So I challenged the RANK 1 GUILD in ALL of Throne and Liberty...

[@jaidenciantar1079]

Bro whaled so hard he doesn't know the prices of items, he just buys them lol

[@jimmy2643]

I was like only 2k!? Dont get me wrong i've had 7k in sales, but hot damn

[@zAsiansoup]

@@jimmy2643 2k ? you mean 25k right ?

[@ojcfont7981]

@@zAsiansoup25k was on lost ark, yall just say anything now days.

[@walther89]

yep thats why p2w is crap

[@Mandark320]

Telling them too push up the stairs with him when he’s the only one in the group that didn’t get put to sleep for 8s is peak comedy. Nobody even felt like telling dude.

[@SplitPushLoL]

you arent gonna win zvz against good players without playing around big cooldowns, the calls are literally just "push" "keep pushing"

[@Jsiano91]

It's really sad... I miss BDO

[@IdeeFixesLes]

My server is infected by zergs the top 8 guilds are all allied not officially they just are trading boons every war controlling the whole map ggz

[@2fAst2r3aL]

yep game is dead already

[@jonezee-2]

Cry about it

[@basedgod8636]

what server?

[@2fAst2r3aL]

@@jonezee-2 no don’t think I will I’ll just play something else lol

[@sesh2354]

wouldnt it just be easier to switch servers at that point? lol

[@wegbored]

That first day on Cherno was so fun, had a blast playing with you guys while it lasted. Hope to see you again soon!

[@samnguyen6172]

this was a few week ago if anyone is confused

[@shaynejohnston452]

Yeah I figured shroud already quite after whaling out and getting stomped

[@paradopx8618]

“Guys gotta push up” lmao this games strategy is so derpy

[@GiverrionBG]

Callers are Just bad. Try to compare this to Albion callers and its different level

[@96Caleb96]

When you spend $20k just to get one shot haha - this is why as f2p i just chilled and have fun doing pve and open world dungeon pvp, no point getting serious there's no shot at competing.

[@denjii9]

he spent 20k on lost ark lmao

[@pipoy_lo]

@@denjii9 true but he still spent a few thousands on this game already lol

[@meowingduck]

spent 20 euro on lucent and 10 on first battle pass and im 3550, starting a week late with 0 idea

[@Silver-zg4ch]

who ever is calling push push and tornados just pass the calls to someone else .... just pushing wont cut it you see 5 to 6 guys dropping on you to debuff you and lock you in place and instead of killing them before they can do anything you just push and die because your characters are locked in place .... good job

[@josecordero1555]

He is using tornados for engage...

[@Creamberry16]

You kindda need this shroud: Precious Purification Stone

[@Flosstradamuss]

Waste of lucent. It’s only viable in small scale. You’ll immediately be re CC’d

[@LuciferosDad]

@@Flosstradamussbut you get it once and it lasts forever? Every 2 minutes

[@cocochopkitten]

​@@Flosstradamuss bro said waste of lucent to the best item in the game lol

[@dan_963_]

@@Flosstradamuss waste? pls dont listen to this guy. ...

[@balmyonpc]

It’s very good for getting out of sleep bombs- no point using against GS stuns as they combo multiple stuns - but yeah the first push where they all get slept - that would have been amazing to purify and just get out of that.

[@nickyrai9366]

Whichever guild has most money wins 😂😂

[@Los.08]

“Guys, get arrows.” Lmao what kinda call 😂

[@Bboss83]

the calls: tornado tornado tornado tornado 😂

[@wheeldollabeel]

guild leaders are so annoying and egotistical. “you guys gotta push up the ramp you all just froze there and stopped” like yea no shit bro they all god slept. they wouldve pushed up if they couldve

[@contaim7227]

😂😂😂 if it isnt happening to them they are oblivious. No clenses, nice nice.

[@dei787]

It should have top guilds from other server to jump to your server in that way you can fight the top guilds

[@EpheriumGG]

GG shroud man

[@xDarkjoy]

streamers get wrecked by real gamers. imagine that...

[@lordvaldus839]

Yea shrouds skills don’t translate to this game at all and fights like this are about strategy more than anything.

[@bojox3m2]

enemies be like: "we can hear your gameplan"

[@MightySheep]

In the very first engage I think you guys needed to get pvp flagged by attacking an opponent before doing tornados. When the nameplates are orange and you do an AoE like tornado nothing happens lol. Its a very stupid game design. After that its just a nightmare trying to retake this riftstone, we fought there too at one point.

[@EatMyVlogs]

I am firm believer that everything in this game that is happening is intended by the devs. They know how the game cycle will go cause of KR, they know the streamers and rich whales will pour money in to get the best gear to zerg and take over the whole game and then get sunken cost fallacy and feel like they have to keep playing to keep up with the PvP and keep their status eventually killing the games new player experience and leaving it in a perpetual p2w hell. But that's just a theory!

[@stonersowybogacz844]

As u can see streamers got fckd by randoms

[@blackspirit1129]

but then there's another route where devs will give away hard-earned gears to make new player easy to catch up and then older player will moan about it. pick your poison

[@cubecuban428]

did people learn nothing from new world being DOA with way less p2w

[@contaim7227]

New world was once great. Over 1m steam charts. It just slowly did absolutely nothing for content and only got buggier and buggier. They never heard of improvements 😂

[@ratox9513]

my guild also attacked that cherno stone, its such a bad position once u lose the initial fight. Nearly impossible to get up there

[@bombaclot5109]

My guild also defended Chernobog riftstone yesterday. It was a battle until the last second

[@Lesminster]

Mass sleep -> gg xD It looks like they started every engagement with mass sleep. You haven't. What a power move to give you def to own you from disadvantageous position xD

[@WICBands]

Bro just standing around 😂

[@RionDevano]

6:30 im getting goose bumps 😂

[@TurtleFrogDog]

Worlds worst shot caller

[@virajp8726]

What server is Shroud in?

[@NovaGamingFPS]

xeroth

[@rhinanthe3884]

this clip when they are in Chernobog server

[@ChiefStoneCold]

dont say you havent been warned

[@doridori8]

I mean they went up the worst way possible…why let them have high ground lol

[@wootwootwoot2062]

3months later video how I spent over 25k on another mmo that I don’t play anymore.

[@cool_me5331]

I think This is an old fight shroud has around 18k health now and he’s on Xeroth server and Etherium isn’t on that server. It’s the Server im on.

[@epictcg4424]

People who dont know how to pvp in the game or have no decent gear is the one complaining about the pvp. The game pvp is solid and large scale have many nuanced that plays into it. And if you want one of the best pvp game then go to BDO. You get full control of your Iframe, SA, and playstyle. Also, majority of mmo, gears matter. So I dont know how people got the idea of I will play 2 hours a day and be as strong as someone thats playing 5 to 8 hours or people that swipe. In about 90% of mmo if youre only playing 1-2 hours, good luck and dont play MMO. Play something like battle royal,moba, or a survival game. You will have much more fun there then mmo if your playtime is that low.

[@timothylewis7794]

For yall to win. Yall cant stream. I got a feeling they stream yall channel while fighting yall

[@6locc6a6y_fps]

Bro, the igl on shrouds team has a mildly disturbing voice 😂 Good igl tho

[@beestboy2001]

ur shotcaller is trash lmao

[@danielmarques1048]

why not have stream deley? since they are streamsniping

[@lucianozamora3649]

Get a better caller, he just say tornado and didn't even know what he doing , call the basics, flashwave in x direction in 321 dude

[@shanesullivan1931]

Shroud buy me a queens bow…. I’m a broke kid trying to make it, love ya brother

[@Radiant_Joys]

Would disabling alliances fix the giant Zerg politics ?

[@Oihmas]

Kanon finally finds the game where he can be competitive… makes p2w guild so he can stay top on the game he’s been playing for a year and still gets bodied by the same f2p degen homies that farmed him away from BDO 😂😂😂… Moral of the story competitive pvp mmos aren’t for you son!! Good content Shround ❤

[@CupapiMunyanyo123]

go to chu go to chu go tu chu

[@zAsiansoup]

396 Likes, says all dude xD ... You destroy everything what ppl make to follow you xD

[@InsurancePlz]

that shot caller sounds SOO annoying 💀💀sounds like always on the verge of crying

[@rearkgaming4804]

tbh splitting the team will make easier to them to wipe you guys out and also too slow to move in and too many comms

[@lcar0808]

Trash ass calls just spamming words like who the hell let this guy lead? If I'm the healer of a group I will be furious if all I'm hearing is "push, push, push" like dude you are controlling an entire guild and your chosen words are broad with no specific goal.

[@gangnamkid9635]

lmao NA is so peaceful here in EU we got like each guild 4 alliances and couple of naps its a ZvZ not a GvG

[@dominikhorvat3367]

Bro said in NA so change this "ALL"

[@exo-skeet2933]

But they lost to Vanguard...

[@Black-wi7ro]

if they are streamsniping thats sad especially with having more experience playing the game

[@TheLoneWolf_1]

Omg I hate when ppl spam words

[@TimeManInJail]

Lol.... As a moba player the guy cant do calls

[@Hostobi]

class diff

[@TheBigHitBandit]

yeah idk watching this pvp is ass and playing on chernbog server i can say its ass. Very buggy, characters slide, animations and charges stall, CC lasts 15 days etc. Game is cooked but still fun at the same time.

[@virusx6233]

No front against you guys, but movement is pretty meh, to cloudy. Gw2 WvW Players know what i mean.

[@contaim7227]

😂😂 cant even really roll dodge in this game either cuz its tied to your sprint and block, so you just retardedly eat everything and hope u kill first. Spam buttons at its finest. Missing my power Harb movement rn this shit ass.

[@contaim7227]

If they took away down state and made guild wars all action no tab itd be the best game in the world.

[@deko2298]

$$ can't buy skill video

[@Avadar1]

Most streamers are so bad in MMORPGS that includes this guy

[@PejorativeDaedal]

With this kind of shotcalling, u guys have no chance. No rolling CCs, noone is taking note of cooldowns, no one is baiting bombs. Yall are sitting headless ducks. Best restructure and find a better shot caller.

[@oneshotgrow]

PUSH 1 PUSH 1 PUSH 1 STAIRS STAIRS STAIRS HERE WE GO HERE WE GO MOVE MOVE MOVE UP HERE UP HERE UP HERE

[@Black-wi7ro]

doesnt matter if your shotcalling is terrible or perfect if they are streamsniping

[@lordvaldus839]

@@Black-wi7ro them stream sniping doesn’t matter if you never had a plan to begin with

[@Black-wi7ro]

@@lordvaldus839 ya u want them to have a plan so they can streamsnipe and the plan be useless anyway

[@lordvaldus839]

@@Black-wi7ro it’s a war if bro is willing to stream people are willing to see it there is no rule for watching his stream. Even without someone sniping they would have lost the same because they weren’t coordinated.

[@razvm]

You need to come on Europe , that guild si nothing compare with no sleep Europeans :))))

[@Flosstradamuss]

How did Shroud whale and only have 12k hp? What build is he following 😂

[@rusty2969]

Idk if he just didn't put health traits on any of his gear but yeah it's weird as seeing a SnS/GS player with 3k less HP than my staff/dagger build 😂

[@rhinanthe3884]

i think this was an old clip where they are still in Chernobog? now they are in Xeorth

[@Syuqa]

He said in an earlier video "You don't need tanks yet" while in a Cave of Destruction, so I'm assuming he's full dps

[@xDarkjoy]

@@Syuqa he's a noob, lmao.

[@TheFallenGodInaros]

This was vs us back in week 1 so everyone was running greens w some blues which is a reason why hp is low but he also listen to Kannon which he puts hp regen in his gear without max hp

[@ryuu0013]

11k hp tank wtf

[@rhinanthe3884]

this is an old clip like few weeks ago when they in Chernobog server

[@peachesandroses99]

i had a 10k tank in slaughter today and he said healer is the problem not him... i admit im a dps and dk how tanks are supposed to be but i had the same amount of health almost😂

[@prisonmykee2595]

Enjoy it now before it dies this game is set up so that players will be the ones that will make players quit. The game already gatekeeps f2p players enough but also whales and toxic players as well. Im having fun in the game but i personally do not have enough free time to catch up and i sure as hell wont swipe unless its like a battle pass that i can do at my own term.

[@beestboy2001]

ngl its not THAT bad, im completely F2P except BP and im top 30 ranked in kills and in the number 3 guild on my server at 3.1k CP. its definitely doable but need some luck with drops fs

[@prisonmykee2595]

@ i don’t disagree with you but i also feel like ill be right its just a matter of time. That being said i do love the game i just think ill have some serious issues but if im wrong even better.

[@farragun3131]

What guild were they fighting?

[@dayoftherope1690]

Epherium literally the best guild in the game ran by a multi millionaire lol

[@primemagz34]

That was not 60v70 more like 40v70 outmatched and outgunned

[@maning04]

This is why I only do pve

[@freddy_king]

KR vets + whales ... hard to fight against

[@E-JFD]

This games pvp is so cooked I regret wasting the time getting to 50

[@henriquegraca1976]

There is no best guild or player....just the one that was more stupid and idiot and swiped more.😂😂😂...skill aint a thing un this game.

[@thegodcyborg9708]

I'm glad I don't play the games I am not good at or like because I feel these games will die and all that progress will be for nothing in my opinion.

[@carterfn5939]

No one in this game is “really good” just good gear. The fact that evasion and hit mean so much you can be the best player in the game and on a mid geared player have 0 chance of beating a high gear player because they’ll auto evade ur damage. There’s less manual dodging blocking and aiming and more gear based dodging and and hit chance. Wish it was actually you aiming and dodging yourself. No one will ever take pvp in this game serious

[@Michaelno]

oh so guilds are controlling this shit huh? gg i aint playing anymore

[@Gamer-fy8qm]

3400CP as F2P and this game just isn't that fun outside of some riftstone battles. Everything else is a zergfest nightmare. I expect a bunch of people to quit after the first couple siege battles.

[@terencebrock5206]

Good cause idk how people like you seen this game for what is and still complain about it you knew what you were getting into go play something else

[@Souzz__]

​@@terencebrock5206Dont worry, he will, him and a bunch of other ppl like he said. Its a natural process, the hype will pass and only the ones that really liked the game will remain, its normal

[@MightySheep]

Im also 3.4k f2p I dont even tihnk the riftstone battles are that fun lol. I dont mind doing my daily dungeons just because its like doing a lootbox gamba but other than that theres not much in this game I can really describe as 'fun'

[@sagyysol393]

❤❤❤👍👌👌

[@-franticthread1326]

The combat is so bad

[@atamooni6969]

Just ridicilous that you can roll everyone with gear. There is no skill in this game, only swiping.

[@PejorativeDaedal]

If thats how u saw the slaughter then u are one of the pigs lol.

[@wiebiebie]

Rank 2 guild in ALL of Throne and Liberty no? Requiem was first place

[@thienhua9100]

They literally transfer to different servers, beating the living crap out of everyone and leave. These guys are ranked 1.

[@ZEN-TakenZ]

Requiem transfered from our server because of Nixx. Says everything.

[@sauce976]

what server Tanksandliberty are on today?

[@DampTube]

Who? 🤡

[@cosminmocanu5254]

game is fun and has huge potential but changes are needed. I had my share of fun by being on a server that is not controlled by one big zerg. But i see ppl facing this problem were many guilds are allied. Limit or remove allied guilds but even then they can just do alliances under the hood. If u wanna be competitive in this game is really not a good idea, unless u farm with ur wallet or play 12h a day on 8 alts

[@MrSydjames]

Make friends and form a guild. This is an MMO and there's no point of solo playing.

[@contaim7227]

​@MrSydjames theres always a point in solo play no matter the game and no game should completely cuck the solo and empower the zerg when zerg always has insane advantage due to pile diving bodies on you 😂

[@MrSydjames]

@@contaim7227 no, the fact that this was advertised as old school guild based MMO, it was clear as day you need to be in a guild. Its human nature for people to join winning alliances. You have to play politics if you want to contest them, ask other guilds to form a bigger alliance.

[@WICBands]

Found your channel just to see how not to play TnL. Keep up the bad work you mark!

[@GezGrimm]

So glad to see you waste your money, whales are so bad.

[@collintaddiken1400]

watched 2 1/2 mins and am clicking off. this games pvp looks shit

[@doomshaman5853]

You bashing your guildies in a game that has very little to do with skill. Make it so everyone has the same gear, stats and numbers in PvP and then we talk about skill. Game needs PvP balance yesterday. The very first thing, any serious PvP game has a 5 seconds of cc immunity after cc and break free of cc mechanic.

[@cali4806]

Tbh i have never this kind of shallow game before, no pve content makes it look like just a struggle to keep up with whales in pvp. No honesty community only scummy and dodgy “guild” which are like a group of friends trying to scam members with loot drops. This is why i freaking hate f2p crap. Poor people mentality trying just oozes out of some people. This game might not even make it to 2025 lol blame the community for killing it themselves

[@peachesandroses99]

idk i found a good pve guild (and we r in top 10 too), with fair looting, which i admit... is sadly rare the pve content is the usual, dungeons, dailies and u can farm the abyss token stuff as well, plus guild event stuff, i dont like pvp so i try to avoid even if it seems like is the main endgame aspect

[@ChiefStoneCold]

so unless you like them gay guild names im telling you this game aint worht your time FR once you get 50 open world boss loot is what you want but these ppl who got gay guild names is gatekeeping NO JOKE dont say you havnt been informed you would have more fun on WOW/albion/otherMmos at this point

[@ChiefStoneCold]

this is whats goin on in this game and its not fair they need to not allow eclipse during a peacful event and we would be good but gay guild names are gatekeeping end game loot if you are new i dont reccomend you get into this lame game cause all you got to do at 50 is open world bosses for the best loot

[@izzux2121]

they fought goblins on KR ( where it looked the same as u guys vs them except they were they losing ones ) they had enough practice how to do it right haha

[@GrentonCasts]

We never fought goblins on KR lol. EPH went from hyperboost to not playing the game and Goblins didn't play Hyperboost. I did fight goblins in a no name guild when EPH stopped playing and half their alliance are absolute DEMONS and the other half are scripters lol. Goblins do crank I think they're on JP now

[@kingamer93]

Why is the dude fn screaming the whole time like for real stfu

[@in2it85]

*" Best "* 🤣 aka *The ones who payed the most.* *1/10 Dogshit Game btw.*

[@xBaristaPaul]

Throne of No Content....

[@ajjames1960]

imagine hating a game just because it a success which you didnt expected no wonder you are yapping. im sorry if no one play your favorite game. alot of people loving it anyways and you are just 1 person lol

[@xBaristaPaul]

@@ajjames1960 wha hell you talking about expecting anything….. ive played it, end gamed it. Done, no content….

[@EdwardKenwayIV]

@@ajjames1960 I remember my first beer.

[@milksalesman22]

@@ajjames1960the game failed in KR and it’ll fail in NA, idk what pipe dream you people are living on but this game has absolutely no future unless they make some big changes