SO CLOSE to Perfect - Lian Li x DAN A4-H20 Review

[@fjalls]

I love the no branding approach. For us that like everything as clean as possible this is a beautiful case

[@gamehawk55]

A word of advice to anybody with one of these power supplies with the "ribboned" style cables that are bulky, tight and hard to work with....If you take the time to carefully split each individual cable apart from each other and then use something like a couple pieces of velcro tape or zip ties to tidy the strands back together, they become INCREDIBLY easy to work with at that point and makes cable management an absolute breeze!.

[@4kdefinition70]

Mate your a legend. its as if no one else knows this. I usually only do it near the end to get my exact angles but yeah like you said, so much easier.

[@jamaicankyng]

Christ, your video is a cinematographer's candy store, sheesh. You made me notice that lighting is everything, and simplicity whilst having great knowledge is the cherry on top.

[@jessehigginson]

I really like the bland design. It's getting harder and harder to build a computer that doesn't have deadmau5's freaking laser show going on inside the case.

[@sparkplugbarrens]

Personally I like the squared off, toned down look of the case, reminds me of the formd t1, which looks Amazing!

[@ytzone654]

The standoffs were included when I received mine, I think reviewers didn’t get them. Really love this case though

[@m0untn621]

so has lian li started shipping the preorder batches?

[@ytzone654]

@@m0untn621 Yeah, I got mine 2 days ago.

[@z4k1_zaki65]

@@m0untn621 Yes

[@Craftimonium]

Mine had it as well

[@TauRuS_Gaming]

Does it support triple fan RTX 3090?

[@Dragon_Brand]

my first desktop case in 13 years is the A4-H20 that just arrived yesterday. I'm impressed how tiny it is.

[@Lanterns_light]

The H2O was always on my list since first hearing about it. I’ve been customising build purchases for it. Ordered mine today.

[@Jay-xq1dc]

This is brilliant, I've seen commercials on your channel before, but after decade on YT and new highlight function it's easy to see how much people love your ads, it's one moment I wanted to rewatch several times and made me smile. Good video, but sadly I don't want a case again with rizer cable. Any small ITX case without rizer will always win me due to issues and compability issues in future with rizer x standards.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks 🙏 we love to make fun ads. And yeah I’m with you… ITX all the way without needing a riser. -D.

[@CALiiGeddonTwo]

I love how simple it looks, nice and clean.

[@j0my77]

Just to clarify though, if you buy the corsair SF series of SFX psu's, they come with individually braided cables to make cable management much easier ;)

[@troletrain]

Dimitri's ads are the only ones I never skip.

[@mdinelle]

Just got mine today. Downsized from a NR200 and I am absolutely loving it.

[@jay_ta708]

How does it compare to NR200? Is the smaller form factor really a big difference? I’m debating between this and NR200P (tempered glass)… both are 50/50 budget doesnt matter much

[@mdinelle]

@@jay_ta708 the A4-H2O fits inside an empty NR200P. I say either case is fine. The A4-H20 has a sleeker finish and no TG panel. Depends on what kind of build you desire to accomplish.

[@Bigred10101]

For power supplies I always go with the Corsair sf650 platinum as they come with fully sleeved cables and it is like $40 more than most sfx units (here in Australia) and it is just completely silent too, they are just worth every cent that you spend on them for how easy it is to build with them

[@MrMilkyCoco]

Honestly if people do that they should just get the sf750z

[@gchatz6480]

@@MrMilkyCoco why would they need more than 650 watts, especially in sff? i too wanted to buy sf750 to have more headroom before psu fan start spining, but went for sf650 due to supply limitations and found out that its inaudible. i even have deshrouded my gpu and installed couple 120mm fans while using a very quiet fan curve and i still cant hear the psu fan.

[@Bigred10101]

@@MrMilkyCoco yeah true, although I would only go to the 750 watt unit if I went to a 3080 or above as everything is just so power efficient these days, for everything below that 650 watts is all you really need

[@tkpenalty]

@@gchatz6480 slightly lower heat output with the sf750

[@coolkatmehrfth]

AFAIK there is no Corsair SF650, only an SF600 and SF750. The 750 only comes platinum rated, however there is a gold and platinum rated sf600, and the platinum one is the silent one.

[@m0ntreeaL]

Best ITX Case

[@mdinelle]

Where did you buy it?

[@m0ntreeaL]

@@mdinelle from Caseking

[@mdinelle]

@@m0ntreeaL amazing, thanks for sharing! By the looks of your username, I presume you are from Montreal Quebec, if this assumption is accurate, was shipping and customs prohibitively expensive?

[@m0ntreeaL]

@@mdinelle No i'm from Germany 😛 so i have just 6€ shipping

[@mdinelle]

@@m0ntreeaL I guess I will have to stay patient :) Thanks again!

[@TheSaas1980]

everyone to their own i suppose.... aesthetically, its perfect!! I like the non-protruded front and clean brand-less boldly sleek eye candy. It's perfect, although i'm not so big on liquid cooled systems and have warmed up to tempered glass larger footprint units with the likes of the NR200P (fingers crossed will be grabbing one for my next upgrade to Zen 4 with the largest cooler which fits...maybe Fuma 2/Thermal takes assassin or similar). For the record I hate vertical cases regardless of reduced footprint benefits.

[@humilicious]

buy the side pannel extension so you can fit the nh d15

[@Eckokid8301]

“Getting smooooooth”, died laughing…literally watched that line 17 times! Great overall video my guy.

[@blackmennewstyle]

Man, these guys are putting lights on a new higher level all along that video :O

[@marksmello]

The video quality is always beautiful but this video was just next level. 🔥

[@香噴噴-p6f]

why nearly perfect ? it's completely perfect with this case ! it's budget and great quality

[@triliner254]

Budget for SFF* It's still like 120+ USD. Although I can understand the pricing.

[@mikeymaiku]

@@triliner254 you can find cases that hold less today that cost as much if not more. thanks to shipping changes aliexpress cases are getting super expensive to ship to canada. some "budget" cases for SFF exceed the cost of the origional case they were designed off of lol

[@Vilmir]

Big advice: order two Noctua 12x25 with your AIO, it is costly but huge improvement in noise with this case

[@GucciBodyBags]

I knew before building in my first sff case that i would likely have to shell out for high end fans. And i wasnt wrong. I tried corsair ml120 i had laying around and it was terrible. Got nf a12x25 and never looking back.

[@GR-cd2kx]

Hey Dmitry try out the Corsair SF750 PSU. The sleeved cables are juice for SFF. Edit: I’ll be sticking to my NR200/Nh-U12A combo for the foreseeable future

[@humilicious]

i got those too and just got my rog 3090 strix white still deciding to go with intel or amd lol

[@whistlehead9876]

I just want a case like this in mATX size. As soon as you go above ITX, all you get is either traditional towers with the psu stacked below the mobo, or cases like the O11 Minis which insist on being E-ATX compatible and swell unnecessarily. Show mATX some love!

[@vasileiospapadimitriou3005]

Asus ap201

[@rong.2457]

I just picked one up yesterday from MicroCenter. Starting the build now actually.

[@hootcompute]

Keep the SFF videos coming!

[@tarfeef_4268]

Still like my A4 (even though there's actually no mobo or GPU in it right now...), small enough to bring in a camera bag as a personal item on a plane along w/ peripherals, and I still fit a 120mm AIO plus a 2070 back when it was assembled. There's plenty of small GPUs that can fit in it along with an AIO in the GPU chamber to really go for good cooling. But if you want a full-length GPU and good CPU cooling, yeah, you do need a bit more space, and that's where this comes in, and looks good doing it. Though for my main rig, I gave up and went big, both maintenance and cooling just became too problematic to keep my main system as SFF.

[@nicolaialtwegg3849]

Can you enter a flight with an AIO? I thought that liquids are forbidden

[@PaddyMcMe]

I just noticed you sound like a real life version of Toki Wartooth from Metalocalypse. I like you even more now.

[@willhartsell2283]

I did my first sff build with the a4-h20 since the xpc shuttle in 2002. It was pretty painless and I’m really happy with the thermals. Running a 5950x and a 2080tiftw3.

[@mardarie]

What aio?

[@willhartsell2283]

@@mardarie ek 240mm

[@mardarie]

@@willhartsell2283 thanks. i'm waiting for my case to arrive and haven't decided what aio to go for 5950x + 3070 FE setup and im reading horror stories with the high temps on the cpu

[@willhartsell2283]

@@mardarie just remember it is a SFF case so what would be “high” or unacceptable in a “normal” case is “normal” or sometimes “good” in a SFF. My 5950 going full tilt with all cores at 100% at 4500mhz while the gpu is at 100% will result in temps at 80c on the cpu and about 65 on the gpu. This is a worst case scenario as rarely are they both maxed out at the same time for extended periods of time. This is with an ambient room temp of 26c and the fans at 100%. Since I game in VR with headphones on the noise isn’t an issue for me. Some may not like it though. I also have a fan curve setup so that for most of the time the fans are at 1300 until 70c. If I run at “stock” without pbo2 pushing the cores so high on clock speeds it runs very quiet and about 65c.

[@mardarie]

@@willhartsell2283 this will be my first ever build and i have no plans to OC for now. I had to decide between a laptop and SFF and chose to go this way because I love DYI projects :)) ambient is 21c so I guess it should be fine. thanks for replying.

[@Nyubug]

I loved my a4 sfx. So this is an ideal upgrade.

[@cristianperez7651]

I only managed to get the pcie 3 Riser model , Will i lose much performance in Mode 3 pcie with z690 and 3080ti? Thx

[@richardfarmer6570]

I have one pre ordered, can't wait.

[@JasonBleazard]

If only we could find them in Canada. I can't even find anywhere to order it or get any info on pricing

[@joconnell]

Dmitry, how is the phanteks cooler for pump whine? I’ve got a h20 on the way and want to get something quieter than an asetek gen 6 pump, if I can avoid the whine I’d love to. I hear you can turn down the pump rpm of an aio but it’ll damage it long term so that doesn’t seem like a fix to me.

[@jch7807]

The sponsor bit was funny, didn't mind watching it.

[@michaelthompson9798]

I personally got myself a couple Corsair SFX750w Platinum here in Australia 🇦🇺 on vg deals and use them in my N-Case M1 and NR200 builds and they have very flexible and individualised cabling for each connector making building a breeze 🥰🤯🤩👍

[@thomask1424]

The H20 has the definite advantage of having the motherrboard facing to the right with the GPU facing left, unlike every other sandwich-style case that I've looked at though, unfortunately, no glass panel to really show the board off. Win some, lose some. The NR200 (and the Q58 to a lesser extempt) are almost as big as the mATX case I just built in, which sort of defeats what I consider the SFF aspect of an ITX build.

[@khyron6]

I like the rubber feet good idea. Thanks :)

[@BronislawStark]

2:22 Anyone knows which Aorus model is that?

[@romanticdadbod]

I transferred all my components from a ROG Z11 here to my new case Dan A4-H2O and this SFF is life changing LOL! I still have RGB which I can turn off whenever I don't feel using them. Thanks to CHRIS PRATT, and you will never fool me still! MORE POWER!!!

[@LaudieTV]

I have a msi trident x.. it looks horrible and i want to transfer the components i have into a sff case. Is that possible?

[@Laserbabz]

The long stand-offs did come with my case, in the little baggy of screws. I think that might be a packing error in the unit you received.

[@StereoPenguin94]

Any can tell me if this case with a AMD GPU will heat up your small room? I had fractal ridge with 5900x and 6800xt and it would heat up my room bad even with my window ac! I move into a mAtx case and it so much colder now no heat but i want to build into this case due to easy portability

[@rattankumar4973]

Can you pls make vid on best budget gaming mice ....

[@Giorgos_Efstatoglou]

1:50 lol i though it was only on mine . really nice choice and trully portable case as og a4 was.

[@Paul-if1jq]

I am desperate for a smaller case ITX/MATX to fit my ROG Strix 4090 - any recommendations?

[@chriskautz3245]

I have just purchased the Lian Li x dan a4-h20 ... In the manual it gives a list of AIOs I wish to install Kraken Z53 , it only lists the X52,X53 and the X53 RGB . Have you tried to fit one ?

[@hoofhearted4]

whats with all these SFF not having dust filtration. I want to go SFF with my next build, but i think I'm going to have to go with a "small" ATX case. looking at the Thermaltake Tower 200 and Montech King 95 atm. (but wont be building till next year hopefully).

[@itsdeonlol]

SFF is so popular now!

[@marcobrigato3729]

Awesome, but I cannot find available in the market yet... Any idea where it can be purchased?!?

[@tr4nnel752]

This or the FormD T1. Please help. The FormD T1 is way more expensive after taxes, but can't help to think it is more special?

[@gcampes]

Just a correction: I got this case a Week ago, and it DOES include the standoffs for dual slot GPUs. I believe review units didn't include them (?)

[@Koleszko1000]

Hi. Will be it healthy for 2,5 HDD installed on the bottom panel under graphic card? I am asking if such mounting doesn't limit HDD lifetime because of high temperture on the upper drives part, with the electronic cooled from the bottom.

[@Slyzxx76]

Can you add a all in one cooler Cpu?

[@Gamingtechgg]

uncle Dimitri talking to stud Dimitri, legendary intro

[@vetsplay7899]

As someone who is named after one particular man who delved into the lions den. I can confirm, my case is very Dan.

[@waaluss]

What GPU was that? I have 3090 Aorus Xtreme, it has 317mm length, was it this one?

[@AnonymousGamre-im1ji]

Would Asus RTX 4070 TUF OC fit this case?

[@JonasHyldgaard]

i'd love to buy that case. but i've got a "arctic liquid freezer ii 240mm AIO" and it's too thick to fit in some cases that fits a 240mm AIO

[@itxaddict7503]

Not gonna lie. Looks pretty cool. Would have liked to see some innovation from the DAN line. Not much to set it apart from the other SFF cases on the market.

[@PunisherOfDeath101]

Sliger s610?! No riser issues air or Liquid compatability. Review on please!!

[@vegged0ut]

hey Dimitry any idea you know where to get that drawer unit that's in the background of this video? that would be perfect for my desk setup.

[@flipicaneze]

I so want to build with this, but I would get some custom psu made cables to keep my OCD in check.

[@leviathanpriim3951]

Thanks HC, great vid

[@trinityof1]

at 4.18 what is that vertical case in the background?

[@rey8639]

HI Dmitry, quick question. What is the model of he GPU that you have in your video that does not fit ? I am considering buying this case but it looks like i might have the same GPU - Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 3060 ELITE 12GB R2.0 LHR Graphics Card. Could you please advise if this card dose or doesn't fit ? Hope your well and Keeping safe.

[@daviarge]

air cooled with low profile noctua viable?

[@VoidlessOfSpace]

could you squeeze a micro atx board in it?

[@butler6396]

I love this case for professional environments. It's muted enough to allow me to build a professional business grade computer for my business's users.

[@EmberAEGBETO]

Do you have a review of that sliverstone case

[@ActuallyDKM]

Does the Strix 3090 fit? I need to know! Seriously considering this case, but if my card won’t fit, I’m going with the new NZXT H1.

[@abbyabz6940]

How's the fnatic bolt ⚡ ?

[@theSl33p3r62]

This is definitely on my list now. Currently using a N Case M1 and was not looking forward to going back to mATX in order to accommodate oversized modern GPUs.

[@davidwong1429]

Black or silver? Which one is better?

[@nickgomez28]

Nothing like some Canuck humor to end my day!

[@JuanCAraujoS]

How does this compare with the water cooled version of the IQUNIX ZX-1?

[@europason2293]

Way cheaper and comes with a Gen4 riser cable. Also compatible with 3 slot GPU.

[@Vilmir]

A 65w cpu can be cooled with a 55mm air cooler in this case, I did it for a few days waiting for my 240 AIO. It is noisy though and the GPU hot air is not evacuated efficiently.

[@CALiiGeddonTwo]

I have an interesting idea for a v2 of this case. Make it where you can move the motherboard tray back 1 slot for 2 slot GPUs instead of having offset screws for the PCIe adapter. Moving back the motherboard 1 slot will allow for larger CPU air coolers. This would probably mean that the power cable would need to go in under the GPU instead of above it in the back.

[@ranakirti]

no tempered glass option...?

[@kepskey]

Can i use an air cooler for it?

[@MrEREDIT]

definitely need to hydro dip those case panels could come up with some really cool looking PC towers for such a small PC.

[@sbacon92]

a box you need to wipe?

[@Zyrk01]

Any updates on ETA for the H2O? Its currently on pre order.

[@max-lee]

why is having the computer on the right side is normal? i use my mouse on the right side.

[@omerytzhaki5258]

@HardwareCanucks What is the minimal cable length from the PSU to the GPU for something like the 3080FE (I am using the corsair SF750 PSU)? I want a custom 2x8Pin to 12 Pin cable with shortest length.

[@shadowarez1337]

Think I'll take the Shift as my next SFF case to chase got my hands on 2 Ghost S1's now I need this new one for a upgrade for wife's work from home build. (Who am I kidding) she will never use the power I'll cram in there I just want to build in it 🤣

[@Warhorse469]

Was that GPU the Aorus Master ? I have the Aorus Master 6800 XT dose anyone know if the Aorus Master RTX 3080 is the same size as it AMD counter part ?

[@samgoff5289]

You can literally look at the product page to find out

[@3lcost3]

Will it overheat if I aircool it?

[@yeahyusuf7]

I feel like 2024 or 2025 will be the year of vertical sfx case. Which I personally prefer for desk real estate

[@JezyYT]

I’ve got the Gecko 250 in Lapis Blue coming up on my channel 👍🏻

[@spektrumB]

What? Hardware Canucks must be getting an engineering sample. The two long stand-off for two-slot card are included in my retail A4-H2O.

[@Yuu-oc7ye]

No luck, can't find or buy it anywhere as of now...😔 But will still keep looking or wait.😤

[@katzicael]

Pity it won't fit the bigger RTX30-series cards like the Gaming X Trio I have :(

[@telvinsnider8797]

You just saved me from ordering this case

[@trowawayacc]

So a sidearm T1 that is on stock? Make it white and i am sold!

[@FranklinReid_]

I'm more impressed with the use of your SL60W 😅, switched to the Amaran 60D for this type of use case.

[@No1zy]

What’s the mouse in the thumbnail?

[@Amariths1]

I like how you leave the panel open for the gpu, would it be bad if i left it open the whole time?

[@MaxRei_Xamier]

I dont think it really would be because its not like its got a huge gap or dust would go in especially when the front panel connectors are on the side and not the front like the dan a4 sfx

[@Austin1990]

This is a decent mid-tower replacement, but I agree with your comments about the taller form factors being better. The shorter size does not give much more desk space because it is not short enough to place things on top of. It being very narrow would allow it to sit next to your table legs on the floor without blocking your feet. Or, you'd barely notice it on the side of the desk.

[@mdinelle]

When and where can I order one in Canada?

[@gracicot42]

I'm still trying too. I tried to send a message to lian li on reddit and twitter and they didn't responded.

[@mdinelle]

@@gracicot42 j'ai vu le listing sur le site américain de Newegg, ça ne devrait pas tarder pour le Canada!

[@gracicot42]

@@mdinelle Oh ça serais excellent! Ça fais quelques annés que j'attends pour me faire un build AM5/DDR5. Ce case va être parfait pour ça. Avec tous les shortages quand je vois un produit out of stock j'ai toujours peur qui revienne jamais haha, mais il devrait être dispo bientôt

[@mdinelle]

@@gracicot42 ca fait depuis 2015 que je veux un build mini-itx. J'ai fait le move l'année dernière. J'ai un cooler master NR200, mais C'est pas assez petit à mon goût

[@joejasat]

Made the mistake of building my first pc in the H2O but I just love the thing

[@Zoduk]

Why was it a mistake? I never built one as I prefer laptips but its small enough I might try it

[@joejasat]

@@Zoduk it was incredibly stressful and a lot of problems arose that were difficult to solve without the experience of having built a pc before

[@ahyes589]

How do you like the case now? I just ordered one, but I'll be swapping all components from a NZXT H210 apart from a new GPU.

[@hov2435]

Is the mouse in the thumbnail the new Fnatic Bolt 😏?

[@Noname304y2u2]

how dare you called it bland. It looks awesome!