Socialist Revolution! | Spectrum Street Epistemology w/Revolutionary Communists of America Member

[@drpeterboghossian]

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[@Misitheus]

The only "ism" I believe in is alcoholism......Peace!

[@bhante1345]

@@Misitheus Speaking of which, time to crack a bottle.

[@Misitheus]

@@bhante1345 .....60 year old dried up recov here....take a swig for me!

[@bhante1345]

@@Misitheus agh, I'll give it up soon.

[@TheVeganVicar]

🐟 22. ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNANCES: UNLAWFUL DOMINION: In the preceding chapter, it was proven beyond any semblance of a doubt, that an actual, patriarchal monarch (that is, a genuine, saintly king, as defined in that chapter) is the only class of human who is qualified to rule a nation, just as lesser societal units (such as nuclear families, extended families, clans, tribes, villages, towns, and cities) are best governed by their respective patriarchs. Therefore, logically, any system of administration OTHER than one controlled by a naturally-arisen patriarch, is inherently evil, wicked, illegal, illegitimate, criminal, and adharmic. Also, turn to Chapters 25 and 26, in order to learn the reasons why the concept of “matriarchy” is not only adharmic, but downright farcical! SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM: SOCIALISM is a political and economic system of social organization, in which natural resources, property, and the means of production are owned in common, controlled by the collective public, but typically, by a cooperative, the state, or the government, as opposed to private ownership by individuals and/or business corporations. Socialism is based on the notion that common or public ownership of resources and means of production leads to a more equal society. It is a stage of society in Marxist theory, transitional between capitalism and communism, and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Hence, COMMUNISM is an extreme form of socialism that strives for both social and economic equality, something that can never be achieved, since true equality can never ever exist in the ontic world. Socialism (and communism) is best defined in contrast with capitalism (or to be more accurate, with free-market economies), as socialism has arisen both as a critical challenge to capitalism, and as a proposal for overcoming and replacing it. Cf. “capitalism”, in the Glossary of this book. Socialism/communism is INTRINSICALLY evil, because it is based on an ideology of both social and economic egalitarianism, which is a practical impossibility, if not a theoretical impossibility. Equality exists solely in abstract concepts such as mathematics, and arguably within the atomic and sub-atomic realms. Many proponents of socialism argue that it is purely an economic system, and therefore, independent of any particular form of governance. However, it is inconceivable that socialism/communism could be implemented on a nationwide scale without any form of government intervention. If a certain number of persons wish to unite, in order to form a commune or a worker-cooperative, that is their prerogative, but it could never work in a country with a large population, because there will always exist entrepreneurs desirous of engaging in wealth-building enterprises. Even a musician who composes and records a hit tune, wants his song to succeed and earn him substantial wealth. As mentioned above, although socialists and communists maintain their ideologies to be purely ECONOMIC systems, it is very difficult, if not outright impossible, to divorce them from the political sphere, because socialism depends on a governing power to organize society in a very meticulous manner. In any case, assuming that socialism is nothing more than a form of economic organization, simply for the fact that it disallows any kind of free-market exchange (the latter of which is objectively moral - or at worst, amoral - see Chapter 12), socialism and communism must not be imposed on any community, society, or nation, according to the principles of sanātana dharma. At worst, socialism/ communism is a truly horrific, tyrannical, totalitarian, murderous regime, that leads to untold pain and misery, due to certain dogmas that are intrinsically associated with Marxism, particularly a ferocious hostility towards all things dharmic, especially the freedom of religious practice. Witless Marxists enjoy using the terms “capitalism” and “imperialism” in rather INACCURATE and emotive ways, in order to emphasize their supposedly-wicked natures. I would wager that the main motivation for Karl Marx’ (as well as the multitude of vassals to his caustic ideology) hatred for free-market economies, is simply out of envy for the business class. There is very little doubt in my mind, that if Herr Marx and his evil acolytes, had somehow found themselves with a healthy bank balance, they would have invested their financial resources in some kind of profitable enterprise, such as establishing a business or investing in company shares or stocks, rather than distributing their wealth among the poor masses, which would be more in keeping with their inane, egalitarian principles. If you think otherwise, then you are truly deluded, and think too highly of that parasite, Marx, who, for his sustenance, solicited funds from his friends, instead of earning an honest living as a writer. Socialism reduces individual citizens to utilities, who, in practice, are used to support the ruling elite, who are invariably despotic scoundrels, and very far from ideal leaders (i.e. compassionate and righteous monarchs). Those citizens who display talent in business or the arts are either oppressed, or their gifts are coercively utilized by the corrupt state. Despite purporting to be a fair and equitable system of wealth distribution, those in leadership positions seem to live a far more luxurious lifestyle than the mass of menial workers. Wealth is effectively stolen from the rich. Most destructively, virtuous and holy teachings (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) are repressed by the irreligious and ILLEGITIMATE “government”. The argument that some form of government WELFARE programme is essential to aid those who are unable to financially-support themselves for reasons beyond their control, is fallacious. A righteous ruler (i.e., a saintly monarch) will ensure the welfare of each and every citizen, by encouraging private welfare. There is no need for a king to extort resources from his subjects, in order to feed and clothe the impoverished. Of course, in the highly-unlikely event that civilians are unwilling to help a human in dire straits, the king would step-in to assist that person, as one would expect from a patriarch (father of his people). The head of any nation ought to be the penultimate patriarch, not a selfish buffoon. DEMOCRACY: DEMOCRACY is almost as evil as socialism, because, just as the rabble favoured the murderous Barabbas over the good King Jesus, the ignorant masses will vote, overwhelmingly, for the candidate who promises to fulfil their petty desires, rather than one who will enforce the law, and promote a wholesome and just society. Read Chapter 12 for the most authoritative and concise exegesis of law and ethics, currently available. Unlike socialism, in which wealth is stolen from the rich and distributed to the poor (with a “little” bit extra for the ruling elite), democratic governments frequently steal money from the working-class via the taxation system, and distribute it to the already affluent, often indirectly. Even in the miraculous scenario where the vast majority of the population are holy and righteous citizens, it is still immoral for them to vote for a seemingly-righteous leader. This is because that leader will not be, by definition, a king. As clearly and logically explicated in the previous chapter of this Holy Scripture, MONARCHY is the only lawful form of governance. If an elected ruler is truly righteous, he will not be able to condone the fact that the citizens are paying him to perform a job (which is a working-class role), and that an inordinate amount of time, money and resources are being wasted on political campaigning. Furthermore, an actual ruler does not wimpishly pander to voters - he takes power by (divinely-mandated) force, as one would expect from the penultimate alpha-male in society (the ultimate alpha-male being a priest). The thought of children voting for who will be their parents or teachers, would seem utterly RIDICULOUS to the average person, yet most believe that they are qualified to choose their own ruler - they are most assuredly not! Just as a typical child fails to understand that a piece of sweet, juicy, nutritious, delicious fruit is more beneficial for them than a cone of pus-infested, fattening, diabetes-inducing ice-cream, so too can the uneducated proletariat not understand that they are unqualified to choose their own leader, even after it is logically explained to them (as it is in this chapter, as well as in the previous chapter). And by “uneducated”, it is simply meant that they are misguided in the realities of life and in “dharma” (righteous living), not in facts and figures, nor in technical training. Wisdom doesn’t necessarily correlate with intelligence! No democratic (or socialist) government will educate its citizens sufficiently well, that those citizens will acquire knowledge of how to usurp their regime. To put it frankly, democracy is rule by the “lowest common denominator”. One who requires the services of a brain surgeon NATURALLY seeks the most qualified physician to perform the operation, so logically, we ought accept the sovereignty of the most qualified man to rule over an entire nation (a genuine king). Furthermore, true democracy is impossible in practice - see the entry “democracy” in the Glossary of what is, by far, the most important work of literature ever composed, this Holy Scripture, “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”. ANARCHY: Cont...

[@russingram]

I love how you let him explain exactly what socialists and Communists believe so everyone can see how immature their ideas are.

[@TheVeganVicar]

🐟 22. ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNANCES: UNLAWFUL DOMINION: In the preceding chapter, it was proven beyond any semblance of a doubt, that an actual, patriarchal monarch (that is, a genuine, saintly king, as defined in that chapter) is the only class of human who is qualified to rule a nation, just as lesser societal units (such as nuclear families, extended families, clans, tribes, villages, towns, and cities) are best governed by their respective patriarchs. Therefore, logically, any system of administration OTHER than one controlled by a naturally-arisen patriarch, is inherently evil, wicked, illegal, illegitimate, criminal, and adharmic. Also, turn to Chapters 25 and 26, in order to learn the reasons why the concept of “matriarchy” is not only adharmic, but downright farcical! SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM: SOCIALISM is a political and economic system of social organization, in which natural resources, property, and the means of production are owned in common, controlled by the collective public, but typically, by a cooperative, the state, or the government, as opposed to private ownership by individuals and/or business corporations. Socialism is based on the notion that common or public ownership of resources and means of production leads to a more equal society. It is a stage of society in Marxist theory, transitional between capitalism and communism, and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Hence, COMMUNISM is an extreme form of socialism that strives for both social and economic equality, something that can never be achieved, since true equality can never ever exist in the ontic world. Socialism (and communism) is best defined in contrast with capitalism (or to be more accurate, with free-market economies), as socialism has arisen both as a critical challenge to capitalism, and as a proposal for overcoming and replacing it. Cf. “capitalism”, in the Glossary of this book. Socialism/communism is INTRINSICALLY evil, because it is based on an ideology of both social and economic egalitarianism, which is a practical impossibility, if not a theoretical impossibility. Equality exists solely in abstract concepts such as mathematics, and arguably within the atomic and sub-atomic realms. Many proponents of socialism argue that it is purely an economic system, and therefore, independent of any particular form of governance. However, it is inconceivable that socialism/communism could be implemented on a nationwide scale without any form of government intervention. If a certain number of persons wish to unite, in order to form a commune or a worker-cooperative, that is their prerogative, but it could never work in a country with a large population, because there will always exist entrepreneurs desirous of engaging in wealth-building enterprises. Even a musician who composes and records a hit tune, wants his song to succeed and earn him substantial wealth. As mentioned above, although socialists and communists maintain their ideologies to be purely ECONOMIC systems, it is very difficult, if not outright impossible, to divorce them from the political sphere, because socialism depends on a governing power to organize society in a very meticulous manner. In any case, assuming that socialism is nothing more than a form of economic organization, simply for the fact that it disallows any kind of free-market exchange (the latter of which is objectively moral - or at worst, amoral - see Chapter 12), socialism and communism must not be imposed on any community, society, or nation, according to the principles of sanātana dharma. At worst, socialism/ communism is a truly horrific, tyrannical, totalitarian, murderous regime, that leads to untold pain and misery, due to certain dogmas that are intrinsically associated with Marxism, particularly a ferocious hostility towards all things dharmic, especially the freedom of religious practice. Witless Marxists enjoy using the terms “capitalism” and “imperialism” in rather INACCURATE and emotive ways, in order to emphasize their supposedly-wicked natures. I would wager that the main motivation for Karl Marx’ (as well as the multitude of vassals to his caustic ideology) hatred for free-market economies, is simply out of envy for the business class. There is very little doubt in my mind, that if Herr Marx and his evil acolytes, had somehow found themselves with a healthy bank balance, they would have invested their financial resources in some kind of profitable enterprise, such as establishing a business or investing in company shares or stocks, rather than distributing their wealth among the poor masses, which would be more in keeping with their inane, egalitarian principles. If you think otherwise, then you are truly deluded, and think too highly of that parasite, Marx, who, for his sustenance, solicited funds from his friends, instead of earning an honest living as a writer. Socialism reduces individual citizens to utilities, who, in practice, are used to support the ruling elite, who are invariably despotic scoundrels, and very far from ideal leaders (i.e. compassionate and righteous monarchs). Those citizens who display talent in business or the arts are either oppressed, or their gifts are coercively utilized by the corrupt state. Despite purporting to be a fair and equitable system of wealth distribution, those in leadership positions seem to live a far more luxurious lifestyle than the mass of menial workers. Wealth is effectively stolen from the rich. Most destructively, virtuous and holy teachings (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) are repressed by the irreligious and ILLEGITIMATE “government”. The argument that some form of government WELFARE programme is essential to aid those who are unable to financially-support themselves for reasons beyond their control, is fallacious. A righteous ruler (i.e., a saintly monarch) will ensure the welfare of each and every citizen, by encouraging private welfare. There is no need for a king to extort resources from his subjects, in order to feed and clothe the impoverished. Of course, in the highly-unlikely event that civilians are unwilling to help a human in dire straits, the king would step-in to assist that person, as one would expect from a patriarch (father of his people). The head of any nation ought to be the penultimate patriarch, not a selfish buffoon. DEMOCRACY: DEMOCRACY is almost as evil as socialism, because, just as the rabble favoured the murderous Barabbas over the good King Jesus, the ignorant masses will vote, overwhelmingly, for the candidate who promises to fulfil their petty desires, rather than one who will enforce the law, and promote a wholesome and just society. Read Chapter 12 for the most authoritative and concise exegesis of law and ethics, currently available. Unlike socialism, in which wealth is stolen from the rich and distributed to the poor (with a “little” bit extra for the ruling elite), democratic governments frequently steal money from the working-class via the taxation system, and distribute it to the already affluent, often indirectly. Even in the miraculous scenario where the vast majority of the population are holy and righteous citizens, it is still immoral for them to vote for a seemingly-righteous leader. This is because that leader will not be, by definition, a king. As clearly and logically explicated in the previous chapter of this Holy Scripture, MONARCHY is the only lawful form of governance. If an elected ruler is truly righteous, he will not be able to condone the fact that the citizens are paying him to perform a job (which is a working-class role), and that an inordinate amount of time, money and resources are being wasted on political campaigning. Furthermore, an actual ruler does not wimpishly pander to voters - he takes power by (divinely-mandated) force, as one would expect from the penultimate alpha-male in society (the ultimate alpha-male being a priest). The thought of children voting for who will be their parents or teachers, would seem utterly RIDICULOUS to the average person, yet most believe that they are qualified to choose their own ruler - they are most assuredly not! Just as a typical child fails to understand that a piece of sweet, juicy, nutritious, delicious fruit is more beneficial for them than a cone of pus-infested, fattening, diabetes-inducing ice-cream, so too can the uneducated proletariat not understand that they are unqualified to choose their own leader, even after it is logically explained to them (as it is in this chapter, as well as in the previous chapter). And by “uneducated”, it is simply meant that they are misguided in the realities of life and in “dharma” (righteous living), not in facts and figures, nor in technical training. Wisdom doesn’t necessarily correlate with intelligence! No democratic (or socialist) government will educate its citizens sufficiently well, that those citizens will acquire knowledge of how to usurp their regime. To put it frankly, democracy is rule by the “lowest common denominator”. One who requires the services of a brain surgeon NATURALLY seeks the most qualified physician to perform the operation, so logically, we ought accept the sovereignty of the most qualified man to rule over an entire nation (a genuine king). Furthermore, true democracy is impossible in practice - see the entry “democracy” in the Glossary of what is, by far, the most important work of literature ever composed, this Holy Scripture, “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”. ANARCHY: Cont...

[@a-b-c123]

And how potentially violent & dangerous they are.

[@1godlessmonkey]

"Immature?" I'd call them evil.

[@hsbdkdndn]

Yes, calling someone evil who you disagree with is the definition of the Socratic method​@@1godlessmonkey

[@timrichardson518]

Peter is very patient; I couldn’t keep quiet listening to his immature drivel

[@YourBestFriendforToday]

You can tell this guy hasn’t had a real job yet.

[@Misitheus]

...beat me to it......Peace!

[@jackiekjono]

do you think he will ever get one?

[@vecernicek2]

Yes, including the blow species.

[@kennethmeeker6369]

@@jackiekjonohe’ll get it but he won’t keep it.

[@meirm471]

You have saved me the labour of typing it myself! I am an oligarch now, you worked and I capitalized on it!

[@svenhans662]

You know who doesn’t advocate for communism? The working class.

[@rudeboyjim2684]

The working class doesn’t know what “communism” means.

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

That's not true in the slightest wtf

[@vajoynus]

​@@WhenDevilsDuelit is 100% completely true. Nobody that produces anything for living advocates giving it away for free.

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

@@vajoynus you're currently talking to a driller. It's not true.

[@vajoynus]

@@WhenDevilsDuel how much of your wages do you give away for free?

[@vonnie0_0]

“Communism will work this time, trust me bro.” -Guy who hasn’t worked a day in his life

[@jumpupdown2556]

"Yeah! Dis time, MYYYYY generation will be in charge!! And we can't fail, we're too EDJEWMUCKADED and CAWING!!!!"

[@MultiAwesomered]

​@@jumpupdown2556 How can I bake a cake?

[@souxcasa]

Marx didn't work a day in his life either. Lived off his relatives and friends

[@sdrc92126]

@@souxcasa He was paid to write _The Communist Manifesto_ by an arguably heretical Christian organization.

[@WillieDangerously]

​@@souxcasaI read a translation of one of his father's letters sent to Karl about how he only really reaches out to his parents when he needs money and has upset the family for pretending one of his siblings didn't exist over ideological disagreements. You can't make this stuff up.

[@cargyjohn350]

The most dangerous people are those who are thoroughly convinced of their own moral superiority and willing to enforce it on others by any means necessary. What a sad and foolish man.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Great comment, thank you!

[@cmcull987]

Well said. Some day, I expect he will find himself in the "other" or "privileged" or "bougie" category as an of enemy of the people. I don't wish that upon him; just that, it's the way most communism plays out.

[@gengiz80]

That's not unprecedented in American history. He gave the example of the American Civil War and freeing of the slaves

[@sdrc92126]

Ideology is religion and religion is ideology

[@porgguy4962]

Yeah just how far is this guy willing to go to bring about his Communist revolution?

[@amt5894]

There is no such thing as a communist that understands Econ 101.

[@roberthentosh5635]

Most econ professors are communist at universities. And I agree with your statement.

[@Shadow_banned_again]

A communist is someone who read Karl Marx. A free market person is someone who understands Marx.

[@MultiAwesomered]

A capitalist is someone who read economics. A communist is someone who understands economics.

[@Shadow_banned_again]

@@MultiAwesomered nice inversion. 👍🏽 but there’s a diff between theory and practice/ reality. Thomas Sowell was a communist that continued his communist stance even through Milt Freedman classes. Later says reality changed his view and to quote, “Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”

[@Shadow_banned_again]

@@MultiAwesomered (the tube deletes my comments for using the C word.) nice inversion. I am a big fan of Peter Joseph’s work. But there’s a diff between theory and practice/ reality. c0m munism gives those evil capitalists complete ownership and control of everything and everyone, then they redistribute poverty, not wealth. To quote Thomas Sowell that was a c0m munist even through Milt Freedman economics classes and said reality later changed his mind, “S0 cialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”

[@gergenheimer]

@@MultiAwesomered Anyone who has read Marx and believes that what he wrote has anything whatsoever to do with economics is delusional at best - more likely, they are the brainwashed members of the Hegelian cult(s). Being as generous as possible, Marx was the egotistical founder of a religious sect - a privileged, lazy, unemployed, ingrate, who nevertheless leeched money from family and friends to retain a household maid (whom he underpaid, mistreated and impregnated) If Marx is the paragon of your life's virtues, you should really take a long, hard look in the mirror.

[@isaknoem5475]

Do you understand Karl Marx?

[@roymarshjiujitsu]

A few things I can guarantee: 1. This guy has never had a callus. 2. His idea of what constitutes the working class is Grad Students and NGO managers but not those terrible truckers and farmers who protested these past few years . 3. He would have no idea how to communicate in a normal way to anyone if he walked into a garage or in a loading dock

[@yaeli_i_guess]

exactly. they're all the same. champagne socialists like hasanabi. all fighting for the supposed working class. there was a twitter thread a while back titled what would be your job in the commune, filled with communists saying they would be "making coffee and leading discourse on politics" i'm not exaggerating. lol no, into the coal mines you go

[@easymoneymusic1076]

Funking commie lunatic

[@northrndisordr9219]

It's ironic cuz the libtards even took the working class fashion sense

[@krymz1]

Your number 2 oint sounds like you did not listen to the video.

[@WaaDoku]

@@krymz1 I think his point was that the guy in the video would probably declassify blue color workers like farmers or truckers as part of the working class that should start a revolution because they are "far-right" and conservative... The thing is, most of the working class is right wing conservative. They just want to have their basic needs met and care zero percent about left-wing causes like climate change, green energy, diversity, LGBT rights, parity in politics or women in CEO positions. They want to be able to feed their children and have a reliable roof over their heads.

[@TIm_Bugge]

He wishes for it to work, therefore it will work.

[@gergenheimer]

That is literally the mantra of all of the Hegelian cults - socialism, Communism, Fascism, the National Socialists, Progressivism, wokeism, etc. - the laws of physics, human nature and Mother Nature can be ignored to bring about the new transcendent state of being.

[@honestlyforreal6304]

His reliance on the good FAITH of the mob is fascinating.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Great point

[@gengiz80]

But you're relying on the good faith of the rich😂

[@honestlyforreal6304]

@@gengiz80 nope. It isn't required.

[@gengiz80]

@@honestlyforreal6304 that's essentially what you have without any fight against the pernicious effects of capitalism. You're relying on the good faith of the rich

[@WillieDangerously]

What greatly disenfranchised me from his argument was how he assumed if the working conditions and the reward/recognition for the workers improved that they would reliably function and play their role in this communist system. That is simply not how everyone operates. You would need education to give workers a sense of duty to their people instilled from a young age, but this will not be a perfect solution, and would therefor lead to something like capitol punishment to negativley reinforce compliance.

[@mattrex8599]

I'm so tired of these people

[@bhante1345]

Living in fantasy land.

[@jaewok5G]

NO!! they MUST be confronted otherwise even stupider people will believe that they are correct! "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" - Ronald Reagan #DoYouSeeItYet #RememberItAll #RememberToVote 🇺🇸

[@allrequiredfields]

Super fucking tired of these people.

[@electrolytics]

Amen. Me too.

[@angelawest9759]

Old communist joke; Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the other way around.

[@JS-ls6ky]

This... this is gold!

[@Enso-dz9ds]

‘I moved back in with my dad’ 😂😂😂

[@Apriluser]

He’s a Basement boy. 😅

[@siggyincr7447]

Literally made me laugh out loud when he said that. Looks to be late 20's/early 30's and can't support himself but thinks he knows how to improve upon society. The hubris of these idiots is astounding.

[@Bufekana]

​@@toobiasj i agree, i can see that, he has a good heart, but a guy like him in a communist country they would use him and abuse him like a "useful idiot"

[@Bufekana]

​@@toobiasjhe has a good heart, hes trying...but this is not reality. people like him are called "useful i...." and you know that right?

[@timrichardson518]

@@toobiasjagree. Mao, Lenin and Robespierre started as idealistic young people, too.

[@free_at_last8141]

I expected this worldview to have gone completely out of style as I aged. Little did I realize that the same arguments have to be made with each generation.

[@sdrc92126]

Learn who's keeping it alive. Behind the facade, it's a push to return to a feudal system

[@yaeli_i_guess]

@@sdrc92126 and a caliphate. just like the iranian communists in the 70s

[@drpeterboghossian]

It certainly seems that way.

[@josephsk8737]

I laughed out loud when he said the students on the campus are the equivalent of workers so they should make decisions about how the university is run

[@cfidad7005]

This man truly believes we can operate like a bee colony😅

[@hjge1012]

Lol. Has this guy ever even talked to anyone in the actual working class?

[@Murdocksmith6]

No. Just students/activists who haven’t worked yet.

[@someoneelse9271]

Spot on👍

[@rexvectum]

Communists in the US would never voluntarily spend any time with any actual working class people they're all children of super wealthy capitalists

[@jenniferterry6775]

If by canvassing all of the Working Class, you mean talking to his fellow Starbucks employees, in between crying jags.

[@Sahih-al-Bukkaki]

in his mind, even professors and writers are working class so........

[@holierthan]

Dellusional and extremely dangerous.

[@quantum_ocean]

He’s only a danger to himself. Dude will never have any real power or influence

[@jon123xyz]

He is a cult devotee. Like JW or Hare Chrishna handing out pamflets and seeking donations.

[@DAVID-io9nj]

Telling that no one who have actually lived under communist rule has any desire to do so again.

[@svenhaheim]

A fairly smart guy that has read too many and too many wrong books. The most dangerous type there is. When he said "jeff bezos that doesnt do any kind of work" I laughed out loud.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Well put!

[@IamShado]

I almost had to pause and go take a nap when he said that. But he's not an anomaly, everyone on his side believes this. These are people who have never run a business or actually talked to someone who has.

[@raphaelmohr1965]

The most good-faith assumption would be that he meant Jeff bezos doesn't do any work proportional to the income and wealth he enjoys. But i have very little good faith for marxist dreamers.

[@MultiAwesomered]

Jeff bezos doesn't do any kind of work. Show me the work that can be attributed to him

[@svenhaheim]

@@MultiAwesomered Hes worked tirelessly last 30 year to build Amazon and you can attribute that to him in its entirety. Working at that level means a 24/7 job for decades.

[@duarteleonardo8352]

Although I completely disagree with the communist in every single topic, i actually think he conducted himself pretty well, just presented his views and explained why he stands by them, even if you think he's totally wrong. Definitely good guest.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Yes, the point of street epistemology is to lower animosity and let people explain themselves and their views. I'm glad you noticed. He was a great guest.

[@digitalian99]

stupid guest... but definitely a decent person

[@Kmuggle]

@@digitalian99 A decent person ... whom if he had his way ... would seize the products of your work, dreams and aspirations ... and distribute it to others ... based on an "iffy" idea about how and who controls society. He may be likeable, well spoken and intelligent ... but his sort of decency ... is dangerous.

[@digitalian99]

@@Kmuggle " whom if he had his way ... "---- well me just listening to the guy... i surmise he's the type of person who COULDN'T have his way" -- if you get what i mean

[@digitalian99]

@@Kmuggle "He may be likeable, well spoken and intelligent ... " -- he does not sound intelligent nor well spoken to me

[@doomsdaymonster7]

I applaud his theoretical sunshine land. He's completely dismissed one TINY MICROSCOPIC LITTLE thingie called tyranny of the majority, which happens when you have a majority democracy society. He's also discounting the fact (and it's a fact) that Communism leads to extreme corruption of bureaucracy.

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

That's not a fact, we've never EVER had an actual communist government

[@FeWolf]

I grew up in sight of Berlin Wall, I just those so pro socialism, move to a socialist country, those of us who came from one, never go back.

[@mpalgy]

Yeah buddy. Communism with work *this* time 😂

[@sdrc92126]

Communism is the end state after which history stops because there are no more conflicts or disagreements because there is nothing to disagree over. It is utopia. Socialism is the struggle, jihad in Arabic or Kampf in German, to get you there. The point is to make everyone equal, not to make everyone better, so you ca't say that it does't work.

[@12345MrTomcat]

They know it won't work. They just want power.

[@sdrc92126]

@@12345MrTomcat Communism is a generational plan to take control of the world's resources wrapped in a pretty story.

[@AtrusOranis]

If someone digs a hole at my house, have they created value? Depends. If i ask them to, in preparation for a pool, then yes, because i value the pool and the hole needed to build it. If they do it in my living room, then no. In fact, I would argue they destroyed value. The same ammount of labor could be exerted for both (or more effort was used to put the hole in the living room). But _where_ it is placed determines the value. But I guess in his world, if the workers democratically elected to put a hole in my living room, then that is what makes it valueable.

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

Why are you arguing semantics when it's obvious what they meant?

[@Apeiron242]

According to this kid there would be no such thing as "your house".

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

@@Apeiron242 not at all what they said, enjoy your copium.

[@fatmonkey4716]

​@@WhenDevilsDuel That is clearly a "he".

[@raphaelmohr1965]

Does he not understand that "the people" inevitably means "the government"? It always turns into the government. Also, his comments were pretty revealing. I surmise what he personally wants is that he can do art all day long while others do his plumbing.

[@icyGrip666]

What if the workers decide they dont want to stop drilling for oil?

[@erikkovacs3097]

Gulag.

[@gengiz80]

Then that's what would keep happening but at least it isn't determined by the greed of a few people

[@nyrisj]

​@gengiz80 So it's better at the stupidity of many? Peter asked him who decides where to drill and his response was the people, not "the guy who knows where to find oil". This kid must think iphones can be mined out of caves.

[@gengiz80]

@@nyrisj when he says the people that can look like workers coops. In those coops the workers who are specialized in their field would decide how to set up the decision making process.

[@nyrisj]

@@gengiz80 So it returns to a meritocracy? Why would this person be specialized in the first place if there's no inherent advantage to being specialized?

[@habitatfarm]

If only these ideas had been put into practice in another country, then maybe we’d have done insight into the most probable outcomes.

[@gt4654]

The communist worker seems like he's never worked even an hour in his life....

[@michaelbeasley5783]

A different power class (ruling class?) than the current one will make life better for everyone. Never heard that one before! 🤪

[@jeffreyscott4997]

The rule of "the working class" is still rule.

[@michaelbeasley5783]

@@jeffreyscott4997 I hope you get that this reiterates my point. So I agree, of course.

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

At least it's actually connected to the people in some way. But you go ahead and continue participating in a system ruled by lobbyists rather than your so called representatives who have never done anything to actually benefit your personal place in life whatsoever, enjoy your politicians who see you as nothing but statistics.

[@agnesberes4084]

​@@WhenDevilsDuelI'm from an ex- communist country. I don't think you know what you're talking about. It wasn't good for anyone but a small group of privileged people. It was built on envy and rage and got the worst out of the human nature.

[@WhenDevilsDuel]

@@agnesberes4084 you're from a country that called themselves communists but didn't practice it at all* fixed that for you. There's never been an actual communist country.

[@alligatoruno6975]

Surely the 87th time will work now.

[@gengiz80]

I guess China doesn't exist

[@unpopularopinionpodcast24]

The way he assumes that people who earn a lot of money don’t work is infuriating.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Well unless you classify printing money for yourself then pumping the markets with it to increase your wealth before pulling the rug out from under everyone as WORK, I think he's right.

[@fatmonkey4716]

​@@crazyprayingmantis5596Who is supposed to be the check against government greed again?

[@bendabutcha]

Problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money

[@joshaulis8326]

Look, I completely understand the sentiment of what this young man is trying to say in a utopian perfect world. Communism would work, but the problem is Humans are flawed and it all comes down to flawed. People controlling other people. You lose the free market. The ability to be financially Independent. The loss of property. And for the most part, a universal loss of freedom under that regime.

[@mattrex8599]

@@joshaulis8326 that communism should also be voluntary not something forced upon us by those with power.

[@russingram]

That's one of the big differences between them and us. They believe humans are born perfect and are corrupted by Society. We know that imperfect human beings are civilized by Society. That's why it's called civilization.

[@jaewok5G]

>"in a utopian perfect world, communism would work" this has been my thought experiment ever since i understood that there are different ideas of societal organization and i have come to a different conclusion. even before the 'humans are flawed' argument, i contend that á priori to the establishment of the utopia, there must not exist competitive desire for it would immediately move to destroy the delicate balance. to further steel-man the utopia, all commodities have become ubiquitous and communal so that there is no scarcity in the economic sense and so no justification for jealousy nor envy, eg, every vehicle is an all electric range rover with keyless push button start and near instant recharging and over-saturated availability. ie as you come out of a store, you just get into the nearest vehicle and drive away as the ministry of vehicles keeps them all working in tip top order. … and there it is … the means for the downfall … the simplest of concepts; "nearest" … convenience … it's not even about choice or emotion or any human failure. it would be one's duty as a citizen to use the 'nearest' of any commodity since to even say, "use the 2nd nearest" would mean you are imposing an inconvenience to the comrade for whom _that_ vehicle/theater seat/office desk IS the nearest, and yet, everything cannot exist in the same space so someone WILL have to be unequally inconvenienced ¬ the conflict is unavoidable in a matter of a moment after the utopia is established. further, if i go to two locations for my errands and i put my first purchases in the vehicle as i go to my next destination, it wouldn't be a transgression to expect to complete my rounds in one attempt and not have to repeat them because the car i just left was rightfully taken by another for whom it had become their closest vehicle, so what do i do? perhaps the simplest n gentlest of indicator, i signal/sign/light on the roof 'reserving' _this_ car for my continued use. can you blame me? is this criminal? if we don't all do this, then nothing would get accomplished without pan-choreography of every citizens' public movement from the office to the park to the toilets. it is a recipe for madness in short order. no, imo, it would just _never_ work, full stop.

[@sdrc92126]

@@mattrex8599 The uber sublime elite forcing this should be a clue to their real motives. Groucho Marx, Hiller, Mo,a Polpot all pawns

[@drstrangelove09]

communism will never work

[@nickgoesvestmode]

"Dad, I was interviewed as an expert on a TV show today!" "Yeah? How much did they pay you?" "Um, Nothing" "I am democratically voting you out of this house!"

[@altal2993]

This is why teaching history is so important. Communism was tried in many countries after the revolution in Russia. It's has failed everywhere. His generation knows nothing of the cold war, the ideological struggle between the west and communism. Just 1 hour with any person from Eastern Europe who lived under communism would change his whole world view

[@0ldSch00l13]

It wouldn't though. He'd just explain to them that it wasn't "real communism" they lived under and tell them about how the communism he's read about in textbooks would be so much better for everyone.

[@isaknoem5475]

Who decides what it means to fail? Is being subject to a U.S backed coup failure? Are the two fastest industrializations of all time failiures? Is lifting 800 million people out of poverty failure? Can you look at what was accomplished in Burkina Faso under Sankara and honestly say it was failure? Can you say the Yugoslav economy, for most of its life was a failure, when it's growth was so compareble to capitalist europe? What failiures attributed to communism and socialism can not be attributed to capitalism? Have capitalist countries not suffered through starvation and human rights abuses? Do people not literally die of preventable diseases in the most advanced economy in the world? Have capitalist countries not devolved into authoritarian shitholes? How has capitalism not failed, if held to a fair standard, when the wealfare of the west was built on imperialism, and is built on the horrible exploitation of the third world to this day? How has capitalism not failed when it is bringing us straight into an ecological collapse?

[@altal2993]

@isaknoem5475 Capitalism by every metric is a success. Nearly every major invention and innovation in the world today was born from the West. As a European I can talk to anybody from the old Cummunist states and they tell what a nightmare it was. And believe you say that's not real communism, yes it was, every one is an example of what communism ends up as. As for China, good luck arguing that's communism

[@gengiz80]

I guess China doesn't exist

[@denysvlasenko1865]

@@isaknoem5475 > How has capitalism not failed Just having capitalism as your economic system is not enough for success. If you are living under military dictatorship, having capitalism economy isn't going to make your life good (it only would probably make economy run not disastrously badly). For life not suck, you need: capitalism + democracy + political rights (freedom of speech and such) + separation of powers + technology at least on the level of early 20th century.

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

These discussions should be replayed in our schools.

[@drpeterboghossian]

This is the hope. Please share it!

[@roymarshjiujitsu]

It's weird how the "Working Class" he's talking about has the exact same political interests and priorities as an Oberlin "Studies" Doctoral student but not any interest in all the issues the people I know working Manual labor or Service Jobs seemed to be concerned about.

[@bhante1345]

Get's contradicted, asked to acknowledge his self contradiction, instead goes on to deflect and not reflect.

[@mikebetts2046]

I work for a guy who started out as a fairly ordinary working Joe. He then had an idea and backed that up with lots of mental energy, work, and worry. He took on a lot of risk. He is now wealthy and he deserves that reward. He did something that few people seem to be capable of doing and now I and many others who work there benefit from his investment.

[@dennismenace4188]

The voting age should be raised to 35. People like this young guy need the time to live in the real world and come to the place where they realise that they've just been espousing an ideological fantasy that is ridiculous.

[@benjaming.2218]

Why should the voting age be raised to 35?

[@MR-el2ym]

I've heard this argument a lot that 'young people are not living in the real world', I honestly want to know why you think this. I don't agree with everything the hard left says, but I became more socialist after I had worked a few jobs in the 'real world'. Working conditions are terrible, beyond atrocious, corporations will replace you in a heart beat... trying to find a decent job and live a normal adult life under capitalism has been impossible for me.

[@dennismenace4188]

@@MR-el2ym why is it impossible for you and not for others?

[@benjaming.2218]

@@MR-el2ym it’s true, but most people don’t realize that. Raising the voting age to 35 will exclude hundreds of thousands of voters that our elected officials represent. Bad idea. 👎

[@denysvlasenko1865]

I have a much better idea. Age restirctions for voting should be abolished; instead, ONLY net tax payers should be voting. If 15 year old paid taxes - please, do vote! If 40 year old welfare queen never worked a day in its life - NO!

[@PonyboyGarfunkel]

The Hammer and Sickle on his publication amused me. Is there any better example of failed communism than the Soviet Union?

[@sdrc92126]

The Hammer and Sickle is originally an Islamic symbol🤔It predates Islam even, but they do share much ideology

[@PonyboyGarfunkel]

@@sdrc92126 Oh, well, I took a shot. I'm feeling particularly curmudgeonly this afternoon.

[@sdrc92126]

@@PonyboyGarfunkel I didn't mean anything, it is just an interesting coincidence

[@yaeli_i_guess]

probably calls gaza a genocide but has mao posters in his room, like that other idiot on youtube

[@ToMBrlcKeR]

Imagine the chaos of the ability to change leadership on a whim. Our House members are voted on every two years to serve such passions while Senators every six to curb such vacillation of public sentiment. You think populism is bad now, one couldn't live in such a society. I still go back to Thomas Sowell's Conflict of Visions between the unconstrained and constrained visions and how the worst forms of government believed that mankind could be made anew, the unconstrained, rather than the constrained understanding that people have different wants and needs and it is through compromise that we can function in society.

[@jamesespinosa690]

TLDR: "I think theres a bunch of rich people controlling my life. Therefore, I want to gang up, and steal all their money and wealth, and dictate to them how to run their businesses"

[@MeeseManyMoose]

"tHrOuGh oUr lAbOuR!" My goodness.

[@yaeli_i_guess]

OUR is a big word. this guy never worked a day in his life.

[@ZKSProductions-qc1d]

woah that's a good point

[@PeaceFrog1]

Wow, the beauty of letting someone with different ideas speak! It's refreshing to see that and it's a great example of respectful dialogue (even though one person spoke most of the time). This makes it possible to truly engage with and understand ideas, and to recognize their potential drawbacks. His acknowledgement of Peter's openness, curiosity and lack of malevolence in the end gives hope. Maybe some of this young man's colleagues or even followers and other college kids will also recognize this instead of shouting "hate speech" when someone doesn't agree with their world views. Thank you Peter 🙏, I've learned a lot from you and other Street Epistemologists, and more openness and willingness to question my assumptions has made my life so much better and richer.

[@Pwecko]

Such foolishness.

[@stephensmith7122]

Paid the least, know the least.

[@grippercrapper]

Students do not produce the value of the university. They are the consumers of the value that the faculty and staff produce. How could one get that so wrong?

[@dilloneliassen9622]

If the more physical labor you do, the more valuable you are, than Sisyphus would be the most productive laborer ever.

[@CarrollGomez-u5o]

Success is not built on success. It's built on failure, It's built on frustration. it's built on fear that you have to overcome. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in Life

[@DanHulings]

You're correct!! I make a Lot of money without relying on the government. Investing in stocks and digital currencies is beneficial at this moment.

[@AllenSohn]

My advice to everyone is that saving is great but investment is the key to be successful imagine investing $8,000 and received $42,700.

[@CarolineNiven-v7j]

Making money is the plan and with Bitcoin your plans can be accomplish

[@SalvadorCastle-j7p]

I really appreciate Mrs Clara Flint influence during this global pandemic Lock down

[@ScottHardison]

Same here, I'm blessed only. God knows how much I praise her, £32,000 every week! I now have a good house and can now afford anything and also support my family, and never will I forget to pay my tithes because God has been so faithful to me and my family

[@Joker22593]

When would they work if they were debating all the time? I've never been more against voting in my life listening to this guy.

[@williamsaling9648]

Anti-patriot. Best way I can describe his type of conditioning.

[@carlsanders7824]

There is hope for this guy. He is intelligent and not emotionally unhinged. Often times, life experience will bring him around. At least, with such people, one can have an intelligent conversation without all the histrionics and threats.

[@illuminatiCorgi]

I appreciate that he is dressed for the part.

[@lawsonharrison6927]

I can't wait to be a contributing member of society via artistic basket weaving.

[@bhante1345]

Used tampon paintings are the most elevating.

[@PianoDentist]

If you market it as "artisan" basket weaving, you could make a small fortune!

[@ianmcgeehan4627]

If "workers" had the wherewithal to be more than they are, they would already be.

[@nickgoesvestmode]

"I had to move back in with my Dad" Great. I bet Dad had to start drinking again.

[@blindfaith8777]

I really appreciate it when people are willing to share their ideas in a manner like this. I strongly disagree with him, but now I know a little more about his beliefs and arguments.

[@XekTOr89]

Man, this channel is so awesome. Thank you for making these videos, Peter!

[@ryanlavallee5609]

This is eerily similar to ideas like the ‘green new deal’ federal jobs guarantee (which Kamala supported) and the WEFs Great Reset which they call ‘stakeholder capitalism’.

[@sdrc92126]

You know the history of he ‘green new deal’, don't you?

[@Upticks36-v2u]

Private property should be abolished “You first”

[@0Akeldama0]

Things have been getting more unequal at the same time that we have become more socialist. When we were more capitlist, we could afford a household on a single income with a car and maybe a vacation, and your family raised your children.

[@sdrc92126]

Read the 10 planks of communism and see. It's only 10 lines long

[@GeorgiaJunkman]

This guy unironically, basically told everyone “ Arbeit macht frei”.

[@svenhans662]

None of these people would be considered proletariats, they are all Bourgeoisie.

[@Chris-voluntaryist-freedom]

You have to negotiate for your wage or it’s arbitrary. I negotiated for my wage at my very first job as a dishwasher.

[@isaknoem5475]

Your wage will always be lesser than the value you produce, even if you negotiated your wage to be higher than the standard. You still negotiated with an "arbitrary" wage as a start point, workers are price takers(not sure if that's how it's said in english as I'm norwegian) even if you managed to negotiate a better deal than usual.

[@mnypit]

People like this always tremendously overvalue the “work” that the “working class” does. I bet he’s all for open borders but doesn’t see how that drives down wages. He clearly has zero basic economics knowledge. Who creates more economic wealth, the guy digs a foundation with a spoon over 3 months or the guy that shows up with a machine and finishes in 3 hours. This guy would argue the spoon…

[@OnimenoJason]

Yeah I was thinking when he was talking about wages not keeping up, "I bet he is all for open border migration." And then he said migrants. Like you said, he doesn't understand economics.

[@sdrc92126]

It's weird. When I was in college, everyone was against libertarians because open borders (a main libertarian platform) would drive down wages. They also said the republicans were going to flood the US with people from Mexico to agin a permanent voting bloc. Probably because of Reagan. Who knows I'm probably insane and am only imagining this

[@microsoftpain]

well, this is why you always hear that Hayek quote being thrown around: “If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists.”

[@allrequiredfields]

And he thinks companies like Apple just magically arise in communist utopias, when inspired companies like that come from highly driven, ambitious people who would have NEVER 😮put in the kind of effort that was needed to start something like Apple, if they knew that monetary success was never even possible.

[@gengiz80]

Your comment doesn't disprove the idea that the worker still had to use the machine in order to do sobering valuable. Socialism does not mean not being productive. China for example has shown how powerful socialist ideas can be.

[@scolexuk]

If he thinks that banks "create wealth", he doesn't even understand basic communism.

[@JonMurray]

I was interested to hear what he had to say but unfortunately it became apparent very quickly that he hadn’t even played the concept through its initial stages let alone to completion in a functioning society.

[@albeon81]

When he said he had to move back in with his dad I lost it.

[@danielmcdonnell99]

Be careful what you wish for, young man.

[@tenitri5023]

13:10 You heard it here first, folks....manual labor under Communism guarantees you happiness!!!

[@erikkovacs3097]

Arbeit macht frei.

[@mattelswood9367]

I worked in hospitals for two decades. The workers making the best decisions for themselves… where does that leave the patients?

[@gengiz80]

Probably better than leaving it up to rich CEOs

[@mattelswood9367]

@@gengiz80 only if you believe CEOs opened an envelope one day and poof as if by magic… I am inclined to believe they got there by virtue of years of strong performance and service

[@gengiz80]

@@mattelswood9367 the ceos got there by years of prioritizing profit. I'm more inclined to believe that on average workers would make better decisions for everyone.

[@hankhooper1637]

​@gengiz80 apply that to school teachers during covid. At one point, the head of the teachers union was like we are not opening schools again until you can guarantee no one can catch covid. They were definitely doing the students wrong. And they might still be doing it remotely if the union bosses had their way. Individual teachers might have made really good decisions but the people who represent them will never consistently work for the best interest of the students because their interests do not always align. Whereas the administration attempts imperfectly to work for the best interests of both the students and the teachers.

[@fatmonkey4716]

​@@gengiz80 I notice that you just ignore things that hurt your narrative instead of doing the work to face criticism in a productive manner.

[@spinsecondserve]

So great you have this guy on…Pete is still teaching!

[@NathanLGrossman]

I disagree with almost everything the Communist guy says, but at least he's willing to have a civil, fairly rational discourse, unlike many of the woke people that Boghossian interacts with.

[@calebcase80]

Tribal leaders should run society

[@garrickditlefsen1653]

Don't they already :p I mean if you count the top 500 wealthiest families, that own more than everyone else combined, it is a clan based system

[@1337bitcoin]

This guy is clearly smart. He has a lot of knowledge, yet zero wisdom. Really highlights why the young are liberal and the old are conservative.

[@siggyincr7447]

I think you're giving him too much credit. This guys seems to be a hero in his own mind and a failure to the rest of the world. How old is he? Maybe in his late 20's and still going to college and had to move back in with his dad. I know it's possible he just ran into hard times by no fault of his own. But listening to him, I'd wager he falls in to the unemployable category of people who can't hold a job for longer than a month or two.

[@deathbysloth]

Anyone who says "workers" that much has no concept of how actual blue-collar people think

[@christianhall3034]

If not Jeff Bezos, who created Amazon? 😆

[@HebrewHammerArmsCo]

I was out of home at 15.. Retired at 46.. I can assure him, I worked .. When I wanted to learn Tool & Die, I worked a graveyard shift, then went to a toolshop at 7-30 am... then home at 4 pm. slept.. slept till 10-30 . out the door to start at 11pm. Did that for 4 years.. When I went to study Explosives Engineering.. Same thing all over again.

[@gtrdaveg]

Sooooo.... universal suffrage. Got it. If only somebody would implement that somewhere...

[@joer9276]

The level of ignorance that this guy exemplifies is astonishing!

[@anynimus1617]

sweet Summer child.....

[@veronicatrakal9399]

I admire your impassivity!! I would die of a heart attack while listening to such dangerous and retrograde ideas. From Argentina, thank you!! My husband and I always exercised with our kids critical thinking. The best gift you can give to them. They are bright and not afraid of saying what they think.

[@gengiz80]

Argentina poverty has skyrocketed. I guess this libertarian ideas don't work after all

[@veronicatrakal9399]

@@gengiz80Yes it has skyrocketed on the last 20 years, mostly in the last period of the highly corrupted leftists. It's impossible to reverse such a catastrophy in a short period of time. But, as always, the leftists have a huge problem doing the maths

[@vitorfrota940]

Ah, communists. The flat earthers of economics. Gotta love the way they fail at the most basic levels of the subject they pretend to know without even noticing.

[@gengiz80]

I guess you're going to have to ignore china or if you want to discuss capitalists countries with socialists policies like europe.

[@vitorfrota940]

@@gengiz80 Ah, communists. The flat earthers of economics. It's really funny the way they think China, a country with free trade zones, relies on communism to produce stuff. Even funnier when they bring up northern European countries, consistently ranked some of the easier places to make business in the world, as "socialists". By the way, did you know that Sweden got the most billionaires per capita in Europe? They better get going with the whole "abolish private property" thing to really start to take off. That's precious

[@eab83]

As a Swiss, who lives in a Direct Democracy, I can understand some of his criticisms of Western Democracy in general. But he seems to only have mentioned his preferred type of democracy resulting in the people deciding things which he seems to be for - Leftists policies. I would have loved to ask him "And what if a community, town, city, State or country decide by vote to NOT choose Green energy policies, or to close the borders and/or deport illegal immigrants etc... would you still stand behind your democratic utopian vision?". We Swiss are very well acquaintanted with Direct Democracy. It is not for the naive and fragile - those are the types of people who erode that rich and powerful democratic reality.

[@garrickditlefsen1653]

Yes, democracy has consequences but those are the costs of having a voice. It is better than this charade we have now. The government should do what the people will, whatever they will, even if they wanted to nuke themselves

[@NterpriseCEO]

I think the idea is that over time - not initially, but over time - people would naturally fall in line. Taking your example of green energy policies, a sizeable chunk of the world understands the effects of climate change, but likely feel helpless. Yes, not everyone would agree on everything, but there's plenty that people agree on in theory, but get hung up on the semantics of how that would work. E.g. nearly everyone (communists, socialists, social-democrats, conservatives etc) want to eradicate poverty, Leftists aim to achieve this through the redistrobution of, conservatives wish to do this without subsuing capitalism. Again, a concept everyone agrees on, but the execution is where we all disagree. However, I do believe that under a more "worker-oriented" society there are plenty of things everyone would agree on. Salaries for example. I doubt many people would willingly vote agains living wages if given the opportunity.

[@erikjuarezdk2367]

My dad is and has always been a communist. And my mom a socialist. They are educated and has worked hard their entire life. Coming from a poor background from two different countries, nothing about them or their politics are evil or without reason. I've been to countless communist parties and events and have gotten a good perspective of what communism now or days stand for.. Just like capitalism gets a bad rep in some countries, communism gets a bad rep in other countries. That being said.. I have a different perspective on the world than my parents.. they are very old school, narrow minded in their views, while i've learned to pick and choose the way, I want to look at the world.. from my own perspective.. I could never have a conversation with them about this stuff, I think. So having these conversations are important even though people dont agree with each other.

[@bhante1345]

No one, not one single man should hold power over you, communist, socialist, capitalist alike.

[@smw1193]

So everyone decides everything for everyone because everyone knows everything about everything always and will make rational decisions every time... have I got that right?

[@bhante1345]

Does this guy even know how to mix cement?

[@microsoftpain]

nope. nor has he had to pour cement or ever get his hands dirty.

[@sdrc92126]

That was my first job. It sucked. I had to shovel it up scaffolding after that.

[@Username-nu8el]

The fact that he thinks workers care about BLM or reparations tells everything you need to know about this guy

[@irenecronin]

Well bless his heart. Did this kid even contemplate the instability and cost random elections on a whim would create? While its certainly not perfect (as it involves humans), no other economic system in the world has moved more people out of poverty than capitalism. It always starts with 'no no we're only going to abolish private property for the elite' and then ends quite differently. He has not studied world history nearly enough nor has he earned the wisdom to speak on any of this.

[@johnnyecoman9121]

Marx agreed with you. Capitalism has lifted people out of poverty. And yet it also creates poverty.

[@TheVeganVicar]

🐟 22. ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNANCES: UNLAWFUL DOMINION: In the preceding chapter, it was proven beyond any semblance of a doubt, that an actual, patriarchal monarch (that is, a genuine, saintly king, as defined in that chapter) is the only class of human who is qualified to rule a nation, just as lesser societal units (such as nuclear families, extended families, clans, tribes, villages, towns, and cities) are best governed by their respective patriarchs. Therefore, logically, any system of administration OTHER than one controlled by a naturally-arisen patriarch, is inherently evil, wicked, illegal, illegitimate, criminal, and adharmic. Also, turn to Chapters 25 and 26, in order to learn the reasons why the concept of “matriarchy” is not only adharmic, but downright farcical! SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM: SOCIALISM is a political and economic system of social organization, in which natural resources, property, and the means of production are owned in common, controlled by the collective public, but typically, by a cooperative, the state, or the government, as opposed to private ownership by individuals and/or business corporations. Socialism is based on the notion that common or public ownership of resources and means of production leads to a more equal society. It is a stage of society in Marxist theory, transitional between capitalism and communism, and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. Hence, COMMUNISM is an extreme form of socialism that strives for both social and economic equality, something that can never be achieved, since true equality can never ever exist in the ontic world. Socialism (and communism) is best defined in contrast with capitalism (or to be more accurate, with free-market economies), as socialism has arisen both as a critical challenge to capitalism, and as a proposal for overcoming and replacing it. Cf. “capitalism”, in the Glossary of this book. Socialism/communism is INTRINSICALLY evil, because it is based on an ideology of both social and economic egalitarianism, which is a practical impossibility, if not a theoretical impossibility. Equality exists solely in abstract concepts such as mathematics, and arguably within the atomic and sub-atomic realms. Many proponents of socialism argue that it is purely an economic system, and therefore, independent of any particular form of governance. However, it is inconceivable that socialism/communism could be implemented on a nationwide scale without any form of government intervention. If a certain number of persons wish to unite, in order to form a commune or a worker-cooperative, that is their prerogative, but it could never work in a country with a large population, because there will always exist entrepreneurs desirous of engaging in wealth-building enterprises. Even a musician who composes and records a hit tune, wants his song to succeed and earn him substantial wealth. As mentioned above, although socialists and communists maintain their ideologies to be purely ECONOMIC systems, it is very difficult, if not outright impossible, to divorce them from the political sphere, because socialism depends on a governing power to organize society in a very meticulous manner. In any case, assuming that socialism is nothing more than a form of economic organization, simply for the fact that it disallows any kind of free-market exchange (the latter of which is objectively moral - or at worst, amoral - see Chapter 12), socialism and communism must not be imposed on any community, society, or nation, according to the principles of sanātana dharma. At worst, socialism/ communism is a truly horrific, tyrannical, totalitarian, murderous regime, that leads to untold pain and misery, due to certain dogmas that are intrinsically associated with Marxism, particularly a ferocious hostility towards all things dharmic, especially the freedom of religious practice. Witless Marxists enjoy using the terms “capitalism” and “imperialism” in rather INACCURATE and emotive ways, in order to emphasize their supposedly-wicked natures. I would wager that the main motivation for Karl Marx’ (as well as the multitude of vassals to his caustic ideology) hatred for free-market economies, is simply out of envy for the business class. There is very little doubt in my mind, that if Herr Marx and his evil acolytes, had somehow found themselves with a healthy bank balance, they would have invested their financial resources in some kind of profitable enterprise, such as establishing a business or investing in company shares or stocks, rather than distributing their wealth among the poor masses, which would be more in keeping with their inane, egalitarian principles. If you think otherwise, then you are truly deluded, and think too highly of that parasite, Marx, who, for his sustenance, solicited funds from his friends, instead of earning an honest living as a writer. Socialism reduces individual citizens to utilities, who, in practice, are used to support the ruling elite, who are invariably despotic scoundrels, and very far from ideal leaders (i.e. compassionate and righteous monarchs). Those citizens who display talent in business or the arts are either oppressed, or their gifts are coercively utilized by the corrupt state. Despite purporting to be a fair and equitable system of wealth distribution, those in leadership positions seem to live a far more luxurious lifestyle than the mass of menial workers. Wealth is effectively stolen from the rich. Most destructively, virtuous and holy teachings (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) are repressed by the irreligious and ILLEGITIMATE “government”. The argument that some form of government WELFARE programme is essential to aid those who are unable to financially-support themselves for reasons beyond their control, is fallacious. A righteous ruler (i.e., a saintly monarch) will ensure the welfare of each and every citizen, by encouraging private welfare. There is no need for a king to extort resources from his subjects, in order to feed and clothe the impoverished. Of course, in the highly-unlikely event that civilians are unwilling to help a human in dire straits, the king would step-in to assist that person, as one would expect from a patriarch (father of his people). The head of any nation ought to be the penultimate patriarch, not a selfish buffoon. DEMOCRACY: DEMOCRACY is almost as evil as socialism, because, just as the rabble favoured the murderous Barabbas over the good King Jesus, the ignorant masses will vote, overwhelmingly, for the candidate who promises to fulfil their petty desires, rather than one who will enforce the law, and promote a wholesome and just society. Read Chapter 12 for the most authoritative and concise exegesis of law and ethics, currently available. Unlike socialism, in which wealth is stolen from the rich and distributed to the poor (with a “little” bit extra for the ruling elite), democratic governments frequently steal money from the working-class via the taxation system, and distribute it to the already affluent, often indirectly. Even in the miraculous scenario where the vast majority of the population are holy and righteous citizens, it is still immoral for them to vote for a seemingly-righteous leader. This is because that leader will not be, by definition, a king. As clearly and logically explicated in the previous chapter of this Holy Scripture, MONARCHY is the only lawful form of governance. If an elected ruler is truly righteous, he will not be able to condone the fact that the citizens are paying him to perform a job (which is a working-class role), and that an inordinate amount of time, money and resources are being wasted on political campaigning. Furthermore, an actual ruler does not wimpishly pander to voters - he takes power by (divinely-mandated) force, as one would expect from the penultimate alpha-male in society (the ultimate alpha-male being a priest). The thought of children voting for who will be their parents or teachers, would seem utterly RIDICULOUS to the average person, yet most believe that they are qualified to choose their own ruler - they are most assuredly not! Just as a typical child fails to understand that a piece of sweet, juicy, nutritious, delicious fruit is more beneficial for them than a cone of pus-infested, fattening, diabetes-inducing ice-cream, so too can the uneducated proletariat not understand that they are unqualified to choose their own leader, even after it is logically explained to them (as it is in this chapter, as well as in the previous chapter). And by “uneducated”, it is simply meant that they are misguided in the realities of life and in “dharma” (righteous living), not in facts and figures, nor in technical training. Wisdom doesn’t necessarily correlate with intelligence! No democratic (or socialist) government will educate its citizens sufficiently well, that those citizens will acquire knowledge of how to usurp their regime. To put it frankly, democracy is rule by the “lowest common denominator”. One who requires the services of a brain surgeon NATURALLY seeks the most qualified physician to perform the operation, so logically, we ought accept the sovereignty of the most qualified man to rule over an entire nation (a genuine king). Furthermore, true democracy is impossible in practice - see the entry “democracy” in the Glossary of what is, by far, the most important work of literature ever composed, this Holy Scripture, “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”. ANARCHY: Cont...

[@irenecronin]

@johnnyecoman9121 Theories are grand on paper as are spoken ideas, what counts are the results in practice. No other system has raised more people out of poverty as capitalism, this is an objective fact. Marx's belief that communism will eventually progress to a point where the state is no longer necessary is so far beyond ignorance of human behavior that it is astounding. Communism works great within a family, and occasionally within a small community that shares a strong religious or ethnic bond, but on a national or worldwide level of different people who lack those strong binds it is unworkable and nothing but utopian dreams. We can start to institute communism right after we eradicate human nature, until then you will have the same corruption and oppression under communism as you do now only the names and faces will change... because humans.

[@gengiz80]

You're ignoring the millions of Chinese that were taken out of poverty on China and the millions in soviet Russia

[@TheVeganVicar]

@@irenecronin Do you use any of the following (somewhat euphemistic) terms? • gay • homophobia/homophobe • transphobia/transphobe • trans-sexual • transgender • Intersex • cis gender • sex worker • African-American • capitalism/capitalist • any gender-specific pronoun other than he/she, him/her or his/her Then CONGRATULATIONS - you are (either knowingly or unwittingly) a silly shill for the loony left!

[@stevegooch1776]

The teachers pushing this ignorance should absolutely lose their tenure. Any "teacher" that is actively pushing the demoralization that Yuri Beznemov warned us of 40 years ago, should be doing some other form of labor that isn't indoctrination of the youth.

[@Chris-voluntaryist-freedom]

Democracy is a pack of wolves voting what’s for dinner, but at least the sheep got to vote too.

[@jon123xyz]

Revcoms strike me as culty. They describe their founder in near worship ways. They are also not shy to burn sh*t down despite this man's academic demeanor.

[@metapills]

This is the weak man who creates the hard times.

[@AbraCadaveric]

He was full of it, but so nice at the end!

[@Deepfake820]

You can never have conversation with those who just want to preach at you

[@duarteleonardo8352]

At least he's not being an asshole, and tries to present his viewpoints without being aggressive, despite being completely delusional about the reality of what he stands for.

[@faismasterx]

I didn't hear any preaching. He was presenting his talking points.

[@Deepfake820]

@@faismasterx presenting talking points as a monologue in some diatribe that only requires the intelligence of a parrot is not a conversation

[@HaziumH]

He needs to be reminded on the fact that we are not just a democracy, we are a constitutional republic with democratic processes.

[@Pwecko]

Workers don't create wealth.

[@kerriecu2]

But without the workers the wealth couldn’t be created.

[@Phoenix-Cloud]

@@kerriecu2 Technically wealth is an imaginary thing that relates to your observed value to others. The more value you have the more wealth you have. The more needed you are the more wealth you have as an observation from others. If you are good at something but no one cares about what you are good at you have low wealth. If you are good at something that others want they see you as having more wealth. That is basically what money is, just a promise that allows you to trade with others for things you need from them. Workers don't really create wealth, the need to trade for goods from others creates value and having more value than others makes you wealthy. TLDR Money is created by just needing a way to assign a uniform value to all things and wealth is created by having more value than others. The problem with communism is it makes people with more value frustrated because they basically have to do harder work for the same value making them not want to do the work which leads to things falling apart when no one wants to do twice the work for the same pay. It is a great system for the weaker people because it increases their value while hurting those with higher value. It isn't really a bad idea in theory with everyone doing the best they can and everyone gets the same reward but in reality it will never work because no one wants to put more work in for the same reward.