So Shadowswords got Scarier - Baneblade Variants Leaked Profiles from Codex Astra Militarum

[@baval5]

The only gun in the entire game that would be justified getting ignores invuls....didnt.

[@LemanRussVanquisher]

I can't believe that, 100% agree if anything should ignore invulns it's the weapon designed to shoot through TITAN void shields

[@jimmysmith2249]

@@LemanRussVanquisher Right? If the las cannons on wheels can ignore invulns, why does a VOLCANO cannon not?

[@fleshxhammerx0351]

Haha you think GW cares for the miserable guard

[@caseco4979]

@@fleshxhammerx0351 this take makes zero sense especially now after they've gotten a range refresh

[@jacobzinn1]

@@jimmysmith2249 because otherwise people probably wouldnt play it

[@tomyorke3412]

In the lore the ground around the impact area turns into molten glass and slag from the huge amount of heat from the energy transfer

[@magicmanscott40k]

So glad it got buffed. The baneblade is what got me into warhammer 40k

[@jacobzinn1]

Mine is an auto include in my army even though they havent been "competitive". People I would play against would always be so excited to play against it since they either rarely got to see one or never had before. Making the game even more fun when both people enjoy it :)

[@patykaarplegos6282]

@@jacobzinn1 I agree. I have been loving fielding it, and while not the most competitive, it makes a wonderful centerpiece. The shadowsword is my favorite, the asthetic is really cool. My friends love and hate it, love how cool it is and hate it shooting thier stuff .

[@lokenontherange]

@@patykaarplegos6282 Shadowswords are funny because their gun in lore is semi arcane tech that can kill a small titan. In game their gun is pretty good, but nowhere near that good.

[@BloodyArchangelus]

@@lokenontherange by new stats, it can kill small titan

[@linkofvev]

I've long since sold mine but it was what originally got me into Imperial Guard, back in 4th edition.

[@janwalte8302]

He does not sleep. He simply makes videos. He is always up to date. Let's be greatful for his sublime work!

[@Sako1181]

#TheMonotoneMachine

[@IAmTheDawn]

Im not a guard player but I am super excited with the new changes coming to the Guard Codex.

[@cassiecaradoc2070]

I wonder if the Stormblade is going to carry on the proud tradition of Forge World pieces being a weird "pay to lose" scheme.

[@kosakuito9496]

Mine is now 20 years Old and i dont think its ever been "good". Still love it. Whats not to like about the Galaxies biggest Plasma Cooker

[@midorixiv]

I always just viewed forge world stuff as more collector pieces than for serious gameplay tbh

[@H2OSoarin]

I too am sat here looking at a model I put days into painting and customising and cannot help but think GW is going to make us wait until 10th for a data slate update.

[@luuk341]

@@midorixiv define "serious" gameplay. Making FW models so bad that they are a detriment in a casual game is not justifiable in any way

[@andrewamann2821]

The real head scratcher here is that this tank, and the other Baneblade chassis assault gun variants have had a full-on plastic release for ages...

[@grud8495]

I'm getting that shadowsword, not because it does a ton of damage, but because it's so sexy AND does a ton of damage.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

A titan killer got scary? It's about time

[@mikeg8564]

"Engine.... kill!"

[@Deleto8026]

I can assure you it killed titans before

[@firestorm2381]

Got? It's always been bad, this model single handedly killed the fun fielding titans brought to the little play group my friends and I have

[@sturm9087]

@@firestorm2381 good, titans kill the fun of other units

[@hughtitchener6478]

Unless there is stratagem support this new profile does less damage on average to a knight than the old cadian shadowsword in 8th

[@jjkingish]

Wow. Another one! Auspex tactics never sleeps when warhammer news comes!

[@Wizardsfirstrule57]

that turret weapon boost is huge

[@mortenbrandtjensen6470]

I like that the Baneblade and Hellhammer are different weapons and fill different purposes.

[@tablekun8690]

Everyone gangsta until the genestealer player pulls out a baneblade

[@ConfusCat]

When you point your shadowsword at that one tyranid gaunt holding the objective...

[@Markos2007]

Hope they didn't choose warp shielding 🥴

[@linzeli1247]

And wounding on 3

[@mrfeicco]

I'm just happy a lot of my favorite 40k youtube content creators interact with each other. Especially Mordian and Auspex right now! Great stuff as always!

[@dudebromanguy]

I'm thinking/hoping that all the cool abilities the cannons get will still be available but as a strategem. Either one strat for each variant, or one strat that does different things based on the variant you apply it to. I could see a 2cp strat for tremor cannon that when you hit a unit with the tremor cannon, it halves the target's movement and they cannot advance or fall back on the following turn.

[@patykaarplegos6282]

I love the shadow sword. Been running it and it's great, though my meta isn't super competitive. It's killed knights many times as is, so I hope it retains the reroll wound rolls against titanic units. It's really nice, even wounding on 2s.

[@brandonjeffries3638]

Know nothing about guard.. lol but I hope it doesn't keep it's Rerolls to wound because that would be Ridiculous with the buffs it just got.. it's wounding on 2s already why would they give it Rerolls that would be way to much it's a little much now..

[@vornamenachname1218]

@@brandonjeffries3638 have you see the current rules for other armies? This whole edition is stuffed with "too much".

[@locarno24]

I think the S18 remains a pretty good thing and the damage increase is huge as one hit will total most vehicles. One thing I never liked was that all the Shadowsword's boosts were tied to TITANIC - which meant that units which were almost-but-not-quite superheavy (like the Land Raider) got off scot free. With the land raider going to T9, that's a big deal: a shot from a current volcano cannon on average won't kill a land raider whilst a shot from a new one will do a reassuring 75% overkill on average rolls.

[@Mr_Waffle.]

The Shadowsword here is a perfect example of why giant robots wouldn't work in the "real world" - a ground vehicle will always weigh less than a big walking mech thanks to the square cube law, will be able to support more weight thanks to the more stable platform, and therefore be able to carry a bigger and badder gun than a mech could carry enough armour to defend against. As much as I love things like Gundam and Mechwarrior, realistically a giant robot would always die the first time a tank with a big gun sees it. Luckily Knights and Titans have giant magic shields!

[@ashg9023]

you think knights and titans were ever supposed to be practical? they are superstitious weapons of war and function more as symbols

[@eugenax9345]

Track pins + track links don't like going through iron+cement buildings. And from around 90 tonnes, metallurgy + physics + terrain types relations start to go crazy.

[@michaelkeha]

Counter point a tank that large with a gun like that isn't a realistic prospect either but hey details

[@DK-zl5gb]

Yeah, a mech is much less efficient at it's job. It's just a way to make something that looks like a human be able to shoot and cut off limbs from other robots without going into rated R territory. In real life, having something human-looking is always less efficient. Take robots on auto assembly lines. They have dedicated jobs, and their design reflects that. But giant mechs are still cool. I really don't know why, but they're cool.

[@BloodyArchangelus]

Tanks dont have mobility and can not use shoot and run tactic as Mecha can. Baneblade earth pressure would kill any kind of mobility with his tonnage. Even in Mechwarrior tanks exist and can be deadly - omnimech main feature here is a mobility and adaptiveness.

[@greenjoseph4]

It will be interesting to see what they do to the Macharius tanks in light of these changes and the upcoming Royal Dorm tank…

[@Lange_Praline]

Nothing. The lore wise superior marine falchion with two lances Was worse than The shadowsword with one lance for a long time. They took away The t9 on marines Super heavies with ne forgeworld book on a tank that costs way more. Now even The even guard gets T9? Dont get me wrong, the shadowsword Profile feels very scary how it should be

[@luuk341]

@@Lange_Praline Same with the two biggest Imperial Knights. The Porphyrion and Asterius were both T9 but they removed that. Now the Landraider, Rogal Dorn and a bunch of others DO get it.

[@Lange_Praline]

@@luuk341 well, a Land raider deserves it, even Tho the loyal Version is still t8 ... landraiders should be one of the best vehicles the imperium could field. But they are a joke currently. And yes, the big knights feel better with t9 as well

[@okonkwojones]

They really should make a plastic of that, because that’s one of the best looking sci-fi tanks I’ve seen.

[@richmcgee434]

@@Lange_Praline I watched a game with a T9 CSM at the FLGS the other day. The orks they were facing off against couldn't touch the damn thing at range, there wasn't a weapon in their whole army that could wound on better than a 5+ and it was saving against their AT shots on 3+ most of the time. When it did roll over to where getting past its screening units made close combat a possibility, the thing unloaded Abbie and a Terminator squad, which proceeded to tear the heart out the ork army in short order. Most armies will have some S9+ shooting to deal with this kind of thing, but orks are hosed against T9 targets as long as they play even halfway smart about screening. It's the first time in 9th edition I've seen any LR actually perform well.

[@Golden_Wolf_Gaming]

So the tank with one volcano cannon is scarier than the tank with two of them

[@thebaron2277]

Which one has 2?

[@cabal426]

The Falchion? But it wasnt in this video so im not sure either.

[@ethanawesome9174]

@@thebaron2277 Space Marine Falchion super-heavy tank from Forge World

[@Golden_Wolf_Gaming]

@@thebaron2277 Falchion. But it’s worse in every way now despite being more expensive

[@Torguemada]

@@Golden_Wolf_Gaming One would expect that all the other vehicles with Volcano cannons gget updated to match the new stat line for the weapon.

[@matjov]

Imperial Armour Compendium seriously needs a rewrite.

[@dracometeors3010]

Tyranids Agree...

[@hobblesofkarth3943]

voidshields need to be completely reworked, fucking terrible rule.

[@matjov]

FW Knights and the Martial Legacy nonsense.

[@Silverdragon83X]

They won't do that, until 10th with a new book... They only changed a few things in the Compendium, to match the codices, mostly by adding keywords and removing old rules...

[@matjov]

@@Silverdragon83X imagine having spent money on that joke of a book. Bad rules and no pictures 😑

[@daveicaria]

My whole army is 90% Leman Russ tanks by points currently, I debated a Baneblade but the points cost when I could just jam 3 more Leman Russ tanks didn't seem worth it. I think these will still be beaten out by the Rogal Dorn and Russ varieties, but not losing all those command points to include one in a 2k point game may be worth.

[@hobblesofkarth3943]

.....90% leman russ tanks. Friend, i hate you.

[@daveicaria]

@@hobblesofkarth3943 I seem to tend towards "field big Heavy Support units en masse" in nearly all my armies lol.

[@hobblesofkarth3943]

@@daveicaria i just cry in custodes. Guard tanks and basilisks just bully me. Every Apoc game up here there is a guy that brings 25 basiliisks and like 40 russes and he destroys everything on the fucking board. warlord titans, demon primarchs, my 6k points of custodes.... just effortlessly.

[@daveicaria]

@@hobblesofkarth3943 that's nutty. Demolisher Cannons would definitely be pretty effective against Custodes, the really terrifying thing is those Vertus bikes that can one-shot a Leman Russ on a charge and then just consolidate 6" right into the next one lmao.

[@hobblesofkarth3943]

@@daveicaria the bikes got nerfed pretty hard. 1 d3+3 missile then like 5 attacks s7 ap-2 2d does NOT kill tanks well, ive tried. even battle cannons do very well against us.

[@hartssquire9386]

I think there should be a certain point where your Invuln just doesn't matter because you've been thrown violently against a wall and splattered like a blood filled grape. Like maybe strength being 3x toughness is no Invuln so it takes S9 for a guardsman and S12 for an Astartes

[@JennyGormanRitter]

Can't believe the Shadowsword doesn't ignore invulns... but the Vanquisher and Heavy Las do?... It's a titan killer. This should be the ONLY unit in the Guard that ignores invulns.

[@arbiters487]

This shouldn't ignore invulns with that level of damage, give the knights a chance against the new guard! If it ignores invulns you would be able to reliably Table an imperial knights player turn one from across the board

[@JennyGormanRitter]

@@arbiters487 the same way a Knights player can reliably table a tank IG list? No one asked for 12D. We expected 2D6 with ignore invulns. That makes sense with this weapon. It's literally designed to one shot *Titans*

[@michaelkeha]

Ignore invulns is arguably one of the most powerful tools in the game and should be dished out very very sparingly if this is the only gun that should have it for Guard you have made them not only far worse mechanically you have limited their builds drastically and if you didn't notice all the guns that got the ignore so far have been low shot count guns with alright damage the Shadowsword has more shots than most of them and higher damage that's the balance also even in lore a shadowsword can't drop a titan in a single shot nor get through void shields with a single shot so it's a bit of a moot point

[@JennyGormanRitter]

@@michaelkeha How to say "I don't play Guard" without just saying it: Guard was doing fine before without the Vanquisher ignoring invulns. The Heavy Las doesn't even exsist yet. How in the hell can you possibly say it "hurts IG mechanically" when ignoring invulns wasn't even a thing this time 7 months ago? The Shadowsword is the only unit in the Astra Militarum that should have this rule. It already fills a niche role, and as I said, no one asked for flat 12 damage. If they made it 2D6+3 damage with ignore invulns this model would make worlds more sense than as it currently stands.

[@JennyGormanRitter]

@@michaelkeha also.... did you just really say a Shadowsword can't one shot a titan? Have you even read "Shadowsword" by Dan Abnett? It's pretty clear they absolutely can one shot a Riever, which in itself is almost a 3k model in point costs. Don't be mad that IG is more than just flashlights, bruv.

[@aceshigh1984]

Bit off topic and i know that it would be a lot of work for you, but would it ever be possible to do a tier ranking for the Horus Heresy like you do with 40k factions? Because i've seen opinions all over the place, people tearing one legion down while others claim they're one of the strongest (for example, seen some people say that White Scars play amazing, while others say they're one of the worst legions), so i'd be curious about your take on it

[@Chuckbreakseven]

You’re my hero, these breakdowns are LIFE

[@NornQueenKya]

30 wounds is nice

[@sinenomine7115]

The Vulkan Mega Bolter needs more shots. MOAR DAKKA is kinda it's only point.

[@richmcgee434]

Ummm...many of those hulls don't actually have a main turret, so do the ones with a fixed mount main gun (including the Shadwsword) actually get all that "turret weapon" rules stuff? For that matter, do the lascannon turrets mounted on top of the sponsons count as turret weapons for the rules, or are they just treated as though they were regular guns?

[@brandonjeffries3638]

That's ridiculous how a 470pts model can easily wipe a 400-800pt model A TURN!!!

[@brandonjeffries3638]

@@thegorefatherdonkhorneleon5159 it's a easy Money maker that's for sure.. I own a seraptek heavy construct and it's 600pts and does WAY less damage and is WAY Less tanky... So drop it 300pts right now! Lol

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

Maybe the Tremor Cannon gets a stratagem like groundshaker shells? Also, if your presentation is right, the Banehammer and Baneblade have the same AP on their main gun

[@Silverdragon83X]

I hope so, because this is one of my favourite variants, especially it can transport a unit, that can also fire out the tank...

[@mikeg8564]

I really like how each seems to have a dedicated role

[@noneofyourbusiness5134]

Gonna miss the banehammers tremor Canon halving movement, gave it a definite niche and would of been interesting with the new deathstrike rules. Plus kind of socks only having one unit firing out rather than picking out the best weapons of all the units aboard.

[@felipeopazo2662]

So, with a Lot of toughness 8 and 9 units as of late. What do we do with the melta? Wounding on 4+ and 5+ leaves marines/sororitas with little AT? I guess i'll start running lascannons as soon as they are fixed, they can't compete with melta right now...

[@jreimer666]

Woooo! Hope these are close to right. Good for both my steel legion AND GSC

[@cianmac3934]

This is the only weapon that should ignore invuls imo

[@sanguinius6815]

I'm very new to the tabletop side of 40k, the shadowsword still the Guards apex predator against super heavies? I just am not at the point where I can look a a statline and know exactly where something stands.

[@indecisionator]

Yes Shadowswords are amazing against knights + other titanics

[@Tillman581]

Always wanted to try a list with my Scions and a Stormlord. All those special weapons in the firing deck always sounded nasty to me. Though just having one giant model on the board probably means it's dead turn one :/

[@BloodyArchangelus]

T9 is a returning of 14 armor in worst way possible, you dont have back armor for melee weapons and people would spam d weapons again(MW) so MW spam is absolute, but there is problem 30+ wounds. gw would try to fix it and would include auto-BOOM weapon against venicles.

[@michaelkeha]

I mean dude literally it's a tank that is a quarter or more of your points so yes it should be able to tank a comical amount of fire and live having them drop to Las cannon spam would be absurd

[@BloodyArchangelus]

@@michaelkeha Gw already had it problem in 6-7. we got D weapons and haywire as toxic solution.

[@Bobamelius]

I'm interested to know if these behemoths, these pinnacles of Imperial tank engineering, firepower and durability, these near-priceless relics, will get any form of damage mitigation or invulnerable save. I already know the answer, but thinking about it depresses me.

[@weissraben4476]

The thing about the Shadowsword is that it gets few shots that are /massively/ overkill against basically anything in the game - if the target doesn't have more than 12 wounds, or it isn't a squad of multiple 8+ wounds models (do these even exist?), then it's going to utterly vaporize just a couple of them. Of course, against stuff with a lot of wounds the song changes its tune; but that's not the great majority of targets available.

[@cousinzeke4888]

That's precisely what this thing is for, it's a titan hunter.

[@weissraben4476]

@@cousinzeke4888 Point, but there's such a thing as being overspecialized.

[@Lange_Praline]

Now the marine super heavys Look even more rediculus than before. Hope there will be a fw Update some time to make The superior Tanks at least in line what seems like a nice and scary Profile like a titan hunter should have.

[@purestrain3099]

Shadowswords 1 hitting knights or bigger relies upon them keeping laser targeters, since the turret rule give them +1 to BS not to hit, a +1 to hit would make them hit on 2s. I would also like to say that im skeptical that it would even gain the turret rule, as the weapon is hull mounted, but GW does GW things.

[@cameronwatts5989]

I really feel a stormlord is still a sleeper tank. On its own its good.... but with 20 infantry firing from the back its amazing!

[@alexshaw0704]

Hell hammer will always have a place on the table and in my heart. with a lot of terminators rolling on the table (at least in my local meta) I’ll still be taking one where I can

[@coltonlong7562]

The biggest issue with the baneblade chassis for me was GW standard terrain! Can't get them past half board, and you're missing out on the melee and transport uses! Also it dies way too easily.

[@brandonjeffries3638]

T9 2+Sv AOC? Im pretty sure it's not dying as easy as you think against almost all armies?

[@coltonlong7562]

@@brandonjeffries3638 I suppose I should have been more clear, that was an issue I had with it for most of 9th, which I think is an inarguable problem it did have. Now it's a bit tough. There's still a ridiculous amount of AP on the boards now.

[@brandonjeffries3638]

@@coltonlong7562 I get it now.. but that's why your seeing power Creep everywhere.. AP3-5 weapons, ignore invulns, D12 weapons, -1D, AOC.. it's getting out of hand in some aspects.

[@RiffSilverthe1andonly]

Me on a guard leak like a bullgryn on a heretic

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

I'm an eldar player and the only way i see myself taking out one of these is to give my fire dragon exarch burning heat so that whenever his squad is within 9 inches they auto wound if they hit. 4 D6+2 for the fusion Guns and D6+4 for the firepike but even then I'm not sure it's enough to take one out.

[@fishsing7713]

Rogal Dorn reborn as a tank Now Shadowsword, template for Perty's Tormentor got leak. Poetic

[@ZeWrAtH]

Isn't the Shadowsword specifically designed to penetrate Void Shields? Why does the cannon not ignore inv saves then? O_o

[@adept5500]

Void shields are not just invulnerable saves - they’re layered defenses that cause hits to become damage 0. The way the volcano cannon is written would actually be good for that.

[@CMTechnica]

The loss of steel behemoth is catastrophic, but at least it’s tougher now

[@Silverdragon83X]

It is still titanic, so gets the basic rules for itanic units, so not that bad...

[@TheLightLOD]

I wonder if the Shadowsword retained its "Shadowsword Targeters" rule with the accuracy buff, if it did that would make it hit on a 2+ against Knights...

[@TheTokarev33]

As long as the Stormlord keep the open top shooting rule im keeping it in my list. Shame I cant stuff 40 veterans and special weapon squads all with plasma guns inside of it anymore though

[@DismemberTheAlamo]

My real question is if the stormlord can transport the new field ordiance batteries. Im gonna assume the latter will NOT be infantry, but if they are...

[@hynousek1]

I am curious what doctrines, strategems and upgrades will work best with sup-heavies. At least order will be available for them.

[@Corellian]

I for one like the Shadowsword, it has a good chance of getting a couple shots in with 2+ to wound a Knight, if they fail those it's bye bye. Now here's to hoping they get something to survive a first turn of Knight shooting.

[@michaelkeha]

Even if you don't kill it ripping 12 wounds out of a knight is enough to effectively stunt it's performance

[@Grithertime]

Good to know I have 2, but is seems like the Stormsword was 2nd in most of the lists except mass infantry. That may push it into a list? Or did I miss something, still can't maneuver as well as a Russ and the Dorn tank depending on it's size...

[@TeapotGamingBailey]

With all the leaks so far, it looks like the guard are finally gonna bring it

[@kylewells6871]

I killed one yesterday with a full health knight desecrater, the shadows word shot it on death at its regular bs. It hit me back with 4 shots and did 48 damage to desecrater.

[@Elijah.Lionel.Newmacht]

Quite sad banehammer lost the limited movement would’ve been a fluffy dkok super heavy alongside artillery

[@electrohalo8798]

Finally, my beloved shadow sword has been done justice!

[@zackarieneifert7014]

am curious as to if the necron warrior calculation was including reanimation, or if you just happened to pick them out of a bucket.

[@hideshisface1886]

Demolisher cannon on Baneblade not getting the same updates as Leman Russ' variant annoys me. Consistency of weapons was always the strong point of 40k. Bolter would be bolter, no matter who uses it. This is a bad precedent if that is true. That said... Banehammer changes seem pretty sweet. You finally get a transport variant with some reasonable anti-armour capability. There may actually be a reason to use that thing.

[@chandlermontano9910]

Nice to see the buffs to the baneblade....but a 500pts tank is the same toughness as a 5500pt warlord titan.... Tbh titans have been ludicrously overcosted and ridiculously underwhelming on fire power since the beginning of 9th. Sigh. Seeing this gives me hope that titans will get a much needed update for us collector's.

[@captainflapjax7240]

Can't help but notice that the Stormsword got 2nd in every list except the most basic infantry one... Seems like that's the best of the bunch of it can take all comers like that

[@Brab3r]

Lords of war are very cool, although current terrain means you can barely move them unless they fly. Any reason space marines STILL have martial legacy? Do any other factions have to pay an extra cp to run a lord of war (or elites in some of the dreads case)?

[@richmcgee434]

More T9 stuff, great. At least these are more niche, but any of them are just an unanswerable problem for an ork shooting list. If you can't get enough klaws and saws on the thing it might as well be ignored - which doesn't work so well when a CSM Land Raider with a Terminator death blob and Abbie is what you're forced to deal with.

[@michaelcooper941]

Gotta love how absolutely useless my Reaver titan is now in comparison... :(

[@bringerebrethil6176]

I think Shadowsword would be even better based on the custom regiment traits if they still have access to them.

[@Saidan79]

Does the Track Guards rule even have any practical use? I cannot fathom any weapon effective against a Baneblade-type tank that is Damage 1, and when somebody decides to shower it with lots of Lasgun or Bolter profiles, they do not even have an AP + the tank has a 2+ save anyway.

[@StalowyZolw]

What about Stormblade (plasma blastgun equipped variant)?

[@mostromorti_7564]

Can't wait for the guard release!

[@richard_n]

They definitely needed to upgrade this line to make it viable in game.

[@richmcgee434]

Okay, why don't most/all the main guns on these things have Blast? Or did it just get left off the slides?

[@LysimedVenteel]

Don’t tell me the Stormlord is weak. Tell the forty guardsmen it has in the back.

[@michaelkeha]

Of which if new firing deck rule is correct only one squad of 10 can fire out if instead all the best guns of those 4 squads

[@arakisstudio]

Stormsword seems to be a winner with good dammage vs terminators and heavy targets

[@monkeyhammer]

Seems like the storm sword is acctually the best all rounder if I'm reading the slide right

[@ohgoditsjames94]

Surprised they didn’t make them t10 tbh, then again, people would probably cry about that!

[@theomen49]

looks like the stormsword has the best profile overall to me.

[@kengeerts1406]

I'm gonna need to rush in there and Hive tyrant this thing

[@SaladSharkGaming]

Makes me laugh that an Archon would likely take 6 Volcano rounds to the face and still be fine....

[@therealbullTA]

you missed the fact that the stormlord has a 40 model troop capacity...i mean,it did,i hope it hasnt gone down...which is probably partly why it costs so much but doesnt do as well as other with its guns....dont think there is another basic gw(non forge world) model that can carry 40 models...thats 13 ogryn(going up to t6 and getting damage reduction) and an officer!

[@gordoncree2899]

t9 is same as warlord titan..

[@cavemansam8400]

Just running some quick and probably bad maffs Baneblade looks it kills 3.33 marines with main gun and shadowsword 2.7 That AP-5 is actually balancing out the low number of shots more than you'd instinctively think because nothing is saved.

[@YoutubeInks]

I don't need, I don't need, I don't need. I NEED

[@Shinyrelic]

I somewhat regret buying my friend a baneblade kit now.

[@devilpistons1269]

Forgive any pedantry, but the benefits you mention at 2:03 and after aren't given to the Baneblade and its siblings for being Lords of War, but for being Titanic. Guilliman, Mortarion, Magnus, Zarakynel, and armigers and war dogs, as non-Titanic Lords of War, do not get those benefits (well, "being scary in combat" notwithstanding).

[@leonaudacity5313]

Still have yet to open up my baneblade kit 😅

[@hendrikmoons8218]

Will they be usable by genestealer cults?

[@tastiGMmaster2099]

Sure, if you follow the “only a max of 25% of your points can be Brood Brothers” rule. Which, on a standard competitive army, one Baneblade is going to take up most of it.

[@thatguy963]

Just ignore them, it takes 5 seconds to look and see that, yes, you can take it. It needs to follow the 25% Brood Brother rule of course. Which, if you're playing any reasonably sized battle - say 2000 - you can do easily

[@hendrikmoons8218]

@@thatguy963 ty, i do not have this specific codex, i am interested in the army and i got a baneblade box with extra weapon ports .... maybe a future project.

[@quirkyturtle6652]

My friend already fears the shadow sword so I got some bad news for him. (He runs two wraith knights against me half the time)

[@tiobridge841]

Doomhammer looks perfect for melting marine squads - Maybe it's overkill but it's good overkill!

[@KevTheSheep]

can't wait to drop 470 points on one shotting a single Rhino

[@OniFeez]

Armour of Contempt + +1 save vs Dam1 and a default 2+ save would be absolutely broken imo, functionally immortal to damage 1 weapons.

[@notdoomguy1616]

So, you're telling me it's impossible to destroy super-heavy armour with small arms fire? Get outta 'ere

[@OniFeez]

@@notdoomguy1616 It might make sense, but nothing should actually be immune to damage. It's a game first and foremost. And it's not that simple anyway, park that thing on an objective and it's not even worth trying to do a hail mary on it with that sort of damage resistance, even if it was like on 1 wound remaining.

[@notdoomguy1616]

@@OniFeez Well... it's not "immune" It takes 2016 lasgun shots at BS4+ or 1512 bolt rifle shots at BS3+. Which makes sense, as it's a SUPER HEAVY.

[@MrNevin86]

so baneblades and there variants are now more deadly then a fellblade or a falchion god dam.

[@miafillene4396]

Thank the God Emperor!!! About damn time!

[@foxtayle683]

IT IS THE BAAAAANEBLAAADE!!!

[@thegorefatherdonkhorneleon5159]

Expected this power creep but its just mental how super heavies (eg falchion) went from T9 to T8 this edition and now Guard SHVs are going back to T9 and the twin volcano on the falchion is just pitiful compared to the single barrel on rhe Shadowsword.

[@MrUltimategamer44]

That’s just called forgeworld models in general not being good

[@moldiworp9143]

Bloody baneblades cost more than my actual car here. Hey my car was cheap sure. But seriously.... it wouldn't be so bad if I didnt want it this much.

[@thenocguesswho]

Iv always wanted to convert one to traitor ... Quake cannon needs some love !!! Come on it fires exterminatus ffs

[@Markos2007]

Woo can't wait for my shadowsword's titan-killing weapon of apocalyptic might to bounce harmlessly off of some fucking sparkly clown bois.

[@rock_ok]

heavy tanks should have void shield generator