@@radieroslaw It's that red twin steer one you can buy. Can't recall the name. Point is the the fleetstar is one of a handful of trucks that can do that. And she doesn't get recognition for it. Because honestly it might be a tad slower than others. But I've never gotten it stuck in Michigan after fully upgraded.

[@roentertainment7058]

I love how the international looks, honestly I like it more than the white western star, but hey this is just my opinion, they are both great.

[@reyy86]

Are you initial d fans

[@roentertainment7058]

@@reyy86 Yeah.

[@roentertainment7058]

@@karkovb1522 I like both of them, I just prefer the international :p

[@ubjjhuhbkbhukbbukbbukbuk2637]

International looks a bit caveman made to me with that shape Lol

[@NiklasAdv]

fleetstar is my fav old timer in this game, its just simple and beautiful.

[@elijahsellers3727]

I'm glad to see the Fleetstar does so well, since it's free at the garage. Good to know it has such potential

[@steyn1775]

It's great to see you post snowrunner content just like you used to post Mudrunner content!

[@blakeszymanski3884]

One of the best content creators around

[@CouchMan88]

I have been playing SnowRunner alot lately and just had to come here to comment the White Western Star is a beast. Underrated truck. It's a heavy duty but is almost an off-road truck with its capability and good stability.

[@fernandoi3389]

Have the same experience , WWS is my main truck and the international is my support vehicle. WWS is a very underrated truck.

[@orianhullinger7999]

Pacific P12 vs P16 would be cool. Been watching the channel since the early mudrunner days, love it!!

[@imanidiot8347]

I’d recommend navistar vs tayga. Also I think that the stability test is a good idea

[@gemizu4874]

Tayga has the best looking mud wheels and tyres in the game, i wish more had that option, I went to taymr just to rescue it and brought it back to the USA, 1 more level and i can put the crazy fucking mud tyres on it.

[@scoobytruck3r315]

@@gemizu4874 If you're on Xbox I'll help you

[@ravenor124]

The tayga is the most capable multipurpose truck in the game,

[@owenbernard8397]

@@gemizu4874 same here been tryna do that for a while. Looks like monster truck tires

[@samparnell617]

Yeah the tayga for me has been my go to.almost regret getting it so early as I feel it's almost superior in its class untill later on in the game

[@OttosTheName]

Fleetstar will always stay in my garage as it pulled me through Michigan where it did 90% of tasks, but the WWS is definitely an upgrade. Chassis on the Fleetstar is too long for Semi Trailers, but it can use crane + bed + trailer, so for certain missions it's still super useful.

[@vicky53101]

Moral of the story: the bigger tires the more easier and quicker drive!

[@Hulivilivoo]

Also would be nice if he took mud tires :D

[@lewisarcher3916]

I learnt that the hard way with the 6900 twinsteer in Alaska doing a 4 crate load of service parts for the oil drilling team near the port.

[@The_Black_Knight]

The Western Star has both a wider wheelbase and longer frame (not covered), it is not just about tires. 25 year+ veteran offroad experienced driver

[@lewisarcher3916]

The Black Knight is managed to find the lift kit and I was using the 55 inch all terrain tires since those were the most advanced ones a could use at the time it probably was because of the length that kept getting me hung up and having to use my winch for the deepest muddy areas, I’ve got the whole manoeuvring with long or wide vehicles routine worked out. It’s just finding out which vehicles work best and where to use them now. Plus it’s the first spin tyres simulator I’ve played since I’m on ps4 so I’m all ears on advise.

[@TheCreedence101]

Flips easier depending on height of body height of lift and height of wheel I flipped all over and everywhere until I put the same style just smaller tire on

[@awsometurtle5524]

Thanks for responding to my reply and making this into a actual video!!

[@Techpower888]

Considered changing from the Fleetstar to the WWS and with the stability test this confirms it...I'm just constantly tipping over with the Fleetstar, especially in the quarry. Thankyou for sharing, this video was super helpful 🤙

[@flarbosim5544]

I love that you don't have music over all these videos. Thank you !

[@SamnissArandeen]

I love the stability test. It drives home the reason why I went Western Star, everything else would roll over. Soft shoulders and the sides of mud holes would constantly tip every other truck.

[@eareboucas]

Really great vid as usual. I bought myself the International Fleetstar scout yesterday and am absolutely in love with it. It's definitely got a personality of its own. I hope you get to it with your videos. Cheers!

[@blew4200]

So I accidentally came across the Royal Bm17 when I was stoned off roading in scout 800 in Alaska north port..best.truck.ever. Thing is a beast on mud tires and the stock engine has pulling power and uses very little fuel. I sold my fleetstar pretty quickly

[@project1003]

This popped up in my recommendations after I started a Hard Mode playthrough. I'm not using any mods and I'm playing the maps in order so I can't run to Taymyr for the Tayga. People tend to blow off these early trucks, but the Fleetstar has really impressed me with its' capability and the Western Star is just a brute. I've been really careful not to flip either one and I haven't gotten into anything yet where I even needed to rescue either of the trucks. (Aside from one instance where I was too busy thinking about the next contract and drove past my fuel truck in Island Lake and ran out **facepalm**) Great stuff, mate. Thanks for all your videos!

[@PunkLoch]

Looks like someone's got a bit of a preference. I've always used the Fleetstar for smaller deliveries, especially when completing the jobs in Black River. You'll get better at driving the Fleetstar with practice and start to pick up the pace while driving down familiar roads, and that's when you appreciate the fact that the center mass of the truck is a lot higher and that the body of the truck is thinner. It means you can take corners a little more sharp while at higher speeds, it's actually quite fun to rip around with a Fleetstar on tarmac. It's true that there's more chance of the truck tipping over unfortunately.

[@SD1ONE]

Yes, I have a preference and out of two I prefer drving fleetstar but that doesn't mean I closed eyes on its shortcommings....Its balance is off and White western is just better in most aspects if not all.

[@wobblycaptain]

White Star has been a good vehicle to use so far for me where others have failed its proved to be superior , still early days for me in the game but its been a good vehicle to start with once you have fished it out of the pond

[@Mazlo011]

Can you do an overall best off-road truck / heavy / heavy duty etc

[@CVlad92]

Tayga

[@owenbernard8397]

Tayga

[@AcornSmokes420]

Any truck can be the best truck it’s up to you to drive them, I prefer tayga truck over any right now

[@Mazlo011]

GettysburgBatle disagree, better trucks will have better mods, better power to weight, better fuel, better systems (awd, diff lock etc)

[@AcornSmokes420]

Jacob good thing about America we have a right to agree to disagree however the PS4 needs a major update I play on Russia since I rarely have a crash while Michigan hates my PS4 and Alaska is decent.

[@sgtgreengoat]

Thank you for adding the stability test. This to me is one of the WWS's assets you don't see on paper. Maybe along with the bridge find a road cutout or a steep hill and drive along side it. Thanks for the video.

[@ToddsDiscGolf]

Thanks man! I just got the Western White Star! Hauled it back with my P16! What a battle that was!! Now I know it’s time to retire my fleetstar for the white western star! 😁

[@seth4567]

It depends on what you're doing. I use the western star for semi trailers and I just have a flatbed on the international

[@irocz11]

TheCrazyOtter yep i do the same thing because the international is to light for semi trailers and the gearing on the white pisses me off some times so I usually use the international more.

[@BeefStew1332]

I really love these videos. They help me choose what to get in snowrunner

[@BMB57]

I love these vids and so far you have been the only one doing them that i have seen so thank you!

[@matteaspennachio6547]

All tests were very thorough and well conducted, The stability test was my favorite.

[@reidariestad4145]

You should do these test on all trucks and give them points 1-10, then make a list of every different class and rank the vehicles. So when you’re done it’s easy to tell what trucks have been tested and how they compare to others

[@avery3202]

I love how they used the same old horn from mudrunner with the white western star lol

[@KshitijTiwariii]

Really liked that experimental test it prooove which vehicle has greater balance and less chances of tipping over. I was about to add a comment to add such a test but to my surprise you already did add. Thanks

[@basvanheumen4231]

Also something worth noting: some trucks have a slightly bigger/heavier front bumper. I don't know yet if smaller tyres affect it's height, but it's possible for trucks to get stuck due to the bumper scraping against the ground. This happens most on the mud pit test. Heavy cargo seems to affect it as well.

[@ExistentialPineapple]

I like that bridge test you did near the end to see how the centre of gravity compared for both trucks. Interesting how the Fleestar tipped over, because I've had that happen to me too many times to count and I think that might be one of it's most underrated issues. Still a good truck though, and great video by the way

[@LuminousVoid199]

loving the Western Star 6900 Twin Steer such a beast

[@haardo]

I really love the engine sound on the fleetstar. :)

[@kyledupont7711]

I'm over 30 hours in, and while I thought the fleetstar was a drag at first, being slow and getting stuck easilly, I have found it to be one of the most useful trucks in the game. Once it's fully upgraded, it almost doesn't feel slow, and I have gotten more work done with that truck than any other truck by far. I highly recommend chasing down the upgrades early on, especially the Westline V6

[@WintryBurrito38]

In the mud pit, something that helped the western star was it’s longer wheelbase.

[@rickdff62]

I used the Fleetstar for the entire Michigan campaign. Once upgraded it was quite a workhorse and I just kinda grew fond of it. It could also be used some in Alsaka since it has chains but I found it to be too painful for practical purposes.

[@wexlbex]

I love the stability test! A very useful test would be to chek when a Vehicle rolls over on its side. Fot that, just make a street that gets more and more tilted, and see which vehicle can get further!

[@PePe_LePew]

I don’t know why but the horn blowing at the end cracks me up every single time 🤣. Nice video.

[@collinkaufman2316]

Especially the slow falling barrels😂

[@YurtFerguson]

These two trucks are my workhorses, I haven't gotten too far into the game but these two are great all rounders

[@kuznetsoff616]

I'm so glad I finally got him out of the forest in Michigan 30 minutes ago...

[@soulofcinder2007]

Антон Кузнецов that was a bitch and a half

[@connormatthews6148]

@@soulofcinder2007 no cap

[@kevinescobar157]

I’m 40 minutes in and I’m still stuck trying to get it out, my fleetStar is strong as it is but still struggles

[@soulofcinder2007]

A basic chubby Lemon just bring it up the side of one ice the hills, the roads are way harder

[@kevinescobar157]

Soul of Cinder I’m still struggling, I keep getting stuck in some rocks that are too narrow for both trucks to turn properly, which side hills are you talking about?

[@PSchuler92]

I pick the Western Star, had it going through wheeldeep mud, with the ramped flatbed and 4 lots of wooden planks on the trailer, due to the game annoyingly unloaded the truck first... With help of off-road tires, difflock, AWD and winch I got it through.

[@trini_bruce4381]

You make this game look so good and satisfying

[@ALTLAWNCARE2]

I use the fleetstar for everything. It has and will always be my main work truck. The western star is usually a follow truck w a service bed. Each truck has a purpose just like the caterpillar 770 is my super mud rescue vehicle

[@Bscoop75]

perfect. THIS is exaclty the kind of comparison that I wished for. Next: White western -> Tayga. White Western -> BM17 BM17 -> Tayga as those are free to get trucks and I feel are somwhat natural to get, unless you rush for best in class. also: cat vs P16, P12 vs P16, Cat vs P12 OH and as suggested by several others: Paystar vs Fleetstar, as well as Paystar vs White western

[@ShortThrowShifting]

The White Western Star was my main truck until I unlocked and upgraded the Tayga w/ the raised suspension and 51" specialty mud tires. The Royal BM17 is a close second though! Haven't had much time with the Freightliners yet, but they seem to be more specialized.

[@davidlamb2658]

I did things the easy way and rescued every truck available on the maps I could immediately access, and opened all the roads, the Western Star was the champion of all that hard work. I don't think I've even pulled my Fleetstar out of the garage yet.

[@oniemployee3437]

I was surprised that the Fleetstar was _this_ good when I got it. AWD, lockable diff, etc. I freaking love it!

[@jaymays8800]

I started with the Fleetstar and I still use it but once I got the Western Star it became my go to truck. Love your comparisons. ... J

[@jaymays8800]

@@TDILMAN100 you can pull semi trailers on the high and low saddles but you cant add a flatbed with a crane and pull non semi trailers with the WWS. It's strong no matter what it pulls. I like the old girl. ... J

[@Cbam871]

I'm going to sell my fleetstar tonight because of this. Thankyou

[@johnnyebertz279]

Warning it is one of the few early game trucks that can use crane bed and trailer. I used it to complete Michigan almost single handedly. If you haven't invested in the lift kit you should before you sell it.

[@Cbam871]

@@johnnyebertz279 maybe ill buy it back then

[@joshuuaaaa440]

Rollover test is the most important test right here 🙌🏼

[@Swarm509]

Right now I am running the Michigan maps and not going crazy buying truck, just using what I find as I go and recently got he the White Western Star. With mild upgrades it is already better as these tests show, especially for hauling the very heavy loads and through mud. The Fleetstar makes for an awesome support truck though keeping it away from the worst spots. Throw a maintenance frame add-on and use it to deliver fuel and parts to specific parts of the map as way-points. I can also run a crane on it as needed or use it as a rescue truck. I expect the White Western will take this role once I find/buy the really big trucks though (or get bored and want to try other things). Having not tried all the trucks it seems these two have the most utility by way of add-ons so they should be useful for some time. Also I think the White Western Star looks a lot better and reminds me of the trucks the local loggers used when I was growing up.

[@artardFTW]

is it better to have weight over the rear axle when going through mud or climbing? I find an empty flat bed sometimes has me spinning power away

[@NissanSilviaKs]

Loved the original MudRunner horn on the WS

[@smokey5129]

I'll be honest the white star is an awesome truck to have in game I had one personality with it all being stock besides a highway gear box and pull a trailer through the snow on alaska

[@Keymaker]

In favour of Fleetstar: it is shorter, so more maneuverable, upgrades are available sooner and it has no problem with connection of the the trailer when crane and cargo is on, in opposite to White Western Star. Great video in my opinion, keep it up!

[@JerzeyBoy]

I always loved those Fleetstar buses I used to take to and from school. I hope I can find one in good shape in the southern US.

[@brandonmann9952]

There are tons on them right around where i live in the north east, i drove a 1963 fleet star, harvesting potatoes, and a guy just up the road ownes a one he uses for a car hauler still to this day his is sick straight piped with a 6v71 twostroke Detroit diesel it screams

[@NiklasAdv]

im running fleetstar atm in alaska and further on because of "hard mode". its kinda fun, since its a really tough truck to use in serious conditions and it wants to tip over all the time so every line you take is important. new trucks just plow trough it all without you having to think of it.

[@ERGTZ]

I myself am still using the Fleetstar since the start (Fully upgraded now), im now on 3rd section area in Michigan, While the western star looks good, its still somewhat lacking in the performance department compared to the fleetstar due to the upgrades being locked in Alaska, and for me im still doing Michigan first before moving on so fleetstar still number one in my books. This will probably change soon however once i reach alaska

[@Hedgehobbit]

But once you get to Alaska, you'll get an even better truck for free. That's the problem with alot of these early game trucks (such as GMC and Kodiak), by the time you get all their upgrades, you've already got something that's clearly better.

[@ERGTZ]

@Ian Goschman Thanks for the spoilers, Thankfully i didnt go and research where everything is yet, makes the game more fun, please consider that next time.

[@Erik-ml7fz]

A comparison between the Western star and and the Cat 680 would be interesting, their stats are very similar

[@Drixiod_qc]

The stability test was a nice idea

[@brandonpace1684]

Great video !!!!!! Next video: international paystar vs Royal BM17

[@solzv0]

I would like to see azov 64131 vs Tayga 6436 or paystar vs white western star. Btw good video as always:)

[@GomTeamSpecrider]

White western star is an mvp. I did all contracts in michigan and alaska with it. Only changed over to Tayga once i went to Russia, WS is still part of my fleet and i still use it in russian when required and it still holds its own.

[@tecoz3083]

Fleetstar is a lifesaver in the beginning of the game

[@DefaultString]

Great testing! pretty much the same result as "felt" by me during the game. The bumpyness is the reason, why i dont use high suspension on the fleet - better danger of getting stuck (you've got a winch) than flipping over

[@specialopsdave]

5:00 This showcases what I believe to be the biggest difference between the two; Approach angle. The bumper is the big difference, not the tires

[@simonwagland2320]

Video 3 of asking for scout 800 vs Chevy Thanks for the vid

[@jsjsrggwgw2658]

Both have chained tires instead of highway tires when racing on road since its the best alternative

[@greentornadofx]

I always seem to catch these videos shortly after they come out

[@pedro.veia1977]

At begining i uswd a.lot these 2 trucks...i still do. These game for.me.was.always abput midium size trucks anf i.l9ve these olf school looks on them..super

[@СергійТеплюк-ъ3б]

Author, thank you very much for the wonderful videos. I watched you for a long time, but did not subscribe. Yesterday I got to the WS truck and wondered which truck is better than Fleetstar or WS. So we can say that you read my thoughts and for this you my subscription and like.

[@Sohtak_Beldeni]

Always waiting ur snowrunner videos comparing trucks

[@theredwolf2433]

My go to trucks currently are the ank and the bm17 both very good trucks

[@FirebonE_88]

If you have to choose one, choose both. Both of them are for FREE and they are really great trucks once upgraded. Reliable and dependable, they are also good-looking and sound good too, both being a joy to drive. Selling these two is a crime!

[@cmdrmaskime]

Awesome reviews dude ! Very very usefull and deep test ! Thank you ! Keep it up !

[@Mietas2]

Considering Fleet star is your 2nd truck in game and your can use it until the very end means it is an amazing truck!

[@usmchardcore0621]

I love and concurrently use both of these trucks, I feel like the "heavy duty" class of trucks is the best all arounders. But you gotta love the looks of the western star!

[@jcbro86]

I was hoping there would be a way you could test things like high-centering and stability on slopes (roll test). I think your new stability test is great.

[@finster2506]

Uhh aren’t chained tires for ice and snow?

[@Stevesixty7]

The Fleetstar is massively underated. I used it to rescue the Western Star in the first place. I then (after upgrading it) took the Western Star out and managed to get it stuck. The Fleetstar came to it's rescue once again and pulled it free. I think the Tayga 6436 beats them both though.

[@orianhullinger7999]

Even lifted the Fleetstar's front bumper is way too low

[@jiggafire7316]

I used the Fleetstar to scout all of Alaska. Purchased the fuel tank add-on and never had to worry about anything lol.

[@frankfazio6489]

Excellent thanks for these comparisons!!

[@kylegravel5298]

The fleetstar is just most of our first friend that got us through hell on earth. That thing was a gem for me on early game starting with Michigan

[@brooksrownd2275]

Loving 'em both so far as I complete Michigan missions.

[@Kowen8714]

The front of the fleetstar seems to be lighter as well. Had a heavy semitrailer attached + winched a trailer behind and the front was lifting a lot of the times making it impossible to steer...

[@fame00]

I love you all. God bless this channel

[@Yol0B0y]

A test with the caterpillar 745c and the kolob 74941would be interesting !

[@lolmadnesss7848]

Honestly though, the CAT CT680 blows both of these out of the water in the heavy duty category, especially when it's fully upgraded it's motor is just so powerful.

[@vigorgaming8]

this videos are weirdly satisfying