So... What's the Deal With Drama Queen?

[@randerson_]

If the aliens are meant to represent the rich it is probably just as horrendous as a story except the author can excuse himself of racism maybe? The rich and powerful of society are not a solitary race, they were not handed their caste from altruism and live amongst the working class. Inevitably this manga will result in a message of “Desperate circumstances lead to desperate action, oppressors should not oppress in society or else bad things will happen, watch Joker: Folie à Deux.” I would love it if this story was about class dynamics instead of weird fascist shit! I don’t believe in an eventual plot reversal of “the MCs were crazy and weird and bad and unreliable narrators” either, because what does that then say about the entire first portion of your story? Well, at almost every turn the violence and xenophobia is meant to be justified, but do not engage with the ideas and characters placed in front of you or you have failed morally. You should have known better not because the story led you to wonder what is right, but because you should have known beforehand. Well, it should be obvious that the main characters are bad, but then why make this story other than to..rugpull hitlerites who read Shonen Jump? Stories are rarely written from the perspective of an unrepentant nazi or racist murderer while the reader is provided minimal subtext to think something is wrong with their convictions. Compare this manga’s beginning to the start of Attack on Titan, American History X, even Jojo Rabbit. I’m sorry mangaka of Drama Queen but I don’t have faith in you to turn this into something revolutionary, I don’t think stories are given a structure like that for a reason, and the reason is that it would be bad.

[@WeedgokuBonerhitler]

I was basically going to post something similar to this. In this story we aren't really shown any other characters being oppressed by the aliens so far, and the one assassination contract we're shown was by a human who ran the same scam as the alien they were contracted to kill. So the problem with the anti-capitalist/anti-rich read on this series runs right back into the same problem as the "it's racist!" read does: the only characters portrayed as being in the wrong are the aliens. There are still humans who thrive under the system who aren't portrayed as being wrong, and absolutely nowhere near to the same degree as the aliens are. The characters are upset that a different race of people are at the top, essentially and yearn for a time when their race was at the top instead, and don't actually give a shit about fixing the problems in their life which wouldn't measurably change whether or not it's aliens or humans punching them in the face.

[@JacF6734]

"I would love it if this story was about class dynamics instead of weird fascist shit" So basically, the only reason you're upset is that the story is spreading the wrong *kind* of propaganda

[@mimiyori]

@@JacF6734 yes, fascism is wrong. what is your point?

[@JacF6734]

@@mimiyori My point is you're both hypocrites whose definition of "fighting fascism" probably means banning people who don't like Joe Biden on Reddit

[@awildwildwes]

If you really pay attention, there are a lot of moments where the characters were portrayed as horrible. In fact, YOU DON'T need to pay that much attention, is fairly noticeable, that shouldn't be brought into question just because they have justifications for them selves. Following the perspective of an evil character is gonna do it, is kind of a given. I think there's room in the story to have it both ways. It could have a lot of aliens who are bad and even give credence to the conspiracy theory, being orchestrated by the aliens on top. But also have good ones, innocent ones. It already happened! What the fuck did those 5 aliens from ch 2 do to anyone? lost their license? They didn't do anything, but they died because of their race or species. You can have the characters fighting against a corrupt group of aliens while also being evil them selves. Cus at the end of the day, they are racist. Whatever the case is, I SINCERELY hope this keeps going, cus I'm entertained, and let's be real, this is NOT hurting anyone. Alien Lives Don't Matter, they're not amongst us. lol

[@Yamikani]

being African and seeing all major chains or stores being owned by people that aren't from your country made me view the manga differently. I was still aware that people would probably view it as a weird racist story. I don't agree with the message of kill the invaders of your country and all that. I also know Japan isn't a developing country so the mangaka probably would not write about neocolonialism and how it looks in the modern day. Also the whole "they get special treatment" line reminded me of a corruption case where foreigners could set up and run businesses without needing to pay as much as they were meant to by bribing politicians. again no violence against foreigners just want to make clear. (dont check my freezer)

[@Jasi-Mori]

Im in Afro-Asian solidarity with you

[@GrimUndead94]

Yeah. I've seen documentaries featuring African villages living jobless right under the river-polluting factory packed only with foreigners. It sounds like a satire, but it's not.

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

lol theyre not "foreigners" theyre alien invaders who likely staged a disaster in order to rule over them

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

also what doess being african have to do with that? most stores in Africa are owned by africans

[@makito106]

This manga is crazy so I'm going to kept reading until it's canceled. I think the main characters are supposed to be over reacting since the manga is called Drama Queen.

[@vly9916]

THIS MAKE SENSE because it's called drama queen for a reason

[@awildwildwes]

Who knows, maybe it gets finish! fingers crossed

[@acidmoss1492]

That's exactly what I was thinking too and I found it strange that she didn't comment on the video.

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

it's awesome and the main characters are hilarious while also being relatable if you actually think about the context of their situation

[@lynvenve]

why has no one thought that the aliens could be seen as colonizers EDIT: many of you guys aren't realising that I'm not saying they are or aren't I'm just saying that they COULD be seen as colonizers depending on the interpretation and how to story progresses (it could also be talking about how the US military coming in and fucking up the place)

[@Lucky-Claw]

Colonizing Japan? Like a commentary on Japans history of colonization?

[@Spinningfellas]

it was literally my first thought when i read this book! i agree!

[@KangarooCourt-n8i]

​@@Lucky-Claw Or Japan's history of being colonized

[@Noella1]

this was my first thought when i started reading it too

[@sassy_sasarai4090]

Because Rorschach Test reasons.

[@SammyRobinson62232]

The most annoying thing about the manga is how it exposes how a lot of anime fan like to infantilize Japan. Let me explain. A lot of anime fans sees Japan as a place where there isn’t no politics at all. Which mean there’s no politics in anime/manga Which makes no sense as just like any country. Japan has a history of having a side of conservative and progressive. Been discriminated against and discriminate other people. TLDR: Stop acting like Japan is this magical utopia where it’s just big titty wifue. Just like other countries- it is own country with a long complex history. Sorry if that doesn’t make any sense.

[@michaelhappy-x2p]

im a anime fan and even i now that japan hase politics and isnt a 1to1 of anime buth its the weebs that are just stuppid to a hole new level like no a hot girl is not gonne date a loser like jou

[@IsabellaMathew]

I get. Anime fans will ignore anything fuck up Japan did. Like the night of Nanking.

[@IsabellaMathew]

I get it. Because how anime fans ignore what happen too Nanking. Doesn’t help government ignores it too.

[@d3bugged]

You type a lot of total BS.

[@BloomBlanche]

​@@d3bugged What exactly is BS about this?? I'm genuinely curious... what are the things you disagree on?

[@jackofaces107]

Tbh the main vibe the aliens gave me were colonizers more than anything. A group suddenly showing up and taking over a land that didn’t originally belong to them, and rather than living alongside equally, change the way society works there to have it completely revolve around and they’re at the top, while not really caring for the natives. And while it’s just one example, we know there are at least some element of things like segregation in this world, like with the apartment complex only for Aliens, that seemed to be built just for them. This doesn’t justify what the main characters do, I don’t think the perception so many have about them just being foreign immigrants is right. The anti rich one to a lesser extent because the more I’ve thought about it if that is meaning, the more I realized that “eating the rich” is being taken very literally.

[@mossystone584]

id love if that was the case, but being jewish I keep seeing things that look like right wing dogwhistles, like the "Partners" line

[@mrskatty9747]

That's not the case tho

[@cryosen]

Having heard people claim immigrants get "special privileges" many times from hardline anti immigration people, to me it really just came off like the author using that far right talking point and making it actually true in their text. The whole thing read like great replacement theory rhetoric repackaged with aliens.

[@TheSpeedPlays]

Reading the first chapter, I can understand the anti-immigrant sentiment being come across, because the dialogue certainly gives that off. But, I get the sense the author was for an anti-american influence specifically. When Nomamoto says she guesses she likes the technology that came from the aliens, that is a very common historical analysis of Japan post-WWII. I think what locks this in though is Kitami's backstory of an alien doing a hit and run and killing his family in the process. Last year, there was a case of an american serviceman in okinawa that hit a japanese citizen on a public road. Granted, that serviceman was prosecuted by the american military, I can imagine there would be sentiment among japanese citizens that the serviceman should be prosecuted by the japanese court. Maybe that was the mangaka's intention, but with the rest of the chapters out, maybe that still is the underlying message but the main characters just haven't gotten to that point yet. Kitami's comment in chapter 5 of being "invaded" and he "loves this city" reads to me like someone who does have legitimate class grievances but doesn't have the class consciousness to make that realization. I agree this story is much better read in the leans of the poor eating the rich as it stands though. There are only 5 chapters out through so the story basically hasn't started, so this really can go anywhere, especially with how the main characters are presenting their problems. I still stand that I don't think this is a general anti-immigrant sentiment underlying though.

[@fssamiel1156]

The colonialism thing came straight to my mind, as to certain a degree the setting reminds me of gintama

[@crudlucasconsigliere4084]

I agree, that's how it came off to me as well.

[@berniekatzroy]

Hey I'm enjoying it and I don't blame Japan for being hostile towards foreigners and illegals.

[@Jasi-Mori]

Hayao Miyazaki (Father of Studio Ghibli) also anti War and anti American, and reasonably so for he grew up in America-occupied Japan, Korean War and the Vietnam War. It shows in his work clearly. I don't know why people make a fuss about this manga

[@berniekatzroy]

@Jasi-Mori me either

[@alejandrapadiernatem4679]

The 4 points of view I've seen so far: •It's a xenophobic manga •It's about xenophobia but in a "following the villain" type of way •It's not about xenophobia, but the author is bad at portraying that •It's about colonialism

[@Jasi-Mori]

It is clearly about colonialism and capitalism! People denying it and calling it a nazi manga is only feeding to that machine they think they are against. Saying this as an Southeast Asian

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

why cant people just enjoy the story instead of trying to give it some arbitrary political label

[@ovgem]

​@@VashTheDamnFiendall stories can be interpreted as political and an author's bias can seep into a story. idk anything about this story but thats just the nature of literature

[@obsessivelooter3573]

IDK it could be a very bad anti-rich message but to me, it resembles The Turner Diaries in the way that the powerful are a certain ethnicity and how a normal person would recognize that the MC is a crazy idiot with a nonsense mission with some anti-immigrant stuff tossed in there I'd prefer to be wrong and that we're not getting the picture-book Turner Diaries

[@Solinaru]

This was honestly the first thing that came to mind as well. :( This is the first time I've ever heard of Drama Queen and yet many of the plot beats are like, "wait... I know I've seen this before". I'm willing to wait to see how it unfolds but it seems like this plane is not going to land were people are hoping it will.

[@RomanceRoach]

It can probably be a Death Note/AOT type a story. A main character who starts off with good intentions to “save their home & stop their enemies” but in reality they’re just an angry nutjob who takes it to the extreme. It all depends on whether the author critiques the two main characters as the series goes on

[@Nightmare704RY]

I take offense in you saying that Kira had any good intentions, he was saying stuff about "becoming the god of the new world" since chapter 3 of the anime, outside that, I think you're right.

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

lol imagine thinking AOT and Death Note have anything in common that isn't extremely (and I mean extremely) surface level., Eren and Light's motivations arent even close to the same lol.

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

@@Nightmare704RY this person comparing Light to Eren shows they didn't understand either story

[@aqualucasYT]

It's a marketing ploy Jump is notorious for axing series before they have room to blossom, so manga now have to come out of the gate running to avoid getting cut, see Kagura Bacchi and Dan Da Dan. I do find it insidious that this series is using anti-immigration talking points in a shonen (young boys) magazine rather than a seinen one, where the reader base might have wiser reading levels to not just take the protagonists xenophobia at face value. However in isolation it's pretty funny in a "South Park" kind of way and I'm willing to hold my thoughts until more chapters come out.

[@edef1244]

You're fr smart

[@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028]

​@@edef1244 brother he's not smart he just has common fucking sense

[@flyingorange2482]

I mean, shonen manga that are not made for a young audience definetly exist, take Fire Punch for example

[@siginotmylastname3969]

Isn't it jump plus? I mean this is geared towards young adults/very old teenagers it's NOT for actual boys in the kid sense. Dandadan was in it too, none of this is weekly jump which is for younger teenagers and kids.

[@a_rat_named_mouse]

I mean... Japan is and always has been EXTREMELY racist and xenophobic. But, suddenly because it's in a popular manga, it's a total shock? Pfft.

[@azaraniichan]

I'm not sure the idea it's a class analogy works considering their special privilege is based on race and that the depictions or concerns of the characters don't involve rich humans. If the aliens disappeared, the class system would stay the same but there wouldn't be a group that has social privileges based directly on their race. I'm ready to bet the author isn't necessarily expressively racist, but it seems pretty obvious to me that the story mimics the kind of fascist theory of the great replacement, where immigrants are slowly overtaking a country's population by acquiring special privileges while trying to neutralize the culture and population of that nation. The aliens are at most neutral in their depiction if they're not violent or rude, with their ridiculous appearance, so they probably work as a place holder for an invading force where the protagonists can have a reason to kill without seeming like the most massive psychopaths but it plays into the symbols and language of far right ideology, as do other works out there that weren't created as propaganda

[@_MoiMoi]

Thats what im thinking!!

[@sabersin5368-c2c]

So basically South African history.

[@Snormite]

That's because the story is about neo-colonialism.

[@azaraniichan]

@@Snormite Neo-colonialism doesn't usually entail having a mass population move into your country I'd say. If you look at a country like the Ivory Coast, neo-colonialism is present there in that foreign companies are exploiting the resources and labor of people in that country through private investments and by manipulating local politics, to move capital outside of that country. You don't have a large bunch of Americans or Europeans working for Mars or Nestlé moving there. Also there's not a lot of things that seem to reference the specific conditions of neo-colonialism, especially regarding how Japan contributes to that condition (at least as far as I can see)

[@maxchen8966]

I disagree with the "Aliens represent capitalists" idea. The origin of aliens coming from another place sounds more xenophobic, if it wanted themes of capitalism it would've been like... Aliens were humans that got super-rich and evolved or something.

[@sassy_sasarai4090]

I'm just trying to look at it from a different culture's perspective or something. The way that the aliens are portrayed seems similar to how the Japan stand-in is portrayed relative to the South Korea stand-in in Ranking of Kings. Ranking of Kings is totally unironic about treating the colonizer stand-in positively. I can't tell what Drama Queen is doing.

[@ITR]

If they were human, I feel like the eating angle wouldn't go over as well. So them being aliens works better for that IMO.

[@turntechunderground3144]

it could be a metaphor for how the elite live in a completely different setting from us. like “they live in a completely different world” but literally

[@turntechunderground3144]

i’ve not read this though so take it with a grain of salt. idk, that’s what i thought of

[@pomefio]

I don't think they meant to come off as xenophobic, or against foreigners/immigration, but the way the aliens are being written and how the mc sees them can easily be misunderstood, and can represent something entirely different. It feels bigoted, but almost by accident.

[@handsomeboi3767]

It’s both. The aliens represent foreigners but they are also an entirely different thing as well away from the political commentary.

[@pomefio]

@@handsomeboi3767 that's where it fails, though. It might very well be a political commentary, but it's also a distasteful one.

[@skippy9273]

This series is a dark comedy. To me it's pretty clear that there aren't supposed to be any good people or people to root for.

[@mimiyori]

that would be interesting, too bad it's a very unfunny read

[@skippy9273]

@mimiyori well it's advertised as a comedy so that seems to be the intent

[@JacF6734]

@@mimiyori “Nope, you are nitpicking and biased, I win, bye bye” ass response

[@LionSnob]

​@@mimiyori you were busy trying to wrap your head around the political nonsense instead of simply enjoying the ride, that's why

[@gleful262]

I dont feel like anyone cam tell 5 chapters in, so lets give it another 10 atleast to feel the vibe

[@blaufrosche870]

The thing weird with the serie is that it's tagline seems to be "hate brings pain to the world" (they use it in promotional banner on the manga plus site and it's the first line of the synopsis on the site) That's so confusing with the little info on the situation dropped by the character (that could be unreliable narrators , at least I hope...) The worst being that even if the manga turns out to be trying to denonciate racism and discrimination, many social outrage grifter or trolls are filling the reader comments by saying bad dogwhistle like "I hope they kill all of the aliens" ( comment I have seen). I am almost afraid of how much some people would want the story to be about killing the aliens and are almost proud to say it...

[@runajain5773]

Because it present even the whole manga controversy called it racist so obviously soem anti and pro racist will come and there will be discussion create in manga and mangak aware so he try to bait those racist people to see how hate bring choas and it bad and even explored how racism born so those anti racist people how hatred is born and in context in manga magzine little cruel toward toward mangaka like if they publish one or two chapters and it does not revenue or little bit popular they will cancelled that reason some mangaka try some new way to get attention in manga it could bizzare art style like karugabaki or some wried protagonist like denji who from chainsaw man he just want sax ,dandadan mc okarun some ghost and alien want his ball ,mashle mc what if one punch man harry potter have child , beserk mc gut having sax with demon in beginning of chapter one and more and mangaka create to present classism and racism and hatred but people will give attention if our mc is racist and female actually eat immigrants people he basically doing experiments to see if will become popular in japan or english reader now he succeeded now he does not care what reader as much there is any discussion still exist he peaceful expand story so those reader will understand what he try to present

[@pinksoda8702]

finding a really nice artstyle channel with a super well made doc was one thing. but the outro being pururin from nhk is so goated def subscribed

[@Orako]

this plot is WIIIIILD, im probably gonna keep up with it solely to see how off the rails it goes- which could be the point, it could just all be a marketing thing. its entirely going to hinge on whether or not these characters get critiqued, end up as outcasts, etc. if its solely an "eat the rich" metaphor like how the vid describes, i think that by making the aliens a specific race, it's WAY too easy to substitute the metaphor for a race/foreigner one. don't even think media literacy could be an argument there, if the mcs end up being framed as justified any metaphor has flopped. if it were up to me, this plot should go the route of showing how the mcs are directing their anger at the wrong sources, bc its not a specific race or type of people thats creating poverty, and directing your anger at your peers and neighbors rather than actual oppressors, like the companies that choose to pay you unlivable wages, or a broken justice system, will always lead you nowhere or worse. i think it's reasonably possible it could swing that way, but we've already seen them both say they're fine being in it just for the love of the game, so im not entirely sure, again it's gonna hinge on if the mcs get framed as justified or not. either way, as everyone has already said, it's an utter train wreck you cant look away from

[@purerandomnessfan]

Ignoring... ALL the politics, I just wanna say how good the art is omg

[@tuumef1799]

I feel this is one of those cases where we need to wait and see. Everything is so ambiguous that it can mean one thing or another until proper confirmation. Now there are some legitimate grievances concerning the state of the story's Japan, our protagonists are clearly bad people whose actions are quite disproportionate to said grievances. Even their memories are subject to scrutiny because of the inherent bias. Buy I am having fun, so I'll keep reading. Thanks for the video!

[@lahnhedberg3403]

Think the general yucky feeling comes with how we don't know the author intent. Like do they think the MC is doing the right or it something that should happen even if it wrong? It a big disconnect

[@shaybbutegged]

Honestly I been keeping up with the series just to see how bad it gets but lk the vibe I get is that it *is* about xenophobia to a degree but it gives the vibe that it’s showing how absurd that mindset is. The way Nomamoto and the other one are presented make me think this is one of the stories where you’re following the villains/monsters, especially so for the guy (I don’t feel like remembering his name) cuz his backstory and reason for hating aliens genuinely feels like a ‘tragic’ villain backstory…and nomamoto is just insane good for her. Plus the fact that all the aliens so far do bad things that could or explicitly are being done by humans (ex: their first target huntaway) or in the case of black hair’s victims after chapter 1, didn’t do anything at all, I just get the vibe the manga is going to show how absurd xenophobia is over the course of the series, or at least make it clear the protags are the villains of the story. Even more so considering there’s another manga in Jump+ that also has elements of xenophobia but explicitly in the antagonists so far and certain things in drama queen are almost mirrored in that manga but in a much more obviously negative light (the manga is ‘Yattara’ btw it’s extremely good so far so I recommend it) I could be completely wrong tho maybe it is just promoting xenophobia or ur right and it is about eating the rich guess we’ll see

[@ilngsisfh]

you cannot figure this managaka out by past manga cause their most famous work before this was a untranslated AWARD WINNING YURI one shot. and every manga has been different- like theres a giant chance they choose to make it racist for controversy clicks

[@fz_dracohart1255]

I'm sorry but AWARD WINNING YURI? Cine on man give me the title I'm very hungry for good yuri reads

[@aq2242]

1:05 Quick correction on Drama Queen getting a lot of eyes on it because it's a shonen jump property. Drama Queen is in jump+, not the main physical magazine, jump+ has so many more manga that fly completely under the radar than even the smallest titles of the main magazine. It's incorrect to say being a jump property got Drama Queen significant attention when the magazine it runs in is so much smaller, the controversy is by far the main reason how so many people learned of it, being jump is almost inconsequential compared to that

[@sassy_sasarai4090]

There's a normal human black guy on page 8 of the first chapter so I assumed it was a critique of the rich rather than foreigners, but the people in the comments section of this series going "TND, TND" creeped me out too much to keep reading. Dropped at chapter 3.

[@KhayJayArt]

What does TND mean?

[@sassy_sasarai4090]

@@KhayJayArt I thought I replied to you but I think YT censored the comment? Or at least it's not appearing for me. That's a knot sea catchphrase.

[@Raaaah__]

@@KhayJayArt total (slur) death, it’s just a phrase advocating for the mass death of minority groups (replace the N with a T, J, or whatever other slur you can think of)

[@JacF6734]

I’m sorry but this is like deciding to die of dehydration because you saw a Nazi drinking water

[@redlily2893]

@@KhayJayArt It means "total [n word] death."

[@SleeplessBrazilLimbo]

tbh last semester i had to research a lot about puerto rico and it's relation with usa. it's the first thing that popped into my mind, it's crazy and a bit scary how many similarities it holds. i feel the "eating debate" if you could call it that, is ridiculous since yeah, you have two sociopaths and you expect them to be heroes? these type of stories about colonization and the class disparity caused by it are gruesome, and drama queen isnt even THAT bad. i had to analize "amalia" by rosario ferre and that sure is, worse than just some canibalisim, hate and violence

[@M00N133star]

I would agree with this and maybe I will once the manga’s finished but as it stands it’s the fact that a whole ass human is doing the same shit the alien is yet they could care less what the human does. The fact they are an alien is the only driving force for killing em, so as much as I want money and class inequality to be the reason for the characters hate it’s looking like a stretch. It feels like an excuse for the characters to justify their actions. With the obvious fact that japan still refuses to recognize anyone who doesn’t look Japanese (including the ones born and raised there) as Japanese also makes this manga fishy. Until they acknowledge the obvious imbalance of hate in this manga I can’t agree with what it’s doing. There’s just too much focus on the aliens and how bad the aliens are that the “message” of eat the rich is completely lost. The only way I can see this manga not being xenophobic is if it shows the flaws in the characters logic. Show me a nice alien and an evil human show me this isn’t just about hating/killing another race. There is always gonna be someone or something trying to take from others so blaming a whole ass race just doesn’t seem logical. Like what happens when you do kill every alien? The world magically goes back to normal? No you still have whole ass humans running the same schemes these aliens you hate so much are doing. It’s not gonna stop just because you kill all/few aliens. The logic ain’t logicing. And if someone tries to say “the characters are fucked up so duh” and? How does that justify killing a whole race? Like bro let’s be real with ourselves until we get over the speech “I hate aliens” all it sounds like to me is “I hate *insert race here*”. If the language was more natural like “I hate the rich” or “I hate the police” that would make more sense. Anyways yeah this whole manga just puts me off and I honestly hope it’s not gonna continue with this “let’s kill all aliens” vibe.

[@fernreturn]

yeah i thought you were spot on with it until chapter 5 lmaoo

[@siginotmylastname3969]

One thing noone shows which I read when trying to ignore discourse from people who all sound kind of ridiculous to me(as someone who loves writing biased povs which in good writing should be EVERY pov) is the end panel of chapter 1. They talk about how aliens ruined their planet and about all their hatred, play around making and kicking sand aliens, and it shows a huge panel of the beautiful scenery zoomed out with Nomimoto saying she never realised how much fun it was being miserable. Literally "being miserable" over a huge spread of the beautiful beach scene. I'm pretty sure the takeaway is they can't appreciate what they have is beautiful because they're full of hate. Like it is not a question who it sides with if you actually read and write at all. The framing is against them ffs. However I'm not interested in the story, I don't like the current trend in lightning speed pacing because that's where this sort of ambiguity is allowed to come from anyway. If it didn't need to hook people quick we could spend longer watching her and Kitami's perspectives clash with the framing of a beautiful Japan and aliens trying to fit into a culture just like anyone else. That doesn't need to be serious either and can have jokes in it while we wait, so the humour feels less sort of depressing I guess when it's the cannibal stuff? I don't think there's anything in there wrongly promoting xenophobia as it's framed as them being completely detached from reality, but this sort of pacing and clickbait the magazine has a lot of itself hampers any interesting stories. It reduces what people think this could lead into to 1) a story about defending xenophobia in a surreal setting, 2) a story about how xenophobia is bad and we eventually watch the alien eating girl get redeemed and forgiven by aliens for murdering them, or 3) a story about how xenophobia is bad and how bigots are delusional monsters whose actions you look forward to leading to their painful deaths. When you could have an actual nuanced story from everything it's given us? How about a fourth one suggested by me now: 4) A story about two irredeemable murderers whose perspective was horrible and hid the beauty of their world from them, as they start siding with other alien killing humans, maybe eventually coming to face those aliens they saw as colonisers being driven to their planet because they were already some sort of refugees from other alien species, who are now going to use the species Nomimoto learned to hate to distract humans as they cause all the pollution people are complaining about. Meanwhile some of the aliens start to coexist better and learn the perspectives of other Japanese people who weren't all speciesist against them but did think they intruded and didn't recognise how their technological superiority and other treatment came off as a privilege. The aliens and other Japanese people learn to connect with each other more throughout the series, while Nomimoto and Kitami's perspectives take them to the heart of others turning them against each other as their casual murder(without even the ridiculous reasons Nomimoto treats as making her better like actually caring about Japan, not liking the skyline, missing eating meat etc) slowly make them hate the killing but leave them with no other allies, at which point they end up as rogue elements maybe killing and eating the ones who were killing the aliens? For some weirdness maybe Nomimoto was actually part another species which is predatory towards the refugee aliens at the start who are turning them against humans and also work with other humans like Kitami, but of course without playing into defining the groups as acting out of biological determinism or whatever - I just think it'd be kind of fitting. Anyway they don't get redeemed but they end up playing an important role in improving things for everyone which couldn't happen without the third group in the plot making contact with some irredeemable bigoted murderers who have just made themselves outcasts from both humans and the starting aliens. Also it's not a bad xenophobia analogy because two things can both be true: Japanese people have a big problem with rising xenophobia, a lot of which is whipped up by actually privileged white westerners immigrating from the US who have no idea how much they fucked up the economy and how complex Japan's feelings on westernisation in the meiji era etc are before making judgements of them and refusing to learn the culture. When it's from Japanese people and not Americans, even coming from the ethnic majority complaining about immigrants CAN punch up since some of the immigration is part of imperialism against them. Is it xenophobic for a Thai person to complain about foreigners coming over and harassing girls everywhere? Still not if it's in the context of sex tourism which westerners have done a huge amount of harm with, even though those same words would be very xenophobic in the context of Germany for example. Is it xenophobic when Nomimoto complains about aliens making her job bad and calling them partners in interspecies couples, not learning the language? YES, because that's the damned point, whatever actual problems there are with the alien's presence and privileges doesn't matter because her pov shows she's ignoring valid issues and focusing on those which let her be hateful and isolated. They let her be an edgelord who "can't say anything" and is the black sheep who has the "courage" to say what everybody is thinking, supposedly. Lots of bigotry is like that and if the story treats it right it might be a great plot.

[@meatshoujo]

I wanna see other peoples' opinions and give my perspective. I agree it's confusing cause it seems like parts of it could maybe be sending some kind of message (whether it's a good or bad one lol) and I thought maybe it had inspiration from some of the rude foreigners we've seen in recent years going to Japan only to be rude and disrespectful. Although I'll admit it's kind of hard to tell at this point if we're suppose to be shown that yes, while what Kitami and Nomamoto have gone through sucks and we can at least emphasize why it made them the way they are, that it doesn't justify their still unfair, biased views on aliens but at least shows us WHY they think this way, or if the author goes the bad route of saying that they're 100% justified for their actions and they get their "happy ending", but at this point with only 5 chapters it's hard to tell. I totally get why people think of it being racist but I think I'll at least see where the manga heads 😭

[@user-nm9yd4wq4s]

this media/content is so literate

[@RaidenTheWild]

Unfortunately, conflating class struggles with race is a common right-wing tactic, so even if the mangaka wanted to make a class allegory (they're literally eating the rich), they aren't beating the allegations by representing wealthy people as an alien race. Now, if that conflation is what they want to deconstruct, then I could see what they're going for, but I think they'll have quite the challenge pulling it off with this setup.

[@OfficialModZero]

This is what I'd be pleasantly surprised by as the setup seems to be there for a subversion/deconstruction of xenophobia, like with the mangaka never showing Nomamoto actually being hit by the aliens before her nose bleeds which lends credence to her being an "unreliable narrator". Including how that conflation can be exploited for profit/political gain by bad actors. But expecting/having that level of discussion to occur in a shonen instead of seinin seems like a recipe for rampant controversy and grief for the author if that is their aim. And theres a strong chance the author may just be stumbling into this by accident, but it really is too early to tell. However, the comments on mangaplus are just WILD and bringing in some of the most edgy reactionaries atm.

[@LaurentIpsum]

Thank you for the thoughtful analysis! I wanna see more people cover it as I find the discussion being hehe fascinating. I hope to see more in the future. I can't tell where it's going and personally I find that exciting. Hope to see more soon from you!

[@Bala_Niranna]

I read chapter one and was like "wtf is this its so off-putting and unlikable". Then chapter 2 came out and i was like "ooooohhh, theyre MEANT to be freaks."

[@poposao1]

Even in the most charitable angle, this is still a pretty bad story/analogy. I don’t think this story has any legs unless it rallies a supportive crowd (likely racists) or maybe a big twist. But even then if it keeps stirring controversy it’ll likely just be taken off by Jump. Mind you there are plenty of racist authors and works out there, the amount of people online that act like Japan is some apolitical haven worries me a lot. Especially since xenophobia is a recurring theme on Japanese politics (even if younger people are generally very receptive)

[@mgsgamer8340]

can u pls reply to this comment so i can mute u for this dummy take 😍

[@vincentmokujin8117]

Wait! You can do that?! How?!! Please, teach me! ​@@mgsgamer8340

[@danielzakgaim2764]

"As an outsider, you are actively supporting one of the most xenophobic cultures on Earth" -Filthy Frank, 2016

[@Average_.AceAttorneyFan]

​@@mgsgamer8340 You can just say why you feel like this person is wrong in one comment insted of being cringe first as if it would help in some way. Nobody is going to die just bc you argue about this take right now without having the person to reply to you first yk...

[@mgsgamer8340]

@@Average_.AceAttorneyFan girl... u just gave me the leverage to block u

[@DenajM25]

as i read it, i took it more as europeans colonising the rest of the worldю idk how other people didnt think the same way and sidenote, i myself am an immigrant from a poor european country who went to germany. also the charity guy is basicallz mr beast lets be honest

[@Thundersz]

It’s actually crazy I found out about you through asterios, congrats on the success

[@GojGoiOi]

it took me awhile but this Manga is basically just the quote "Eat the rich".

[@Lazy_Spade]

Personally I’m not sure there’s meant to be a message. I also don’t necessarily think it’s xenophobic. I think it’s about people who need something to blame for there problems. Because looking at it Kitami looked like he was the one behind the wheel.

[@vokkagirl]

charlie and lola ahh background music (this is a compliment of the highest order)

[@LionSnob]

The story is about 2 villain protagonists killing people for selfish reasons. There's no real political message, the alien shit is just ranch dressing

[@friederem]

I read the available chapters and it gave rancid vibes, hope I'm just paranoid.

[@sosochi2149]

I don’t think either interpretation is correct. I think it’s just a bad alien invasion story.

[@bluespark777]

I've always thought Kitami is like actually racist and would become like the main villain of the series

[@ChannalOfMarlon]

I feel like its truly irrelevant whether the author is actually intending to write rightwing propaganda. In terms of the text, the main characters are just straight-up racist/xenophobic, and so far it seems like we're just asked to sympathize with them, at least to the point of finding their actions amusing and not being horrified. Thinking this is gonna be some kinda 5head reveal where the entire initial premise and framing of the story and characters are reversed and the author says "haha werent you silly for thinking I was racist" seems like an incredible reach to me. And even if the author did do that, again, there's nothing really in the actual text here to suggest that such a twist is coming, the racist violence is presented at face value as at worst an extreme reaction to a prejudice that the story considers true: aliens are an incursion who get undeserved special treatment and are therefore causing damage to the city as a species by living there. That is textbook xenophobic/racist rhetoric. So if you suddenly reveal "oh actually that was wrong", you still wrote that, straightfaced, with no hints towards the contrary, so its not the own you think it is. Anyways, I dont think this manga is worth investing more time in past this point. Its racist at worst and bad, unskilled satire at best.

[@runajain5773]

Only 5 chapter it better to wait to develop it beter to check manga 20 to 30 chapter so we get what mangaka try to present

[@handsomeboi3767]

Good finally someone who gets it. The aliens are obviously a metaphor or some kind of commentary on foreigners particularly Americans but they are also their own thing. I hope more people see this so they can just stay away from it and not bitch about it on twitter. This is probably the one of the few manga that leftists can’t infiltrate and subvert so it’s a self gate keeping while real fans can enjoy it.

[@senfood]

This manga would have been the hottest new title if it had replaced aliens with rich human beings. The series won't escape the rasiam allegations until it proves that it's not the creator having fallen into the same fascist trap of confusing class issues for race issues.

[@JacF6734]

>Mfw the mangaka makes it political by bringing up immigration in my wholesome "eat the rich" fantasy series 😔

[@huntforbigfloptober1333]

Isn’t this just another story where the protagonists are just awful people? Like seriously those two are dicks and we’re not necessarily supposed to agree with them but we might see why they think the way they do… even if it’s wrong. We only see their perspective so we don’t see how everyone does. Maybe the rest of society legitimately enjoys having the aliens around. It’s just that we’re following these horrible people on the outside. Not every narrative follows good people you should root for. Sometimes you want to see them fail because that’s the story.

[@trika91]

I hope you’re ready right. Right now it’s up in the air the direction of the narrative will go. Hopefully the author will make it clear that the two leads are actually the villains, but so far everything has been kept so ambiguous that I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s revealed that (generically) the leads were “right all along” and their villainous actions were justified.

[@demoniclemonade]

8:39 okay how big is this girls stomach 😭😭 how is she eating like 4 alien women

[@greatwave2480]

Yeah, it did feel like a chainsaw man knock off vibes-wise. Like the author wanted so bad to make something cool and edgy but didn't think about the actual message or plot, just picking and choosing stuff they like, like a poor shark-toothed simple minded morally ambiguous protag who's willing to eat anything and everything and their seemingly more sane (not really) friend. To me this is just a yet another edgy fodder for (Japanese) teenagers.

[@iseemtobelost]

I’ve personally gotten to chapter 4 and decided to put it away for now; I want to see which direction the story will go in before I keep reading. the comments on mangaplus as of now make me a bit uncomfortable too. Maybe Drama Queen is anticapitalist/anticolonialist, but just handled clumsily or there’s a twist coming, in which case I might be back. Maybe it is racist, and I’ll stay away. Or it really is just about a bunch of a-holes, which is totally fine, but just not for me. Regardless of which it is, I don’t think we’ve seen enough yet. I also wonder if maybe the point is to bring in the really racist readers and then try to impart some sort of lesson. Still a super risky move and not one likely to work imo

[@aliaghtedare2466]

hell yeah, i love this manga

[@NightSentinel51]

Being infamous is still famous. And money is money no matter how it's made. It's up to the customers to determine if it's right or not.

[@Solinaru]

This is the first time I've heard of Drama Queen, but the vibe I'm getting is the same like when you're on a bus that makes an unexpected turn. You know that there's some time before your stop comes up and there's a possibility of a detour or an extra stop you didn't account for. Yet minute by minute as the bus keeps going off the route, you're starting to question if this is the correct bus and how to make it to your destination if you escape now. The plot of the story has some interesting ingredients, but by chapter 3 it seems like the story is cooked and hard to save as this point. Others have pointed out about the possible US occupation connections leading to this class of "aliens" with protected statuses, and it feels like that might be one of the few ways to save this story. Unfortunately, the inclusion of anti-immigrant tropes is making it difficult to believe this bus is going to arrive at the correct stop, and instead somehow manage to just recreate the turner diaries at the end.

[@zacpilled]

unbelievable that we're getting a fkn Drama Queen video before Kagurabachi. Do better.

[@mymindbecomesacomicworld9969]

I agree with quite a lot what you said in the video. but to mention some stuff like to address or at least how see it. I do see this manga mention some irl political problems I have seen, but I don’t wanna cause a whole fight about in the comment section because knowing just arguing about it ain't gonna get us anywhere. so I’ll just tackle what is mentioned in the manga. So I agree that these mc’s might be mentally ill especially with the male mc because what he experience was a traumatic situation that left him scared miss placing his anger in the wrong direction. I think personally he’s probably the most reasonable character to be upset. An alien, who was drunk driving crashes into a family killing three of them and just drives, and even after the cops get involved they let this alien slide with no consequences of his actions. Now we don’t know the alien perspective on how if he was really guilty or not for what he done or not probably wont be answered in a while. But clearly by the male mc perspective this alien, who committed a crime that resulted in his families death gets away scot free because how political and societal figures do not wanna cause problems or paint a bad picture of the aliens after doing so much for earthlings. But it exposes this unfair treatment on how can we treat these aliens as individuals if they're very clearly taking advantage of their position such as getting away with crimes and who knows how many crimes that were swept under the rug. But it shows that we are also no better too as humans has done the same things getting away with statues or taking advantage of certain circumstances. now im not gonna get deeper into this whole political side of it. But I thought it was good to mention more about the male mc and how this world and their society has failed one of their own people possibly creating a monster. But in the other hand we don’t know about the aliens but since their so far seen as individuals, but seeing how scummy some of them are being completely aware of the laws and morals of the country they are in. Now like I said before we have little information about these alien if they came from a culture like this or maybe the aliens that were looking for a new home was bc their were kicked out of their own planet for being scummy. who knows we don’t know and thats why im not freaking out about this bc every writer has the right to write a story for everyone to read their its made for political reason or maybe just plain fun and theirs no meaning behind it.

[@GhoulCityOffline]

I clapped when I heard LimeJinj0

[@zoebrennan799]

What I found strange was how you never see the aliens hit the girl. She just always has the nose bleed. And I'm thinking, maybe she's a monster, an alien that eats these aliens or she has some sort of brain damage that's causing the bleeding I don't know. I like it

[@gummywormee41]

In the beginning chapter you see an alien accidently hit her while pointing at something, but idk about the others

[@brokeninfinitysonic1]

I’m reading the manga, and it’s getting good. It has the dark storytelling of Goodnight Punpun.

[@ValentinR-x2m]

I’m getting the feeling that this is very closely parallels the CEO - Luigi situation at this moment.

[@alwayssleeping2456]

Reading the comments makes me think like yeah this feels like a marketing ploy of some kind, and while I understand your point of hating on the rich and famous I dont think "They speak another lenguage different from ours and comes from another different planet" is about class. The "they probably fled and now they're here because they comited a crime" is something that is used against inmigrants a lot too, so I cannot see it only as "the rich" at all, its more fitting into a racist/xenophobic view. I know this specially bc in my country there is a lot of xenophobic retoric against inmigrants specially. Also the "have special treatment" is also a thought that racist people think about people of colour see for example that in publishing books sometimes there is people that think bc somebody is of colour that they're granted special treatment diferent from white people when is not the case.

[@FlantisFroggu]

I want to see what's going to happen and how it will develop. How they are going to get caught or if they are going to become more dangerous While reading, I don't think about these things, or the joke that is the *community". The community is the only reason I know this exists

[@IndominusMemoir]

I love fun unhinged protags...

[@xienylv4402]

another great video to start the year!

[@vladstefan5216]

I believe that the main factor that will determine whether the allegory is about immigration or colonization will be the conceptualization of the protagonist's actions in the end. What I mean by that is that, to a xenophobe, immigrants are the same as colonizers, just because they themselves didn't personally welcome them to the "their land". Their reasoning, however, tends to get conspiratorial as to why their government would allow those "invaders" to come, since unlike real historical cases of colonization, this didn't involve any military action against the colonized, which becomes a downward spiral of radicalism. We get hints of such thinking in the manga too, regarding the aliens saving Earth from an asteroid. Usually, in the real world, those conspiracy theories are just nonsense, with immigration being just a thing people have done naturally since forever, but in a fictional world, anything can go however the author wants it to. If the conspiracy turns out true, then it will be an allegory about colonialism. If the conspiracy turns out false, then it is an allegory about xenophobia and immigration. The morality of the Protagonist's reaction is solely dependent on the reality that the author decides to create. For all we know, we might suddenly find out in a future chapter that the aliens also eat humans just because the author said so, which would retroactively absolve the protagonist of doing the same. Or maybe not, and the protag will be held accountable for the murder and consumtion of another sentient being, even if they believed themselves to be right.

[@IceCream-vd3jw]

When chapter 2 dropped I went to look at japanese twitter and... There were so, so many parallels with incidents that happened in real life in Japan related to foreign influence, and the amount was just too great to be a coincidence. EDIT: Oh and also apparently the cover for the manga makes reference to bukk*k* po*n film covers......... And uh....... Yeah that's um...

[@nekobyoneko444]

So, I just want to say that even if a character has a specific mindset that doesn't mean the author shares that mentality or is trying to promote their ideology. Protagonist or not they can be inherently flawed (or downright evil is some cases) people who believe they have been wronged enough to warrant their extreme viewpoint even if they almost certainly haven't. It is entirely possible that they are written to be in the wrong and completely overreacting. (Hence drama queens) They might not be meant to be heroes, they just happen to be the protagonists. The mangaka doesn't have to support a xenophobia, genocidal or a general murderous view in general to write a story about it. There are certainly some out there who write blatant mean spirited and hate filled manga, but we don't know what angle he is going for yet as the first 10-15 issues of a new weekly manga can be kinda shaky as they try to exposition dump and find their footing. I'm interested to see where the story will go. I just hope that Jump+ doesn't drop the series before it has a chance to go anywhere.

[@goatskin4487]

I think it’s anti colonialist. Minorities don’t get special treatment but especially those in Japan nor are they treated with reverence. Yet in a colonized country it’s often that way as those colonizers are seen as superiors and may freely treat those below them poorly.

[@MrGamemaker8]

I am too old I have not heard about this until I saw this

[@berniekatzroy]

Yeah I don't get the backlash. The only difference between this manga and immigration like which is a big theme is that we don't have immigrants bringing in advanced technology at all. The other issue is ok they supposedly saved the planet but how is it that they can turn a 1st world developed country's population into 2nd class citizens? In the west mass immigration has become such an issue especially when local government prioritizes them over its own citizens. I see this reflected in Japan bc the stagnant economy and ongoing low birthrate for decades now. It's gotten so bad they might actually have to taken in more immigrants/illegals. There's great examples of how much of this is, imagine a foreigner becoming the manager of a company in a place like Japan and not even knowing the language. This is similar in the US where we are beginning to have to learn a foreign language to accommodate the ongoing influx of illegals when they should be learning ours. I do see how it's controversial when Japan, a successful homogeneous country of all places has a right to protect its culture. The same goes for South Korea, China, and the Nordic countries. I don't advocate for violence towards foreigners but I do understand where the prejudice stems from. In this case, I also wouldn't be taking crap from cotton candy looking aliens making life harder for me.

[@Marykjjy]

Y’all are drama queen 😭

[@Nightmare704RY]

Honestly, I've read the full six chapters of the manga until now, and there is nothing in the manga that makes me think that the story wants us to be on the side of the main guy, I even doubted that his backstory was real till reading from chapter 2 onward because the dude just gave me bad vibes.

[@woolbebsi]

It’s funny and relatable. Plus Backbone is a cutie 😂

[@Lavathunder]

It could be how xenophobia is used as a way to blind people from class conflicts. Kind of like how people point to jewish people in high positions to justify antisemitism without considering the average Jewish person is just a normal guy living a similar life

[@JacF6734]

Leftist activists trying to pretend they care about Jewish people will never not be funny

[@Strike_0X]

the athor is not making a good job in beating the xenofobia alligatons but who knows maybe the protagonist being racist might be a plot point idk

[@pingpong5877]

We need more racist protagonists. It's interesting to read about someone who I can't personally connect with.

[@JacF6734]

“We need more flawed characters” mfs when the flawed character has some bigoted beliefs

[@Average_.AceAttorneyFan]

I get the point but the wording was pretty funny i'm sorry, I can't take it seriously 😭

[@SandB]

Yoo voice acting. Big breakdown

[@d3bugged]

2 chapters in and I'm loving this. I don't live on the Internet so I forgot about the crazies who cry racism at every single thing. Not seeing how it or the mangaka are racist, if anything it reminds me of the fact that many Japanese don't or didn't Like US occupation or the cultural changes after WWII. Angel Cop also had a dialogue about this and being "The US's vassal state". The concept and character are interesting.

[@BlackTakGolD]

I feel like this is an extension of the moralizing of goblins/orcs drama, where people look at them as like black people and connect dots from there, but I don't see where it's clarified that the aliens here stand for a race that is of moral consideration even, such as having consciousness/morality, for all you know they can be a hivemind next chapter and that surely would lend to think differently? I just don't get the need to as quickly as possible project implications and call it "n*zi sh*t".

[@gummywormee41]

If I recall Goblins were used as Jewish Stereotypes at one point? Might be remembering wrong, But it's mainly that people are looking into the story and noticing similiar things to rhetoric about "oh we're being replaced by the IMMAGRANTS and the foreigners! We should kill them all!" and are being cautious Especially since n,zis and really shitty people in general will use dogwhistles to appeal to eachother. (For example that whole thing on TT where people used "Hunting Gnomes" as a replacement for "Hunting Jewish People"

[@ephemeral999]

hi! came here just to debate a point - but sidenote, in my opinion i believe these elements in the manga could simply be symptomatic of bad writing (i.e, the social commentary usually relies on "speciesism" - for example the very obvious priviledges that rely on BEING an alien - instead of deriving from a symptom/escalation of the systems in place), id much rather see how this goes down to see if its like, very overt racism/xenophobia or "accidental bigotry by poorly thought out writing", lol i feel like the perception of the aliens as a metaphor for immigrants comes from actual xenophobic discourse, though! dont quote me on this, since i could be misremembering, but dont actual xenophobic circles use (or used?) the term alien to refer to foreigners? add that to the text, with those really edgy lines about "thrashing my home" and "society is on their side", also the part about alien language with their boss, and it starts to get kind of. weird, honestly sorry for any mistakes btw, english isnt my first language lmaooo

[@BlackTakGolD]

@@ephemeral999 Your English is better than mine probably so don't worry about that. I get where people are feeling something from it (especially westerners that might have this thinking more ingrained as you say) but the issue I have is the need to as promptly as possible to label these dialogue bits as "N*zi sh*t" as the author of this video did in the last part of it, when I could easily imagine plenty of other ways where that dialogue is just talking about the aliens in the story and not meant to for something in the real world, something that might make the aliens not even of moral consideration. I believe the author of this video is trying to act out that they are a neutral methodical party that isn't as hasty 'as the two sides' but they are pretty hasty themselves.

[@ephemeral999]

@@BlackTakGolD honestly, i feel like most of it comes from believing - like myself- that art is a reflection of the real world, so while i wont say its "n@zi stuff" due to this just being the start of the manga (which could have some 5d chess turnaround if the author is just punking us), i can understand people who interpret this as a reflection of general bigotry or potentially the authors views on the subconscious level of writing, even if it was just intended to be a "simple story about aliens"! which maybe was intensified due to the real world relations with japan and immigration, i dunno but thats my take on it as someone who loves to overthink anything and to me the person who made this video clearly is trying to play both sides but has complicated feelings on the subject (either thinking its a bad attempt at a metaphor for a class-commentary or just. kind of weird with the concept of aliens), but that just comes with the territory of being human - no ones 100% unbiased i guess its better to wait to see how far the story goes, depending on the way it plays out it could either just be the worst case scenario (the immigrant thing), the best case scenario (we got played) or some other options (poorly thought out class-commentary, something that was meant to be unserious but had weird implications, etc etc) i hope you have a good day and understand a bit of mine and others perspective on this :D

[@user-bc6yo3iz6l]

just the first few panels youve read are absoluetly diabolical

[@Ayumu-nd9qr]

I read the manga and like, I got mad that they were killing the aliens? Like they hardly did anything wrong?? It’s hard to justify the main characters killing aliens… it just seems like racism towards aliens… meep morp 😢

[@michaelurmo7984]

chainsaw man but with aliens

[@rhysbailey8406]

Making this video before you make one on chainsaw man or dandadan is nasty work

[@bilapansegrouw2863]

I’d read it just because of the art

[@phosp1083]

Vibes are horrendous Hope I’m wrong but…

[@phosp1083]

Is author could pull this idea off? Only time will tell..

[@Mh-gq7rs]

18:20 I mean when you try to simply something that obviously has layers its gunna get confusing The manga shows us aliens being bad The it shows us humans who can be just as scummy Its also shows us aliens who are just bystanders It shows us aliens who have relationships with humans But is also shows us how aliens are usally privlaged and are in places of power But also shiws us aliens who arent but whod still probably be on a higher socail standing then the humans in poverty given there social prescription Then we see our main characters they seem thankfull for aliens improving life but also hates the aliens because in return for improving human in some way they are getting special treatment Sure ther bosses in lowe incime jobs could be replaced by shitty humans but thats not the complete point but its is part of it right? we see alien social standings and we see what they are more likely to get away with If that car drive had been a human it could've been a likler chance theyd be found or had consequences but because that ailen could be genralised with the ones who saved the human race idk its all up in the air im hoping for more episodes

[@deadpan2866]

from what ive seen, the issues around this manga is just another case of terminally online people projecting their thoughts onto a manga they havnt read, and that goes for both sides of the argument. imo the author probably isnt fascist, if he has characters pointing out the futility of the main characters plan, thats still the author writing that, if there are good aliens that contradicts the main characters view of aliens, thats still the author writing in those aliens. there are plenty of stories throughout history that have main characters who arent meant to be good, sane and logical people without the author endorsing the main characters. edit: also i want to point out. its called drama queen... you know, what you call someone who over reacts

[@michaelhappy-x2p]

how to not be terminally online cuse some of jou really need it 1 read any type of book/comic/manga wat jou preffer 2 delet twitter + reddit 3 go outside realy do it now 4 get good 8 ours of sleep 6 stop arguin online the internet hate everyting nowe days cuse of these im still smart and kind

[@siginotmylastname3969]

​@sharkio93I hope you're unironic because this was a sweet thing to read thanks

[@michaelhappy-x2p]

@@siginotmylastname3969 i love readin comics and being alon so i try my best to stay healty

[@aashas8553]

I love this manga I can read it with my brain off

[@JJ5_dragon_heart]

I thought this was gonna be about the KZbinr 😭

[@Diruse]

This reminds me of the "FRIEREN IS RACIST" comments. XD Good video! 😁👍 Anyways I'm going to follow this series. I don't mind protagonists who are in the wrong.

[@PlaceHolder16]

I feel like this is a bit different from that

[@venomouscrystal6787]

I wont lie the story is amazing the drama from everyone saying its racism or something else is crazy to me.

[@thealpacaofsupport258]

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if the author does or doesn't mean the story to sound racist, bc that's the result, at least so far I might try to read it in the future once it's either have more chapters (50-60 maybe) or it'd finished I am on the side that it's probably intentional that the story is seems so wild and controversial, but it doesn't matter to me bc pissing yourself ironically it's still pissing yourself I do wish the best to the author tho! Shonen world is very cruel with how easy it is for new mangas to be axed if they don't have a super attractive or polemic first couple of chapters

[@wolfindragonsclothing]

Idk to me seeing the chapters people rage about I don't understand how it's about racism exactly. It's not the first time a different species or fantasy race is mark as dangerous or oppressing. Honestly seeing this kinda made me thing someone wanted to make a Manga about eating the rich literally. I think I'd need more than just this. Feels like an anime about corrupt corporations and of course you can't outright make an managa about that. Because you can get unwanted attention from them. So I think making them aliens is like the equivalent of Dangparompa (definitely butchered the name), making the blood pink to be less graphic.

[@vio2626]

*Danganronpa

[@ITR]

If you're right, then she's literally eating the rich

[@EmuFishy]

I think it’s funny when people take a work of fiction so seriously like we have aliens saving us from a giant space rock

[@Sonicfalcon16]

the fact that someone non japanese and be in a higher possession as a foreigner is ridiculous.

[@kloa4219]

Manga writers were overtly progressive back then. Cyborg 009 denounced fascism, Great Mazinger Z was anti racial discrimination, Akira was anti-capitalism, and Black Jack had a story that acknowledged Jim Crow laws. I feel that the author is not really naive, they know of the implications behind what they're making.

[@brandonandujar2289]

They had those views cause they had less foreigners then. If you are anti racist, then why import people who are racists that abuse japanese people's passive nature

[@Skull19O1]

First panels could already feel the authors frustration with gentrification which has been happening a lot all over the world since Covid. I mean hell, imagine life becoming more difficult when foreigners start coming to your area, in result apartments start to turn rise to an unfordable, groceries shops starts to place things overpriced and the lost of local culture to cater to the style of the “foreigners” with the same generic cafe shop. This comic is not xenophobic this comic is a product of its environment. This is frustrations that exist and deserve to be expressed through something. Preferably some poorly written comic than actions that lead to something worse.

[@gabriellebertrand3054]

Yeah but it is still xenophobic for a person to blame their neighbors who are from a different culture than the actual power structures that are impacting their neighborhood. A person can work with their neighbors to bring up issues like high rent to local government meetings. Instead of just seething in rage all alone resenting people who you could be in community with. Xenophobia is just the lazy-man’s option that creates no real change that most people take because it’s easier.

[@mateuszbanaszak4671]

​​​@@gabriellebertrand3054 There is grass, and there is a snake hidind in this grass. In the good interest of grass is to grow. So should you let it grow unchecked, thus giving the snake possibility to bite, or should you care about your lawn and *YOUR* good interest, as the *OWNER* of this lawn, by keeping the grass in check and the snakes away? Johny Somali is banished from Japan and Korea for a reason. No?

[@Skull19O1]

@@gabriellebertrand3054 my guy I don’t know where your coming from but in the real world landlords and businesses won’t give a shit they’ll just recommend them to other place cause they know if the people leave others will come cause they have more purchasing power. It’s clear you have not experienced gentrification, also either you like it or not artist have the right to express their frustrations either you like it or not. Once again it ain’t xenophobic it’s clearly class base.

[@ero6056]

​@@Skull19O1 Japan have a long history of xenophobia from the persecution of Christians in amakusa, their treatment to Korea before first sino Japanese war and their treatment of Chinese, pinoys, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Malays and more in second world war but unlike Germany Japan still see themselves as the victims of American firebombing and nuclear bombs which caused them to revision their history and pet out the unsavory part of their pasts from their history books so no it's may not just be a simple matter of gentrification but thanks to anime people like to bend over backwards even if they themselves get to experience Japanese xenophobia personally

[@ero6056]

​@@Skull19O1Japan have a long history of xenophobia from the persecution of Christians in amakusa, their treatment to Korea before first sino Japanese war and their treatment of Chinese, pinoys, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Malays and more in second world war but unlike Germany Japan still see themselves as the victims of American firebombing and nuclear bombs which caused them to revision their history and pet out the unsavory part of their pasts from their history books so no it's may not just be a simple matter of gentrification but thanks to anime people like to bend over backwards even if they themselves get to experience Japanese xenophobia personally

[@PrincessNine]

Even if you lied to my face and told me the creator has zero biggoted idiations and i chose to believe you, the material in of itself is biggoted and does not promote a open minded perspective to cultural assimilation and immigrants. It is disproportionately "othering". If the story hard pivots thats one thing but in its current form it's gross because even if you as a writer are a totally swell person, youre actively ignoring uninted messaging and subtext that can be siphoned from yours or any body of work and as such youre not immune to criticism on your manga being politically poo poo. I say that because 10:33 into the video because "being charitable" to the writer might as well be the equivalent of a free pass to keep it up instead of reflecting on what he may be intentionally or unintentionally saying. Reminder, theres been no attempts at the moment to show the "aliens" (who are assimilated to society and are not evil violent invaders here to "take your white women")in a positive light and our other human characters are also supporting our leads. Again, theres a chance the story will hard pivot into a new perspective and truly show that the early stuff was a sort of bait and switch. Which i'd respect. But im not about to read and watch every manga and anime expecting the next Attack on Titan if you get my point. Now that i got further in the video and got to the "eat the rich" theory. My point is emboldened. Frankly this is why i hate Japanese creators using fictional creature's for metaphor/allegory because they dont line up 1 to 1 with the real thing. So the message falls flat on its face because "yknow, maybe that politician has a point about that kid who shoots laser from his eyes". For all the faults of comics, im always glad real united states history factually happened in them because when a writer might wanna be coy and use the xmen as an allegory for race or sexuality, at the bare minimum those marginalized groups are actually in the story because your fictional stand in cant ACTUALLY stand in for the subject. They Simply provide a window to its ideas. Think about it, it's a mixed message if theyre a "eat the rich" allegory but theyre ALL ethnic minorities not from "here" and instead of using language that focuses on their types(the rich) the manga uses language of "theyre different from me". Ultimately good video.