Soft Field Landing - MzeroA Flight Training

m0a.com It's not often that we get to practice a real soft field landing. In todays video I'll take you for a lap in the pattern inside an actual soft field landing.

[@lightsabr2]

That liftoff after touchdown: "Whoooo it's gusty" (Also me to my instructor trying to cover for the bounce)

[@crazylegsfd11]

😂😂😂

[@JS-ns8dr]

LMAOOOO SMART

[@noah5889]

lmaoooo

[@an6350]

lol "whooo it's gusty" is a good excuse in a lot of situations

[@taescrito9113]

Lolllll

[@jeraldkonkel]

My flight Instructor says to always do a soft field landing, even if the field isn't soft. Ever since he told me that, my landings have been getting alot smoother and more comfortable. Its nice watching your videos along side my Instructor's teaching

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Awesome - that's great to hear!

[@abbieamavi]

as a new CFI, your videos both in ease and production are goals! Used your content my whole flight training. God bless you Jason!

[@rudyberkvens-be]

Same here!

[@RaysDad]

I was taught not to idle the engine during a soft field landing until I turned off the runway. In other words, keep enough power going to keep the nose wheel slightly off the ground when the stick is pulled back.

[@jcrio9014]

Jason you should come fly here in the UK. Grass runway everywhere, it's your lucky day when you land on tarmac :)

[@MDFRfiredriver]

Another educational video. The carb heat issue well received. I’ve always used carb heat until completed TD or go around. Thanks!

[@burbankjim]

The last time I remember doing a soft field landing for real was during my private pilot training, about 38 years ago! I guess I am overdue.

[@grafkoks9959]

Hello. I'm from Poland. My Aeroklub only has grass strip 700m long. For me its much more easier to land on grass strip than on asphalt. Only hard thing is after heavy rain because than C150 controls on ground are like driving a boat.

[@davidlong3359]

Its so interesting to me the different types of flying people do. Backcountry is my favorite type of flying, I never considered that there's tons of pilots out there that have never or rarely done true soft feild ops.

[@tpsu129]

Was that a rock on the runway?

[@kurtkarjalainen8504]

doing my first one today

[@lonhaenel3030]

I start training short field and soft fields this week. My CFII recommended I watch your videos to prepare. Can’t wait to get started.

[@marsgal42]

Last summer: Hope, BC CYHE. First soft-field landing in my own plane. :-) I learned soft field technique on pavement in my flight training. Doing it for real, on grass, shows why it matters.

[@RacinZilla003]

Whereabouts do you fly? I'm based in CYXX, still PPL going for IFR

[@simauriveiro6340]

Ive never landed in soft fields, but i am working in that maneuver towards to get my PPL. Regards from Panama🤠🤟🏾🇵🇦

[@DMorningstar]

I can feel that gust by watching while Jason is just having fun in his airplane. Amazing.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks for watching!

[@CptShaquilleOatmeal]

Watching this video 20 minutes prior to my lesson for short and soft field landings thank you for confirming my chair flying is correct

[@MrDang079]

Love the Instruction in the video. Also love the drone shot. I'm interested in doing some shots like that. Wondering if there a camera operator in addition to the Remote PIC (like can be used with a DJI Inspire), mostly for that pan and follow part. Very Nice!

[@RealWoutLies]

For me, lifting off and staying in ground effect is a challenge. I want to get up and out. Practice practice practice.

[@danielbrantley6158]

My buddy from ACI and I took a 172 up to El Mirage dry lakebed in the CA desert a while back, we even brought our pistols to shoot on the lake bed but we could not land with that desert crosswind! Full correction in, landing the right direction and the wind was still changing direction, must have been 20 knots or so! Would’ve been macho if we did land lol!

[@delmarsimpson25]

I remember one flight with my instructor.soft field.landings. ae were coming in for a landing..was.flarimg waiting for those back wheels to touch ground..never felt them make contact how soft it was.....fluked it oit that 1 time...damn smooth....was on a runway

[@AeroRamer]

October 2012 - Soft/Short landing at Pierson, FL (2J8) Rwy 05 (2600ft) when it had the trees at the end of the runway. I think the trees are now cleared out. I got to go back and practice again.

[@xJonnybx100]

I have been blessed to be working at Triple Tree Aerodrome in South Carolina with a 7000 ft grass runway dealing with soft fields all the time. Makes landing tail wheel warbirds a little more forgiving than a black top runway hahaha

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

On my bucket list of events/places to go to

[@xJonnybx100]

I would love to get in contact with you and have you to triple tree! Its a great place with great people not to mention some amazing airplanes

[@sophiehoyt2839]

I love Triple Tree. I flew in there for the eclipse fly in last year. Now that I live back home in Oregon I'm so jealous about all the events I'm missing over there!

[@limbofilms_portland_oregon]

Thanks for all of your excellent videos..they are very clear, easy to digest and fun to watch!

[@PDZ1122]

"We don't need carb heat here.." Because ice will not form if you say that, right?

[@heregoesmike]

I thought the same thing! Super dangerous if a go-around is needed! I just did soft & short field training last week, and official documents state that no matter the circumstance, carburetor heat should be used when power is brought out of the green range while in flight. He also did not add full flaps... He did touch down very smoothly but full flaps is also a procedure for soft landings.

[@adamdargavel77]

@@heregoesmike he did say it was gusty, so perhaps why he didn't use full flaps

[@SteenPedersen]

Last time, it was my first flight ever to the little Danish Island Femoe, with a bumpy runway. It was fun to go there, eat a lunch and then back to the safe asphalt :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/npyynK2rgMqfi8Um41s

[@jenniferlehman9498]

i’m learning my first landings on a grass strip in a LSA!! It’s so fun!

[@frequenttravels1527]

Nice video Jason.. Did the last soft field on in May 18

[@an6350]

just did a real soft field landing a couple lessons ago. Idk if it's normal for soft field rws to be so lumpy but it was very bumpy... I did okay though :)

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks for tuning in! Glad you got to experience a true soft field landing, it can definitely be a bit different!

[@golfnovember]

Last time I did it was at F45 (North Palm Beach, Florida) in a Piper Super Cub, N156T

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Very nice!

[@craigobrien5098]

Every time I fly haha. All I have is a soft field

[@austinpierce8372]

A couple of weeks ago

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Excellent! How did it go?

[@JustinMorrison]

Thanks man! Great landing, well explained.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks for watching!

[@mousedevouredcat]

I land a few times a year at 49C. Big trees at one end and there was a phone cable at the other end. Somebody thought he was a Navy pilot... its a fun little airport

[@jeraldkonkel]

I live right by 49C. and I did a engine out maneuver there, but didn't land, my instructor told me to "go around".

[@michaelsingleton69]

I have never done a real soft field take off or landing. I hope to have the experience after I build some experience.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

It's definitely a great experience!

[@Ellexis]

Last year at 07R. Of course, last year was only a month ago. lol

[@WebbydooVT]

Ellexis gg

[@yosefkashani9470]

what is homie wearing on his wrist?

[@eugenya8]

Tomorrow. That's why I'm watching a video on soft field landings.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks for watching!

[@MrSam-db1vw]

Carb heat off/ protect that nose/ avoid breaking--- three rules you have to remember and keep saying it while landing, thanks for the tip

[@mikearakelian6368]

Used to land on the beach at virgin Gorda i the caribbean; over a rock seawall in an a BN 2 islander... Rolling t/ off on the beach

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hi Mike! Sounds like a very challenging yet fun opportunity, thanks for watching!

[@coleshvar]

Soft field landing ? When last time ? Everyday. What we have to be trained for is...hard field landing acjb.info/wp-content/gallery/lfpx/Verticale%20LFPX.jpg

[@diegomaga7464]

I just have 1 question, why are you using carb heat in this occasion? its because the weather or to precation with the grass that can block the intake port? happy landings!

[@thegeek3348]

My flight school doesn't allow because of insurance purposes. Not sure how that's supposed to work for the check ride.

[@mytech6779]

The planes I rent for lessons aren't insured for a planned soft-field landing. Unfortunate.

[@1shARyn3]

HOnest real soft field? 1973 :-) :-D Since then, all done on soft asphalt ;-) Any consolation, I was originally taught to fly off a grass runway

[@psyrixx]

Can see "roughly" where you want to touch down... on a rough soft field... I see what you did there ;)

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

hahahah

[@heregoesmike]

Can I respectfully ask why did you only use 20* flaps? The whole purpose of a soft field landing is to minimize weight on all wheels, not just the nose, while rolling out of the landing? 40* flaps would be better for that (It's in my flying school's training regiment). You'll get more float with full flaps, but it just makes for a way softer landing. Also, taking the carb heat off when out of the green range while in flight isn't advisable in the case that a go-around is needed. you'll get a very laggy throttle response if you need to snap to full throttle for whatever reason... That's just my opinion based on the training I have just done for my PPL. Would love your input @MzeroA Flight Training

[@russellburnup1939]

because of wind conditions, it was very gusty. What happens to stability when flaps are increased and in ground effect, is the aircraft more or less stable? Think about it.

[@astudentpilotlife]

I never been in a real soft field landing only simulated soft field

[@MAGApepe]

:)),, how much of effect does ground effect have? ie percent of increase in lift , lowering of stall speed? etc

[@an6350]

Everytime i try soft field landings (on pavement) the nose bounces down and back up and down... i dont understand how people keep it so smoothly u0

[@jean-christopheasselin1939]

really not intuitive but as you flare and pull the yoke, each time you pull on it, don't give any of it back. the plane is gonna stall an inch above the runway and the mains will touchdown. You still keep the yoke position and the speed decrease because of the ground contact is gonna make the nose wheel come down by it's down. Took me some time to beat my habits.

[@debug3276]

Do CFIs start feeling more comfortable in the right seat than the left after so much training?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hello! This depends on the person. Some instructors swap back and forth between seats and can feel equally comfortable in both. Some spend more time in the right seat and feel more comfortable in it. It all depends! Thanks for watching!

[@philconey11]

What about a soft AND short field landing? Balance of wheel braking and aerodynamic braking?

[@heregoesmike]

One should always be leery of fields that are both soft and short. Mostly because there are usually obstacles at the end of a short, soft field. If you somehow by chance get in there, god luck getting back out. (I was just trained that last week in my PPL training).

[@philconey11]

@@heregoesmike Many commercial operators fly into and out of short/soft fields. They're unavoidable. A short/soft field landing consists of protecting the nose wheel while applying controlled braking. They wanted you, specifically, to avoid short and soft fields because at the time you posted this comment you were a brand spanking new student pilot and there was a 90% chance you would damage the aircraft. I'm assuming that now, 11 months later, you're probably at least commercially certificated so you've done a soft field landing or two.

[@billflying2977]

Why did you leave so much runway behind you? Most grass strips are short

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That part I flew over wasn't mowed. They only keep about 4,000ft of it mowed regularly.

[@GonzaloHurtadoLemp]

Shouldn't we avoid Carb Heat on final in case of go around to have full RPM power?

[@Ichibuns]

You should turn it off on short final. On a long final especially, you want carb heat on until short final.

[@MagPencho]

Keep up the enthusiasm

[@davidgrier403]

I usually turn off carb heat over the fence. I was taught to use a little power just before touchdown.

[@ducktape1ful]

david grier Do whatever you have to do to make it a soft landing. If adding a little bit of power helps you accomplish this then by all means use it.

[@khumbibanda5753]

Amazing touchdown

[@theknifekid]

never have done one

[@Flyingiowa]

Good times

[@randomname4522]

Wow the drive footage was really cool

[@randomname4522]

Drone

[@miremadm]

good work!

[@andywakeman5958]

Let's see a short, soft, uneven field landing. I have yet to land on a grass strip that was anywhere near as groomed as that one. Just curious, do you ever operate on gravel strips?