Snub-Nose Werewolf Hunting!...Winchester Silvertip .38 Special 110 vs 125 +P Self Defense Ammo Test!

Revisiting some Silvertip ammo in a couple of different weights. Are they really a good option or did they just get lucky? Heavy clothing ballistic gel test using a Taurus model 856 revolver!
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[@brandiwynter]

I think when they claimed "+P" they meant someone urinated in the powder before they loaded in the cases. I expected these results before I even watched the video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@cgsimons1187]

Funniest comment I've read in awhile. 🤣

[@DanielGonzalez-vj4dg]

😂😂💀

[@larslarsheim1741]

Damnit I'm trying to watch the ballgame and here you come with 38 specials...gotta watch this first

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂

[@MeMadeIt]

Priorities! 😄👍

[@ratagris21]

Enthusiasm.... enthusiasm....quoting Robert DeNiro as Al Capone in Untouchables.

[@ilovetrump1252]

Dont worry about the football game. NFL hates you anyway.

[@joeyphillips1181]

NFL is rigged anyway lol college football is 10× better lol

[@kennethferguson4283]

Amazing. Here we are 79 years after the atom bomb ended World War II, 55 years after man walked on the moon and our ammo companies still can't figure out how to make a 38 Special round expand reliably. Truely amazing.

[@veroman007]

well a handful figured it out but yeah..

[@SamsungGalaxy-ls8ys]

Because 4 layers of denim is not based in real world, Real world would be single layer of cotton t shirt material and for winter a single later of cotton t shirt material + hoodie/jacket material? What the fbi said is a phsyop to throw off civilians.

[@c.miller3802]

Federal made the HST Micro that was the best .38 round I've ever seen, then they pulled it off the market. No explanation.

[@Cant_Stop-Wont-Stop0329]

Wow didn't know that, got some of the 130 gr. +p 38. special HSTs and was happy with the test I've seen from a 2 inch snub. Wonder why federal dropped it?@@c.miller3802

[@Gieszkanne]

@@c.miller3802 Oh yes by far the best .38. Maybe Federal got payed by the other companies to take it out because they are no competition. That is realy wierd!

[@Iceaxehikes]

Tools stays up till 3AM talking to us on live and still puts out a video today. Damn these manufacturers taking our money and their bullets don't expand.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I definitely slept late.😂

[@fredallen7493]

I remember Silver Tips in .38 was the go to! But I also remember Gold Dot in .45 would expand to .75 caliber. Seriously know the manufacturer down loads the powder charges. That or the copper is not annealed (softened) or alloying the lead harder! Downloading makes more sense, less powder more profit!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@acid6urns]

gold dots in .40 still expand that much or damn near it, dunno where you’re getting them

[@mcburcke]

Back in the day, the 2" snubby was commonly carried by Detectives or as a uniformed backup gun. One of the most popular loads for them was the wadcutter. My wife's .38Spl is loaded with Buffalo Bore hard cast lead wadcutters, and both of us are happy with that load for her heater. A test run of those on the channel here would be interesting.

[@graywind4326]

I run those too in my 442. They just punch straight through but the flat tip cuts tissue whereas conical bullets tend slip-it out-of the way but do make holes and those do destroy organs. Its not in clear gel but google that load on TNOutdoors9’s channel. He tested it a longtime ago. I also run buffalo bore 110 Plus P all copper hollow points. No test but have they would expand modestly due to all copper bullet and buffalo bore plus p velocity. They test their stuff.

[@acid6urns]

wadcutters are still a worse choice than a good expanding hollow point, which while a rarity in .38 (it’s just a low power cartridge, it’s sorta like .380 with a tiny bit more energy, but still very very slow) underwood and buffalo bore would be the two companies capable of selling them, but honestly for low power rounds like 380 and 38spl the underwood extreme defender is the best possible choice, you get good penetration but no over penetration, and still get a wound cavity better than fmj or wadcutter. another good option with 38spl is soft lead round nose, it will interestingly expand significantly more than any .38 hollow point

[@philrc1]

I keep getting the feeling that the designation "+P" is just an excuse to charge more.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@cgsimons1187]

It may have been in this case.

[@dougdottery1284]

Pretty funny. Trifecta of failure. The more tests I see from you I am convinced that FMJ flat nose is the way to go in my 2 inch J frame. Thanks for your videos.

[@northshores7319]

One of the problems with Plus P ammo is that they are not made to tell you exactly just how much Plus P there is in the bullet. It could be +P of a small amount or a very large amount so you have done the public a much needed service with these these so keep on doing them.

[@henrychristopher9131]

Winchester Silvertip is what the FBI used in the 1980's in the Miami shootout that was a complete failure in ammo performance.

[@toothless-tiger]

i've stayed away from winchester silver tips since 1986 after the FBI shootout in miami. The feds were using 115gr 9mm silver tips and they didn't Penetrate deep enough but the feds using 38 spl 158 lswchp did.

[@Hogheadsforbreakfast]

I know that a lot of folks worry about over penetration but in my opinion, the Underwood hardcast Keith style wadcutters are the most reliable.38 special option. Thanks for the video !

[@ToolsandTargets]

Those things bring the heat.😎👊

[@smartacus88]

Over penetration is a myth.

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Well, that's an absolutely unacceptable round right there. Great video, as always. Thank you again for all the valuable information you provide us, brother.

[@curtshelp6170]

It seems like they've neutered the sivertip.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

I knew once I saw those velocities that these rounds would be fancy FMJ. I'm of the opinion that rounds like this are just scams. Thanks for the test.

[@sombra6153]

That performance is about on par with .38 Special ST tests back when wheel guns were still pretty common. The .357 Mag version is a beautiful cartridge and definitely formidable with werewolves.

[@seanborck5710]

I would love to see a series of cartridge by cartridge videos of top 5 loadings. Keep up the great work!

[@MrTruckerf]

May have to do what the Brits favored in WW II and go with a 200 grain bullet to get some punch. Heck, back in the 1930s Remintgon and Winchester loaded a 200 grain .38 Special cartridge. It was called the Super Police.

[@rpddsmith]

I would accept that tumbling as effective.

[@finaloption...]

That was my opinion on a keyholing .22 It IS a bigger hole 😂

[@SwampOperator]

But would you accept it as reliable

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

It's still a failure. The rounds did not do what they claim to; you could get the same from 158 lead round nose, for much cheaper.

[@Gieszkanne]

But then I would take TUI ammo. They are designed for it. Or 180-200gr Super Police loads. Thy do tumble also with nasty wound tracks.

[@Neutercane]

Buffalo Bore 158 grain Standard Pressure and +P gas checked, soft cast lead hollow point. Gaping hollow point and the standard pressure is rated for 850 fps out of a snub while the other is rated at 1000 fps.

[@veroman007]

i shot the plus outa my 856, it is a handful for follow ups. shoulda stuck with standards

[@jakeoutdoors9600]

This was a good test sir. As far as the cold having an effect on the powder, I need a round that performs in the 90s and the negatives. Thats the weather where I live.

[@ToolsandTargets]

100% agree. Appreciate that.😎👊

[@davidjernigan8161]

Not to mention all the extra body hair that werewolves have.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Exactly!💥🐺💥

[@goodnewseverybody739]

I see ‘em downtown every time, crazed mf’ers howling at the moon😅😂.

[@chuckappel]

I am switching to wadcutters. Remington and Winchester seem to have the best standard loads. They don't expand but they do penetrate reasonably well and in a straight line.

[@cgsimons1187]

That is a decent choice for standard pressure .38 Special especially from a short barrel. They do more damage than FMJ and typically have less recoil too. So, your follow-up shots may be faster.

[@benjaminhuberty5888]

What's a shame is most people I believe see +p n (like me) would grab a box. Hoping if you ever need to use your gun on a non paper target... You would expect better results. And this is a slap in the face to that logic. Guess you can't have a opinion like that on all ammo. Thanks for the info!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@johnb7430]

I'll stick with 357mag loaded to "real" mag velocity! I mean who knew +P meant +powderpuff?

[@davidgaines8607]

Please do all of the .38 snub nose tests you want. I recently got into a revolver for a backup pocket rocket. Maybe try some different wadcutters. I have some really tame ones and some really hot Underwood loads.

[@bluecreech]

Maybe once in awhile you should weigh the cartridges. To check powder weight also..Should give you an idea of inconsistencies..

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@vanillagorilla9841]

Federal HSt +p is the only 38 special I would trust as a defensive round

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely a tricky round.

[@richki.24]

How safe is a 38spl +p round in a 60 year old Colt snub nose or should normal pressure ammo be used ?

[@jimsanders4412]

I, too, am a fan of the HSTs. Unfortunately, according to Federal, they don’t make the HST in .38 Spl anymore. I have one box, and my snubby is loaded with them. I don’t want to shoot them now because I can’t replace them. Really bums me out.🤷‍♂️

[@murphymmc]

@@richki.24 I have one of those too. From what research I've seen, the Colt Detective can handle +P, the caveat, not a steady diet of them. I practice with a 140gr SWC lead cast, powder coated, it likely would do as well as this test for defense. Defense carry, the Critical Defense 110gr.. Will it work? Maybe, that's why I don't carry it. Maybe Tools will do a wadcutter test with a snubby.

[@Tom-cp6yj]

Why? Are you just going by gel tests? There are plenty of proven rounds out there..

[@johnnymccann5607]

having reload,tested 38specials plus factory ammunition I strongly believe soft cast lead hollow points wider and deeper, sjhp, for expansion. swc hard cast and wc for depth .another curious experiment. over 40 years ago my daddy had a junkyard and to his great disapproval I shot car windshields different angles high,low, from sides, and several 38s glanced off the windshields proving dirty Harry right in the movie . Papa wishing you well

[@darikdatta]

Based on other people's testing, the only .38 special round I've seen expand reliably out of a snubby is Critical Defense +P 110 grain. Looking forward to seeing more tests like this, I'd sure like to find more options. I'm starting to wonder if wadcutters are the way to go.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@harrypeterson9287]

The FBI load as loaded by Underwood or Buffalo Bore is in my opinion the most consistent and devastating .38 round there could ever be if you don't mind the slightly excessive recoil. It's a 158 grain +P semi wadcutter hollow point. Just an exposed soft lead hollow point, a very wide and deep hollow point I might add. Very reliable expansion and energy numbers about double that of the ammo tested here. Serious stuff!

[@craigbenz4835]

38 Special seems to need a 4" for expansion. With a 2" plan on not having any.

[@ToolsandTargets]

It's tough for sure.

[@rsl82568]

Underwood Extreme makes Great 38spl ammo for Snub nose. But not cheap.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@buckshot4428]

Back in the 70's Winchester loaded their .38 silvertip hotter. I think they use different bullets now.

[@shakennotstirred32]

Hey! I appreciate you doing.38 testing! I bought my daughter a Rock Island .38 special for her first gun and for $250 it seems like a value. The gun doesn’t advertise +p but they say it’s fine as long as you don’t take it out and range shoot it. I bought regular 38 from Hornady and it was really disappointing but your video has helped with the quest for better ammo.

[@marklopez-cdhs4994]

I find that buffalo bore 158 lead hallow point (NON +P) are a great choice for snubbies

[@balancedfordaylight1]

Its too damn bad the big ammo companies do not watch any of these tests and keep putting out sub par ammo in 38 and 44 special, I wonder if the public would not be better served by Winchester putting out a high velocity full profile wadcutter, lets say 800 from a snub, 900 from a 4 inch barrel in 100 round white box packaging as an example allowing people to practice and carry with the same round in their snubs. Just an idea

[@sulaco2122]

Keep in mind that today's plusP ammo is not really historically plusP, when ammo was loaded in the 20's, 30's and into the early fifties what we now call plusP was the standard loading. What we call plusP was off the shelf standard rounds back then, it began to be downloaded in the late 40's and early 50's over concerns of blowing up older guns and later over the lawyers getting involved. The plusP designation was added when defensive ammo began to be loaded hotter as a marketing ploy and in response to the wimpy rounds being sold and complaints from LE.

[@freddyrogers8593]

❤ all .38 snub test, thanks 👍

[@barney214]

Thanks for the test. Disappointed because I just bought several boxes of the 110 Silvertips. I haven't seen many werewolves in my part of central Texas, but there are lots of other scary creatures.🦄

[@scottdunn2178]

The old "FBI Load"... a soft lead 158gr Semi-Wadcutter HP +P is still a tried and true load for the .38 Special even in a snubby...

[@Gieszkanne]

But the FBI had S&W mod 10/64 and 13/65 with 3 inch barrels. From 2 inch these also dont expand mostly.

[@scottdunn2178]

@@Gieszkanne An inch of barrel won't matter much, and the key is the soft lead in the original load... most modern lead (Buffalo Bore, etc) use a harder cast lead. Besides, Lee Harvey can attest to the effectiveness of a soft lead bullet fired from a 2" barrel 😅

[@Gieszkanne]

@@scottdunn2178 It can make a difference of 50fps this can be crucial with this low velocitys! And also a round that dont expand can kill.

[@scottdunn2178]

@@Gieszkanne 🤦‍♂️ I can understand now what Tools deals with... people who just want to troll and argue. #Muted

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Great Live Stream last night. Good topics and discussions. Sound quality was really good for me no issues last night. Good grief that was not expected. Both was poor performance. That SilverTip was hoping would do descent. Definitely not worth the price difference for defense ammo. Good test and commentary. Just can’t believe this ammo is watered down that bad. Thanks for sharing. Be safe. Again great Live Stream. 🇺🇸🇺🇸⭐️⭐️👍

[@Swampytheroot]

The only 38 I ever tried that worked well used the Remington Golden Saber 125 that a company in Georgia loaded hot as balls. Nice presentation. So that's a No Go on 38 Silvertip

[@usmc249]

Thanks for doing these test in finding a good .38 snub round. I think it’s going to be hard to find a good factory defense load. Keep up the great test.

[@steelpunisher6944]

Looks like the .380 gremlin is popping his head in these .38 special tests. 😆. The snubby .38 is just as fickle as the .380 short barrel. But these ammo companies need to at minimum, meet the velocity they are selling people on. Great video just the same. 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@tormentorxl2732]

The old silver tip in 10mm used to be my favorite.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🐺💥

[@StevenRogers-hw9dj]

I hope it's not still your favorite. I've never been impressed with Silvertips, in any caliber.

[@tormentorxl2732]

@@StevenRogers-hw9dj key words, “used to be”. 175gr @ 1200 isn’t bad for carry. Even these days.

[@StevenRogers-hw9dj]

@@tormentorxl2732 There are certainly worse loads out there, but those aren't numbers which impress me. Push a 180 gr. at 1250 and I'll consider it.

[@tormentorxl2732]

@@StevenRogers-hw9dj they were what I considered appropriate for carry while I worked at a gun shop in my G20. I hand load. So I can have what I want as far as performance.

[@nealkarraker5468]

How much time does it take you from start to finish one video? I mean set up, melting gel, shooting vid, taking everything down, editing etc…? You have one of the best channels and I can’t help but see you put a lot of effort into each segment. Thank you for the hard work you do and keep on keeping on! You, Harrell, and Buffalo are the best at what you do.

[@jimmieburleigh9549]

Back in the day that's what I carried in my 357 that and hyda shok

[@OldTimeRevolver]

Thanks for the continued quest for the best .38 Special rounds.

[@matortiz2322]

If you can find some 38 special 158 +p TMJ from Speer lawman that would be cool to see tested

[@treetop.garage]

Even if it's a fail you still went the extra mile ...great video tools

[@theoriginalOSOK]

I prefer Lehigh defender (I think that's the name) 140 grain bullets in +p handloads for my 38 defensive rounds - out of a 357 Mag snub nose - around 1000 fps. I would also be fine with standard pressure handloads with hard cast lead swc 158 grain bullet at 900 fps. (max load of Alliant Power Pistol). .357 Mag loads are extremely loud - think inside or in a car... goodbye ear drums... The 38's are bad enough.... thanks for the review! Best to use solid bullets and go for shot placement and good penetration.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@michaelsanchez8457]

Silvertip used to be what I bought for 357. Very reliable. Seemed pretty accurate.

[@billdubois56]

Another great jelly test Brotha , the more +P ammo I see the more I think it's just a money grab ..

[@ToolsandTargets]

This sure wasn't impressive.

[@CarnivoreDog]

Great live stream last night. There's a lot of people that have the same concerns as you.

[@rsbreeze]

.38 spl......kiliing raccons and skunks since 1898!

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🦝🦨💥

[@zonezombie]

This my number 1 ammo testing channel. Good work as always. The difference with these latest rounds is the heavy clothing barrier. In your earlier test you fired into bare gel. The heavy clothing protocol is the way to go. It really separates the men from the boys.

[@stolnpckup]

It got in the 40s here. 🤣🤣🤣. As of matter of fact. I just picked up some silvertip 40 caliber today. The box shows, 155 grain and 1205 at the muzzle.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆

[@stolnpckup]

​@@ToolsandTargetsI guess that means that I just wasted my money.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I've only tested the .40S&W Silvertips in bare gel, but they did good.😎👊@@stolnpckup

[@stolnpckup]

@@ToolsandTargets ok. Thanks. I am starting to buy defensive rounds. Just different calibers. Just like, if I remember correctly. I would like to get some underwood or buffalo bore for my 10mm.

[@SwampOperator]

The 40sw silvertip is a great round. You did good

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

At least they were consistent. One would think a heavier plus p would have more energy. Had high hopes for a good snubby round, maybe they’ll actually work in a 4 inch. Thanks for the test Tools!

[@MrSumGuns]

Hey bro inconsistentcy is a failure to me. I don't like ammo that is like a box of chocolate you never know what you are going to get. As always great video! Your the man!

[@kevinramsey4673]

Hey Tools, thanks for another great test. I used to carry HST'S in 38's. I haven't seen any in awhile. I keep either Winchester PDX's or Buffalo Bore 150 gr wadcutters mostly. I also have a couple hundred Remington 158 gr lswchp's. I rarely carry a 38 though so I ain't much help.

[@petee454]

Great test and info for the .38 guys. You do the best tests that I trust. Thank you.

[@papadan8468]

Agreed. Tool's gives the best unbiased test

[@pferoxtheskeeterguy]

I'm surprised. I just shot off the last of my home defense silvertips. They were over 35 years old and both the +p and 357 magnums worked great out of a 4 inch Smith 586. I have noticed that Winchester products aren't like they used to be, wonder if it has anything to do with them doing all the military loadings. And short changing the other products. Their small pistol primers just outright stink now, usually 50 out of 1,000 don't go bang. Makes me worry about our people in harm's way and the reliability of their ammunition.

[@williamcody5271]

"Trifecta of Failure" love it.😆

[@LuckyDog350X]

I especially love these type of tests, finding out for certain what the single most bestest 😁 performing round is in each of the most popular calibers. Then maybe if it is something that interests you make a single video stating which round it is that was found to be the best in each caliber for easier reference, kinda a one stop video for anyone looking for that info. Have a good one brother see you on the next one.

[@frankbrowning328]

Your performance was GREAT! All the warewolf stuff cracked me up, especially the still have some clothes on once they transform. The 2 loads test not so much

[@BR549-2]

Great test. I think Elmer K. was right about 38 special. With most ammo it isn't a reliable performer. Have a good day

[@matttheknife8293]

I appreciate the testing you do. Thank you for using a snub when testing these rounds.

[@thebluesrockers]

I wonder if the Remington HTP 125gr or the HTP 158gr + P rounds would expand. It would be nice to find a good 38 special round that will perform without breaking the bank. "Buffalo Bore SWC-HP 158gr + P work great but they're just stupid expensive. After watching your last "Underwood" 38 special test I'm feeling really bad about those now. And those are just as stupid priced as those "Buffalo Bore" Watching these "Silvertip" rounds under perform makes me feel like the company owes you a refund. Great video. Thank you for showing people what companies are robbing people with their fraudulent ammo. A FMJ does just as good if not better than one of those slower moving HP's. Keep them coming. I smashed that thumbs up. Peace.. Joe

[@mrchavez1967]

Tools & Targets has some of the most informative videos out there.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@valkyriect3919]

I saw a werewolf drinkin’ a pina colada at Maggie McFly’s Ahh-hooo

[@runningwithscissors3997]

Stopped carrying hollow points in snubbys - for me, 148 - 158 grain lead WC.

[@garysorrells8133]

Back about 50 years ago a police officer friend of mine carried a 38 snub for a back up and his load of choice was a 148 grain hollow base wad cutter loaded backwards in the case over about 2.8 grains of bullseye powder. Those things up close would turn wrong side out to about 3/4" on anything you hit with it. They are probably not politically correct for use on werewolves now days.

[@Neutercane]

The HST load seems to have done well in tests from what I've seen. That Federal Punch load might (I hope anyway) work too.

[@Yetified_Mayhem]

I'm working in East San Diego right now. It's 80 degrees today. Can't complain, nice break from the white north

[@ToolsandTargets]

😲😲😲

[@ctusser]

That center disruption wasn’t tumbling, that’s where the undead spirit was destroyed.

[@ToolsandTargets]

🤯🤯🤯

[@jamesmikesell5458]

The 380 of the revolver world

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@cgsimons1187]

That is exactly right.

[@bakerjeffery1970]

Buddy, if you made 5 videos a day I’d set my ass down and watch every one of them. Love your ballistic videos

[@ToolsandTargets]

I gotta clone myself!😎👊

[@bakerjeffery1970]

@@ToolsandTargets impossible 😂, the world couldn’t handle it 😝

[@scottstewart5784]

I have a 357 mag/38 sp 3 inch Taurus. I carry 357 loads. If there was a 38 sp that reliably expanded at about 300+ foot pounds (9mm energy) I'd carry it, because 357 can be so snappy. Today's "+P" entrant was at 200 foot pounds - weak sauce with no expansion, but at least they solved that over-penetration problem, huh?

[@varietasVeritas]

Cold weather can reduce velocities. Thanks for your time in the freezer!

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

Remington stopped making the dead soft “FBI Load” 158 grain lead SWC hollowpoint .38+P a while ago. Those were legit hitters and expanders from a snubby barrel. (I know Remington still makes a similar product but I believe it’s a changed bullet and maybe a changed powder loading.)

[@trustnot9]

Great job and great test. I think the werewolf got scared away anyways, lol.

[@erichanson7293]

Wow. No expansion, but consistent tumbling. Could be worse, but certainly not ideal as is. Thanks for testing, no matter the weather!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@randyadams03]

So I click on upload and an ad for Great Wolf Lodge plays first?? Guess could just use. Cheaper FMJ save a few $$ . Fun stream last night I sort of checkout bit early. Good week !!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂 Pretty funny.

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯 they didn’t over penetrate just a 🕳with a flip.

[@glennsammon4465]

it is cold where you are testing. cold weather does effect the powder. so the speeds can be slower. perhaps try this test in warmer weather and we can see. you have good videos , thanks for sharing.

[@slowpokebr549]

I carry hot loaded swchp in my snubby. Lead isn't sexy, but it still works.

[@kfsrmn]

I carry 148 grain hollow base wadcutters in my LCR.

[@bowieupland6112]

Use ball rounds, semi wadcutter, and wadcutter... you'll be fine

[@charlesphillips5906]

Thanks for the short barrel!

[@nearrlegend6741]

Great video, even with sub-par ammo lol. The main thing I need to tell you is that I just happened to check and it said I was not subscribed. I've been around for a long time, even sent in some ammo for testing and I'm not subbed? Total BS! Maybe you should make an announcement in the next few videos.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, brother. Seems to happen a lot for no reason at all.🤬

[@twistedfocus]

That’s a pretty expensive box of wadcutters. What a shame. 😢

[@anthonyb2334]

Thank you for your videos. I have a Taurus 605 with 3” barrel. Disappointed these rounds don’t perform. I need to go through your videos to see if the Underwood worked better. I like the 38 loads for a nightstand gun. My wife can shoot it as well. Thanks again

[@chretired]

I didn't expect anything different Tools. Just glorified wad cutters or FMJ's. Hope you had a good weekend? Just cold rainy weekend for me. Be vigilant and always be safe my friend

[@ToolsandTargets]

Pretty dreary here too.

[@wheeler71]

Thx Tools (going through posts from my watch later) long ago used 9MM 115 SILVERTIP medioce performance and 357 135gr ST no experience. Sad to see poor performance by factory ammo 👍💪🏽🙏🔫🇺🇸

[@georgebobbouine4559]

Such crappy weather here lately! Glad to still see u killing it.

[@jeffreybean5363]

I was hoping those would have done well. So I could get some of them for my Dad.. appreciate what you do Tools 🇺🇸👊.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Hanover_Fist]

Thanks Tools, Looks like I will stop carrying 38 sp.Silvertips. No wonder LEOs did not like them.

[@glennsammon4465]

pretty much I just use wadcutters. don't have to worry about expansion , and they work in any barrel length.

[@davew8694]

Look into Atomic almost reverse wadcutter. Great test.

[@kevincallahan3059]

I'll be looking for some of that ammo, would be interesting to try in a carbine 16".....thanks for the video.