SNP makes case for Scottish independence at manifesto launch

[@BrokenNoseChris]

Jeezo, the presenter doesn’t half hate the SNP in this segment, eh?

[@debbiegilmour6171]

Pretty typical of the MSM as far back as 2007.

[@Mark-k3b9q]

Summary: lies and utter BS

[@cantbebothered1903]

Yes pretty much sums up all your comments on here .

[@cantbebothered1903]

​@@Celticsamuraiblue Hope so 🙏

[@utubebroadcaster]

The will of the Scottish people if SNP are successful, is for their freedom from Westminster shackles and to rejoin a democratic union, the EU.

[@Joey-ct8bm]

We will gladly take you. Greetings from the Netherlands.

[@SSMMTTEE]

The majority of the Scottish people don’t want independence. You need to get over it.

[@Behindstage]

What are you talking about, the UK is a democracy, Scotland was asked if it wanted to leave. Given this GE is a defacto referendum and the SNP are poised to loose seats to a pro uk labour party then they have decided again.

[@Bungle-UK]

I thought the will of most Scottish people was to get high and die young 😂

[@utubebroadcaster]

@@SSMMTTEE The SNP mandate was for independence. 80% of Scotland voted for it. You're in the 20% minority, buddy!

[@JoshAston23]

Can the North of England come with you please?

[@Behindstage]

You want to be ruled by the SNP?

[@julianshepherd2038]

Go on. I doubt the south will notice.

[@julianshepherd2038]

​@@Behindstageno, to live in a multi party democracy. Do you read a lot of comics ?

[@JoshAston23]

@@Behindstage well no, we just need a United Kingdom of Scotland, Wales, Northern England, South West England & Northern Ireland.

[@lindawatson2414]

You really wouldn’t want to

[@syriacchristianity9007]

Be sure to tax wealth Swinney.

[@ercanbanka5377]

Free Scotland , the Scottish People have suffered enough , it's time for them to be Free .

[@binileldhose700]

In u😂

[@jamesmason8944]

John asks "Where is the change.?" Exactly where is the change in the plan to achieve independence.?

[@debbiegilmour6171]

For your benefit, as you may not be paying attention before now, I will present you a brief summary of what this means. Previously, the SNP's plan has been to ask Westminster to allow them to conduct a consultative referendum. This got nowhere, due entirely to Westminster's intransigence. Famously. It has left the SNP little option but to treat the general election as a de facto referendum. This is the first actual referendum where this policy has been used in anger, so to speak. This plan was first implemented a couple of years ago after the English state (unilaterally) decided that it would actually be illegal for Scotland to hold a referendum. Between then and now, no general election actually happened, in case you didn't know.

[@maxthemagition]

40 John, Stick with the fact that the SNP represents the people of Scotland at Westminster and not go on about leaving the UK which is madness at this time. See what happened due to Brexit…..The UK left the EU and gave up the representation in the EU, was really stupid and also lost Scotland being represented in the EU. Brexit had meant that the UK is no longer represented in the EU Parliament and that has gone almost for ever. There was no need to leave the EU and there is no need for Scotland to leave the UK today. There may be at some time in the future. But really the SNP should be shouting from on high that it is the only party that represents the Scottish people in Parliament.

[@RealOGfikey]

Channel Four not being biased at all here...

[@blackislepeastoo]

I've been casting around social media for people's views (SNP and non-SNP voters both) of why the SNP lost - initially I thought of a 'top ten', but it got bigger quickly, so here's what came up, they are roughly in order of importance to the electorate as far as I could see. Any duplication, errors etc - my fault. Arrogance and incompetence of the SNP government Failure to listen to the Electorate and not focussing on issues that matter to them Named Persons Bill, Gender Recognition, Trans Rights, Hate Crime, DRS not wanted Forever blaming someone else - Westminster, Conservatives, Labour and even Thatcher Obsession with power not Independence Always lying about the support for Independence - give us a plebiscite White, White, White Always bleating on about independence without addressing real needs Lack of honesty and transparency - lying, cheating and stealing - Matheson's iPad Divisiveness of Sturgeon inciting hatred Didn't talk about anything other than Indy in their speeches & literature. Uninspired leadership of last 2 FMs Failure to actually make any move towards Independence in 17 years Last 3 or 4 years considered the worst government Scotland has had. Incompetent, hubristic, arrogant and corrupt. Criminal incompetence of the SNP and the stink of corruption Where's the money, especially the £ 600,000 Sturgeon Attacks on Salmond SNP run as a Cabal Probably the most vociferous feedback was : The SNP needs to take it's head out of its ar$e & start working towards its declared goal whilst running Scotland in ways that will improve education, health, local services and internal / external investment and increase TRUST in their ability to run a country. Why would we ask for independence from the UK, only to hand it over to Brussels ? Thatcher, Westminster, Conservatives & Labour are NOT the problem - SNP arrogance and incompetence is.

[@RatTerminator]

U had ur chance unlike Northern Ireland 🇮🇪

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

Any vote before EU REMOVAL IS ‘NULL & VOID’ & SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE CAN NEVER BE ‘GIVEN’…. IT CAN ONLY BE TAKEN BY THE PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND. This joke union is FINISHED 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

Absolute nonsense

[@RatTerminator]

@Celticsamuraiblue U voted No 4 Independence about 5 yrs ago FACT

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

@@RatTerminator You talk complete 💩 Any vote BEFORE EU REMOVAL IS NOW ‘NULL & VOID’

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

@@RatTerminator Any vote before EU REMOAL IS NULL & VOID

[@debbiegilmour6171]

Mon the independence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@titteryenot4524]

And of course there will be another referendum within 10 years. And if the SNP lose _that_ one, too, I guarantee it won’t be long before they start asking for a _3rd_ referendum… and a 4th etc. Of course, the unionists don’t have this luxury. If they lose, they’ve lost. Case closed.

[@belkentens]

Sperg

[@titteryenot4524]

@@belkentensBelendtens. 🤭

[@belkentens]

@@titteryenot4524 You’re REALLY pleased with that aren’t you

[@titteryenot4524]

@@belkentensBelendtens. 🤡

[@andrewelliott4436]

​@@belkentens And you are not pleased? Why's that?

[@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz]

Words are like spells. Independent or independence? An independent country or an independent country?? Scotland is a country and distinct from other countries. Where does the real power lie?

[@jeremyroberts39]

Just get in your illegal campervan and.......go somewhere else!

[@lyudmilakutsenko7045]

What I really like is how the Scottish speak English. I ain't such an expert. My English knowledge isn't as good as I would wish. But I like Scottish English.

[@quiquemarquez3211]

Never noticed SNP or nationalist politicians speaking in Scottish Gaelic but perphaps I just didn't find those videos.

[@TheRaminski]

@@quiquemarquez3211 more like gay lick for the snp freaks.

[@patriciaalexander9754]

they never give up!

[@TheRaminski]

It is all written on one square of IZAL.

[@YARROWS9]

For folk on here that don't live in Scotland. This party take no responsibility for their failings in Scotland. It's Westminsters fault, It's the tories fault, It's Brexits fault, It's the No voters fault. It's Jimmy Krankies fault.

[@debbiegilmour6171]

That's because most of the blame lies squarely at the feet of Westminster. This is the point of independence. Let me illustrate why (and a lot of this comes down to money): The Scottish government is funded entirely by an annual grant FROM WESTMINSTER whose magnitude is calculated by the Barnett formula. The overall goal of the Barnett formula is that Scotland receives roughly a population share of the UK government's i.e. WESTMINSTER'S annual spending. That is between 8 and 9 percent. Where this falls down is that this depends entirely on what Westminster spends each year which is dependent on the elected government. For the last 14 years, we have suffered under low public spending, pro austerity conservatives who have very little presence or vote share in Scotland. So, when WESTMINSTER spends very little, we receive 8-9% of very little, even though we in Scotland have not voted for low spending, pro austerity parties. That causes an artificial squeeze on our budget which we neither want nor need. There is, as a dependent country, no way around this except hoping that the English will vote for a party that aligns with what we vote for, and why should we be relying on that? Another restriction upon us is that our government actually has a pretty limited toolbox with which we can tackle the issues we face; and some of the powers we do have make no difference because they rely on powers we don't have. So, for example, while crime and justice, and healthcare are largely under our remit we cannot tackle the issue of high drug abuse effectively because we have no control on drug policy. What the Scottish government has said it would like to do is decriminalise drugs and provide safe consumption spaces. Westminster puts the kai bosh on this idea and they won't countenance devolving drug policy. So here we have found another example of an issue where the blame lies with Westminster. Another is Brexit. We want to be in the EU, Westminster said no and froze our democratically elected representatives out of any negotiations. That's pretty obviously Westminster's fault. I don't see how you could argue otherwise, unless you were to say that Scotland should have voted 'yes' in 2014.

[@gherkamum]

SNP just look at their history, very dodgy ....

[@quiquemarquez3211]

Heh a few years ago certainly you wouldn't have posted this comment, they are clearly at a political low nowadays though.

[@jeremyroberts39]

What ferry??????

[@fintamaria2429]

👏👏👏

[@Afc1983]

COME ON THE SNP, SOONER WE'RE OUT O THIS SO CALLED UNION THE BETTER 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@monkeynews8311]

They've had 15 years and failed to deliver, are you really delusional enough that you think they'll deliver it this year?

[@Afc1983]

@@monkeynews8311 away in watch a morris minor dancin video, your the delusional one's, what have Labour or the Tories ever done for SCOTLAND?, COME ON THE SNP, COME ON SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Afc1983]

I wrote a reply to this post and they've blocked it 😂😂😂, nothing offensive just a reply, tells you everything you need to know about these unionists COME ON THE SNP 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@GraemeWight-wx3xz]

Theyre fake nationalists. More interested in minorities than scots. Theyre traitors to Scotland and Britain too for that matter.

[@Halen0224]

Boring they need to change the record 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@AlfieFilms123]

So 17 years is change?

[@patriciaalexander9754]

who’s going to pay for all this nonsense. I know the English as usual, the good old English tax payer,

[@andyirwin3426]

I would like. To know where the money comes from they are full of ideas but no answers all about the same he says swinney Labour no change they are as bad it's the same record over and over

[@pastyman001]

What's in it? A wish for glory but no interest in or clue about governing, which makes you wonder what they would do if they had more functions to handle?

[@theevilapples]

Channel 4 back to waving the labour flag

[@belkentens]

So what

[@titteryenot4524]

*? Belendtens.

[@Bungle-UK]

Delusions? Fantasy? Missing cash? A camper van?

[@seanpower1383]

B,,, S,,,.

[@williamarmstrong3016]

Yer quite right keep the two anyone that's wants 3rd child let them selfs pay for the 3rd child no one asks her to have the 3rd kid

[@debbiegilmour6171]

Having more than two children contributes to population growth and the addition of people to the country that will become productive members of society. It is far from irresponsible. The fact that it's unaffordable for many is the result of extremely bad economic management that goes back to the days of Thatcher. Besides this, who is anybody to tell anyone else how many children they can have, and why should wealth be a barrier?

[@JimStrachan-eo4zk]

Labour can't get a foot hold in Scotland

[@MrToymaster1]

I take it you haven’t seen the polls

[@quiquemarquez3211]

Yeah the SNP did its best to destroy its momentum, it is a shame that punishing the party means turning to a department like Labour that won't vouch for Scotland more than it does for Wales(which is pitiful too).

[@Southern21076]

They want to use our money , keep head of state but leave !! lol hahahahha so boring and cringe they lost 10 years ago . No one cares about it now

[@johnmcguckien875]

The only referendum required is a bote to wind up pointless Holyrood. Things were far better under the Scottish office.

[@banzaighost]

Win an election on it and have a referendum or stfu until you do

[@debbiegilmour6171]

I mean... they weren't. By any measure. For example, at the end of labour's reign of neglect and malgovernance, 15 out of the UK's 20 poorest areas were in Scotland and Scotland was THE sick man of Europe. Now, none of the UK's 20 poorest areas are in Scotland.

[@mrmeldrew693]

Who cares.

[@يااللهيارب-ف2ق]

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[@nigelcard2028]

England is all off england there no Scottish part there no E land part there’s no Walsh part it’s England it’s all one island one people one country.

[@andrewjones-productions]

Says the clown that can't even write properly. It's 'Welsh' not 'Walsh'.

[@garrymoyes1928]

Utter pish

[@BariandHamza]

Vote for the Reform Party...its the way ahead...😊Nigel Farage is the man🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@debbiegilmour6171]

1). Reform is an English party led by one of the biggest English supremacists around. 2). Their attitude to Scotland would not be out of place at the Duke of Cumberland's table.

[@KarelTimmerman-dj3em]

Reform uk 🇬🇧

[@syriacchristianity9007]

Chase yerself

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

Reform are an insult to intelligence.

[@ercanbanka5377]

just another london asset

[@يااللهيارب-ف2ق]

i am your sister from Yemen, and by Allah I only spoke out of hunger and distress. My mother, my brothers, and I lessons and tears. We are in a situation that only God knows about. God is sufficient for us, and He is the best disposer of affairs for those who brought us to this situation. By Allah Almighty, I did not write this appeal out of distress and distress. Poverty, O world, they have felt it So, I hope for you. By Allah Almighty, Lord of the Great Throne, he ate what I had in the house. By Allah, my brothers, he is my brothers by sitting in the house. Who has no food? By God, we are in a very difficult situation. We have 4 people entering the house, and my father has died, and there is no one who can depend on us and who lives in it.We live in a rented house because we cannot pay the rent we owe. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' My brother, my first words are: I swear to God that I will not lie to you or deceive you. I am a Yemeni girl displaced from the war. My family and I live in a rented house in Al-Shahrab 20,000 Yemenis among us, and now we owe 60,000 for 3 months. The owner of the house is one of the people who does not have mercy, by God, my brother. He comes every day, insulting us, talking about us, and moving from the house to the street because we were unable to pay him the rent. The neighbors saw us crying and came back.They came back to talk to the neighbors and we were given the weekend. So we made him swear by God. He will take us out into the street. Have mercy on him and us. Our country is due to this war and we do not find food for our day, and my brothers and I live in a difficult life. Our father died, may God have mercy on him, and we have no one in this world who was with us in these harsh circumstances. My younger brothers went out into the street and saw...The neighbors eat and stand at their door in order to give them bread even if they break it. By God, to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, they closed the door and expelled them and came back crying. They are dying of hunger. No one has mercy on them and a holiday is returned. I have made a living, and now if one of us helps us with a kilo of flour, I swear to God, I am dying of hunger. My brother, I am an alien to God. Then, I ask you to help me for the sake of God. I ask you, by God, to love goodness and to help me, even if you can, by messaging me on WhatsApp.On this number 00967717354582 and ask for the name of my card and send it and do not be late and may God reward you with all the best, my brothers Sagar, see how they are and help us and save us before they throw us out in the street, you will be lost or we will die of hunger. My family and I ask you, by God, if you are able to help us, do not be late and may God reward you well..`/--~«««~~♡~♡~♡~~•~•~♡~♡~~♡~♡~♡~♡♡♡~~~: ~:~¡~¡~¡~;I.i.i.i.i.i. i.I.|-◖︻︻}،!.!.🎉😊😢😢😊😢

[@edmundprice5276]

I am your bro from Britain and by the gods I speak out of bots and trolls. Mummy and my fam are in absolute tears... Of laughter. We are in a situation that everyone reading this knows about. In the name of the gods I wrote this out of sheer silliness and satire.