Soft guy era: Reciprocity in relationships

[@lw8882]

This brings up a good point with the whole mgtow/toxic dating advice/alt-right playbook - that it's never about engaging in good faith. It's about "making them mad" and wasting peoples' time. The point was never for that creator or the commenter to have a discussion or make a point. It was to throw shit at the wall and wait till everyone around them got tired of cleaning it up after them, and declare victory when they're left alone by everyone who got sick of dealing with their bullshit. But then they wonder why taking that attitude to a romantic relationship results in abject rejection.

[@AD-dg3zz]

I really wish I remember which KZbin creator said this, but they aptly described that same phenomenon as "Urinating in your own mouth on the bus and then acting like you've won when everybody gets off at the next stop." Edit: I remember now. It was Some More News in their video on Conservative comedy.

[@lw8882]

@@AD-dg3zz That's so fucking good. Was it innuendo studios in his alt-right playbook series?

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@lw8882 if there was something to disagree with here, it's the idea that the manosphere isn't trying to make a point. Theyre doing it in the worst possible way, by arguing that people's outrage is an indication of greater truth, but there's a thesis statement in the vast majority of how the manosphere conducts itself

[@lw8882]

@@zacharybosley1935 It doesn't matter to them if they have a point or an observation in the first place. The entire goal is to make people mad and hate women. They will just invent the 'point' as a means to that end. If you argue against it, the point changes, and they act like that was never the point and you're taking things out of context and over reacting. The whole thing is a gaslighting grift. Is the point.

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@lw8882 I disagree. Moreover, I think trying to frame the manosphere in such a light only gives them more ground to increase the scope and scale of their grift.

[@bhitttourrent6127]

YES. They don't want those women, even if she were submissive, they'd resent her greater earning potential. They crave the coerced authority over women whom they can then complain about and blame. "Be my peace" is do not challenge me by having an opinion that is not in alignment with my own. Be grateful for what I deign to give you. Be quiet until I want something.

[@lazy-gyal0077]

I like that your wife buys you beach vacations and you appreciate them. It’s just so wholesome 😊

[@tharun7290]

Sidenote: I feel like this channel is a direct indicator of how the movement for healthy masculinity is slowly but surely growing in real-time. As far as I know this is one of the only ones I’ve stumbled across. You’re doing important work. Thank you

[@cde3788]

My partner pays a disproportionate amount of the bills, but I moved into his house and he said, he was paying that before, so his outgo do not go up. I pay for a lot of things that did go up, like groceries. I also do all cooking (he hates cooking) and most cleaning, but he works more hours. Since i am spending less on bills, I am putting more into retirement, which he will eventually benefit from. Also, I pay for nice trips for us. If you want a dependent woman, then you have to pay for everything and may have to support her for awhile after the relationship ends. If you want a woman that makes her own money, she is going to want you do provide emotional support and help around the house. Many relationship styles are possible. If you think some woman is asking for something ridiculous, don't date her.

[@alicec.6195]

Someone needs to tell that guy that lots of women are already providing for men. I've been there. And guess what, they are not grateful. They still cheat and lie.

[@PowerJade]

Fax!

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

to an extend where a term "hobosexual" has become a thing. women looking after perfectly useless pathetic men.

[@zacharybosley1935]

@alicec.6195 is this specific conversation, the idea that "the provider cannot be cheated on," has a few layers of gendered expectation to play with. Sure, the broad social context does prove that men are far more likely to cheat on their partners than women, but I'm not entirely sure the argument that 'just because someone provides for you, you shouldn't lie and cheat,' is a particularly useful lens to filter this conversation through.

[@zacharybosley1935]

Should "I provide for this person," be the reason that person doesn't cheat? Because I feel like there's a lot of previously-held, gendered expectations about who "the provider" should be.

[@18Hongo]

Interestingly, men seem to have the same complaint as women in this regard. "I provided for her, and she lied and cheated". It's almost as if infidelity isn't a gendered issue or something.

[@strawberrysangria1474]

I was hoping that "soft era" meant self-care and mental healing. How is living with no husband and a bunch of cats a bad thing again? You'll find more appreciation in the spiciest feral kitten than you'll ever find in that guy.

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

"b-but you need to take care of me or else you will be an old cat lady." did you know living with a man actually reduces womans life expectancy while increasing mens. funny that innit.

[@18Hongo]

Husbands don't generally ruin the sofa though. I can't speak to your experience, but when most men want to engage in pointless destruction, they just play videogames.

[@strawberrysangria1474]

@@18Hongo That is true, although I have seen some men (my uncles) that could ruin a sofa with some chips, some cigarettes, and god knows what else was on that thing. Pretty sure they did it while playing video games too.

[@18Hongo]

@@strawberrysangria1474 Well, that's what happens when you let them smoke in the house. I don't let my cats climb the curtains either - although to be fair, that never stops them trying. Ironically, leaving both alone would probably solve the problem in the long term, but that just leaves me with a dead cat, and you with a burning sofa and cremated uncles, so maybe the hands-off approach isn't the way to go in either case.

[@mtclauraamaral2201]

​​@@18Hongoyou are so wrong. Just by eating on the couch with no care or laying there with your boots on you can actively ruin a couch. I've had an ex bf lay nonchalantly on my couch fully coated in car grease. I'll take the cats.😅

[@reallyeasy100]

The ways in which they tell on themselves, and people STILL don't listen.

[@g.h.7661]

I can’t hear the phrase “hates sand” without having one particularly ridiculous movie monologue immediately begin playing in my head

[@FruitsChinpoSamuraiG]

i mean, it is rough and it does get everywhere...

[@Cauldron6]

Men will literally do anything but go to therapy, huh. Thanks for bringing this point to attention, really appreciate you pointing out the bull.

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@Cauldron6 therapy has not quite reached the point of escaping the masculine stigma against weakness. I think that there still needs to be more work in the social arena for guys, especially the staunchest defenders of patriarchy, to see reaching out to a stranger as anything but a display of personal fallibility

[@amberfuchs398]

Many abusers don't think they've done anything wrong, so why would they seek therapy.

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@amberfuchs398 also that. You gotta know you have a problem to treat it

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

​​@@zacharybosley1935Abuse is only a problem for the people the abusers abuse. Abusers don't hurt people because they have a mental illness or compulsion demanding they do it, or because of external factors like substance abuse or trauma. Abusers abuse people because it materially gratifies them to do so and they can. Abusers don't seek therapy for the same reason murderers don't turn themselves in and burglars don't return your stuff when they're done using it.

[@manifest2203]

And even if these guys want to ridicule the soft girl era, women are inherently more useful to those high level men which is why they spoil them. The best example is the relationship between Christiano Ronaldo and Goergina. She was simply working in a Gucci store. Then she bcame his gf and some years back I read that he gave her 100K allowance per month. In return she was his gf and also took care of his kids. She even had a few biological childrn with him. Her presence and companionship is highly valued by Christiano. Now she herslef is incredibly famous. She makes very good money. She even had a Netflix show. A woman with zero money and gets with a man is very useful for that man because she can have his kids and raise them well. So mocking women who want a soft girl lifestyle is ridiculous. Most men don’t reciprocate taht in soft guy lifestyles. I have heard of so many stories of provider wives who spoiled their husbands end up being sca6med. These men went on to have second families with the money the wife made. They spent the wife’s money on the new woman and their kids. One such example is Wendy Williams. Her husband had a second family whilst being married to her and had an aff6ir daughtr. Her mental health deteriorated so badly that she was filmed when she was drunk and stumbling on the streets. After the d6vorve he is living with his second family.

[@PowerJade]

All of this! So true!

[@skkadoot9533]

I’ve heard plenty and plenty stories of women who did the same

[@manifest2203]

@@skkadoot9533 oh really? Fun fact: mn are more likely to die about their kids in dating sites and elsewhere. Mn are also more likely to lie about being marr4ed and more likely to lie about their ag5e. More likely to have second families.

[@manifest2203]

@@skkadoot9533 oh really? Fun fact: mn are more likely to l8ie about their kids in dat8ing sites and elsewhere. Mn are also more likely to l8ie about being marr4ed and more likely to l8ie about their ag5e. More likely to have second families.

[@18Hongo]

These comments are full of women acting like "I paid for everything and was cheated on" is some feature of being a woman, another way that men^tm are just keeping the sisterhood down. In reality, they're just discovering what it's like for men in the same position. Welcome to equality - it's not all sunshine and rainbows.

[@scorpionmish]

Most of these soft era guys want a submissive breadwinner. Someone to pay all their bills, be their personal servant, and take their abuse while holding their head up high plus earning six figures.

[@JennyferPepin]

Pretty much xD

[@WandaRuth]

Yup. My abuser was like that. I'm now happily married to someone who doesn't think that the Soft Girl Era is bad and I spend my time doing astrology charts, reading Tarot,and baking

[@DL-idk]

And it’s them who complain about how *women ask for too much 💀

[@Johnny24-dl3ig]

Yep, that 's what we deserve cause we know our worth 💅. That's the bare minimum, drizzle drizzle

[@Johnny24-dl3ig]

​@@WandaRuthWomp wooooomp

[@zerotolerance2026]

“let’s keep making them mad”…..that’s their response to anything they don’t like. Very childish.

[@DelphineTheWorstBladeEver]

Men expecting reciprocation of princess treatment is wild. My man has never expected that of me. That's why I do spoil him.

[@vangu2918]

We keep telling them that they are being fooled by other men.

[@catsaresocute650]

It's ok for those men to want that relationship. You kind of can't mock someone with your desires for relationships, imo. Like ok you want that as a men? Go look to find someone to build it w. As long as no-one get's hurt, please do.

[@JessiD-111]

Exactly. But they don't really want that. They only want to mock women and thing they have to "humble" us.

[@skadi6750]

In my personal experience these men rarely aim for women who already are on the same page, want to serve the husband and have a kid. They actually repeatedly hunt for feminists. Cuz its not the relationship they want. A lot of them just want the "I told you so"-s. The number of stories when radical shapiroid or radical tatoid tried to "change" a feminist around me is kinda funny. And was sooo butthurt when he was kicked to the curb... One guy was so "brave", he dated a chick who has a nonbinary kid and then tried to push her to force the kid to change their gender. Of course she gave him a boot:-D Its her friggin kid and she is in some kind of parental nonbinary alliance herself. No idea what he expected. After her he tried for yet another feminist. Who was married. With kids. These people dont want what they say they want.

[@azurekutella3812]

Spoiler alert: when these men are provided for, they don’t put in the cooking and cleaning labor they’d demand if they were providing for a woman. They feel it’s beneath them.

[@A_Lion_In_The_Sun]

You can mock them, because what they want is basically a mother they can have sex with.

[@rickmel-q7m]

the problem is that they won't find anyone like that and will then proceed to abuse/mistreat the women around them

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

"women demanding ridiculous things from men." things like - wipe your ass after you take a shit - put your dirty dishes in the washing machine - dont leave your used underwear on the floor you know, basic stuff.

[@xysarenottheprize]

You’re asking for way too much, you hypergamous hag. What are you bringing to the table in exchange for all of that?

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@KossolaxtheForesworn is this an appeal to hyperbole? Those obviously aren't all the demands of the social contract, let alone a relationship

[@torcagenzo560]

Don't think you should even entertain this type of person as a partner in the home. Unless you into mommy/daddy kinks.

[@frazier6612]

@@KossolaxtheForesworn women demanding ridiculous things from men, like $500,000 salaries and top 0.1% looks, all while being a broke unemployed 5 with an art degree.

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@frazier6612 dude, how representative are those women of your average?

[@TK_Danes]

Men are so emotional, when theyre rejected. To the Patriarch: Thank you for being a positive male role model. Its hard work, but youre doing it, and its seen, heard, and admired. Just found you and subscribed, even though im not the audience who needs this. Im learning about men and the social conditioning. If i am to possibly raise a son, its a responsibility to prepare and comprehend his world My adopted son, is so sweet, kind and im glad he isnt red pilled. He loves his gf, and even at 16 they have these serious convos about where they have problems.

[@ClaraDarko]

"The Soft Girl Era" happened just last year? And how can it already be a whole era?

[@Thicken_Brob]

It's a modern expression, nothing more

[@stufftoexplore-o8g]

The chastity before marriage law sometimes comes with ED that no one knew about and that destroys the marriage or makes people miserable for years.

[@puschelgremlin1993]

Not sure what to think of this. I don't know the channels of the guys in particular. But i have seen some soft girl era content that I really dislike. Most of it is just self care but some videos just seem like a modern take of tradwife content, selling financial dependency on your partner.

[@malachitestorm]

kudos to your wife, it sounds so sweet

[@Nerobyrne]

Hates sand and doing nothing? Bro are you married to Anakin Skywalker?

[@skadi6750]

With her on that one. Cannot imagine having a week trip and waste it sitting on sand.

[@nadiac6439]

I get bored if all I did was sat around and drank all day for a whole week. I prefer camping and hiking adventures as vacations.

[@remnant1018]

Everybody has the right to like what they like and pursue the kind of person they are interested in provided they’re not doing harm and are being reasonable and respectful, but they do all parties involved a disservice if they are not genuine or are insincere. You should treat people as well as you’d want be treated, and if you’re not getting treated well, clearly end the relationship before doing the other person harm and moving on. If you feel like you’re being taken advantage of, it’s ok to leave. Thats a reasonable response. And if somebody leaves you for that reason, respect their choice and their boundaries, and let them leave.

[@akshayde]

Why is everything a movement these days when everybody talking about movement are almost always not doing any moving.

[@zacharybosley1935]

Oooh! I'm gonna need to take a moment to sit on this one

[@Mrsgmuller73]

"Childlike partners, so they can control them and later moan and complain their partners are dependent on them" 👏🏻👏🏻 perfect! They want a homemaker, but God forbid her to reject him based on the house he can afford.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

The way "soft boys" act speaks volumes about what they *think* a woman actually contributes in a patriarchal transactional relationship.

[@jessicatorres8159]

I do not understand your wife, beach vacation is paradise! 🤣🤣

[@elizabethmcintyre3680]

I would start by asking exactly what he means by “taking care of” a man. I’d guess, what he means is “do what you’re told.”

[@A_Lion_In_The_Sun]

I'm a single gay man, and thank goodness for that. The idea of a partner being dependent on me sounds like a nightmare. I'm an independent person, and I would want a partner who is too.

[@jasminejeanine2239]

This is what happens when men totally undervalue what women do. It's always about money with them. No, while I don't make a dime, my partner had almost nothing to his name before meeting me, thanks to him making poor choices during his divorce. However, now we own everything including a house and have tons of money saved up in only ten years. He's so much happier than ever before and all bc I continually do research and challenge his beliefs. It's been insanely hard work on my part and far more difficult than just working some random job.

[@BLZ231]

Okay, I’m going to be honest, this video didn’t make a lot of sense to me, mostly because I don’t know what a soft girl or soft guy era even means. However, my instincts tell me that I don’t actually want to know.

[@darcyroyce]

The same here... Im learning new things everyday..

[@manifest2203]

Soft girl is someone who expects to find a rich husband who lavishes her with an expensive lifestyle. Soft guys are also looking for the same. They want high earning women to look after them.

[@darcyroyce]

@@manifest2203 oh my god...!! And here I was loud and proud about my soft girl era!!! Wth!? 😭😅 No, I don't want to be a kept woman, not looking for a wealthy guy, and I am as individualistic and independent as they come. Still prefer the chilled, soft, sweet mindset over any conflicts, so I guess I am, but I'm not a soft girl, if it makes sense!

[@manifest2203]

@@darcyroyce lol. Don’t sweat it. Be yourself ❤️

[@BLZ231]

@@manifest2203 So it’s basically just a term for someone who’s looking for a sugar daddy or sugar momma? Then why not just say that? Soft girl and soft guy doesn’t sound like it would have anything to do with wealth or being given a lavish lifestyle, it’s just needlessly confusing.

[@Sc4recrow44]

While I don't disagree, I feel like the way you frame it kinda reads as "perfect queens get viciously mocked by misogynist assholes for no discernible reason whatsoever". The soft girl era thing was toxic to begin with. Because they were not simply stating their preferences, they were also mocking men who don't live up to their expectations. It's a petty response driven by a bruised ego, but it was provoked by an equally petty trend.

[@zacharybosley1935]

The Cycle of Retribution never ends, does it?

[@Khaegch-favh]

Grown brothers online provoking women? Sounds like a poor genetic pool. Mom should have exercised freedom of choice

[@zacharybosley1935]

"These guys shouldn't exist," eh? Is there a genetic predisposition to poor conduct somewhere?

[@thomascromwell6840]

​​@@zacharybosley1935He's talking about bad parentage, but for a person who is pro-violence against women and other innocents, you sure feel too safe.

[@manifest2203]

@@zacharybosley1935 yes temperament is said to be genetic too.

[@NoxAeterna-wf4iv]

@@Khaegch-favh I agree! 👍

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@manifest2203 are temperament and conduct the same thing? Are they even close enough to be in the same conversation?

[@NateWilliams-dn7nf]

I thought the drizzle drizzle movement was helping abolish gender norms specifically taking steps towards a society where men aren’t expected to provide and protect.

[@ianwazowski5607]

You're an antifeminist why do you care about gender norms

[@Daisy-zk9de]

Just stay single... it's easier...😂😂

[@DL-idk]

What they really want seems to be the right to complain about their partner 😂 Of course they don’t want an actual high value partner, because they don’t want to look bad in that relationship. It’s about competition and being the “better looking one” in that partnership. It’s not about the actual relationships.

[@noeliamontalban7087]

Yeah I stated this attitude when me or other women just state their preferences or boundaries online. Just a bunch of neanderthals come to grunt and insult😂

[@Matt-uy8tw]

Strong women, dependent women doesn't bother me. If they are strong and have a good career I do expect they show love appreciation the same way I give with acts of sevice and gift giving ext. If she is a dependent woman you need to let me lead and nag less about a formula that provides the life style I built. I never found a woman that had the right balance

[@kikijewell2967]

The number of comments that clearly thought they knew what the video was about...😂

[@MarioMario-vy4bi]

You look like alexander grace but the inverse

[@camiba6773]

Of course its a black man. Shaking my head

[@manifest2203]

It mostly is.

[@sivuyisezimela7819]

racism

[@Peekaboooooooooo4]

How is that racism. Saw a bunch of black women calling black men out specifically black men for being feminine

[@stilljocelyn_]

Always… they’ve been in their soft era for generations

[@sivuyisezimela7819]

@@Peekaboooooooooo4 now u gonna weaponize homophobia against black men by callin em "feminine". dont u see the clear racism and homophobia u spewing??

[@JCPRuckus]

1. Women mock men for not "meeting their standards". 2. Men mock women in return because those "standards" are ridiculous. 3. We only discuss how men are wrong for mocking women, and ignore the part where the women in question were mocking men. A perfect microcosm of the hypocrisy of modern feminist discourse.

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@JCPRuckus i mean, all things being equal, theres a difference of conduct between men and women describing their standards that should definitely be discussed.

[@rickmel-q7m]

if anything, women have very low standards for dating men; but a lot of men are so far gone that they can't even meet those standards

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@rickmel-q7m if there's depth below the bar, is the bar really low?

[@JCPRuckus]

@rickmel-q7m - Are you talking stated standards or demonstrated standards? Because obviously "discourse" implies stated standards, and women's stated standards are not low. What they'll accept if a guy is attractive enough is a whole different discussion, and doesn't apply to most men anyway.

[@rickmel-q7m]

@@zacharybosley1935 yes

[@justinhearst]

You keep making fun of the response to the behaviors of women that you know by average standars are absolutely ridiculous

[@SirPhysics]

So what? How does it impact your life at all if a small minority of women you'll never meet act ridiculous online? See those for the red flags they are and steer clear of them when you see them in real life, if that's not what you're looking for.

[@johndoe1274]

I thought this was supposed to be some internet-wide meme or troll in response to rage-bait by the other side? That's how I see it at least. Like, it shouldn't be difficult to realize when someone has ridiculous standards they want everyone to meet. Telling that person isn't going to make them change their mind if they're openly broadcasting it on the internet, but leaving them alone might. Imagine how limiting your options become when you have such standards. That's what the punchline is. Greed and self-absorption are also not qualities you want in a partner either, no matter the gender. Best thing to do is just keep it pushing and give people attention who you feel deserve your attention, it saves you stress, time, and spirit.

[@beardpapa12]

A lot of men ask for 50/50 but only apply it to bills while still wanting June Cleaver treatment (the woman doing the majority of cooking/cleaning/childcare) by their girlfriends/wives who are also paying 50% of the bills and in a Post-Roe situation, are facing higher risks during pregnancy and during delivery if the men are interested in children. So, if women want to say "Hey, this 50/50 is ripping me off," I'm not going to blame them.

[@Emptytopfloor]

@@beardpapa12 are women getting paid for pregnancy, birth, postpartum and associated loss of salary in these 50/50 situations?

[@NoxAeterna-wf4iv]

​@@Emptytopfloor not to mention house labour wage for Housewives.

[@Emptytopfloor]

@@NoxAeterna-wf4iv are women getting insurance on taking on the risk of simply being near a man? CDC dv stats suggest women should take out insurance policy before embarking upon heterosexual relationship.

[@NoxAeterna-wf4iv]

@@Emptytopfloor a very good point. Also, people fail to realise that the condition of women in the second and third world is way worse. Even in the first world, women are suffering. Let alone the other two worlds. Not to mention, most crimes against women in the 2nd and 3rd world don't even get reported.

[@Hype_Incarnate]

Show me the sugar mommas and I'll take this video seriously.

[@Pfpfpfpfpf2020]

There's one (hi, me!) literally right here. But my comment keeps disappearing 🙃

[@NoxAeterna-wf4iv]

@@Pfpfpfpfpf2020 I would have applied tbh if you have a process for application.🥹 But you probably live thousands of miles away.🥲

[@JessiD-111]

That's why men should be feminists. If women have more chances to earn good money, there will be more sugar mommas. :D

[@skadi6750]

My friend was one for few years. And the dude cheated on her meanwhile:-D

[@JezeBellaMorte333]

Hi. Ex-"sugar momma", here. Been that for 2 different guys; one in the early 2010s and one in 2020, both of whom I found cheating online. I have never even had an income above poverty level, but was doing what I could to build them up and they kept themselves and me down. No more taking care of men. They couldn't even wait to be better off, before betraying me and ruining my efforts. Guess I dodged some bullets because I have never been married. Never gonna be.

[@RedbeardJack]

It is childish to mock and make fun, it doesn't matter your gender. when women do it, though, somehow they are just expressing themselves. People have all these stupid terms too that B&W everything in their minds. Before you can open your mouth, the smallest thing can get you labeled as something, and you will never get rid of it with that individual. They will always see that and nothing else, despite their assumptions being wrong and proven wrong.

[@redwizard767]

You do know these feminists still hate you right?

[@Peekaboooooooooo4]

These type of Men don't think. they are way to emotional to use their brain

[@zacharybosley1935]

Hi, feminist here. although I disagree with some of Expatriarch's framing and the general lens of critique he levels on very specific issues, namely holding out any kind of good faith interpretation of poor behavior, in the broad sense I think he does a lot of good by bringing these issues up to examine.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Feminists don't hate

[@zacharybosley1935]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 i wouldn't go that far...

[@sivuyisezimela7819]

nah u wierd. U not gonna talk about the response of women calling the "soft guy" as "sassy" or "gay". these women are weaponizing homophobia against soft guy era. The soft guy era was making of materialistic and shallow women. there wasnt anything hateful bt women were ones attacking

[@Peekaboooooooooo4]

This video is about the meaning soft guy era and why it exist. People like you make Everything about yourself and give fault for your immature behavior to women. You just said it's not true and in the same sentence you say that you said in other words that you guys are only doing this because women are doing the same to mock them. Use your brain

[@sivuyisezimela7819]

@Peekaboooooooooo4 nah u living under rock. Soft guy was joke but every joke contain some truth in it. And u mean to tell u haven't read comments from women under ScarfaceMark of women say "y'all sassy" and u didn't see many videos of women saying men of 2024 are "feminine" as if it's bad. I though y'all hated masculinity 😂

[@frazier6612]

Mocking women's preferences isn't misogynistic, it's free speech and just as useful as any other dating discourse

[@sivuyisezimela7819]

exactly what i said

[@heraboss5533]

It is free speech, and its also free speech for someone to disagree with what you said

[@Peekaboooooooooo4]

Mocking is not free speech is bullying😂... Free speech means to have your own opinion. But it's not an opinion it's an attack

[@frazier6612]

@@Peekaboooooooooo4 bullying is relative; under the first amendment, we absolutely have the right to mock and belittle ideas, events, and people

[@frazier6612]

@@heraboss5533 entirely fair, it's just important which ideas we label as harmful (mIsOgYnIsTiC) and attempt to suppress, such as this chucklefuck does in his video.