SoD Phase 4: Say Goodbye to ALTS - Season of Discovery

[@NOHITJEROME]

It almost feel like Phase 4 has too much content, do you agree?

[@spk._]

yes i feel overwhelmed already

[@richardaveling3226]

Make rep bind on account... it's seasonal

[@sticknbox6157]

phase will probably be 4 months long, so plenty of time to enjoy the content

[@Chamiie.12]

Finally we have content so im happy

[@peterkrueger4531]

This is what happens when people complain there is not enough content

[@mattk38918]

The reality is that most players will need to set personal boundaries for what they will and will not grind in p4 and on which characters. It isn’t easy for most WoW players to recognize that this is ok (myself included), but it’s been done many times in the past. Look at TBC back in the day, where most players needed to choose a main char to grind attunements on and accept that their alts would likely be used for farming profs, kara, and some lightweight pvp. Having lots of content options for players to choose from allows for players to choose what works best for them and keep the world feeling vast, however it will require players to make that decision rather than forcing Blizz to choose for them. That said, I hope basic mechanics for alts (like runes and some emerald faction items) are made easier to attain, due to the seasonal nature of the server.

[@NOHITJEROME]

tbc is a really good example. the attunements forced players to focus on one character. and yet the experience for most was very positive. i think you are onto something there. maybe pushing us to have mains for 3-4 weeks then add in some easier catchup with rep etc. or account wide attunes..emerald items etc like you say

[@chrisarnone8704]

They just announced MC will just be a 7 day lockout so

[@NOHITJEROME]

good change imo. still 7 raids a week is a lot

[@chrisarnone8704]

@@NOHITJEROME yea for sure I imagine kazzak and azuegos you won’t need but maybe 1 piece from if that

[@A_Goat]

​@chrisarnone8704 World bosses do also have a good drop rate for some top-tier recipes.

[@chrisarnone8704]

@@A_Goat oh that's hella nice! but still you only need 1 person with the pattern and in all actuality you donit need anyone with them as you can find the craft in trade chat

[@redtiga3001]

More content and the same content 5 times are not the same thing.

[@aeroblizz1987]

Players: We want more content! Also players: There is too much content for alts!

[@NOHITJEROME]

i know it sounds ridiculous when you put it that way lol but the modern mmo business model has these drought periods where there's no content followed by a boom period where they get everyone back in. its not gonna change anytime soon but smoothing it out wouldnt be crazy

[@aeroblizz1987]

@@NOHITJEROME ye true mate! I was just trying be sarcastic. I think its possible to have a lot of content and be alt friendly. One thing retail does well with all the catchup mechanics. I think with classic we need to be careful though with catchup mechanics, it takes away the feeling of the 'journey'. But some minor things would be fine imo, since sod is experimental and not classic classic. One simple example is the rune where you have to kill all the Dark Riders around the world. I would not care if that rune is one you do once and unlock for all alts.

[@zoonal-gg]

Don't worry he finds something to bitch about every video.

[@sdwone]

WOW players are simply IMPOSSIBLE to please so... 🤷‍♂️ Anyway... I'm sticking to Hardcore... Nice... Easy... And enjoyable!!! Even though the game is brutally unforgiving 😊 But at least you can level as many alts as you like, at a nice chillaxed pace 👍🏼

[@Mengeneful]

what content ? are dumb or shill 😂😂😂

[@LemonEatingKow]

I feel like if they did anything less, then people would have said "P4 dead on arrival I am raid logging week 2". A lot of people wanted SOD to be their 'full time' game. This will be great. Excited to feel overwhelmed with choice.

[@NOHITJEROME]

yeah they had to overwhelm us with lots of new content. its like a husband bringing his wife flowers after working a lot lol

[@justinmiil5389]

SOD will be dead by end of Aug

[@Mengeneful]

it's already dead 😂😂😂

[@alvodin6197]

@@justinmiil5389 For people like you, who play 8 hours a day?

[@Jasdoer123]

Yes, there is A LOT to do in P4. But having this much content will probably mean that you can go different directions for gearing. Some will go R10, some do the T0 questline, some will craft and some just farm gear in dungeons.

[@NOHITJEROME]

what do you think ppl will do first? i feel like it's the 0.5 questlines. which i've somehow never done. need to start prepping/researching since apparently they are expensive

[@Jasdoer123]

@@NOHITJEROME yeah probably. The updated t0.5 looks good. But I wonder if its worth the hassle compared to random offpieces

[@Mengeneful]

there isn't it just recycled shit

[@Jasdoer123]

@@Mengeneful omg they use classic content for a classic inspired seasonal server. How dare they

[@NOHITJEROME]

@@Mengeneful all wow is recycled at this point. retail does that, its hard to be original

[@dflowers6771]

if theres enough things to do so that all of your time is soaked up by a single toon, then thats a GOOD THING

[@NOHITJEROME]

ya it's the opposite of p1 where it was very alt friendly and some players complained you couldn't focus on 1 character. now it's very much that 2004 1 character design again

[@Mengeneful]

there is no enough things to so came shit cycled over and over

[@clintzervos1948]

I love thay theres all the new content i think jts a good thing, gives people lots of stuff to do ! That was the problem before nothing to do but incursions and ST

[@choocharoo]

July 11...nice...so basically 2 weeks till raid and OH WAIT...2 weeks till TWW PrePatch...RIP. Blizz is just plain dumb for having 2 of their products compete. Bad Bad Bad timing on this release. Sadface.

[@NOHITJEROME]

ya they do that on purpose so at least everyone is subbed i think lol. nice value for money at least

[@hvdiv17]

blizzard made it easy for me not to play.

[@NOHITJEROME]

was it the amount of content hvdiv? or the balancing

[@Masquerademasque]

account wide reps should be standard for seasonal

[@NOHITJEROME]

i like it but its very retail. one idea also would be acc wide tarnished coins. so you get them on 1 char you can use them on another. means you can pick any character to play on anytime

[@TankingPriestVideos]

Is it like that on retail?

[@dmasiodnmiod]

@@NOHITJEROME very retail? Retail has never had account wide reps, that's apparently coming in the next expansion but it's taken 20 years lol. Account wide reps does nothing but let you play more alts should be ZERO push back against that.

[@jonaya9944]

Wtf blizzard. Easiest addictive fix ..random drops with random stats and at least 7 sets. People woild be forced to play non stop like gambling. Diablo style loot. How hard is it to make a game fun?

[@NOHITJEROME]

that sounds like something they'll do at some point. it's such a no brainer but kills some of the wow classic nostalgia doesn't it?

[@Skyr0_69]

You'll do all your lockouts get bis in 2 weeks then twiddle your fingers on what to do....Alts. Game dies in 3-4 weeks.

[@NOHITJEROME]

true. but then bwl hits and then aq and maybe a new raid they cook up

[@thomasbatson2340]

I think this viewpoint is incorrectly assuming what WoW is… If there is little content for one character then there is little content for alts (alt friendly) So if it takes one character a ton of time to achieve whatever it is you want to achieve, then it will also take an alt a ton of time as well…, imo that is why the game is being played, not so we can do the same minimal steps on multiple characters but so that each character has the chance to be enriched in whatever new paths are afforded to us by the devs.

[@NOHITJEROME]

this is a good point. we all want an mmo that gives us meaningful progression. thats why i liked runescape so much. it's not a bad thing wow is going that direction

[@InnoV8Official]

Yeah it's too much... I won't be playing. It was much better when it was simple and alts were doable. This is ridiculous. People have jobs and lives outside of wow.

[@NOHITJEROME]

the problem is in p1 the complaint was the game was forcing alting because there wasn't enough to do on 1 character. now it's the opposite. middle ground is very difficult

[@InnoV8Official]

@NOHITJEROME I agree. But I liked the simplicity of p1 2 and 3. It gave us time to play other games as well. Now it's too much and most of us just don't have time for it. 20 man's already hurt raiding in SOD. Add all this in.. and idk, seems like it's gonna make it crumble. Lots of complaints rolling in already.

[@whoo2975]

Ridiculous indeed. I am courious who's SOD's target audience? I bet blizz have data show some info like '3 real play account can bring 20 bot accounts'.

[@thechosenone2596]

the "All or Nothing Fallacy" Fallacy, People think theres an obvious "middle ground" but there isnt and theyre better off going balls deep one direction

[@remyot80]

I mean you don't HAVE to do every single piece of content every week. Why are people acting like they are forced to lol

[@NOHITJEROME]

the modern mmos feel like you have to do everything. maybe im just susceptible to fear of missing out

[@Pinnucle]

im fine with the content overload. I like the idea of wiping out world buffs in any way they are zero fun to get

[@NOHITJEROME]

yeah i agree a new solution for WBs would be amazing. they are definitely fun to play with..but getting them is another story

[@redtiga3001]

Easy fix. Make rep and coins BoA. Literally problem solved.

[@NOHITJEROME]

the coins being boa would be incredible. then you can pick which characater you fill dungeons with but still be working on alts

[@johnweber7960]

once again Blizz developers trying to force players how to plat WOW

[@NOHITJEROME]

pushing us in a direction just makes sense from a business perspective. can focus the dev resources etc. i understand why it happens

[@dmasiodnmiod]

They need to make all reputations account-wide. Ffs.

[@NOHITJEROME]

i agree but its not really classic. i dont know the best solution

[@zakfuji6303]

Won't be playing P4

[@NOHITJEROME]

what's the biggest reason behind your decision zak? sorry to hear that

[@Hifcrea]

Ya you will you incel

[@remyd8767]

That's good everyone having all nine classes it's kind of annoying

[@NOHITJEROME]

ya it doesnt feel like classic. but at the same time farming on a priest is miserable lol. very motivatd to have a hunter

[@presidentdonaldbump150]

Rank 10 was done by me in half a day, just like av rep. Half a day to both get max. gtfo man.

[@NOHITJEROME]

yo that's insanely good, how did you push that much honor? im getting maybe 50k a day right now

[@presidentdonaldbump150]

I had 600k honor at the end of the week.... I just Q ed av on day 1 hitting 60 and all Av s lasted 5 min and I won 99% of games as horde on lonewolf eu.... its not good, it feels sad....:(

[@christophlangbehn2695]

Make the World tour tokens account wide and rep aswell .. would be a huge improve

[@NOHITJEROME]

i like it. might be too retail. acc wide attunements at the very least

[@christophlangbehn2695]

@@NOHITJEROME True. would be good agreement

[@Titanarrow2]

Someone is complaining about having too many things to do ^^.

[@NOHITJEROME]

its more a point about the boom/drought cycles of modern mmo, we get either no content or insane amounts of it. never a middle ground where we get it all the time

[@sloth-inspace7419]

make reps account wide (or have an automatic catch up mechanic that triggers for characters that have lower reputation than the highest rep held on your account) , make the tarnished coin account wide - that would make the phase more alt friendly to begin with. World bosses should be similar to WoD where they would respawn every 15 mins and had a universal tag + personal loot. Then we could focus on dungeons, pvp and raiding without feeling like our alts are being left behind.

[@NOHITJEROME]

acc wide reps feel very retail but the tarnished coins being account wide would be incredible. i love that idea because it lets you play any number of alts that fit best for the situation. id be swapping between 3-4 characters

[@weirdodude1173]

I never understood why they made some runes such a pain in the rear to get (thanks, Greenfield). It's just even worse trying to get them all on alts. Thumbs up for great videos.

[@Elbruhman6456]

Wish Lava Lash could transfer to Wild Growth or Crusader Strike

[@NOHITJEROME]

they really need to allow for transfers at this point lol. how is lava lash pop wise?

[@Elbruhman6456]

​@@NOHITJEROMEhorrifyingly bad. There's not enough ally players to do dungeons.

[@TankingPriestVideos]

How is Lava Lash pop these days? only have a 43 mage there.

[@JustinSable]

I dunno if I'm gonna do the rep farms on my main, let alone an alt, lol. At least there's a crap ton of content to do, no more raid logging for sunken temple. ^_^

[@NOHITJEROME]

no more raid logging is the best thing. ill probably focus on ranking over reps. you going to aim for r10 on any chars?

[@JustinSable]

@@NOHITJEROME Oh lord no, I'm a casual player, haha. Only PvE content here ^_^

[@Ktisgone]

I MUCH prefer this style of content. Having a lot of stuff to grind out on 1 character is much more akin to vanilla. I like having a main. Making alts, well, alts again and not completely finished characters is better imo. Also it is a nice safety net against FOTM rerolling. As someone who played alliance in SOD, the amount of shaman fotm re rolling that happened made me never want to queue up bgs, nearly every single one was MINIMUM 3 shaman, with the highest I saw being 8 of them in AB. Complete clown show.

[@NOHITJEROME]

yeah the big complaint in p1 was that it was all about unfinished alt characters and fotm rerolls. now you are getting the true 2004 style with 1 character focused on. nobody fotm rerolling at least once july 11 hits. right now EVERYONE is trying to figure out whats overpowered lol

[@Hifcrea]

Ya I agree I get a bit overwhelmed when I have 5-6 char at level cap. Feeling pride in one main becomes difficult

[@whoo2975]

SOD was a nice try. Phase 4 is like a brez on main tank. Just going to check the gameplay if new raid coming and call it. Pvp going to get way worse. Huge amount of grief is coming. 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@NOHITJEROME]

a brez on the main tank feels good but then the raid wipes anyways? lol

[@whoo2975]

@@NOHITJEROME likley, but it could also means winning the fight. My point is on- going phases of SOD are going to be tough sells. Which is sad.

[@whoo2975]

@@NOHITJEROME I am sure bilzz has prepared SOD players great designed content to work on in phase4. But I dont have to tell you that complains will always come along. After hype wave (if any), more complains follows, let alone a predictable worse-off pvp sitution.

[@whoo2975]

@@NOHITJEROME But I like your work. Even SOD is a lost cost, yet you still put effort and creative ideas on this topic. 👍

[@OliverMagnusson-u2v]

I thought they said the dungeon tokens were gonna Drop once per day, not once per dungeon. Maybe i missed the logic here xD

[@TankingPriestVideos]

You're not the only to be confused they initially badly worded it.

[@NOHITJEROME]

once per boss makes the most sense, unless it turns out these are chaos orbs

[@NOHITJEROME]

still enjoying the priest tank videos, i like the new threat item. getting some creative build ideas

[@spiderxjz]

They reverted the mc lockout to be just once a week now!

[@NOHITJEROME]

i saw that, it's a good change. was getting some gnomeregan on 3 characters flashbacks there lol

[@spiderxjz]

@@NOHITJEROME you and me both!

[@NOHITJEROME]

i'm motivated now to do an ele shaman on top of disc priest. 2 characters seems perfect. what will you be playing spider?

[@Chamiie.12]

@@NOHITJEROME For me, I still cant decide between druid tank and shaman tank...

[@smnk064]

Good thing I decided a long time ago that I will only play a single char in P4 😂

[@NOHITJEROME]

which char will that be? im maining priest here

[@smnk064]

@@NOHITJEROME going for my mage (heal) really enjoyed raiding with it, haven't missed a single ID since created, was originally planned as an alt

[@bigbigzubra]

Just about to get my ALT ready to go for Raids/Arenas in CATA. Guess I’ll get back to getting my main ready for P4 in SOD. So much to do

[@NOHITJEROME]

what are you going to do first? i'm doing incursions (lol) and leveling an ele sham. gold is nice to have

[@TheWideMurloc]

I don’t have a problem with the higher selection of raids to choose from personally. For people who lack self control, which, to be fair, is most wow players, (and let’s not ignore WHY they do. The subscription requirement pressures players to always be trying to get their money’s worth out of each single moment, and it’s a big reason I think it needs to go) I understand they’ll feel like they have to do all the raids each lockout, but I don’t think the game should be designed around that mindset. What I do narrow my eyes at, though, is the faster lockout reset schedule. I guess mop remix was testing this kind of change by having its raids be daily resets, but that didn’t feel overwhelming cuz the power scaling made heroic raids feel like a normal dungeon. A daily mop remix world tour didn’t take you much time. But you take a faster lockout schedule with the much more normal scaling of sod where you’re actually DOING the raids? THAT sounds overwhelming

[@kalive]

Great video. I would say over 7 raid lockouts your maybe spending 4-5 hours doing them per week. Even with the gearing up process your going to be raid logging on 1 character in about 6 weeks, where as if they had less lockouts and content it would have been 3 weeks. After about 6 weeks your going to have plenty of time to get those alts caught up and with no more leveling by P5 it will be more alt friendly.

[@NOHITJEROME]

hi kalive, definitely a good point that 4-5 hours doesn't make it seem so bad. that's pretty much how much i spend in cata right now. the difference is in cata you aren't really forced to rank, it's a safe bet a lot of gear will be locked behind AV and ranking as well. but i hope you are right on p5, a very alt friendly bwl / zg would be perfect

[@MikeDawg69er]

Your such a drama queen here we are not even 1 week nearly full shadowcraft kek. alts are all lvld through incursions to 53 building rested. All the rep gear sucks xD if ur the main Raid Enchanter, Blacksmith etc then u shud be getting rep. Alts dont need that shit just get what u need from them lol

[@NOHITJEROME]

hmmm..i see your points my friend. but you are missing the fire res element as well, a lot of top guilds are stacking a 2nd set for fire res for heat level 3. i guess i am thinking in that mindset. ultimately lvl 50 gear will clear the lvl1 version but heat lvl 3 will be another level

[@MikeDawg69er]

@@NOHITJEROME Alright watch this space lmao

[@tesla3695]

the change back to 1 week lockouts is good for sweaties but bad for everyone else.

[@NOHITJEROME]

its gonna be a good change i think. 8 raids a week was too much

[@johnweber7960]

yup dont do incursaons no rep grind.....

[@NOHITJEROME]

no incursions now they got removed and changed to dailies in p4

[@Fatesmaster]

This is too much of a shift from the past 3 phases. Phase 1-3 was all nontent every phase was too long. Each phase 1-3 should have been 3-4 weeks at best before phase 4 and now 2 lockouts a week for raids while adding 2 new raids with world bosses, plus all the other content is too much. I'm really excited for phase 4 and the thought really has me wanting to play it. I feel like phase 4 is what I was hoping for in many ways out of SoD, it's just taken way to long to get here. And my guild died in phase 3, most of the players aren't coming back for phase 4. All my parses are high 90s so I could find a guild no problem. All that said, I'm done with SoD if they had not spent so much energy wasting our time with phase 1-3 I would be so down. And the classes play too much like retail wow, they don't have a classic feel anymore. The game is set in classic wow but it no longer feels like classic. So for now im unsubbing and ill be back when the next Seasonal server drops. FFXIV has a new expansion dropping right now, and that means new raids and a new ultimate to prog soon. Actual hard content to deal with for a change, as much as classic wow is my home, the raids put me to sleep, i need a little elden ring in my raid bosses. I raid while watching anime on my other monitor and still parse 90s ffs. Thanks for the content as always man, keep it up brother.

[@leakyTF2]

bro kicking gnomes i subscribed instantly

[@NOHITJEROME]

ty the gnomes didnt like it but im glad you did

[@presidentdonaldbump150]

Canceled my sub, sod team is trash 100%

[@NOHITJEROME]

what can they do to get u back? they want max playerbase

[@presidentdonaldbump150]

@@NOHITJEROME Make new pvp rewards that take more than 1 day to grind. Give a way to give pvp players a gold income and quit the Av pve trash....

[@shelly6482]

Just want to PvP without the grind.

[@NOHITJEROME]

hmm..av spam all day and night?

[@NordicPlantLover]

Phase 4 hypEEEEEEE!!!!!11one

[@NOHITJEROME]

very excited nordicplantlover. is your avatar swifty lol

[@R3ar3ntry]

Jerome i love your v ids! but here's my take on t he alts, vs raid l-ock out system, imo people who have multiple alts (including myself) have way to much time in the game, either that or there's not enough content on mains, I would much rather have 2 raids a week mc, aq, naxx etc so my main can do the content and steam roll it, and for the small few people who can do all of that and manage an alt, then that is good for them (myself is included in here). I'd much rather have too much on a main that have to cater to an alt

[@Rin-eg7fn]

20 man raids killed my guild :/

[@NOHITJEROME]

you would still be playing if 10mans? i felt that way at first, but lost my grp in gnomer

[@MikeDawg69er]

Lmao ive got 7 ST geared 50s, i have every profession. ive got sleeping bag and carrot on every toon. Ony takes like 10 mins, Azure and Kaz gonna be easy as fuck lol, We're going to see people like me with 7 toons on a Wednesday doing 7 Onys in a row. All of those raids probly only drop 1 decent item per spec anyway. If you went off an played cata then maybe ur alts are behind and this applies but if ur a SOD andy like myself this is all good news. We dont play other games because its the meta. Lots of players like me who have played since vanilla, been there and done it and watched retail turn to shit, watched classic hit cata and turn to shit. We are only here for SOD and nothing else, this is our Classic Plus.

[@TheDarthpsi]

The thing that I HATE with a passion is pointless rep grinding aka killing furbolgs for 24h + just to get a recipe, if they are bringing more of it, I'm out, I don't just want the rep to give better stuff, I want it not to be time consuming and boring like it usually is. It always feels like a horrible waste of time. One of the main reasons you make alts is for more professions, this need would be reduced if they gave you 3 (or more) profession slots instead of the regular 2.

[@enso.nauvoox]

Is it just me or aren’t we really getting anything groundbreaking new, other than the Eruption event? I mean yes, there is updated gear, world bosses and a new dungeon, but It still feels like they still lacked a lot of creativity. With the millions they have, they should be able to come up with some more exciting things than just repeating the same content over and over again? I’ve never done ST, since I didn’t want to just stick around for that raid in P3, but I heard that there is a boss that swaps every week for another? Wouldn’t it be fairly easy to have some more variety in the upcoming raids to have such a system? More bosses or mechanics inside to keep it kind of random and interesting? With certain exciting and unique loot? Or even some fun side activities or mini games? To bring people together and keep them entertained if they don’t feel like raiding or redoing the same dungeon 10 times a day? I don’t know, it still feels a bit bland and just a tedious sweat (rep) farm to get your set together, just to do it again when the next raid comes out.

[@thomasdye7503]

To be fair we dont know the level of entry for MC or the heat levels. As far as we know you can do MC as a fresh 60 and Heat 3 will be nothing but BiS needed. And if you have issues with how you might need to rep grind and do multiple world bosses a week to do higher heat levels then keep in mind then the content wasnt made for you. It would be like if a retail player who only does Raidfiner and Normal mode complained how they cant do Mythic raid on one or more characters without putting in the minimal time. And if your mindset is "I need to do every bit of content as fast and as much as I can" and call yourself a casual player, I'm sorry your not a casual player.

[@andrew2616]

Guys, the content is optional. Most of your pre BiS gear you can leverage with ST. The other items are such a minor upgrade it’s not even worth farming unless you are bored. It’s not as bad as you think

[@vestivideo8548]

The "completionist" mentality needs to go...anybody that isn't pushing for BIS and parsing and maxing literally everything is called a filthy casual...bro you can have alts and guess what, you can set your own goals in the game. Everyone needs to stop feeling like they have to be #1 at everything...because you aren't and never will be. Just relax and enjoy the game

[@NOHITJEROME]

yo i get that. it'd be nice to approach the game with a healthier mindset. but part of being really invested in these games means you end up with a personal stake in them. easy to get fomo

[@booquwifius5510]

phase 4 is dead cos phase 1 failed. classic isnt fun

[@NOHITJEROME]

p1 was a success im not so sure about p2/3. will have to hope for good things

[@booquwifius5510]

@@NOHITJEROME phase 1 failed because it went on 2 months longer than it should have. 70% of the player base was either gone or raid logging

[@tobid1971]

Ohhh nooo ..we have so much content ...we actually have something to do in the game, what a shame ..

[@NOHITJEROME]

well there's a risk we follow that up with 4 months of dead silence. i get it's the modern mmo business model, but it has risks

[@tobid1971]

@@NOHITJEROME I see the change with the split lockout as critical , as one month in the phase everybody is through with the world bosses and then its again to one-time per week raidlogging for most players.

[@Mengeneful]

there isn't it just recycled shit

[@brandonwalker5011]

I swear no matter what blizzard does people complain. Also I already know people with 2 characters at 60 in no way will alts be dead and having lots of content in the endgame can only be good what else would you want from a subscription game?

[@ebossnz6838]

I think alot of people are not getting what people are complaining about with content. Its because its a seasonal league. So its timed. Its better to have quality over quantity. With blizzards rep quality isnt there best area

[@Nokkturno]

@NOHITJEROME Its a good thing that the team already changed their minds over the backlash, lockouts will be the same. Only thing with twice-weekly lockouts will be the world bosses. Please pin so others can know.

[@NOHITJEROME]

hi nokkturno, i see the change, i edited as many lines in the video to reflect it. still 7 lockouts a week is a //lot//. but that might only be 4-5hrs

[@gaskina13]

I can see alot of people quitting including myself playing SOD and even just wow in genera..l Im not a fan of cata or retail and classic fresh just isnt for me atm might cancel my sub after almost 4 years...

[@NOHITJEROME]

it's really hard at this point. classic fresh is the most appealing idea on paper but i want something new with it. sod is trying a lot of ideas, some will stick, some won't. i think the next seasonal fresh could be what brings you back

[@grozoth1]

Good that I leveled geared and proffed up 5 alts. Now it´s all for nothing. THis is horrible News and is tilting me very hard to be honest.

[@matthiasjames6308]

So much yes on the currency buying buffs. Would rather play the game than wait at a flower for 18 minutes...

[@Xius_Games]

The two lockout per week is what's killing alts more than anything for me. It's such s fucking bummer. Give us weekly lockouts for everything instead of this live on sod shit

[@NOHITJEROME]

they made MC 1 lockout a week now thank god xius

[@enso.nauvoox]

Just wait a bit till after launch till they nerf all the grinding. I learned my lesson already, the people that grind their ass off early will regret it later on (exception of P3 incursions), since they will make things easier to obtain. Think about the Waylaid rep, Ratchet vendor, XP boosts etc.

[@NOHITJEROME]

yeah within a month they will have some huge xp boost from 50-60 on top of the 50%. no question you are right about that lol

[@happsie1354]

Blizzard really cant win, can they? No matter what they do they have people like you b1tching about it

[@BackyardPvP]

Rather play cata for easy pvp can be casual and then save energy for war within just hope the nerfing and buffing doesn’t happen as often as dragonflight , like twice a week sometimes just too much

[@NOHITJEROME]

ya cata is really nice right now raidlog/pvp when you want..very chill. WW will be good as well. nice thing is there is a lot to play if you are a wow fan. sod is just one of 3 choices

[@djodjekg81]

What,no a.v,Q 😂

[@NOHITJEROME]

djodjekg81 av queue will be nonexistent for horde at least :D

[@christiansmith7065]

I mean the bosses will be instances but I feel they along with Onyxia count as a “raid”. You can crank out ony in a few minutes and that’s even for casuals. I’m stoked to have one toon to just get everything done on

[@NOHITJEROME]

speak for yourself i remember 2019 ony with pugs taking like..4 hours lmao

[@kyeema-of-the-shadows]

just get rid of world buffs why farm for pre raid gear when level 50 epics are as good as level 60 rare dungeon items

[@bentobul5932]

Alts are not meant to be played when new content is out. A month or 2 into the phase it will be back to raid logging mainly until a new phase, you’ll have plenty of time for your alts then.

[@NOHITJEROME]

fair point. p1 had alts the 2nd week. this phase will have it within a month. i suppose that isn't a big difference

[@HelloJTello]

Get me in there coach! I know it's not perfect but I just want to get in there and see for myself at this point.

[@NOHITJEROME]

ptr is live id definitely recommend checking out the blackrock stuff if you get bored waiting for p4. pretty interesting dailies over there, and we saw kelris in one of the caves and he dust to dusted us lol

[@user-tr3wg7qd6h]

hope you feeling better now bozo! ❤

[@NOHITJEROME]

this p4 news cured all ailments i can sprint and jump like an 18 year old now

[@chandler1409]

Not everyone plays for endgame.

[@NOHITJEROME]

true. but most do, don't they?

[@peterdemint7195]

@@NOHITJEROME wow has always been carried by the casual majority. not sure about sod but its likely the same.

[@berkertopaloglu911]

you level up or grind alts if you have time to do. if game has a lot content you wont have time to do it. why cry about that i dont understand?

[@ffarkasm]

I don't mind at all. I've never been keen on playing alts anyway. I always liked to invest all my time and efforts in a single character.

[@NOHITJEROME]

yeah im much more into 1 character runescape style. just interesting to see the shift after p1

[@mjjw.8982]

Im class that MC is weekly... Im on vacation from 20.7 to 7.8 :D

[@adamnunes5482]

Too much too soon, indeed. They could of had us been 60 doing things before raids already instead of dead p3

[@NOHITJEROME]

i am really excited for p4 but the way they stack content is a biiiit outdated imo. we will have a long period of silence before p5 too. still they are doing a good job

[@donmattimus2776]

No matter what Blizzard does you try-hard fanbois will cry. Seriously, I am not a big fan of phase 3 but no one is playing anymore because of lack of content. Everyone have BIS gear, some on several accounts. Why is it so important to hit every single lock-out? More content, more lock-outs. I like it. I am not going to care if I miss a lock-out, I like the idea that I do not have to level another character because it’s so time consuming and i only enjoy the end-game not leveling. Overall pretty hyped about doing a lot of Dungeons, raids and who knows maybe some extra fun will pop up

[@NOHITJEROME]

hmm..i am happy with new content. doesnt the mmo model of 2024 feel outdated though? content drought followed by 20 things followed by drought again

[@aussieraver7182]

I love you

[@NOHITJEROME]

ty aussieraver my feeling is positive towards you. hope you are having a good weekend.

[@jamescpalmer]

P3 - Blizzard pls, there's not enough content. P4 - BRA

[@user-tr3wg7qd6h]

i said goodbye to alts a couple phases ago lol

[@NOHITJEROME]

ya classic endgame is not that alt friendly. come to think of it i didn't play alts in 2019. though most players do have multiple lvl 50s now

[@mililanirosas3888]

So phase 1? lol

[@codywatson9627]

just a few months ago ppl were wining about not enough get over it, there are what 6 max level dungeons and wrath is 13 lol the world tour is much less taxing and you dont need to do it for tier like wrath it is optional

[@NOHITJEROME]

ya fair, it's just the periods of inactivity followed by giant amounts of content. it's the modern mmo/service game business model. but could it be slightly outdated?

[@karimathras5752]

Me and the new guild I joined to tank for ended up quitting for P3 because it got extended, we found it to be very boring but we are returning for P4. Even though previous phases were alt friendly, I still couldn't find myself to be bothered with doing any alts beyond leveling casually here and there. I'll be sticking with tanking on my paladin because that's what I enjoyed doing and wanted to experience in a lvl 60 classic WoW setting. For World buffs, I think they could add an NPC you talk to where they grant you the buff whenever you talk to them and then you can boon them with the chronoboon displacer once you have all your appropriate buffs. This would solve the world pvp buff griefing imo too. I don't know if I will pvp grind to be honest. I did try to bring myself to grind rank 7 in P3, but I really just didn't have the drive to do it and stopped at rank 5. I don't really care about pvp and rolled on a PVE server anyways specifically to avoid wpvp buff griefing since I am more of a PVE andy. Kudos to everyone who does the grind though. World touring doesn't necessarily bother me, most players nowadays play a lot better than how people played back in the day, I still get amazed by some of the new things people do and bring to the table for speed-running and pushing content along with the amount of theorycrafting and min-maxing that happens in the class discords at times. Fight club in particular during 2019 classic was probably some of my fondest memories in all of my time playing WoW. Best case scenario is that it's successful and stays well above water. (I honestly would love to experience 40 man Naxx in SOD since Naxx 40 is one of my favorite WoW raids of all time) Worse case scenario is SOD crashes and burns at phase 4, which if it does...there is other games to play in my free time anyways.

[@NOHITJEROME]

hi karimathras - glad you are returning for p4. it's definitely going to be a good time tanking on the paladin, you get to be one of the first ever to do it at 60. as for world buffs, i love the idea of an NPC selling world buffs. ie you kill 3 dungeon bosses you get 1 world buff token. as for the pvp grind, the question will be whether the gear is required for pve. i don't see them adding resil, so I'm curious what the stats will be like. i'm glad world tours don't bother you, frankly I look forward to doing all the dungeons with the boys. there aren't really other games to play other than elden ring for me. just going to have to lock myself in the basement for a while lol

[@karimathras5752]

@@NOHITJEROME DUNGEON GRINDING WITH THE BOYS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO! That alone just got me a lil hyped right there.

[@carelesscribo3072]

eyyyyyyyyyy great video not just some lame ass reaction video like the other lazy ass content creators keep it up.

[@NOHITJEROME]

id do the reaction videos too if i could make them faster lol. i have to think 2 days ahead because my editing takes so long (rip)

[@needwhippin]

didnt they just recently say its not going to be 2 lockouts a week now?

[@NOHITJEROME]

everything is 2lockouts/week except mc now

[@spaceglide]

I'd think the worldbosses will be so easy you can just pug them and skip lockouts if the gear isn't worth it

[@NOHITJEROME]

yeah fair point. OR we get magtheridon level world bosses. feels like sod is going the way you said though with the difficulties outside the extra MC loot modes

[@Keykeykadee]

Why dont they make a quest where you collect all the world buffs one time in a boon and bring it to Chromie or something. She then stores them and you can purchase them going forward with the currency from dungeon boss or the bew event. You can either run around and still collect them if thats your thing or purchase them. Maybe even a daily quest to go run a specific dungeon gets you a reward you turn into Chromie. Thoughts?

[@Keykeykadee]

Make the turn in to chromie a weekly quest that resets each week. You have to collect the WBs only 1 time each week.

[@NOHITJEROME]

it's the best idea. i love the initial step of collecting them. and i love getting them from the vendor. and i like that you still would would get all the benefits/negatives of WBs. i think players would be happy

[@NOHITJEROME]

i like that a lot. preserves the concept without it having to be a chore to get wbs every 3 days

[@Keykeykadee]

@@NOHITJEROME I've been trying to share this on the forums and Twitter and reddit but who knows what they'll do

[@NOHITJEROME]

@@Keykeykadee it's a really great idea. at the very least you promoting that idea opens the door to more creativity with WBs. every raid lockout, a new set of WBs is available from chromie. costs ie 5 tokens + 1 chronobooned buff of some type that rotates. so every week its a different buff you have to bring her

[@plantseeker5829]

Not coming back to sod cata is way too fun but still gonna watch your sod videos🤗

[@NOHITJEROME]

yooo plantseeker im glad you are enjoying cata. outside raiding what have you been up to? i still need to get into rbgs

[@budgybottom75]

It is definitely going to be very very difficult not only levelling and grinding on my 6 alts, but definitely feel will only have main time for all the things for one maybe 2 alts to get to raid status with. Depending on the levelling grind and how long that takes. Will be able to get them all to 60, but doing the raid content, definitely less.

[@NOHITJEROME]

hi budgy, 6 alts is insane. i will do 2 characters at first. i think if you prequest now that's your best bet. can get all 6 to ~54 and then either blizz buffs leveling 2 weeks later or you just use rested experience on the rest

[@budgybottom75]

@@NOHITJEROME I may have an Alt problem haha That is a good plan :) maybe the searing gorge dailies will be a good amount of xp to smash out for alt levelling in the side :)

[@IILegend]

Just waiting for a classic fresh realm at this point

[@l09mcglm]

Stopped watching when u said all wow players are forced to do all the lock outs. Such a 0.1% giganerd take

[@NOHITJEROME]

its a mental thing though, do you ever see a guild willingly skip lockouts?

[@SaintDeezy]

how is it 7 raids per week im confused

[@NOHITJEROME]

2x kazzak 2x ony 2x azuregos 1x mc. was 2x mc but people freaked out lol

[@SaintDeezy]

@@NOHITJEROME oh thanks

[@aaroncopple6198]

#gnomelifesmatter....

[@aaroncopple6198]

There just little fellers. . .

[@NOHITJEROME]

that bridge is burned, theres no coming back. too much blood has been shed on both sides. no reconciliation with the gnomes is possible

[@NOHITJEROME]

they are the gollums of wow but have better PR teams

[@aaroncopple6198]

@@NOHITJEROME Gnomes don't need a big bridge, where the smallest bebble is, there's a way!

[@NOHITJEROME]

@@aaroncopple6198 lmao. you funny man

[@mjjw.8982]

Befor i Look this Video. Whaat? Im doing enhancer Shaman P4 to say fvk ele!. Warrior should BE my twink but im nervous now..xD im a dad and cant Play tonmuch ... Looks Like all in Shaman?:D

[@NOHITJEROME]

ele is god, im making an ele myself. need to level it first. you won't ever play it? looks good :D

[@mjjw.8982]

@@NOHITJEROME i mean i want to try 2h meme... If ITS Not viable then i Look at other Speccs xP

[@NOHITJEROME]

2h is the only way to run hand of rag so it's far less of a meme imo. everyone wants HOR Lol

[@Rezman-WoW]

Being able to purchase WBs is a good idea.

[@davidwillis5019]

SoD ON

[@NOHITJEROME]

you skipping it david?

[@davidwillis5019]

@@NOHITJEROME NOOO! P4 hype.

[@somerandomname146]

Phase 3 felt like it had nothing to do and now P4 will be way to much

[@NOHITJEROME]

yeah it's the boom/bust cycle of modern mmos. either nothing to do or way too much lol

[@ashtonmayfield9217]

Get good. Have a skilled guild carry your alts 😈

[@banjolanjo]

It’s perfect with a shit ton of content 🎉

[@HL-pu7hh]

Did you get alts on vanilla ? Exalted on reps ect (Alteracect)? I didnt. Classic isn't retail and that makes it epic . But yeah its gonna be quite a lot

[@NOHITJEROME]

it's a true point. there is just not much time for alts in classic. but sod was all about playing a lot of alts and for the first time players have multiple characters at 50. so it's different somehow

[@HL-pu7hh]

@@NOHITJEROME agreed ! thx for your vids btw :) !

[@NOHITJEROME]

@@HL-pu7hh thanks a lot H L, hope you are having a great weekend

[@akitos6413]

Sounds like a serious dad gamer issue.

[@BrandonGrubb-e9i]

Doing all 3 cata raids 11/13 h takes 2 sessions 1 2 hour and 1 1hour the next day

[@NOHITJEROME]

takes our guild like 8 hr and 8/13 atm aahh

[@BrandonGrubb-e9i]

@@NOHITJEROME time to replace some people in raid 😵