So is Acolyte Worth Watching Now?

The Acolyte is over, we take a look at what we like and what we didn't like and offer some recommendations on whether you should watch this show.
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[@TheWarmachine375]

Darth Plagueis was just standing there.... *MENACINGLY!!!*

[@simplykenobi]

I screamed! I was so excited I havent had this feeling watching something since end game

[@jonathanjoaohernandez3746]

Was a Phantom menace in the episode

[@isaackim7675]

He gives off that Gollum vibes

[@empiricalpurity]

@@simplykenobiYou’re comparing this to End Game?

[@thelurkerfrombelow8588]

Wasted cameo.

[@lukeclement7625]

The problem with all-or-nothing thinking is that you will be willing to overlook the mistakes of those whom you admire and give absolutely no grace to those whom you despise.

[@_o_]

Yes, the debate-style zero-sum framework we're all addicted to makes everything flat and reductive. It's seductive though: 3 dimensional thinking isn't instinctual, takes effort, and isn't as fun as just picking a side and letting confirmation bias take it from there.

[@dookula]

Ep 1, 2, 5 - mediocre. Ep 3, 4, 6 and 7 were abysmal. It's not all garbage but there was not much to recommend either!

[@philgodin6493]

​@@dookula Doing exactly the thing OP observed.

[@matthewwatkins7473]

Very true, and not just of the criticism of this show.

[@TomTriyingtothink]

Only a sith deals in absoluts

[@jabloneynophony1875]

They promoted the show like it was all about Mae and Osha. But it ended up being more about Sol and Qimir. And I think that was a good thing.

[@nathanielzarny1176]

I with that was the case. I think their storyline has much more to it then that of the twins. But it's an uneven mess of both that doesn't really know what it wants to be.

[@gamedude412]

Was it even that, headland said this was supposed to be about two sisters and the dive into the sith or the gayest Star Wars or an allegory to her sister hating her or ….

[@cloudmaster182]

​@@gamedude412 you definitely got that information secondhand and never actually bothered to check what she actually said lmao

[@Crocthunder]

A s2 can now focus on just Osha and Qimir doing darkside stuff would be sublime, Vern trying to find out about how her apprentice is still alive causing trouble is a fine angle as well as Darth P in the mix. Just less Jedi order as a whole as s1 can be the "almost found out early about the sith " season

[@cloudmaster182]

@@Crocthunder yea can't have too many close calls tbh. Vernestra goes on a wild goose chase but theres never any evidence to back her up. Maybe she's so obsessed w finding him, starts to believe "the Sith" have returned, the other Jedi start to think she's kinda losing it. Shes removed from positions of authority. Probably doesnt end well, or maybe she just decides to drop the whole thing. Qimir and Osha don't even know she's looking for them. Hego Damask finds out theyve beem raising alarms, happens to meet a young student named palpatine, decides qimir and osha have outlived their usefulness and have become liabilities. Sets up a season 3? Idk man

[@Lilyfied_]

Honestly Sol is such an interesting character, he is the embodiment of "one could do wrong things even with good intentions." Him not trusting the witches, not stoping Tolbin from barging into the fortress, killing the head witch, choosing Osha over Mae out of personal reasons and letting Mae fall, and lying about it throughout her whole life, all of it was done under the belief that he was protecting Osha, who he thought was going to be scrificed for her sister's accension, but ended up breaking her whole life. And the fact that all this actions driven by the "noble intentions" of the Jedi, ties in to the point of the whole "the acolyte kills without a weapon, and the acolyte kills the dream." and it is quite interesting. Osha, in the most personal level, has now become the antithesis of what the Jedi stands for. She is now the living proof that the Jedi's belief could completely destroy a life of a thoroughly innocent person. And that action has now caused the Jedi order (or Vernestra) to cover up the truth, lying to the face of the government officials, creating a moral weakness in the order that in one day would be exploited by Palpatine. I'm very intersted to see where the story would go the next season!

[@markuhler2664]

While I could agree with a lot you say I think it falls apart if you take into account that Sol, as much as I connected with him, is a lousy Jedi. You wrote that the Jedi's beliefs completely destroyed the life of an innocent person. However had Sol maintained control over his emotions, as a Jedi should, the disaster that occurred on Bendock would not have happened. Further, even taking into his lapses, he and the Jedi really did nothing wrong. At every confrontation the Jedi did not attack but rather reacted and tried to deescalate the tensions.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@markuhler2664 You lost me on the 'Jedi did nothing wrong' when it's clear in EP7 that Sol and Torbin did go against the Council order. Sol bears responsibility here as he went against Master Indara orders.

[@EACru2002]

I mean without trying to get too "real world" with it, the obvious metaphor here is Sol is the overeager Christian missionary, goes to some underdeveloped part of the world, and believes in his heart of hearts with the "noblest" intentions that he's saving these children by taking them. Again, not trying to be too real world and piss people off, and I'm not saying this analogy is 100% one to one or accurate or fair, it's not, but as a rough analogy, that's what they were clearly going for. And so everything you can say about Sol, both positive and negative is the same you could say for that individual. Do I believe that Sol genuinely and with complete good intentions believe he's doing the right thing? Yes. And so do a lot of those people that I mentioned in my analogy. But where does that come from? Maybe it comes from the doctrine from the institutions these people follow and maybe that's the issue? I'm not here trying to answer that question, but I'm saying this show is clearly probing that question. In a sense, if Qui Gon is the John the Baptist to Anakin's Space Jesus, then Sol is, "What if that hero complex gets out of control?"

[@Cyfiero]

By your logic, Sol choosing Mae over Osha and letting Osha fall would be just as inexcusable. There was no winning for him in that specific dilemma because he was physically unable to save both. When he _had_ to make a choice or let both of them die, it is natural that he would choose the one who was supportive of the Jedi over the one who started the fire then locked the Jedi inside the fort to help Koril kill them. Sol really catalyzed the whole disaster with his odd obsession over Osha, but what we were shown in the penultimate episode is that it was not one-sided. Multiple actors all around contributed to the tragedy in their own way. Mae _did_ sadistically threaten to kill her sister then set the fire that would destroy her entire home. Torbin randomly rushed back to the Coven in his impatience to finish the investigation and go home. Koril had Mae lock Sol and Torbin inside so she can kill them. The Jedi didn't set out to massacre the Coven at any time, but Indara breaking their possession of Kelnacca somehow either killed them or knocked them unconscious for Mae's fire to kill them all. Finally Sol accidentally killed Anesaya because she transformed into a smoke demon right next to him while simultaneously dissipating Mae, and it was reasonable for him to mistake this for an attack. The Jedi also did not withhold the full truth Osha for malicious reasons. Indara genuinely believed that Mae starting the fire, destroying her home, and killing all the other witches, Koril included, was the technical truth. Sol also believed that. The truth they withheld from Osha was Sol's hand in killing Anesaya, which Indara had insisted would be to shield Osha from further trauma. We were shown how a series of misunderstandings, miscommunication, and foolish errors by all parties resulted in the terrible tragedy, and yet the final episode homes in on a single Jedi's single mistake and hammers it again and again as the only detail that matters. That's the culmination of the perspectivism the show seemed to champion at first. It is true that Sol is an interesting character, but the final episode ends up using him as a strawman for a polemic against the Jedi by ignoring all the nuances they had established or Mae's own established guilt in destroying her home.

[@mateo10734]

@@EACru2002it also calls back to the conversation between the senator and Vernestra ep.8. The Jedi don’t see themselves as normal citizens and above others, its like the “white savior” complex where they think these kids need to be in “modernized” communities but at the end of the day, where their from is their identity. Taking kids from their homes under the guise of helping them, harms them in a way as well like you said.

[@hendrikgreiner8449]

I really liked that the fight of Qimir and Sol was so markedly different from the last one we had. With the use of slow motion, the angles and the movement it felt more like it leaned into classic chinese martial arts movies with their wires and everything. It wasnt as fast as some prequel fights, but that is not a criticism, because it made it easier to follow the fight itself.

[@walteredgar2700]

And Sol didn’t fall for the head but this time. He was ready for it, which surprised Qimir and that got his light saber destroyed

[@kdusel1991]

Apparently the people who were behind the Vader hallway scene in rogue one did the choreography for this show. They need to be hired in the future!

[@dagoodistever7186]

Maybe it’s just me but I kinda didn’t like the fight but I think that’s because I expected the ep 5 fig it again

[@kdusel1991]

​@@dagoodistever7186that's fine. I liked both fights.

[@dagoodistever7186]

@@kdusel1991 I can agree smilo is one of my favorite characters from his fighting

[@SpottedHares]

I like that the Senator turned out to be this universes version of Allen. In one scene he went from “the bad politician” to the only guy talking any sense in the room.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

If you talking about Senator Rayencourt, yeah, he predicted the coming of Anakin Skywalker, and his not even a Force-sensitive.

[@thedoctordallin]

My biggest criticism for the show (which I overall enjoyed but was significantly dissapointed by at points) is that it should not have been 8 episodes. It shoulf have either had more run time to cook its themes and events longer, or it could have been cut down to be shorter with better pacing. 8 episodes was the wrong length for this show, and insisting every show be 6-8 episode "extended movies" is really hurting a lot of Disney+ shows.

[@sn0wgnome]

yeah, you have a good point

[@LegendslayX]

I think it should have been released all at once. It’s better if you watch it all in one go.

[@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime]

I don’t know why they just won’t make actual tv shows. Like Andor.

[@JMansClan]

It should have been repurposed, either in film form or something else. I really don't enjoy these 25-30 minute run times.

[@Raxeleus]

@@LegendslayX That would have made for a better watch experience I agree. But it hurts the discourse. Netflix dropped the entirety of Pluto in one go and I was so hardpressed to find anyone who wanted to talk about it after a week. All the conversations were done.

[@CATDRL2]

I watched this series week by week, and I had to binge-watch this for a friend who hadn't seen it yet. I must admit that watching it in one sitting was much better. I enjoyed the series, I stayed away from the hate, if I saw it, I just ignored and continued on to another channel. Thanks, Allen, for standing up to that, and your comments on it are appreciated.

[@drprofessor756]

All in all, it just seemed very first drafty to me, like I could see the bare bones of it but rather than working out how the story unfolds things just happened for the sake of getting where the script needed to get to. As you said, seemed like they were just concerned with checking the boxes and moving on. Shame given some of the interesting ideas presented.

[@nickchiodo5815]

Exactly.

[@nathanielzarny1176]

Totally. Like we never really understood what oshas intentions were. This show wants us to be emotionally invested but doesn't put in the effort to make us FEEL for the characters. Everyone is just kinda a plot robot without strong personalities, and in a show that's supposed to be about 2 sisters finding their way in a messed up galaxy that's really bad. Instead of having nothing conversations we should have been learning more about them. What do the sisters like to do in their free time? Let them have some small talk for us to get to know them better.

[@Wyomingchief]

I don't understand it at all, first you've got The two main characters who switched sides more than my ex switched her mind and that's quite the accomplishment. Then you've got this green Jedi who Apparently Is evil? And then I'm trying to figure out the motivation for the little furry dude Which makes no sense. And for Sol to be a master Jedi he's literally the most incompetent and weak Jedi Ever. Again what the hell was this series even about. And yeah, they tried to get a 2-second Yoda Cameo, and I'm guessing that's supposed to be Darth plagueis?😂😂

[@erikmichal525]

From the perspective of a person who didn't care for this series, that's what drives me nuts. Disney has all the resources in the world but is leaving a precious franchise half baked. It's maddening.

[@onikaizer]

The acting of Osha made me roll my eyes so many times. I agree with your assessment

[@lso8000]

I don't know why they made her act through a tunnel most of the time, like purposefully held back, instead of being more fully expressive, more dare I say realistic/human. The restricted way in how she talks, everything. Like they told her to be stoic and unfeeling most of the time. I wonder if that is a direction thing that they told the actress not to act normal lol.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@lso8000 Amanda can act but I think they wanted her to play a certain way for the mystery aspect. Some of it work, some didn't. It didn't stop me from enjoying the series.

[@lso8000]

@@babytoshiro7014 That is true, it didn't stop me from enjoying the series as well. Some people including myself are socially awkward and "act" not "normal", and it looks like stoic and unfeeling, nonchalant maybe.

[@DonGivani]

I don't buy such comment, give me 5 clear points why you think her acting of Osha was not good

[@mateo10734]

@@DonGivaniit sounded like she was reading out loud from a script everytime she talked, she said everything the same way, it wasn’t until the end when she actually showed some emotion. Very little facial expressions. Best adjectives I can use to describe for her is dry, it just felt very weird everytime she talked and out of place. I couldn’t tell if she was talking to another human or a robot.

[@-thrawn-]

I feel like this show had a lot of potential actually and some brilliant moments. However, it suffered greatly from bad editing and some really poor writing choices that screamed “last minute re-write” or “we let too large of a committee write this and let the editors cut out scenes that hurt the storytelling.” No matter how many highs a series has, a handful of really major writing failures is going to kill it; it’s like being served a really tasty meal with a couple of flies in it. The inconsistencies with acting feels like a consequence of rushed schedules or last minute changes/re-shoots where there wasn’t time for proper direction. The last few projects all felt this way to me to varying degrees. I’m not sure what’s driving it but it needs to be corrected for sure if this franchise is going to survive.

[@RX552VBK]

Agreed.

[@persephone342]

Thank you, Allen, for just being you. I really enjoyed your content for the acolyte. Out of all the channels reviewing the Acolyte, your channel has gone above and beyond! It’s been spectacular! ❤

[@PrettyTigerlilly]

I really thought the fight between Sol and Qimir was exceptional.

[@glenny5081]

The rip off of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon?

[@GenerationTech]

yea really enjoyed the usage of the mini shoto saber, i also liked how Sol was very dominate in the fight, we have a theory about this coming up

[@kdusel1991]

Whoever the creative team hired to do the lightsaber duels need to be hired in the future, cause the choreography was so good.

[@madtimesmedia8609]

I fully agree. The best live action sabre fights yet

[@kdusel1991]

​@@GenerationTech I wish we had a confrontation between vernestra and qimir. Really wanted to see how he fares again a lightwhip since that's probably why he got the shoto

[@harmonicdissent]

I agree that it was too much to ask of that young girl. I hope she doesn't take it personal and uses this experience to grow as an actress. Not everybody gets these types of opportunities. I hope she continues working at her craft and I hope opportunities connect as a result. There's nothing more rewarding for me as a viewer than it is to see actors and actresses grow before our eyes and surprise even themselves. To go from creating a hit to creating art. I love to see that.

[@sfkeepay]

I gave you a thumbs up and share your sentiments. Not every actor can be Leonardo DiCaprio, Christina Ricci, or River Phoenix when they’re young, but most can grow as performers if they apply themselves and work to improve. Likewise, there are only a few directors known for their ability to draw great performances from children - Spielberg comes to mind. p.s. I do think it worth mentioning that use of the term “actress” has become quite controversial. While awards like the Oscars are still bestowed with gendered titles, most female actors have come to take umbrage with “actress” and point out that both within their profession and the broader career landscape, feminizing modifications of job titles originated through derogation or special allowances, not equality or respect. Many of the leading women in film (Sigourney Weaver, Meryl Streep, many others) advocate strongly for “actor”. So though I myself had to make some effort to adopt the change, “actor” applies to everyone regardless of their sex (acting awards presently abstaining). Of course, it’s optional, but if it matters to you, there it is.

[@ramblingsunglassesguy]

The beginning of the video really encapsulates why I avoid going online for things I like, it feels like no matter what there's always constant negativity to anything new on the internet and unwarranted hate towards random things, while other things are overly loved and praised. I appreciate you being honest and not being overly negative just for views and clicks, it's something that is desperately needed nowadays.

[@coldshock5181]

I mean this show was terrible by almost all the things people have been criticizing them, star wars fans always seem to justify a whole show based on one or two scenes, which I think is very dumb

[@DepressedSlavicPepe]

while i was watching this video, i made a big mistake looking at reddit, man why those this get so much hate

[@jamesarnold7253]

I saw one video maybe 30 mins long complaining that one of the actors was trans. It turned out to be one of the random background witches. How fragile can a person be that they get angry about that?

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

I enjoy commentary on media more than I like the media itself. Whether something is good or bad, the extremes produce the most content.

[@A_Certain_Point_of_View]

Allan is the best Star Wars channel and one of the best opinions on the internet. As people who consume content we need to cherish creators like him

[@nathanieljackson5554]

As an old Star Wars fan who's only Star Wars content was mostly Ewok related growing up, I'm really enjoying most of the new content. The storytelling in The Acolyte was ok. Not good. Just ok. It did a lot of unnecessary exposition that were just bad attempts at character building. Overall though it was entertaining. The fights were well done and actually added to the story. If there is a second season, I'd like to see a time jump of a few years to see how all the plot threads left open have developed. Exploring the Jedi's role in their own downfall is a great storytelling opportunity that I hope better developed in the future. But that's what all fans want, right?

[@Slayer398]

Ok, I don't see why we want to see MORE exposition on the fall of the Jedi? Didn't we already see that in the prequel trilogy, it seems when covered that ground in the prequel trilogy showing how the Jedi had become bloated, corrupt and fallen from their ideals (and it's expanded upon in the CW). Wasn't the point of the Acolyte to show us 100 years prior with the events of the prequel Jedi, ala before they were corrupt and fallen? And yet what we got was a rehash that they were no more different than their counterparts down the line, so what was the point? The Acolyte was merely an encapsulated rehash of jedi always being corrupt and evil for 25,000 yrs. /slow clap.

[@sleinadb]

Also old SW fan here. Like saw Ep 4 in theaters. Not So much a fan of prequel triology...and the animated series. It's just me with animation anything from live action. I just would like SW content...not ruined by a bunch of naysayers who forget this is a space wizard fantasy. Like GT said...clunky and cheesy but that is how it has always been. It's not Citizen Kane or The Godfather. Thank goodness. 😂

[@Ghost_-nz5dy]

@@Slayer398 the problem is here the Prequel we were already in the middle of their downfall the high Republic/acolyte can actually show us where these cracks began to form.

[@Slayer398]

@@Ghost_-nz5dy the whole problem with that is that it does none of that. Where does the show do that? We see a senator demanding and angry 2 times, but not wny and you can't claim it's because of this event either. There is no context to the "enemies" of the Council, just that they exist (for some reason) and they are terrified of them. Why would they be and we're supposed to believe this because "reasons".

[@Slayer398]

@@Ghost_-nz5dy okay great, that'd be interesting if they actually show'd us "something" in the S1 (which they didn't and S2 isn't highly likely). All they *did* show us was 2 minutes of some Senator being randomly angry over something and with ZERO context or explanation of his importance and Master pickle head talking about "enemies of the council" that they had to worry about, with even less reason or context in a mystery that wasn't.

[@AmelityshTV]

Plagueis just awkwardly watching Qimir and Osha hold hands at the end

[@arg_9584]

He jealous for sure lol

[@saphyrionelendilion7166]

LMAO this is a new way to look at him ahahahah

[@wildbard4112]

"IT'S NOT FAIR! IT SHOULD BE ME NOT HER!"

[@AmelityshTV]

​@@wildbard4112 we all wish we could hold his hand

[@christopherluke9658]

IKR lol

[@CapnWatson]

This is what I love about this channel. Great and nuanced content, while Allen (and his off camera team) desperately claws at trying to get adult Star Wars fans to act like adults, and Americans to act with nuanced compassion. I don't agree with all of his takes, but he's coming from the right spot and desperately needed, especially in this fandom.

[@SonicHalo9107]

I liked it. My only complaint is these series should not be 6-8 episodes. They should be like Andor, 12 episodes or maybe 10. It gives more time to breath. Other than that, no problems.

[@mtcanales99]

I really enjoyed your Acolyte videos because of your objectivity and bigger picture approach. They were refreshing in the age of negativity for the sake of negativity. Thank you.

[@sreyangovender3404]

Appreciate your well-rounded analysis 🙏

[@richt63]

I might suffer harassment and bullying like I did in other posts of other Star Wars KZbinrs. I really like the ending of the series. Sure it started out questionable at best. It picked up pretty fast. And the appearance of Darth Plagueis and Grandmaster Yoda was awesome. I'm hoping that the next season comes out. I think this series pointed out that there is light in darkness and darkness in light. That the Jedi aren't always good, the Sith aren't always evil. But the apparent kindness of Qimir could be his undoing in the next season. Is Darth Plagueis really into them having a relationship? I think he will be discarded by Plagueis for that reason and then wait for Sheev Palpatine. Great review ❤.

[@Themerkman]

Should I jiggle the keys in your face more and say remember remember lol bro you can’t be serious

[@thomasgordon7344]

Man back at my height of interest for all things Star Wars I used to watch your channel along with a few others now you’re my only go to SW channel because you have such a balanced approach seriously keep it up!!

[@seekfind9531]

Dude. I do appreciate your take on the show. I enjoyed it. I’m a born again, conservative Christian too. Although I don’t agree with certain lifestyles, that doesn’t mean I hate the people and that doesn’t mean I can’t see an enjoyable show for what it is. Not the best, but enjoyable.

[@KevinTheID]

Is it just me or does it seem like the High Council is really checked out in The Acolyte? They seem to not really be involved in the day-to-day affairs of things and even send emissaries like Vernestra to speak with Senators rather than doing it themselves. This might be why there is increased oversight and control by the High Council come the Prequels and the increased presence of council members speaking directly with the government rather than trusting it to subordinates.

[@yenlinhtran69]

Think of the separation of churches and governments. Most of the time, the Temple doesn’t bother with the day to day affairs of the lay people. Their whole thing was to find students and to ruminate in the Force.

[@KevinTheID]

@@yenlinhtran69 That's a fair point!

[@F0XD1E]

If you think about the Jedi as say a major religion or a large corporation, how often do you see the Pope or the board of directors and CEO getting into the nitty gritty of things? They're mostly figure heads that don't actually do much.

[@KevinTheID]

@@F0XD1E Oh true, and @yenlinhtran69 put it pretty well in an earlier comment. I think I was more getting at how we started to really see the tightening grip of the High Council and less individuality in the Jedi Order following the Acolyte's events.

[@Crocthunder]

It makes the world not so small tbh to me, theres 10k Jedi doing things all over the galaxy, we see maybe 20 involved but Verns the one leading it. Thats my take, I guess Yoda is gonna talk to Vern about her thinking her old apprentice is still alive causing trouble .

[@ColDylanG]

I feel ironically Mae's forced dialogue works well after knowing her true intentions. Her problem wasn't always just wanting to be evil, she wanted justice for what the Jedi did on Brendock which. She isn't an evil character, she never was, she thought of the jedi as the evil plague on the galaxy almost like legends General Grevious before he became the cyborg droid general. After first watchthrough blind, yeah it seems Mae's acting is poor but whenever I rewatch it it's like an ironic addition to the character.

[@WiseSnake]

Solid review, Tech. I've placed this show solidly above BoB and Kenobi, but below Ashoka and far below Andor. 6/10 for me.

[@laughingowl7896]

And pretty close to par with The Mandalorian.

[@smalltubegaming7726]

@@laughingowl7896overall I’d say it was weaker than season 1&2 but stronger than or on par with season 3

[@jonirojonironin5353]

I feel 6/10 is even generous. Only the fights of this show are good and everything else is bad. This feels more like 4/10. Kenobi is like 2/10. Andor is 10/10 which goes to show how vastly different in quality, these shows are.

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@laughingowl7896no lol S1 & 2 blow this out of the water. And even the jumbled story telling in S3 was better than this. There’s a lot to like in this show, but it’s in no way close to the same level as Mando.

[@WiseSnake]

@@jonirojonironin5353 My way of rating shows is mostly personal, but to put things into perspective, I've never watched a show that felt like a 2/10, let a lone a 1/10. But my 6/10's have very little rewatch value in eyes. One of the best shows I ever watched was HBO's The Wire, that was a 10/10. I rate Andor (So far, because the show ain't over yet) a 9/10. If they repeat what they did in season 1, then it, too, will be a 10/10 show for me.

[@kevinforest657]

I watch more of your videos now because of your unbiased opinions of the Acolyte and how you relate some of the story elements to real world concepts. And also, you arent afraid to say that you really liked the show. Admittedly, it wasnt perfect, but it wasnt the dumpster fire other creators made it out to be.

[@Crocthunder]

Literally, its mid to ok where a s2 should be more confident and focus on the improving with feedback like this channel gives , but like nothings changed, the series is fine, people screaming that the series is dead will be back when the next thing they like is good and "saved" People cannot just be normal

[@khandimahn9687]

Finished the last episode of Acolyte and... oh boy, the writing was so bad. So many things made absolutely no sense. 2 episodes ago Sol told Mae they had to talk, then we have the flashback episode, the expectation is that this was Sol telling his story but when the finale starts it's clear they haven't talked at all yet. Then later the fuzzy guy sabotages the ship while chasing Mae... why? He knew it wasn't Osha, he knew before Sol! Then later Mae wants to bring Sol to justice? When did she give up her quest for revenge? Then later Mae stays behind to be captured... why? She's finally with her sister, the one thing she wanted above all else! And Osha doesn't want to let Mae go, when all she ever wanted was to be her own person without a clingy sister around all the time. In the flashback we learned Sol killed their mother because she was turning into a big scary shadow thing, a perfectly rational choice at the time! How was he supposed to know she intended to let Osha go? Why didn't she just say something? Who approved these scripts? At least it wasn't as bad as Rise of Skywalker.

[@budgiecat9039]

In the end, terrible people became the victors in this show. What kind of inspirational message is that? Lie further to cover up lies? Kill people who raised you because you're too immature to realize what happened? Manipulate people into some type of Stockholm syndrome effect to join you? Yeah good moral lessons there 🙄 I guess Leslye can only write about what she knows. Nah this is worse than RoS and even TLJ

[@firepoet6926]

Sols ending was deep, his death became a twist in the same manner he had used Mae’s perceived death and he died having a broken lie that broke him and in his last words he accepted death by Osha. I feel the mother was to Osha among the cult was Sol was to Osha among the Jedi. That’s why she attacked Sol he placed her in an unnecessary position losing one of her lights. Sol was her light but that sun burned her and snuffed out her mom’s light. The issue is they didn’t really show enough to give the weight of the mother to Osha they only showed that weight with Mae. So people miss why Osha would kill Sol. But it’s not much different why Anakin wanted to kill Obi Wan. The cult wasn’t family to Osha but the mom and Mae were now seeing Sol’s part she feel misplaced hate was with Mae who took her family and she can’t process that when Sol keeps talking, he only fuels the hate.

[@e.b.wilson3665]

Allen your reviews are the most refreshing and insightful. Thanks for covering the show. I rewatched the Phantom Menace right before the finale and this show ties in pretty well.

[@dylancloud1469]

This show did a good job of illustrating something that I’ve said for a long time. The world is black and white, but people are not. There is an objective morality, but no person is completely perfect or completely evil.

[@irystocrattakodachithatmooms]

I think one of the big things turning people against each other is political propaganda. Politicians tell people over and over to hate the other side, that they are better than the others.

[@kyr_taap]

You nailed it once again, Alan. We need to accept everyone as an individual human being and stop stereotyping. Thanks to your review I'm gonna give the show a chance

[@matthew30173]

R. I. P my Boi Sol. He deserved better 😢😢😢

[@weenug489]

Fr, rip my Boi 😢

[@Drummachine22]

This was a great show. I love watching shows that focus in on the lore and expands upon it. I especially loved Manny Jacinto's character! I really appreciate all these breakdowns, Allen! As someone who grew up in the early 90's without any real-time Star Wars content, I don't take any Star Wars shows for granted.

[@brandonh.1812]

I appreciate that you kept civil during your entire discussion over the past few weeks when talking about this show. I thoroughly enjoyed the story and lesson that acolyte tried to teach, even if I feel like they botched it in the end attempting to secure another season, with the plagueis jumpscare and the plot essentially starting from scratch again. It was a show about an era that we've never seen before, about challenges that only were hinted at in the prequels but most fans didn't seem to get because the films were unwatchable from a directing perspective, and I do appreciate that this film tried to explore that again. I'm interested in a season 2 but I can't think of a way it could be extended to another 8 episodes because the cliffhangers we got feel like they could get resolved in 1 or 2 episodes each... feels like the show is in a very weird spot now.

[@nathanielzarny1176]

Just like ahsoka I'm more interested in season 2 then season 1. I'd love to see live action plageius interact with qmir, I wanna know their relationship. I wanna see venestra fight plageius, I wanna see oshas dark side training. These are thing I would rather watch then a story about 2 girls that doesn't really go anywhere.

[@kentvesser9484]

This is just a guess, but I suspect there might be some changes coming at Disney regarding who is in charge of the Star Wars properties. There have been too many underwhelming shows and movies in that portfolio and Disney's bosses and shareholders are going to get fed up with the team delivering so few hits that drive subscriptions or box office for such a valuable property. I suspect that series that aren't driving new subscriptions in large numbers or showing as the reason that people are retaining their subscriptions will be getting the ax and there will be some shakeups at Disney - Star Wars. This show probably won't get a second season. If it does, it likely will be a much lower budget.

[@orokusaki1243]

Simply: I enjoyed The Acolyte for what it was. It was sufficiently Star Wars. A lot of the issues people had with it were too nit-picky, blown out of proportion, or otherwise fabricated outright.

[@captaingordon]

Why did Bazzle, the Muskrat character, disable Sol’s ship 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@miiku3814]

Greatest thing about this show was finding this channel. I mean this show is not perfect by any means, but the amount of hate some of the Star Wars tubers were giving towards this show and its creators was just so out of hand and toxic, that I stopped following most of those channels. It is okay if someone doesn't like this show and wants to criticize it, but the hate was just getting so out of hand, all that review bombing before even seeing the episodes, deliberate misunderstanding of things and criticizing plot holes before things are even explained etc was just so tiring to see. And some people even attack those that like this show which is just ridiculous. To me I'd say this was like solid 6.5/10 series, it was not perfect, but I was entertained. Like in most of Star Wars there was plenty of bad dialogue, some things were pretty rushed, some directional decisions weren't really spot on. But there were few really good characters, action scenes were really spot on and this brought some new lore, also even though we only see him for a few seconds, it was awesome to finally see that one legendary big bad Muun creeping around. ;) And we kinda finally got current canon confirmation of his existence, before this we only got that one scene of palps talking about him. But yeah, after finding this channel I have viewed plenty of your videos and I really like your style. Keep up the good work!

[@charlesgadson1103]

A solid 6.5/10. Probably able to cut some parts to expand on others parts, such as the brendok incident.

[@allifried]

Thanks for all your thoughtful and balanced videos on The Acolyte! I haven’t gotten into any fandom for like a decade, but The Acolyte hooked me so much that I went looking for more fan content. I was instantly repelled by all the hate the show got, which made me appreciate your channel even more. Keep up the great work, and thanks for all the insights you give, not only for the show but for real life.

[@KonzaCelt]

Alex, it's easy to say either nothing is absolute or everything is. It's a lot harder take the time to figure out which is which. Some things are absolute and some things are not, and it takes time, experience, and wisdom to know the difference.

[@sammy71500]

you earn my respect i stop watching few other for negative on a show and love your positive and good info on the show

[@HellDuke-]

Is it worth a watch? Not really. Watched through it in its entirety with my wife. I love Star Wars and my wife, who just saw the movies. Both of us agree is that the story is poorly written with not very great acting. I don't care if someone likes it, but certainly I would not recommend anyone waste their time. I had held out hope that the story would fit together by the end, but it never really does. While also agree that Mae/Osha was not greatly acted I would also add that the character was quite poorly written with little to no growth, instead just flipping around with no clear motivation or cause where the flip itself becomes the cause for the next one. Maybe the actor was given instructions and failed at them, but it does seem like something was missing in building up the characters. Certainly not something I can see costing 180 million USD, the most of all Star Wars projects.

[@Lilitha11]

I really liked that they did something different with the show. A lot of the other stuff, is just like hanging off the coattails of the stuff before it, while this one seems to be trying to do it's own thing. So even though it has it's problems, I can respect it for trying. Overall I would say it is enjoyable to watch.

[@icantafford]

While I personally couldn't stand The Acolyte, I'm not about to begrudge a Star Wars lore channel for portraying Star Wars in as positive a light as one reasonably can.

[@reddishcarp1237]

I wouldn't bebrudge you as well. Afterall not everyone is cut out for media literacy.

[@icantafford]

@reddishcarp1237 You're all over these comments with the most unhinged and brain dead NPC takes to the point where I can't tell if you're a bot or an idiot.

[@ericp1139]

You mean spin?

[@cloudmaster182]

​@ericp1139 Eric. At some point u gotta just accept that u don't get it, and that's ok. The lore is steeped in decades of novels, comics and games. The movies alone aren't rly sufficient to get a deep, full understanding of the galaxy at this point, esp for something like this that actually took the time to study those old novels And even then if u haven't watched the movies in 5 years, ur only gonna remember how u felt, not what happened or what things meant

[@morganwartman8507]

@@reddishcarp1237you mean enjoying a poorly written story with awful dialogue?

[@lukeheptinstall2410]

Maybe the best summation of this show and it feels like one of the few voices that isn’t trying to be overly positive or overly negative as the internet is prone to do with extremes being the only takes it’s nice to hear someone just as much here to give the new things. Chance with a open mind ❤

[@lukeheptinstall2410]

Thanks for keeping level headed fandom alive during this mad discourse over this average show

[@ricom7091]

Not gonna lie. It wasn't my cup of tea. I tried. Lee jung-jae and manny jaucinto performances roles was great. Everybody else to me felt flat and was like it was their first job out of acting school. It's no Andor that's for sure. If there's no second season I'm not gonna be sad.

[@DryptosaurusDavid]

I stopped watching after episode 3.

[@randomrobin7773]

@@DryptosaurusDavid The power of manyyyyyyyyyy

[@kdusel1991]

​@@DryptosaurusDavid I thought it was fine. Not Disney's best star wars show, but definitely not their worst either. I hope we get a second season.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@randomrobin7773 the power of Manny Jacintooooo!!

[@ricom7091]

Can't wait to get back to more of your regular content to be honest. It has been like watching a food critic talk about the same badly made pizza over and over. I love your content, but there are more people that didn't like it than did. Many of my friends turned it off after the first episode. Hell my wife is a huge SW fan and I had to tie her to the chair to continue to watch it with me. She is now turned officially turned off by SW.

[@aprilnewell5434]

I absolutely agree that this show is like the prequels. The execution is so similar. Even so, I would like a second season.

[@pauljazzman408]

I liked a lot of elements of Acolyte. In this last episode the star fighter chase through the ring of particles was amazing. The light sabre duels were amazing and the fall from the bridge thing was like crouching tiger hidden Jedi. The two central characters Mae and Osha were not quite strong enough true, but the surrounding characters were really great. I did get the two mixed up especially when they changed costumes. As you say it must be so difficult to make such a series. And the Jungian duality theme was great and not just the hero’s journey again. I think social media has become like the mind controlled super technology of the Krell in Forbidden Planet. We have unleashed ‘monsters from the id’ the unconscious.

[@aullvrch]

Thank you so much for giving such an honest review! Every other video I have found has been so negative that it’s hard to tell if they’re just hating to hate or if it’s actually that bad… I feel like I can always trust your opinion is honest.

[@user-ne8gp2fm2d]

Most sane review of The Acolyte on the Internet.

[@jaredcullum117]

I really appreciate you going through and saying where the show struggled and where it shined. I'm not an expert on acting quality, so it was good to hear your perspective on the main cast's performance. Also I didn't realize Osha and May were played by the same person as Rue, nice fun fact.

[@KevinTheID]

I think what really hurt the show was the entire twin arc - which even the most positive of us mostly checked out from by the third episode. It also feels like they spent way too much time banking on a second season rather than committing the time necessary to creating a tight story this season.

[@Peter_The_Great]

@@KevinTheID I felt that most in the last episode. Certain plots would be unpacked across multiple seasons for a show. Meanwhile. other plots, occurring at the same time, are resolved at the end of the season.

[@KevinTheID]

@@Peter_The_Great Yeah, basically. I also really didn't buy the reason for another twin fight in this last episode nor believed the switch for Mae from revenge to justice and Osha from hurt but innocent to bleeding-a-crystal level of rage.

[@Peter_The_Great]

@@KevinTheID yeah. It seems the plot wanted the twins to mirror their masters. As Osha became more angry and emotional. Sol also became unstable. Same for Mae, once she found her center, her master wasn't so wild and out of control.

[@lso8000]

Hopefully they get some closure to the story in case season 2 doesn't pan out. Like Firefly.

[@Peter_The_Great]

@@lso8000 if not a season. At least start publishing books to conclude those stories.

[@CaseyLyons-yc2ri]

For the final episode I binged the whole series BEFORE watching the final episode and it really helped the immersion and made the finale work that much better. The only issue i have is the placement of the flashback episodes, it ruins the pacing of the already difficult to follow story. The finale had everything the show needed and I'm truly looking forward to the next series

[@fernandosalazar3366]

When Master Sol did the triple kick on his chest it brought me back to the TMNT 2003 series where Leonardo does the same slo mo kick on Hun. Idk where that move first originated but it was awesome nonetheless.

[@estherabrams7274]

I think Amandala Stenberg really shone in the last episode. It was a challenging pair of roles to play, for sure. We see monsters in other people, we fight them by canceling them online, because the world has become so much more complicated than for the vast majority of human existence. We want heroes with super powers, because it’s so difficult to stand out in this world. One thing I’ve loved about Star Wars since the very beginning is the clothing. Capes aren’t particularly practical, but they’re beautiful, and anyone in this galaxy can show up in a cape at any time. The Acolyte does not disappoint in this, and best of all I think is Qimar’s flowing black in the battle against Sol, it moves wonderfully and more so with his graceful, powerful fighting moves. The Jedi costumes express their success and prosperity in this era, and Venestra’s varying levels of formality in various situations. These costumes are all eye candy as costuming has been throughout the franchise.

[@olencone4005]

I think the show would have fared better without the "unreliable narrator" approach -- the same sense of mystery could have been achieved by simply alternating from current to past, such as with flashbacks at key moments, without adding the confusion of the conflicting perspectives. That would have freed up screen time that could have been better used for character work or just more plot development. Overall, I enjoyed the show tho -- it had some great choreography, an intriguing story, and some memorable characters and performances (even if they did kill off all of my favorites 😱)! I do agree that the Mae/Osha dynamic would probably have been better served if Amandla Stenberg had played one while a different actress played the other. It wasn't a perfect show, but it was still a good show that fit in well with the other Star Wars movies and series, and certainly doesn't deserve the blind rage or hate so many throw at it. Hopefully they'll explore more of the older Republic eras with future shows! Star Wars has so much more to offer as a franchise than just the original characters and their extended family.

[@jeremiahmorris1852]

Thanks for not selling out to the haters Alan. It's good seeing an actual fair and balanced review

[@aarontalksculture4946]

I can't say how much I appreciate your coverage of The Acolyte. I personally think it's a good show and I enjoyed it. There are other SW stories I like more but I was a bit blindsided by the online hate this show got. I watched the first couple of episodes before I was aware of the hate, and it didn't even occur to me that people would go so far out of their way to 💩 on it. But for me seeing minorities and women in primary roles is no big deal.

[@m310grass]

An example of a good actress who can pull off the twin thing is Nina Dobrev from Vampire Diaries, technically Katherine and Elena aren’t twins and have very different life experiences but Nina still pulls it off masterfully

[@Lily-D1215]

i feel like what u said about amandala s. playing mae and osha the same way makes a lot of sense considering the recent revelations, with them being practically the same being, just split in two.

[@GenerationTech]

Yea but when you watch the kids version, the two actresses gave off completely different vibes ( not just their appearance)

[@karl-niclasburner8451]

They did not have the same lived experiences after the fire. That whole Nature vs Nurture thing.

[@lso8000]

@@GenerationTech Somehow I saw a change in Mae's portrayal in the finale. She seemed a lot nicer, more subordinate I guess? Like when they were in scenes together with Osha, you can certainly see a different kinder facial expression on Mae, as opposed to Osha. Besides their different clothes, you can tell them apart just by facial expression alone.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@GenerationTech Kids and adult version rarely line up. You can point to many shows with this version. In fact, in most shows the kid versions are usually the more mature ones.

[@enbentz]

@@GenerationTech That's probably got a lot to do with the fact that they are, in fact, two different actresses, no?

[@derekhell666]

been loving your takes on this show. thank you for being a thoughtful voice among all the noise.

[@Silas_Barbour]

I would love to see a continuation of quimir and Venestras story but I’m worried with all the unwarranted hate we won’t get it

[@isaacyahya1784]

I agree

[@extrojan22]

The issue is they can’t exist unless they disappear out of the outer rim. They could maybe if they are not Sith and if Quimir is not the acolyte to plagueis

[@Silas_Barbour]

@@extrojan22 there is many ways they could have a fight between venestra and quimir without breaking cannon. I would love to see her kill quimir and osha in a fight only for her to die to Darth Plagueis

[@knightmare5097]

Honestly I find a lot of the dislike of this show being warranted. Outside of the jabs at the creator’s past, the interviews, or just plain racism/homophobia, the show isn’t really all that well-written.

[@Silas_Barbour]

@@knightmare5097 hate and criticism are different. Criticism is fine and if the story has enough payoff we will still enjoy it even with critiques of it

[@cajeb5396]

I really enjoyed your videos covering the acolyte. I didn’t always agree but your breakdowns were thoughtful, fair, and insightful! Cheers, GenTech!

[@OrionInSpace]

As usual you’re level headed and break things down in great ways… just wish other creators had the mental fortitude to do that.

[@aplanki]

Thank you Alan for all the great content, your thoughts, background information and critisism. Yours is the last Star Wars channel I watched since The Acolyte - I could not understand the bad reviews.

[@WhoisTwinn13]

The fact that people were hating on this show before episode 1 even came out is actually mind boggling to me. And other channels like sw theory didn’t help either. That’s why I’m grateful for channels like generation tech to always give an honest and thoughtful critique on sw content

[@MGC-XIII]

Most nuanced Star Wars channel yet again. Saw a lot of YT creators on Twitter attack this show and it's such small things they harp on, they have no actual criticism other than attacking Headland.

[@orlandocrespo4262]

Your thoughts/critiques in the first half of this video already made me think this is easily the best review of the Acolyte I’d seen. You bring up very valid issues and acknowledge the good sides as well. But you made this an S tier review in the second half how you tied the themes as important for our generation and you make some really thought provoking comments. Well done!

[@kamenwaticlients]

Thank you keeping up with the series. Yours is the only real and thought out discussion I've seen with great detail and balance. Outside of Blindwave and Reel Rejects you are the only person that I saw that really gave the show a chance and honest viewing.

[@Hawkeye83627]

I think most creators gave it a fair chance. A lot of them just didn't like it.

[@kamenwaticlients]

@@Hawkeye83627 Not from what I saw. There was a lot of hate even before it dropped. I think reaction channels where the most open. Review channels and scifi star wars channels nope.

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

Twins being alike is more true to life. But then this is a show meant for entertainment, so I guess it comes down to : Do you want art to imitate life or do you want art to emulate a theatrical expectation of real life that isn't very realistic? I didn't have a problem with the twins being similar, especially since in the end, they are MORE than twins. That said, why TF could both of them not escape with Qimir? Why leave Mae behind AT ALL?!? They did not explain this well. I mean bunch up or something in that two seater, or steal Soul's ride. That irked me.

[@sleinadb]

I want the latter. I'm just being honest. Prob why I dont get all caught up in writing and directing and special effects flubs. Nine times out of 10 when one of these channels points out one of those or other things I'm like WAHH? It's still something fantasy, not real life even if imperfect. That's what I watch science FICTION for. 😊

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

@@sleinadb Oh I don't notice/look for those things either. It always irks me when people nit-pick. I mean we've all seen the Starbucks cup on Game of Thrones, but that's not what ruined the show for me. SO yeah, I see your point, but also I won't fault characterization as being truer to life. I like people to act in realistic ways to extraordinary things, you know as best as can be approximated, and sometimes if it is over the top, as in some of the examples Alan showed us, then it kinda breaks the illusion for me. I like Classic Doctor WHO, I can handle a wobbly set and a rubber mask, but my characters have to be believable, and to me, IMO, the twins were. I don't fault anyone for disagreeing though.

[@DarthJarJar10]

Thanks for your reviews and valid criticism, Alan! I enjoyed this show and what it was trying to do and it's been quite upsetting to see how people will focus on what some of the cast and production do or say in their private lives rather than the quality of the production. And like you've said (I've even said this in response to people losing their minds about issues in media like games where their complaints are at best petty), there are real problems in the world so when we criticise work like this, it should be done appropriately... I myself have had an appalling last three years (middle of 2021 until early 2024) with needing to write off family so toxic, they streesed me out to the point they triggered epilepsy in me (in part) and a parent was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimer's which might be genetic and might already be starting in me... But forms of escapism like The Acolyte, Ahsoka, Spider-Man 2, GoW:Ragnarok, Horizon: Zero Dawn and Forbidden West, Control, The Mandalorian, and the list goes on, have literally held me together... And those two events are just the two major points... There have been moments where I've been worried I might lose my job and have been so grateful that the few friends that are still able to respond via a text message do respond... Even if it takes months. Thanks again, man.

[@bestdungeonever]

I’m so with you my dude. Thanks for all your content on the show.

[@HowardLogan-gv5kc]

0:47 THANK YOU!!! My thoughts EXACTLY 💯 it is a serious low point for the fandom... I loved the acolyte and nearly every comment online or any content creator who supports the acolyte is harassed by these weird rage mongers. Its a tv show, it didnt murder your family member or committed gen0 cide . Grown adults acting this way about a TV SHOW, truly demonstrates how shallow their minds are to the actual world and what actually matters. If I dont like a show, I DONT WATCH IT, I dont review bomb it and then announce everywhere how you are not watching the show. It just makes the old adage about Star Wars fans true, we're insufferable man-children who btch and moan about everything, and nobody should even try making Star Wars content because the fans will always hate everything. Its WHY George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney in the first place... why Hayden hated playing Anakin, because of the hate he received for the prequels. Its Embarrassing... because actual fans just want Star Wars content and everyone who tries is always brutalized, mocked and ridiculed for enjoying the lore. So yeah I loved the Acolyte, and its as divisive as a political election which is ridiculous and embarrassing for those lame "fans"

[@seanholmes3658]

It felt like half the time the Jedi forgot they could use the Force, and Master Sol getting Force choked to death by Osha felt really inconsistent with what Sol was doing during the fight with Qimir. It made it seem that Vader/Anakin could have just force choked Obi Wan to death during any of his encounters if he had actually seriously wanted Obi Wan dead. Some of the choreography could have been done a lot better, mostly just make some of the swings look like they were trying to strike the opponent. Though I will say the Sol vs Qimir in the last episode was probably the best choreographed fight. There was hardly any swings that looked like they were just aiming for the air.

[@BandClarinet3]

Sol was emotionally broken at that point having to say his sins to the person he tried to protect. He wasn’t trying to fight when osha grabbed him out of anger to get him to stop talking. Regarding other fights, force choking is the cowards way out. A true night will show their ability to use a saber. Fight like a mandalorian. Anakin wanted to show he could beat obi wan in a “fair” fight after his last loss.

[@lancegoldsborough5678]

Remember Sol said, "It's okay" to Osha?

[@ddstnz]

thank you alan.i am one of those sad little folk who really enjoyed this show.has been some nice wee law nuggets in there .Dark side simp...hell yes..and proud of it

[@darrelltolhurst5294]

You are always unbiased and level headed in your videos. Keep up the amazing work 👍

[@fnunez]

Trying to keep it spoiler free... The lightsaber fights alone made the episode worth it, especially that *one* scene with Osha - goosebumps. And any scenes with starships in them were pretty darn good (especially the hard landing, looked so good). ILM flexing when they get a decent budget.

[@mathewkolakwsk]

The last episode of Acolyte harmed the series: in the end, Osha doesn’t make any sense as a character. Why did she go to the dark side when she always knew that Sol was fundamentally good, always on her side to protect her? He didn’t kill Mother Aniseya on purpose; he was justified in his behavior, attempting to protect them. Putting others into danger makes you evil if you did that for malicious or selfish reasons - and Sol doesn’t flunk that test, in my opinion. Yeah, the show-runners wanted to reveal that he overstepped his bounds a little bit - the Jedi are flawed - but ultimately he was trying to protect two children from a coven of 50 dark side using witches. It is “odd”, at the very least, to have two young force using children (created by the Force!) in a coven of 50 witches, going through dark rituals, right? The Jedi are like superhero cosmic police, correct? What am I missing here? And why did they spend so much show time to give us the tragedy in the mine fortress from two different perspectives? What did that ultimately achieve? The two perspectives concept didn’t pay off because Sol was ultimately a good person in both views. Was he supposed to allow the witch smoke maneuver to disintegrate Mae without any defensive reaction? His goal was to protect the children - and yes, there is some gray area due to the Jedi overstepping their authority or interests - I get that point, but the witch coven was going to forcefully abuse the two girls by making them the new leaders of the coven, no matter what they wanted for themselves. What would a good hearted police officer do in a similar situation? The Jedi are motivated to protect and bring about peace in the Galaxy… Also, Venestra ends up being evil (making the Jedi look terrible… again). You’re right about things being complicated as opposed to simply black and white - but there has to be some solid ground in terms of right vs wrong. Sol was done super dirty by the script; the Jedi were shown to be far more bad/incompetent/selfish than good. That’s a mistake - and shows a misunderstanding of Star Wars as a framework for telling stories and teaching morality. The Acolyte had the opportunity to focus on the dark side users. Make them complex, even sympathetic via their tragic back stories - which is what they partially/poorly did with the witch coven and Qimir. But then they make Venestra an evil manipulator, Torbin an immature child, and Sol a secret murderer (when in actuality, he was a good hearted police officer motivated to protect two children). This is a missed opportunity (again!), ending up at a sad 5/10 overall score. This is Last Jedi level of missed opportunities - which is a real shame because Star Wars deserves better. At least we have Andor (thank goodness!)

[@AlexeiVoronin]

For me, Osha's turn to the dark side made perfect sense because she had blind faith in Sol and the gravity of the betrayal she felt was too mcuh to handle. Her relative "innocence," compared to Mae, made these feelings even harder to process, resulting in an emotional breakdown of such magnitude that it bled the lightsaber crystal.

[@jonirojonironin5353]

@@AlexeiVoronin The acting and dialogue was very bad though.

[@V0SRU]

@@AlexeiVoroninVader had so much more anger in him than Osha could even comprehend. And it took him multiple failed attempts to bleed a crystal.

[@mateo10734]

@@V0SRUI feel like Vader would’ve felt a lot more rage if he found out Obi-Wan told him his moms been dead and he’s the one who killed her after failing as a Jedi and be ousted from the order. He believes for years he messed up but then find out his master was essentially the reason for his failing and his grief. That is OSHA. I would say her grief and anger are pretty well placed. Anakin betrayed himself and his people, osha was betrayed by those around her and by her only “father” figure. He had her believing her own sister killed her family and he was the good guy, that’s fucked up.

[@AlexeiVoronin]

@@V0SRU So what? The process can be different for everyone. You're nitpicking again.

[@julianbrochu4147]

The Acolyte is far from perfect, but it does something that I feel is essential to Star Wars that has been missing from much of the recent content: themes that resonate and parallel our world. I do honestly want a second season.

[@tomnorton8499]

Could the biggest problem with Star Wars since Episode 7 be that too many writers are involved in writing the Movies/Shows?

[@sleinadb]

Maybe not writers...but no consistent captain of the ship?

[@brianwilkes6558]

I enjoyed this series about as much as I enjoyed Andor. It wasn't just some Jedi/Sith fights mixed in with some small talk dialogue. It gave you insight to how flawed the Jedi Order had become. For several thousand years the Jedi were expected to always do what was right. Without any checks and balances, any group, faction, government, or controlling body will inevitably get corrupted. Eventually someone will abuse the power that was given to them and use it to their advantage. The Acolyte makes you have to think and even question what is right and what is wrong. Like Palpatine says to Yoda, your arrogance blinds you. An institution after so many years becomes narrow minded and forgets why they are in the position they are in. Right or wrong, we need to be able to question our decisions so if it was a wrong decision, we can be held accountable for the action and learn from it, so it does not happen again in the future.

[@flyingmatteo89]

Truth is, the vast majority of critics don't mind at all that some people enjoy the show. They simply point out that it's objectively poorly written. I myself like many movies that are trash, but it doesn't mean that i think they're good.

[@LeaderOfTheLostSouls]

Exactly it’s wild how so many ignored or dismissed the bad writing cuz they enjoyed it, like they are free to enjoy it yet it does not mean it’s good, and same I know the difference between enjoyment vs quality, just enjoying it does not make it good which people forget tbh.

[@ibidiby1]

@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls bad writing is star wars. Every single one of the movies has been a disgrace writing wise. Not sure why people are suddenly demanding game of thrones level writing. The best writing comes from the animated shows and books, but star wards on folmnhas always been goofy.

[@Zilvia33]

I don't know if i could have enjoyed this show if not for you and your Breakdowns. It was easy target for some blind hatred, and when everyone took thst route, you took the opportunity to focus on the good points, connect the dots that even the show runner herself seems to struggle with in interviews. 10/10 you made this show worth watcht for me, and I thank you for that. Definitely wasn't amazing, but i would love to see someone re-edit/clip it and organize, and could definitely take a 6 rating up to an 8.5.

[@Ellukey]

I personally am at a loss for what was the purpose of this show? I felt boba and obiwan were giving closure to character stuff we didnt get to see. Andor the plight of the average star wars citizen. I dunno, im very lost with this show.

[@babytoshiro7014]

What is the purpose of SW in general, besides to entertain as George Lucas wanted to do. It's not that deep.

[@vynsyx2771]

@@babytoshiro7014 that is highly uninformed of you to say. The people who understand star wars the best will tell you his goal was to send a message, as likely any author that creates at least a semi-serious story mean to do. you can make a story to entertain, but for a lot of authors that’s likely not the only reason. if you're gonna claim that it was, please back that up

[@lso8000]

I think the intent and purpose of the show was to basically elaborate on what Senator Rayencourt said in the finale: "I think the Jedi are a massive system of unchecked power, posing as a religion, a delusional cult that claims to control the uncontrollable". And "When you're looking up to heroes, you don't have to face what's right in front of you". And this definitely struck a nerve in some SW fans, as some fans do hold the Jedi in a very positive hero light, the show tries to elaborate on how the Jedi are a lot more multi-dimensional than that. Multi-faceted with multiple layers, like an ogre.

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@vynsyx2771 It is the truth. SW was never meant for critical thinking because most fans lack the fortitude and patience for it. Don't be hurt about the truth but embrace it and have a good day.

[@boluanidugbe511]

@@babytoshiro7014But in the show many characters if not all show a serious lack of critical thinking skills and I’m pretty sure that’s what most of the disappointed fans are trying to point out. This idea that the Jedi are some out of control group isn’t the reality. It’s a flawed group as all group would be but they fundamentally stand for good in the galaxy so just because of a few individuals in the group fall to the dark or lose control doesn’t mean the whole organisation should be depicted as problematic. They are essentially warrior Monk police and to suggest that someone in that position with that much power shouldn’t be trying to control their emotions or be stoic or objective in high stakes situations is a silly narrative to try to create in the Star Wars universe tbh.

[@gustavosuarez3096]

As always, well said my friend. I feel that The Acolyte is a great show. It stays true to SW lore and satisfies fans of all eras. All the haters out there they just want to relive the prequels and forget that the prequels back then received the same or worst hate from fans of the OG trilogy that were expecting the style and pace of the OG on the prequels. I really love The Acolyte and they must do a season 2. The only thing I would say is that the episodes should have been at least an hour long. I believe the writers have a lot more story to tell and due to scheduling and profit margins they limited the episodes. Everyone from the actors to the crew did an amazing job and can't wait for season 2.

[@yonitree]

!!! The twins were 1....... Lol, 1… a vergence split into 2... I love they were never truly 2.

[@scottonrock]

Finally, someone who dares to say what he really thinks about this show and general toxic fanbases. Without this video, I would surely have been spending my night crying for the quasi-whole fanbase leading Star Wars to death. Thank you.

[@RogerZoul]

I enjoyed the show in spite of its flaws. Nothing is ever perfect and this show is no exception. I think too many are acting like star wars experts or writing experts or directing experts, but are not experts of any kind. And some people just enjoy hating stuff. I didn’t spend any time trying to analyze this show. It’s not my reason to watching it. I’ve seen a lot more boring shows. Anyway, I appreciate your non hateful reviews on this show. I had to unsub to many of the sites I used to follow. There is too much hate as it is out there.

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Haaiyaaa. Hilarious how the other SW-centric channels that hate the franchise, suddenly had an orgasm seeing Plagueis, and now are curious about season two. It's literally a television show, not a movie. You have a finite time to get your point across. People shouldn't expect cinema level story-telling in a truncated show. I'm glad you stay true to you. Wherever you're at reminds me of Taiwan.

[@ibidiby1]

@@marcomcdowell8861 yes have been confused by the sudden need for game of thrones level writing. Star wars has always had really bad/simple writing (source, every single movie), that's part of the charm. It is still meant to be engaging enough for kids to also follow.

[@TF-vb9us]

I liked it. Didn’t rock my world, but I’m not gonna throw a hissy fit about it like the anti-Disney incels 😂

[@00CuteMystery00]

It's so nice to see someone being fair and objective rather than just hating to hate and exaggerating all the flaws of the show to say "see! Look how bad it is! Vernestra gets space diarrhea! "

[@dancingdragon3]

As a High Republic fan, the ending angered me because they ruined Vernestra before we get to see the end of her book arc. Now, no matter what her original authors had in mind, she is locked into becoming a villain. WTH?! I thought this show was supposed to garner more interest in the HR series, not drive away existing fans. Whoever makes these decisions is an idiot.

[@UnitedSarmatia]

She is not portrayed as a villain in the show though.

[@wedgeantilles1932]

​@@UnitedSarmatiashe is actively working towards selfish goals

[@Sardikar]

Never meet your hero's? Personally I think it makes her more interesting.

[@acolytesounds]

I don't know anything about Vernestra but the fact that she did talk to Yoda redeems her a bit. Like yea, she's hiding information from the Senate, but she keeping the council in the loop. Now what looked really messed up to me was when she was clad in her white robes and starys manipulating Mae. That seemed shady, but hey, I guess they can't just let her go live a normal life after what she's done..

[@Duckariffic]

I stopped watching the negative videos about the Acolyte...I focused on Generation Tech and Screen Crush and it made watching the Acolyte SO MUCH BETTER!!!! THANK YOU ALLAN!!! ✌🏼 (If I didn't I wouldn't have finished watching...and that would have been a shame!) ...Plus....Lesley Headland (sp) didn't help her show by announcing all this DEI & Frozen garbage....It really did turn me to the "dark side" (re: CD) in the beginning!!!!!

[@soopakoopa6461]

With the horrific way some star wars fans have treated others, the whole situation with the wiki updating a god damn character bio, and other irl nonsense out of the way, It's honestly driven me up the wall how ever since the show started, people have been doubling down on their idea that any negative portrayal of the jedi order's flaws is a new, anti-jedi direction when in reality... The order's always just been that way. They've always been an "ends justify the means, peace by whatever methods necessary" type of organization. And that just becomes more true the further you dive into legends, as well.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yup from review bombing before the eps even dropped, to the internet hate of the cast and showrunner, to the cringe Wookiepedia things, this show could had been another Andor and still they hate it. And yes, they were hating on Andor to and now they acting like they did not🤣🤣

[@kaygee2121]

@@babytoshiro7014 facts

[@Benjamin0119]

I am really heartbroken over Sol dying. We technically did not get a close-up of his body burning, so it's possible he's still alive. Though I'm probably just in denial. He definitely didn't appear to be breathing after Osha choked him. I wonder why Sol said it was ok and didn't fight back from being choked. Did he feel he deserved this for what he did? Bleeding the kyber crystal was cool but very sad. It was sad to see Osha's fall to the Dark Side. Vernestra covering up everything and framing Sol was just gross. Did she do this because she wanted to use Mae to find Qimer? Plagueus looked awesome! I appreciate your call for civility and positivity. We have issues with inflation and economy and such, but things aren't THAT bad. The problem with much of the news media, is good news is no news, unfortunately. "If it bleeds, it leads."

[@arg_9584]

It’s weird, while I thought the show was generally poor and mainly due to writing. I kinda want a season 2 just to see how bad or good it can get. I’ll admit, it kept me hooked every week wanting to know what happened next. Can’t believe they introduced a certain sith at the very end.

[@CRollins1997]

I wish Allan and Star Wars Theory would discuss the series together. Allen could definitely bring some more positivity to Theory and his audience regarding it. I mean the series isn't perfect and definitely had some poor choices made for its writing, but it's not completely horrible like many people are saying.