So Let's Talk About the POWER of the Leman Russ Battle Tank! Codex Astra Militarum Unit Review

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@ecth97
@ecth97 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I can’t believe GW would go so far as to make the tank based faction’s main battle tank really strong for once. I can’t believe they’d do something so rash and unprecedented
@Katalmach11b
@Katalmach11b 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I feel anytime someone tells me my Leman Russes are "broken" lol compared to Necrons, Sisters of Battle, Votaan, etc etc. Like fuck off, man, let my battle tanks be good. Would you rather fight my 220 infantry list? Have fun waiting an hour for me to finish my turn and never scoring your secondaries lol
@MickeyMulligan
@MickeyMulligan 2 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid by the time I get to play a game. They are going to nerd the guard into the dirt again. So my guard will be trash their for another five years
@theomen49
@theomen49 2 жыл бұрын
God forbid people want a balanced game 🤷‍♂️
@JennyGormanRitter
@JennyGormanRitter 2 жыл бұрын
@@theomen49 you must be new here. I'll let you in on a secret: "Balance" and "40k" don't go in the same sentence. You'll be fine, or you won't. Regardless it doesn't change anything.
@Kingofsea7591
@Kingofsea7591 2 жыл бұрын
@@theomen49 na this man bitches and moans that guard good he thinks they're broken even though votann are taking GTs left and right
@stripeybag6977
@stripeybag6977 2 жыл бұрын
When your genetically perfect psychic Apex Predator gets killed by a promoted tractor.
@AxtonAponte
@AxtonAponte 2 жыл бұрын
To very badly quote a scene where a Bloodthirster gets killed by 100 or so tanks, "Nice Axe, dumbass. Meet Mr 180mm cannon and his 99 friends."
@stripeybag6977
@stripeybag6977 2 жыл бұрын
@@AxtonAponte Oh yeah I think I've heard of that except where a Greater Demon materialized in front of a bunch of Guard tanks
@joseffrolik8799
@joseffrolik8799 2 жыл бұрын
Leman Russ tank 🤝 Imperial Knights: Farming equipment promoted to warmachine
@anexistanthuman2435
@anexistanthuman2435 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a tactical error on that apex predator. Should’ve brought more anti tank lol.
@stripeybag6977
@stripeybag6977 2 жыл бұрын
@@anexistanthuman2435 That's why we also bring the dipshit farmers with flashlights.
@17michaelboyd
@17michaelboyd 2 жыл бұрын
My local GW store told me the shortage on GW website is due to a delay in printing new boxes for the russes which may explain things too
@mikaelpalm2130
@mikaelpalm2130 2 жыл бұрын
they also removed the Baneblade to be rereleased at the same time as the Rogal Dorn. New boxes apparently.
@merengueatang4
@merengueatang4 2 жыл бұрын
Half hour video on single tank? Half hour of my evening gone.
@t3hSpAdEs
@t3hSpAdEs 2 жыл бұрын
Well technically an lr is many tanks depending on the turret weapon and if you wanna split hairs it’s double that including tank commanders but I’m just being a stinker
@LordoftheSwarm
@LordoftheSwarm 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when GW made Space Marine demi companies where you could spam every type of firstborn marine squad and get literally free drop pods, rhinos, and razorbacks and it dominated the tournament scene until primaris marines came out? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
@Katalmach11b
@Katalmach11b 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial Guard players remember ALL the bullshit from every faction for the last 5 years, trust us
@andrewbakescakes9684
@andrewbakescakes9684 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the old pay-to-win days of 7th edition.
@LordoftheSwarm
@LordoftheSwarm 2 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion, GW needed to clear out their stock before primaris launch
@Katalmach11b
@Katalmach11b 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbakescakes9684 5 years ago is when the 8th edition Guard codex came out
@andrewbakescakes9684
@andrewbakescakes9684 2 жыл бұрын
@@Katalmach11b - My comment was meant for @LordoftheSwarm. I'm pretty sure the free vehicles for SM was end of 7th and the Decurion Detachment type stuff. I was not in the hobby then, but following, so I could be wrong.
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
@PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 жыл бұрын
As a Death Guard/Necrons/Craftworld player; It's really nice to see The Guard get some love and have a few broken units! I might even begin a Guard army myself next year
@NornQueenKya
@NornQueenKya 2 жыл бұрын
Look at them. Those silly humans. They build machines to look like exocrenes, mimicking only a fraction of our power -omniswarmlord
@shakyrob6512
@shakyrob6512 2 жыл бұрын
But your big bugs can't be a squadron of up to three while being led by yet another or two in the HQ slot. 😜
@Chris-jl6vp
@Chris-jl6vp 2 жыл бұрын
Totally expecting guard to get nerfed before nids and clowns.
@JasonM69
@JasonM69 2 жыл бұрын
The bigger they are, the harder they fall off the table. -Clementine
@TotallyNotJustCynical
@TotallyNotJustCynical 2 жыл бұрын
An extra little bonus to the armored tracks is it makes it ALOT easier to charge infantry units to clog them. My friend plays blood angels and other armies with a plus 1 in combat and honestly just keeping a 2+ or 3+ armour save is the most helpful thing sometimes!
@BeardyHobbs
@BeardyHobbs 2 жыл бұрын
Armoured Tracks only work on ranged weapons though
@theomen49
@theomen49 2 жыл бұрын
Im dreading those armored tracks as a thousand sons player. Once flamer nerf hits hopefully people will take them less but with armored tracks and AoC it basically is a "fuck Tsons" button for 5 points lol. If the guard player screens the tanks with infantry for psychic (and brings enough infantry to do it turn after turn) then i literally dont know what to do about it 🤷‍♂️
@eugenax9345
@eugenax9345 2 жыл бұрын
@@theomen49 well killing 40-80 guardsman shouldn't be a problem for thousand sons. You lose like 1 turn of psychic? (While you can buff your units too) Bath in the sunlight with your flamers :D while you can.
@orangegills3179
@orangegills3179 2 жыл бұрын
@@theomen49 guard won't have AOC, very likely
@dinoden3006
@dinoden3006 2 жыл бұрын
@@theomen49 it's all but guaranteed from the meta watch video that guard won't have AoC. Technically the new codex doesn't use the current data slate but supercedes it meaning the new codex shouldn't be played with AoC or barrage nerf.
@patgray5402
@patgray5402 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no the vanilla human faction has a strong tank? We better nerf immediately.
@Chris-jl6vp
@Chris-jl6vp 2 жыл бұрын
GW then proceeds to nerf the rough riders, manticore (again), basilisk and ogryn (again) alongside those units. Calling it. Marines and Guard switch places in viability.
@CadianColors
@CadianColors 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Its coming I'd bet.
@ericrhinehart9155
@ericrhinehart9155 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris-jl6vp same old story
@puenboy1
@puenboy1 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the 69th vulture gunship nerf for some reason
@anexistanthuman2435
@anexistanthuman2435 2 жыл бұрын
Only wondering why it has 13 wounds. 12 is nice and even.
@centi1364
@centi1364 2 жыл бұрын
Starting to think hydras are incredibly underrated, nice vid
@richard_n
@richard_n 2 жыл бұрын
For the cost, the Russ is the way to go for sure. I'm hoping GSC will be able to include them as Brood Brothers.
@32Loveless50
@32Loveless50 2 жыл бұрын
they can :) it is still just an Astra Militarum Detachment. but you will lose some things if you use to many points in it.
@InterrogatingTheCat
@InterrogatingTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
@@32Loveless50 Nope, you can only take "" units in a Brood Brothers detachment. And of course, that keyword is now gone in the new codex. So until the GSC Brood Brothers rule gets FAQ-d, it can't be done.
@samhunter1205
@samhunter1205 2 жыл бұрын
@@InterrogatingTheCat technically it can't be done in tournament play, but it can certainly be done in casual. Absolutely no-one is in any doubt about what that rule is supposed to mean.
@FrankyFes
@FrankyFes 2 жыл бұрын
i am sorry but i fail to see that a tank that kills 1,8 - 3 marine models (depending the weapon ) per turn is considered god tier tank... is it ok for others to kill 90 guardsmen per turn but is it bad if we kill 15 marines per turn? i really dont get it.... i am sure that we can be allowed to have smth good in our codex. i know i know people got used to the guard being trash for almost 5 years but sorry to inform everyone but we want to play too. also smth you guys fail to point out that with a plethora of bullshitery in 40k (-1 across the board, obscuring terrain, huge amounts of terrain , armies that can charge turnone, units that take fix dmg per phase , armies that kill 100 guardsmen per turn, armies that do 20+ mortals per turn , or units that you need to shoot them with 2k army and still dont die when on an objective) like last game i shot 1500 points worth of units in a single buffed unit on an onbective and i killed one model. so iam sorry that i fail to see the tanks as god ter. they are good (finally) but thats about it.
@0MaxK0
@0MaxK0 2 жыл бұрын
Hi all, a friendly Craftworld player here who just wants to say he's really happy to see that guard players finally have a competitive codex. Just a word of advice from someone who regularly had broken units: please use your powerful units/ build your lists responsibly... There are a few factions who just can't deal with 4-6 Leman Russ + Kasarkin 🙂
@Whoknows21356
@Whoknows21356 2 жыл бұрын
What Craftworld unit is broken?
@0MaxK0
@0MaxK0 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whoknows21356 "had" rather than still have. I remember 6th edition scatter laser spam, D cannons/scythes/ hemlocks/ warp hunters when they actually had destroyer weaponry and the wraith knights in 7th ed. I remember Ynnari dark reapers, harlequins and shining spears in 8th and until recently we had hail of doom spam dire avengers and windriders. We've certainly had really obnoxious builds in the past!
@Whoknows21356
@Whoknows21356 2 жыл бұрын
Oh okay. I thought you meant now. Yeah HoD was crazy good. It’s still good now but it’s more balanced without having Masterful shots. I think in January Harlequins are gonna get a decent point increase.
@jasongarfitt1147
@jasongarfitt1147 2 жыл бұрын
4 Russ, 100 infantry, still leaves 700ish points for other stuff
@drafty9580
@drafty9580 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasongarfitt1147 IT IS THE BANENLADE!!!!!!!
@CrashTheChao
@CrashTheChao 2 жыл бұрын
While not mention you can technically give a tank commander that has the Gatekeeper Relic the warlord trait Lead by Example to order itself to reroll 1s and even spread the reroll 1s order to squadron units around it. With these buffs I get the following damage output (with born soldiers and using unitcrunch for means*): Guardsmen - 5.5 Dead Space Marines (AoC) - 3.5 Dead Terminators (AoC) - 2.7 Dead T7 Vehicle - 8.9 wounds T8 5++ Damage -1 target - 6.2 wounds T8 2+ AoC - 6.8 Wounds Not sure if this is the best use of the 1 CP but depending on list maybe this is worth your time but it was some interesting math.
@hansw15
@hansw15 2 жыл бұрын
I intent to bring a Leman Russ army to a tournament in march, currently it consists of 2 tank commanders, 9 Leman Russ and 1 Hydra. 2 tank commanders with punisher gatling cannons and 3 heavy bolters. 2 Demolishers with a heavy Flamer and Multi Melta sponsons. 2 Executioners with a las Cannon and 2 heavy bolters (Might be 3 bolters, have to check models.) 2 Battle Cannons with a las Cannon and 2 heavy bolters. 1 of each variant into a squad and then 3 Vanquishers with a las Cannon and 2 heavy bolters. The army will be running Elite Sharpshooters and Grim Demeanour. Elite Sharpshooters should help the vanquishers a lot, and Grim demeanour gives access to Acceptable Losses. Letting a tank commander fire 29 shots into a unit engaging a Leman Russ in melee, and counting on the toughness of the Leman Russ to shrug off any Punisher or heavy Bolter hits.
@jackbishenden3386
@jackbishenden3386 2 жыл бұрын
I've found great success using the exterminator autocannon on my russes. While very niche, I charge my russes into my opponents units, forcing them to fall back to use ranged weaponry, or they have to stay there attacking this tank that refuses to die. Then in my next turn, because of not having blast, + a consistent number of shots from 3 HB and the autocannon, I can shoot my way through most of the squad, to then charge the next closest unit. The stratagem for having WS 3+ on a tank for a turn is useful as well for this as it also makes wound rolls of 6 throw out mortal wounds in the fight phase
@y2j1490yahoo
@y2j1490yahoo 2 жыл бұрын
you're an ldlot
@LysimedVenteel
@LysimedVenteel 2 жыл бұрын
My Imperial Knights got tabled turn 1 by three vanquishers and a gatekeeper tank commander
@devinbarlow3698
@devinbarlow3698 2 жыл бұрын
Dozer blades are free for basic leman russ tanks though I suspect it's probably a typo
@noneofyourbusiness4133
@noneofyourbusiness4133 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, I miss my pie plate cannons 😭
@y2j1490yahoo
@y2j1490yahoo 2 жыл бұрын
why ? they were trash and caused arguments.
@venkelos6996
@venkelos6996 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say overall I am very pleased with how LRs turned out, in the new codex. If I'm being honest, the only two things I wanted, and neither was "good", were for them to break the Demolisher Tank Commander, and to make the worthless Vanquisher better, again. Well, Tank Commanders are certainly no longer auto-include, though they are still good, the Demolisher is nice, but no longer the ONLY turret worth taking, and while the Vanquisher is still sort of hit or miss, that hit is fearsome. I really likecthe new Eradicator Plasma Cannon setup, the Vanquisher Cannon setup and just the overall format of the LR now.
@Parolonutt
@Parolonutt 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Demolisher because it's short and stubby like my flesh cannon
@coldsteel.and.courage
@coldsteel.and.courage 2 жыл бұрын
Kasrkin will shield the Russ from nerfs.
@hideshisface1886
@hideshisface1886 2 жыл бұрын
So basically - Executioner is your go to weapon against nearly everything you face - if you don't care about occasional self-inflicted mortal wound. Versatile and deadly. If all the turret options stay at the same price, this is the de-facto all-round best choice, hands down. Battle Cannon is a good versatile alternative, if you are hellbent on having some extra range and/or you hate the prospect of overcharging plasma cannon - while not as versatile as Executioner, it still deals reasonable, reliable damage to just about anything. Demolisher is still very good against heavy stuff, Vanquisher is still kind of meh, even against its dedicated targets. Punisher, I feel, kind of lost a lot of its effectiveness, considering there are tons of invulns around and that you no longer shoot double the amount of shots. Eradicator and Exterminator are still not really worth it, except maybe some absurdly niche situations.
@domhardiman6437
@domhardiman6437 2 жыл бұрын
What would be the Australian equivalent of Element Games for purchasing GW products?
@Ipwn477
@Ipwn477 2 жыл бұрын
There's a list of retailers and cities they're in on the Warhammer40k subreddit, it helped me find one in Canada that ships to me, but I don't know if any of the Australian ones ship
@TheKSL25
@TheKSL25 2 жыл бұрын
Combat Company or Gap Games
@alluraambrose2978
@alluraambrose2978 2 жыл бұрын
Can it defeat Angroff in 1 shot, no it can't Shadowsword ftw.
@puenboy1
@puenboy1 2 жыл бұрын
This comment section: WAAAHHHH WAAAAHHH THE TANK ARMY HAS BETTER TANKS THAN MY ELITE INFANTRY ARMY WAAAAHHHH
@anexistanthuman2435
@anexistanthuman2435 2 жыл бұрын
Marine players just can’t fathom why their tanks are worse than the guard ones. In lore it doesn’t make much sense, but guard players need a win after so long without a codex
@JennyGormanRitter
@JennyGormanRitter 2 жыл бұрын
@@anexistanthuman2435 it absolutely makes sense in fluff. Pound for pound a Russ can outshoot and outmanuever a Predator. It can shrug off the hit of a Predator, while the Predator steuggles to not buckle from a Russ.
@orangegills3179
@orangegills3179 2 жыл бұрын
@@anexistanthuman2435 lore has never translated well to TT. Somebody who reads the lore would think any space marine nigh-unkillable, a nightmare on the battlefield. In the TT a space marine can be killed by 1(1) guardsman rolling well today, or by a few guardsman rolling average.
@Thundor55
@Thundor55 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this right as I read your post!
@RFischer
@RFischer 2 жыл бұрын
Probably an oversight that will be FAQ'd but The Leman Russ does not have points for Dozer Blades. All the other heavy vehicles do (including the Chimera) but there is no mention of +5 points under the Leman Russ. At least in the special edition codex released with Cadia Stands.
@shae98sc2
@shae98sc2 2 жыл бұрын
Tempted to get a few Russes to run with my Scions. Doesn’t feel the same though…
@BrotherVoidBomber
@BrotherVoidBomber 2 жыл бұрын
Wait it's no longer 50 per melta sponson? Holy shit my army just got so much more cheaper.
@Lorddacenshadowind
@Lorddacenshadowind 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't 50 per sponson, was 50 for 2 though, went down to 30 for 2
@TarotNathers
@TarotNathers 2 жыл бұрын
I just want predators to be T8. And maybe for the laser destroyer on the gladiator to do a little more damage.
@JimH.
@JimH. 2 жыл бұрын
T8 doesn't really do much anymore. Not with the firepower of certain armies.
@anexistanthuman2435
@anexistanthuman2435 2 жыл бұрын
Predators are t8 lol, but only in chaos! Screw loyalists lmao
@JimH.
@JimH. 2 жыл бұрын
@@anexistanthuman2435 Remember that comment about a month from now.
@t3hSpAdEs
@t3hSpAdEs 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Auspex thanks for the vids
@noirerequiemii101
@noirerequiemii101 2 жыл бұрын
I think the culmination of an edition of feeling on the backfoot as usual has created a super strong faction. Probs still not as crazy as initial T’au, but I think guard will get away with a lot more
@PitFriend1
@PitFriend1 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing that still really bugs me about the tank is the size of the Battle Cannon. It’s HUGE. You can roll the head of a Guardsman model down the thing and it’s so large compared to the tiny turret it looks like it’d kill the commander of the vehicle when it’s fired. The resin turrets with Battle Cannons released from Forge World are much more reasonably sized, as are the Battle Cannon options on the new Rogal Dorn from what I can tell from pictures. Even the Battle Cannon on Imperial Knights are much smaller bore than the ones on the LR tanks.
@rhaivaen
@rhaivaen 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, even the FW ones had turrets that were sized by midgets, with a barrel that made the turret look like a toy
@dinoden3006
@dinoden3006 2 жыл бұрын
Leman Russ are definitely under costed. Compare them to a redemptor which is notably more points yet is slower, puts out a lot less damage and is less survivable.
@2lazy2makeausername81
@2lazy2makeausername81 2 жыл бұрын
it has a better save than questoris and abhorrent knights
@davidbowles7281
@davidbowles7281 2 жыл бұрын
@@2lazy2makeausername81 They should; walkers are more vulnerable than tanks because of legs and joints.
@TarotNathers
@TarotNathers 2 жыл бұрын
By that logic the russ should be T7 3+ armor since the majority of its armor is fucking riveted to the goddamn hull instead of being rolled homogenous armor. Enough to were even a decently power explosion would blow a section off by shearing the rivets. It's also a tall ass tank, so it shouldn't benefit from any cover bonuses.
@KnightsofTitan
@KnightsofTitan 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbowles7281 yeah that the problem if they are going gro be stronger than they need to be more points then
@benjaminvanduyne3787
@benjaminvanduyne3787 2 жыл бұрын
Dreadnought have the advantage of ap 5 and brutal melee. But they aren't the backbone of damage for the army.
@williamvega5422
@williamvega5422 2 жыл бұрын
I pray to thy emperor for the greatness of our tank named after one of your sons “The Executioner” which also uses the Executioner. I pray to thee don’t let the Russ get nerfed by the nuclear strike of GW’s January update. Thank you and praise be thy name. Memes aside 😂 I really like the new Russ and how everything is looking despite the demolisher getting only D6 shots. Though I believe their damage toughness and wounds is good I do think they should lose armor of contempt. Aside from that I would be happy. Thank you again Auspex for such a in depth and comprehensive guide to a much beloved tank.
@StevenZagaris
@StevenZagaris 2 жыл бұрын
Nice how Dozer blades are free for The Russ but not for a TC?
@BloodyArchangelus
@BloodyArchangelus 2 жыл бұрын
We need new tank named in… Dante legacy. As Sanguinius already exist. Want some crazy looking Italian renaissance stuff.
@chronosmalkeri4157
@chronosmalkeri4157 2 жыл бұрын
As a guard armoured player since beginning of 8th, 9th tanks feel like only slight increase in DPS because of consistency. Blind hoping to keep AoC
@shakyrob6512
@shakyrob6512 2 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy buying peoples things second hand when they aren't "good" then watching them get buffed.... For now at least. 6 Ironstriders for 200 11 Leman Russ Punishers for under 500 Wonder how the sellers feel now... 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️
@fluffly3606
@fluffly3606 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy the Vanquisher doesn't suck completely anymore. As a tank nerd, a battle tank without a long-barreled armour-piercing gun is hardly a battle tank at all. I'm fairly new to 40k and been leaning toward T'au up to this point (playing exclusively in Tabletop Simulator because I'm poor and have reservations about buying from a company like GW), but with the new Codex looking great and Darktide gameplay footage having my heart tell me that a Guardsman without a lasgun is heresy (in direct contradiction to my brain which tells me autoguns are underappreciated by the community) any doubt that I'm a Guard fan at heart is pretty much gone.
@H2OSoarin
@H2OSoarin 2 жыл бұрын
Played against guard a week ago, guard gets first turn and the Vanquisher 1 taps an armiger helverin off the table, then again the next turn. It was not a good game to be knights.
@Tehquall
@Tehquall 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found against knights the game almost always comes down to first turn roll. Each side has vehicles and serious firepower
@lemanruss7218
@lemanruss7218 2 жыл бұрын
The vanquisher lived? Also.. it max rolled on damage both times? Also, second time you didn't have a bondsman ability to reduce incoming damage by 1? Also you weren't playing mechanicus for the extra 1 wound on armigers and 2 wounds on titanic knights?
@Benevolent_sociopath
@Benevolent_sociopath 2 жыл бұрын
@@lemanruss7218 I was gonna say lol, how did it live and how was there no damage reduction or FNP on turn 2. Like unless they have an army of russes and there's not a lot of obscuring, the little knights should be mostly ok still.
@puenboy1
@puenboy1 2 жыл бұрын
Guard has never been a good matchup for knights, not even with 8e guard codex.
@weissraben4476
@weissraben4476 2 жыл бұрын
Luck. There's a one in nine chance of maxing out 12 wounds with a Vanquisher shot, as you need to roll 3 on both d3 rolls (wounds and mortal wounds). Twice in a row? That's a 1:81 chance.
@Silverdragon83X
@Silverdragon83X 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they will get up in point costs, after GW has sold enough of them... They are Top-candidates for point increase, because they are extremely good for their points!
@theoriginalcheebamech
@theoriginalcheebamech 2 жыл бұрын
is there a stateside equivalent to Element Games?
@chronosmalkeri4157
@chronosmalkeri4157 2 жыл бұрын
Took 7 LRs to a local tournaments. Plasma death ball. Boarded every opponent. Still came 6th as bullgryn are naff. Most lost tanks in match = 3 Vs armiger spam.
@FBI_Metal_Slime
@FBI_Metal_Slime 2 жыл бұрын
it still boggles my mind that the leman russ is tougher per the point than most space marine vehicles, not to mention just as fast and arguably hitting even harder (plus with more support thanks to orders)
@frenzymodexd
@frenzymodexd 2 жыл бұрын
Are you relatively new to the hobby? The Guard have always had some of the best vehicles and in lore each one is pretty precious when compared to the infantry.
@arbiters487
@arbiters487 2 жыл бұрын
You have to understand the IG russ is the space marine's terminators. It's by far the best unit in the codex and you can't effectively play the faction with any competition without it
@dwn2573
@dwn2573 2 жыл бұрын
Lore wise, every single space marine unit is massively underpowered. If the tabletop reflected the lore, space marines would just crush everyone but that wouldn't make for a very fun toy soldier game.
@Brother_Rony
@Brother_Rony 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't it be? Anything that isn't a land raider is worse then the leman russ. The guard are the tank army, the problem that most people don't get is that the leman russ isn't in all battles, guard rely more on things like salamanders and chimaeras
@Brother_Rony
@Brother_Rony 2 жыл бұрын
@@dwn2573 Yeah but if it did space marines would still have a problem. It's nice that the 1000 marines are now T6 and move 12 inches but the guy you go against has 15 000 guardsmen, 800 tanks, 200 artillery pieces and several hundred armored and scout vehicles. That or he has something like the custodes where he will bring a 100 of them and utterly wipe the floor with a thousand marines. Alternatively he could also bring necrons where a single shot from a warrior should kill any marine in a single hit as it disintegrates all matter at a molecular level with the doomsday ark where a single shot would crack the planet in half (hence the name doomsday). Most of the game is not lore accurate and purely down to whichever codex or faction is most pampered at the moment
@Tanuvein
@Tanuvein 2 жыл бұрын
Tank Company for sure. Right now running two Kriegsman with 6 Russes and 1 Baneblade. I plan to add a Dorn when they come out, might have to lose the Kriegsman due to upgrades but we'll see what I can fit in. I think if I skip the hull meltas on the Dorn I can get everything I want plus 2 infantry so I can save the CP and only use it on the Baneblade.
@jasongarfitt1147
@jasongarfitt1147 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how busted they would be if they did have "core"?
@willshields4480
@willshields4480 Жыл бұрын
Remember when you could get 2 Leman Russes in to a 500 point list?
@Ddog72
@Ddog72 2 жыл бұрын
Well GW had a official slogan on thier old website and I quote: "This aint no pussy eldar armor, son!"
@MrMegatronftw
@MrMegatronftw 2 жыл бұрын
I was painting a Leman To this video!
@pewbellina3983
@pewbellina3983 2 жыл бұрын
Can I really not buy the codex without the Cadia stands box?
@ww2destroyer
@ww2destroyer 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet, will have to wait until January for the official codex to be released, the one in the cadia stands box is a limited edition (preview) of the codex.
@pewbellina3983
@pewbellina3983 2 жыл бұрын
@@ww2destroyer well I guess we should be used to waiting at this point
@pewbellina3983
@pewbellina3983 2 жыл бұрын
@@ww2destroyer thanks for the answer though. For some reason that is incredibly hard information to find, or at least was for me
@y2j1490yahoo
@y2j1490yahoo 2 жыл бұрын
are you an ldlot?
@JB-kh7eb
@JB-kh7eb 2 жыл бұрын
Emperor: and with the mightiest weapons they shall be armed ... They shall ... Have machines so that no foe can best them in battle Hands marines predator tank. Hands guard a Russ with +1S, +1T, +1W, +1Sv, (-1 BS, -1Ld and -2Mv) With a free HB and a base gun with +1S, an extra AP, slap on a ton of extra rules and make it cost 5 more points. Emperor: trolololol
@markschultz4236
@markschultz4236 2 жыл бұрын
The number of people misreading 'Veteran Comandeer' is too damn high!
@GrimgorRulez
@GrimgorRulez 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like throwing all my gladiators ,vindicators, predators and lan raiders to trashbin
@Jumbo731
@Jumbo731 2 жыл бұрын
Against T7 vehicle -Executioner 8.7 -Demolisher 6.5 -Battle Cannon 5.8 -Vanquisher 5.5 -Doomsday Cannon 5.4 (while not moving) (no turret rule)🧂
@t3hSpAdEs
@t3hSpAdEs 2 жыл бұрын
Autocannon needs improvement
@MickeyMulligan
@MickeyMulligan 2 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feelings 6 shots is kinda a meh but S8 is not bad....
@anexistanthuman2435
@anexistanthuman2435 2 жыл бұрын
@@MickeyMulligan Half of the battle cannon variants are s8 or higher, the auto cannons are flatly worse in a lot of circumstances
@BarokaiRein
@BarokaiRein 2 жыл бұрын
You know it makes sense for the tank to be simple and really strong. It was named after the only illiterate primarch after all.
@georgeschmall9254
@georgeschmall9254 2 жыл бұрын
Angron can read?
@attilathenun
@attilathenun 2 жыл бұрын
So like, leaf blowers are back?
@The_E_Paladin
@The_E_Paladin 2 жыл бұрын
So, the Vanquisher cannon has almost the same stats as the Tau Railgun. On a platform that is tougher and has a better save at only 10 pts more expensive. With a lot more war gear options and orders. WTF?!
@TheKSL25
@TheKSL25 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck hitting with it. It's gone through to wound once in 2 games for me!
@eldoriath1
@eldoriath1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it lacks a free re-roll to hit and is slightly less mobile which I think is a fair trade. In order to get the re-roll you either need to give up Born soldiers or only get it on one tank for +20p. I play Tau and have run with dual hammerheads regularly and found them lacking in durability, but the vanquisher feels balanced compared to the hammerhead in points and rules in general
@The_E_Paladin
@The_E_Paladin 2 жыл бұрын
@@eldoriath1 A re-roll and 2” of movement vs improved toughness and armor save in addition to benefiting from Tank Orders. They can also be taken in Squadrons. I’m tired of the Tau being the “test” faction and other armies getting better versions of their kit. Like Guard ignoring the barrage rule.
@weissraben4476
@weissraben4476 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_E_Paladin The Hammerhead is also FLYING, which is massive for movement.
@The_E_Paladin
@The_E_Paladin 2 жыл бұрын
@@weissraben4476 Not as big an impact as you think.
@noneofyourbusiness4133
@noneofyourbusiness4133 2 жыл бұрын
LETS GOOOOO!!! Gimme my pie plates back!!!!!
@Bladecharge
@Bladecharge 2 жыл бұрын
Opps all plasma
@nodachibull8342
@nodachibull8342 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen such a combative and spiteful comment section on a video with only 20K views, like hot damn guys calm down a bit, y'all know how the cycle of power goes you should be used to it by now.
@homer7245
@homer7245 Жыл бұрын
"leman russ battle tank mass produced tanks with not so high quality, but cheap and many so compensates"(lore), on tabletop, has better guns than necrons which is superior in every single way when it comes to guns and technology" ahahaha ty gw
@noapteapestrada7139
@noapteapestrada7139 2 жыл бұрын
Laughs in 50 pts heavy lokhust destroyer
@Shedgaming_40k
@Shedgaming_40k 2 жыл бұрын
45 points bud lokhust heavys are competitively priced
@s.h-d6074
@s.h-d6074 2 жыл бұрын
My Man, you forgot that the Dozerblade is free...so why not take it?
@rileysmith7763
@rileysmith7763 2 жыл бұрын
I believe there’s a codex issue right now, where the dozer blade is written as free on LRBT’s but cost 5pt on the Tank Commanders. Probably waiting for GW to clear that up before he gives his stamp of “must include”
@s.h-d6074
@s.h-d6074 2 жыл бұрын
@@rileysmith7763 exploit while we can 😄
@arturoeduardoescartinrojas5762
@arturoeduardoescartinrojas5762 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think GW Will nerf russes. If they they do lose AOC that Is. If they dont, yea, they should be nerfed
@Kingofsea7591
@Kingofsea7591 2 жыл бұрын
So since world eaters are getting released with a 9th ed book that means they don't need AoC since they will have updated rules and durability just like our vehicles
@joeofdoom
@joeofdoom 2 жыл бұрын
Theres nothing wrong with the Russ rules wise but its way too cheap for what it does, GW are just gonna smack a whole bunch of points onto it and bring it back in line.
@theblindbuildergrandminuti5648
@theblindbuildergrandminuti5648 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if they loose AoC they will still be great, but it will not be as simple to always push up with 3x HF into most anything infantry.
@biowepcosmic
@biowepcosmic 2 жыл бұрын
Now normal kit is better than the demo kit because you get vanquishers and battle cannon in one box
@daanvanderrol5627
@daanvanderrol5627 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with 40k is that you can spend 15 minutes of video about the buffs and synergies for a single unit. You need a second brain to play this game nowadays.
@y2j1490yahoo
@y2j1490yahoo 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're just an ldlot. Maybe stick to candyland.
@daanvanderrol5627
@daanvanderrol5627 2 жыл бұрын
@@y2j1490yahoo good plan. Ask your mum to install it on you phone so we can play together.
@y2j1490yahoo
@y2j1490yahoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@daanvanderrol5627 I don't know what a mum is. Maybe stick to the basic rules in the starter box, they make those so kids can play.
@georgeschmall9254
@georgeschmall9254 2 жыл бұрын
If you have been living under a rock, I recommend World War Toons model kits instead of official Citadel Models
@linzeli1247
@linzeli1247 2 жыл бұрын
Lrbt, 155 pt unit with reliable and less rng output? Good. Karskin, 100 point unit deals 18 mw with 2cp? Bad. For the new guard codex, it just felt old model remained good and new models is pure power creep.
@orangegills3179
@orangegills3179 2 жыл бұрын
Just rewrite the stratagem so that you can't loophole your way into more than 6mw with it
@frankcastle9691
@frankcastle9691 2 жыл бұрын
Tanks seems kinda pointless vs titans and demon primarchs.
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be very surprised if these dont go up to at least 200pts per, theyre absolutely obnoxious value with all the abilities and synergies you can throw on them
@jasongarfitt1147
@jasongarfitt1147 2 жыл бұрын
They won't put them up 33% base points cost, that's a huge increase . Maybe make them more like 10 points more to make them less spammable
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 2 жыл бұрын
@Jason Garfitt i think they definitely could, theyve done more than that in the past and a 10 point increase basically changes nothing
@jasongarfitt1147
@jasongarfitt1147 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ws_minion reality will likely be somewhere in between
@johnmallett1857
@johnmallett1857 2 жыл бұрын
First
@crom6573
@crom6573 2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect
@noneofyourbusiness4133
@noneofyourbusiness4133 2 жыл бұрын
Blatantly false
@JennyGormanRitter
@JennyGormanRitter 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations
@JennyGormanRitter
@JennyGormanRitter 2 жыл бұрын
Space Marine players are having a fit. I love it.
@owenthomas5103
@owenthomas5103 2 жыл бұрын
This is nothing, I remember when a battle cannon killed every marine under a template on a 2+ 😂
@XealotCoils
@XealotCoils 2 жыл бұрын
God forbid space marines would like a semi decent tank to use.
@JennyGormanRitter
@JennyGormanRitter 2 жыл бұрын
@@XealotCoils bruh. At this point most of your Primaris options are walking tanks, especially with AoC and a plethora of buffs both chapter specific and for Space Marines as a whole. I mean for Christ's sake look at the Gladiator. The thing can potentially put out 4x the firepower of a standard Russ at only (roughly) twice the cost. If you were to say Primaris could use a Wirlwind type unit... yeah, I can see that. Tanks, though? You're all set man.
@XealotCoils
@XealotCoils 2 жыл бұрын
@@JennyGormanRitter AoC is going away and what chapter specific buffs? You're talking about the Repulsor Executioner. Which no. It has one big gun, a Gatling gun, storm bolters and heavy stubbers. Nothing like multi meltas, plasma sponsons and heavy bolters and lascannons. It only has volume of fire, not quality. S4 guns are shit. A Leman would destroy a repulsor.
@JennyGormanRitter
@JennyGormanRitter 2 жыл бұрын
@@XealotCoils until the next dataslate SM have AoC. There's even word around the block that key SM units will end up keeping AoC even after the next balance slate. I'm definitely thinking of the Gladiator, not the Repulsor. The Gladiator at least knows it's a tank while the Repulsor is just.... confused at best.
@REAPER3382
@REAPER3382 2 жыл бұрын
What would be a good run for 2 leman russ battle tank and 2 demolisher? I was thinking 1 battle tank commander w/gatekeeper 1 with battle cannon 1 with executioner cannon 1 with demolisher Thoughts?
@Damnedlegion40k
@Damnedlegion40k 2 жыл бұрын
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