So, can we trust these statistics or not?

[@robertjensen1438]

A man was riding on the bus and reading an article about life and death statistics. Fascinated, he turns to the fellow, sitting next to him and says, "Did you know that every time I breathe somebody's dies?" The fellow turns to him and says, "Have you tried mouthwash?"

[@G.Hibiscus]

bro’s smooth with it 😂

[@baylee_baby_]

I used to be a big statistics person until I realized people change those to their biases too... It's rough :(

[@MrJoel9679]

She changes her bias mid sentence.

[@joshuabrandmire5709]

Like Michael says, statistics are largely bunk

[@tlovi7342]

Statistics demonstrate patterns, not cause. That most are statistically illiterate is an indictment of the education system, not of the school of statistics. Addendum: and also that people misuse information to their own purposes is only human. Not knowing that is a failure at home.​@joshuabrandmire5709

[@Diggzthecarnivore]

It's cause people treat the truth as if it's objective, and twist the word for their own objective. They need to realize the truth is not what we desire to belive.

[@adrienneanderson-smith2257]

Most people getting divorced have been divorced before. So the data is rather out of whack.

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

That's why it's broken down by first, second, third and etc marriages.

[@coxrocks25]

You absolutely wasted her in this debate. She embarrassed herself

[@am3thysts]

Deciding “yep, things used to be good, but now it’s not, so we have to live by today’s standard” is admitting defeat, not keeping higher standards for yourself, and not fighting for something better to doom yourself to something worse. If it existed 15 years ago it can exist today if people put their feet down and refuse anything else for themselves.

[@tylerhall95]

If "whatever I think is true" were a personality

[@betterlatethannever4529]

The values back then aren’t the same as they are today. Shame held a different part of society decades ago, but now we have parades for people to celebrate their kinks and walk around basically naked , and most won’t step in out of fear of being shamed for not tolerating it.

[@ryanlipple6854]

Well said!

[@yemer6239]

Report the porn bait bots, first report their profile, then their comments. If you report the comment first, it will dissapper and you will lose the profile to report it.

[@mysterybotts]

Good shit man thanks for the tip.

[@nov3m472]

no i want to contact those ladies with their unsafe link 😡

[@GamingTremor]

Thank you

[@angiew2324]

The comments will show back up if you refresh the page or click "newest" and then "top comments." ...just in case you were wondering. Lol

[@feartheghus]

This guy has legitimate anti-bot tactics. We should all listen to him.

[@shawnkrause417]

This lady talks like she’s his mom

[@angiew2324]

She talks like she's the mother of all mothers & the most successful wife on the planet - yet she's never been a wife or a mother.

[@Sentinel82]

​@@angiew2324 Attack the argument, not the person.

[@angiew2324]

@@Sentinel82 You're probably right, but her misplaced, unearned arrogance is really frustrating to listen to - and I'm being way nicer to her than she is when she's speaking about other women.

[@RachelDee]

I would much rather live in a world where more people thought and lived like Michael than a world where more people thought and lived like Pearl.

[@rluv4evr]

Mee too.

[@RevofOne]

I think you are commenting on this and not knowing who Pearl Davis is. If you look into i would bet you agree with her more then not

[@RachelDee]

@@RevofOne You talk down to me as if I’m ignorant while failing to see your own lack of logic. Nobody should be offended by this obvious truth. Michael’s life is holier, healthier, and more traditional than hers. If you think the culture would heal more if people were like her than if people were like him, then I’m sorry but you’re basing your judgment on feelings over facts.

[@RevofOne]

@@RachelDee I in no way talked down to you. Or called you ignorant. I would never do that. I was just pointing out if you researched Pearl is very conservative and anti feminist so her and Michael are very much the same. It doesn't appear that you know that. They don't have to agree on everything.

[@RachelDee]

@@RevofOne 1) you appealed to my ignorance (which isn’t there but you presumed it was) 2) you don’t know what those words mean and clearly didn’t watch this whole debate so maybe you should put your foot in your mouth now

[@stephenoliver958]

The old saying “There are lies, dammed lies and then statistics “

[@user-vl8qw8hp1g]

He asks her a question, and it goes completely over her head. 😂😂😂

[@Vnz__200]

Facts😂

[@k-ozdragon]

She's not wrong here. We also knew exactly what a woman was less than a decade ago. Things have changed dramatically in recent history.

[@MightySamoht]

I feel it's about finding the right person, someone who can be your best friend that supports you and has your back. Ride or Die! She's right about the 7 years, my first marriage lasted less than a year because she cheated and my second lasted 7 years because she had more interest in going to the club instead of staying home with me and taking care of our children. My marriage now, is going on for 9 years strong.

[@Kay-rf3fp]

I hate that she just says yea well things are different now instead of acknowledging what we can do to make things better for the future.

[@MrJoel9679]

She’s a bs shovel.

[@varitasaequitas1490]

Abolish feminism

[@angiew2324]

Pearl has a lot of opinions about marriage & parenthood for someone that's never been married or a mother.

[@Xmeagol]

So your ability to shit out a baby makes you uniquely qualified to speak about marriage?

[@user-vl8qw8hp1g]

Just like the people who have never had children are the first ones to offer advice on how to raise children. It's astonishing, really.

[@angiew2324]

@@user-vl8qw8hp1g Yep, and the most vocal are usually the ones that get the biggest reality check when they finally do have kids.

[@ChomoBidensMules]

​@@user-vl8qw8hp1gIt's called remembering what being a kid is like.

[@ChomoBidensMules]

​@@angiew2324Parents have very short memories.

[@TheAntithesis__]

The difference is the level of temptation now. A husband or wife can now more easily be contacted by their first love, a homewrecker, or any other piece of eye candy. A high percentage of marriages end because of adultery.

[@RachelDee]

It’s way harder now to not get caught though

[@MAfanwoods37]

Its a different time because theyve decayed values

[@9879SigmundS]

Knowles is smug, dogmatic, and anti intellectual.

[@jeffdidomenico9186]

He is wildly out of touch. Divorce is rampant.

[@TattedRed76]

Who is she? What makes her an expert? What degrees does she have? I actually do know who she is, but who does she think she is? I don't have a problem with anyone supporting men's rights, but I don't really agree with what comes out of her mouth.

[@samuelyoton4638]

Pls correct me of Im wrong. But why is she talking to Michael like she's his mom?. Shes not even a wife or a mother to act like that to a married man

[@sjr100]

Any argument, when someone says "statistics show that.....", ummm, okay, brilliant comeback. I often think of "statistics work both ways".

[@AustinKloudChloesPetRhino]

Michael- you can’t say in 1969 we had no fault divorce and compare it to 2024. That’s 55 years of feminism being pushed and taught to all public school aged females before college. That level of programming was not even a thought in 1914, 55 years prior to 1969. To compare 1969 to 2024 is absurd.

[@jmebig3044]

The funniest thing I saw recently was a DW post that said, “when done right, marriage is the most rewarding thing that can happen in life” or something to that effect. It’s like, yeah, and if I win the lottery, I’ll have a lot of money. Marriage is nearly impossible to “do right” especially since it requires 2 people to both “do it right,” and not only are modern women both legally and culturally incentivized to not “do it right,” they are also , on average, bad partners to begin with.

[@julien8629]

It's very simple, it's too risky because one party gets rewarded for breaking a contract. Why would I sigh it

[@jaykay7300]

Get the government out of marriage and you’ll reduce divorce rates.

[@Bugsy11368]

Divorce over the last half century has become steadily less stigmatized, so it's far more acceptable by society. The more society accepts divorce, the higher the statistics for divorce will become.

[@DeGreyChristensen]

She says that “the average marriage is 7 years” and this simply isn’t true. The average divorce is around 7 years, but the average marriage lasts until death. Especially if steps are taken to mitigate the chances of divorce (making sure you are truly compatible before marriage, avoiding pornography, drugs, and alcohol, make sure you have clear and open communication about everything, etc.). Doing that brings the likelihood of divorce down to almost nothing.

[@christianmyhre7154]

Michael Knowles should talk to the crucible

[@Aku9466]

As my grandfather would say, “figures lie and liars figure.” You can have something as simple as “number of people who die from gunshot wounds in Chicago vs Honolulu” showing a set number for both cities during the same amount of time with triple redundancy to make sure that all of the figures are correct, where they came from, everything, and people like that woman will still say “that doesn’t matter, it’s not real, it’s not important” because it disagrees with their opinions, and they will twist or misrepresent the facts to either discredit it or somehow make it sound like it supports their side of the discussion. It’s psychotic.

[@WakkaWakka25]

To be fair though her argument was those statistics he used included all peoples, what she was saying was among younger generations. Then Michael says they've had no fault divorce since the late 60's. However, since then is when you start seeing the decline in marriage lengths, rise in divorce rates, and it only get exponentially worse when you add in dating app years. That's the point she was making I believe.

[@Aku9466]

@@WakkaWakka25 except that the discussion was on all marriages in a set time frame and then she decided to nit pick at the fact that it wasn’t aimed at the younger demographic. Like I said, playing around with the numbers and facts to either discredit it or turn it to a false positive. If all marriage rates fell she’d say it was proof in her favor, if they went up she’d say that the research was flawed. There’s no winning unless people are honest with each other and themselves over what is real or not.

[@MrJoel9679]

She’s a charlatan. Changes the goal posts mid argument and just up lies. Stop giving her fuel.

[@DDT_KDog]

The deciding factor of the debate this clip is from is the fact that Michael thinks people should get married and have kids, and Pearl not so much, the way you know who’s example is worth following is by choosing which two of these people seem happier, Michael has a loving wife and kids and is perfectly happy, Pearl does not and when you hear from her, she ain’t never happy, Don’t follow people’s advice when they themselves seem unhappy with their own life

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

Ideology has changed. Feminism has matured. It's like investing, with your life as collateral, on the outcome. The marriage market is like the economy right now, it has a high likelihood of failure.

[@davescruton2829]

Michaels anger tell is tightness in his lips. Best i can tell he hates Pearl.

[@RevofOne]

He doesn't. You should research. She is very conservative and anti feminist. Do you research

[@RachelDee]

⁠​⁠@@RevofOne Then produce the proof and stop being a defensive apologist for her. There wouldn’t have been a reason for this debate where he pointed out her liberalism in her views if she was as conservative as you say. Maybe you didn’t watch the whole thing.

[@RevofOne]

@@RachelDee Google her and look . And her podcast. If you think Pearl Davis is liberal you are delusional ASF my friend.

[@4E-P]

The statistics of current divorce rates are being hidden by older generations with stronger values. Her point is that to categorize a married couple that has completely different values and has been married for 40 years with another couple that has been married 4 years makes the statistics unhelpful. I believe if those statistics were broke up into age categories or length of marriage categories it would be far more informative and extremely troubling and probably the reason it is not released to the public. Basically including older generations with stronger values in a statistic with younger generations hides the true extent of the generational values downturn. As the older couples who have been married start to die, the statistics are going to drop like a lead weight. Our society is poisoning our children’s minds and they are trying to hide it from us.

[@DK-tq3fy]

4/5 dentist recommend Coalgate. But the truth is 4/5 dentist recommended all the brands of toothpaste. If you want to learn to lie, learn statistics. They can be misleading if you are not aware of the context. Pearl depends on this.

[@stevendouglas3781]

Yeah, Michael. Secular people shouldn’t get married.

[@tobylou8]

Wow, she can't hold a candle to Micheal. The more she talks, the worse it gets.

[@stevendouglas3781]

Maybe if everyone ignores reality and keeps wishing for a good future it might happen.

[@nov3m472]

"human psychology changed within a decade, michael"

[@Axodus]

"see, we can't apply the same logic to these humans because they were born in a different time that makes them completely different psychologically speaking" said no one ever.

[@Didymus6]

Michael needs to move on. His worst videos include this woman.

[@michaelfritz8725]

The biggest problem is social media. When someone has a prpblem they run to social media and you have a bunch of thirsty people that are more than happy to ruin a marriage because their life sucks and they don't want anypne else to be happy. You have guys that want to sleep with the woman, or women telling her then lave him theres all these other men here. Men will hear things too. It used to be you might know people in your town and thats about it. Now people see everyone from every town and city around and have a bunch of outside noise in their life.

[@user-cv8oi8pm3p]

M😊

[@rahuld.2015]

I don't understand you Michael. Sometimes you talk against feminist girls, but sometimes you talk against a women who is against feminism. What do u want.

[@ShadowMischief]

mistake going on with him pearl your exposed as a bit of a light weight .

[@ElijahProfet]

989898 think

[@kathleenholzmeister301]

I do NOT like this female.

[@MrsKeeker]

My concern with this rhetoric is how harmful the ideals "divorce isn't an option" are for people with abusive spouses. Staying married to abusive people shouldn't be expected by any faction of society.

[@pianojPianoj]

You’re taking an extreme stance to prove a point. It’s just like the argument about abortion, person raped someone and gets them pregnant therefore it justify a the killing of a child. The majority of divorces aren’t from abusive relationships. If you are in a abusive relationship then you shouldn’t get married to that person.

[@Axodus]

You're the type of person to try to validate mur-d r by using a strawman like self-defense.

[@RachelDee]

It’s a slight misunderstanding on the terms and presuppositions. They’re not talking about justified abusive cases to become separated. They’re talking about people like my cousin that got a divorce after being married for one year.

[@Axodus]

to fully explain my point, you can't imply the two are remotely similar, just like how you can't imply all marriages are like that. You're ignoring the nuance.

[@DeGreyChristensen]

My wife and I decided before we got married that divorce is never on the table. If we have a problem, we fix it like adults. We understand, obviously, that abuse, infidelity or anything that would be cited in a “fault divorce” would obviously be reason enough for divorce, but knowing each other and doing our due diligence in getting to know each other before marriage, we know that none of those were likely to be an issue. The problem we see now is that people separate and get divorced at the first sign of trouble. They have this expectation that because the relationship felt so perfect when they were dating that if something comes up and someone starts having a problem, that somehow “they changed” or “they weren’t who they thought they were”. No one is perfect and people struggle. They get sick, they make dumb choices, and sometimes they get stuck in ruts and bad habits, but that is often when they need more support, not abandonment. Marriage is work and people have become selfish and lazy. They figure that life was easier when they only had to consider what they wanted, so they end the relationship. Taking divorce off the table forces the people to work through their problems, mature, and grow in their relationship. My wife and I have had our fair share of struggles, but we always come out of it stronger. If we had just decided that it was too hard and quit, we would not be where we are now, happily married for almost 10 years with 2 children, and homeowners.

[@timetowakeup6302]

This woman looks 47 years old

[@rosmarin2438]

But would you hit it Michael?

[@-_Y0urFather-]

She looks like a skin walker

[@zythum999]

Pearl. ❤

[@randyphillips1275]

Pearl is so right