Soft99 Fusso Old vs New Formula - Part 1

[@HantsLeo]

Thanks for doing this, it really should settle the argument about the durability of the new Fusso. Real life testing is the best way but many "reviewers" want a test that gives a result quickly.

[@gjd336]

Great comparison video, have you done part 2 yet?

[@ObsessiveCarDetailer]

You can't beat a real life test on British roads with British weather Dave. Simulation can only go so far. Be interesting to see how it unfolds👍

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Yeah it's not that hard to monitor something like this and will give us a good long test over the next few months.

[@thephantomarse]

I find that no wax ever lasts as long as the manufacturers clame verses the UK weather on a car that does a lot of miles

[@iamaparanoidandroid1]

I'm amazed to hear you say leave it an hour because I only leave it about 30s between application and buff for it to flash off, otherwise it's a nightmare to buff. The old one smells nice to me...

[@anguslean4058]

I dampen the sponge and apply it extremely thin Just lightly turn the sponge 2 times in the can Apply and wait about a minute Buff it off then use a clean micro fiber to buff it again I get no high spots It’s much faster this way And I get no wax residue left over after finishing It lasts for me between 9-12 months using a ph neutral car washing soap.

[@djnicky81]

I was recommended fusso when I got into car maintenance , I bought the new 1 not knowing there was an old version, visually great but longevity wise I wasn't overly impressed .

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Interesting 😏 I've always been pleased with the old ones so this could not be as close as I predict??

[@alex_tricker]

This is great, not seen this done properly before so very excited to see the outcome!

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Thanks! Me too to be honest. I really arent sure if this will even show a difference in longevity, and one part of me hopes that it doesnt! #MakeFussoGreatAgain 🤣

[@TheOmfgorz]

PART 2 ?????????????????????????

[@DryUrEyesMate]

Is he still alive?

[@Admin-ie9hp]

Anybody have the video of the follow-up of the showdown between the two?

[@Quint1975]

What was the result? Im looking to purchase some soft99 products and would be interested to see the conclusion.

[@eamonkelly2792]

This should be a good series, I have the metallic soft 99 and I think it's great, it will be good to see how they compare over the next few months especially as it's nearer the autumn time

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

We will hopefully get Autumn and Winter out of these. 👍

[@eamonkelly2792]

It should be good especially with all the salt and other stuff that autumn and winter throws at the car

[@Zwikster]

Where's the update?!? It's been eight months Bro!!!

[@vivaciencia9329]

it's sad that we never got an update

[@26DX047]

I received the original Soft99 Fusso Dark through the post today, I had some a couple of years ago but gave it away, so bought some more.

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

You are lucky to get an original pot nowadays!

[@26DX047]

@@DetailingandtheBeast £30 from Russia 🤣

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

@@26DX047 plutonium 210? 🤷‍♂️🙈

[@26DX047]

@@DetailingandtheBeast probably with infused corona 😆

[@thephantomarse]

Still loads of the old stuff on eBay

[@abdulmalikalyahyai702]

Any updates?

[@HypnotizinDetailz]

Great and interesting comparison Dave - curiously waiting for the final results! 👌🏻🤩👍🏻

[@reubennemoto5048]

Which is the Original Dark?? 1) The whole can including Instruction in Japanese and the color is White Cream; Not much odor smell.. 2) Outer can has Japanese Characters and Instruction is in English; Color is Light Green; Odor is sweet smelling. Which is the ORIGINAL FORMULA?? #1 or #2

[@TonysLawnCare215]

I am Older now and not as strong as i used to be So I don't buff off with my hand/arm strength anymore i wax now then i use a buffer machine to get my fusso off and wow soooo much easier and faster and way for shiny then the old elbow grease days strength in my arms and shoulders acted for days after USE A BUFFER MACHINE

[@Geeky_detail_reviews]

Great video love all the Soft99 products. I have old new and kiwami

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Kiwami I have a real love for that wax. Possibly their best product?

[@Geeky_detail_reviews]

@@DetailingandtheBeast yes I agree Dave, it’s the best of both worlds. I’ve seen with proof 8months it lasted on my mother in laws golf. Just still sheeting. No beading. 👌

[@jasons2290]

What happened to the update? Did you give up.

[@GetCTOwned]

Have we got a part 2 yet?

[@thedonfranz]

how was the longevity review? It appears you are not uploading videos recently. 😢

[@mmsicis1992]

And how did they perform side to side?

[@kwl189]

Any update on this? Not seen any new videos on the channel?

[@megasaturndreams6634]

Nice video, what was the results?

[@LothianValet]

Ive got both dark and light seemed nice to use but than was my 1st time using them. New / old car next month which i may out some on if i dont put a ceramic coating on

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Yeah I've got both light and dark in the old formula. That's another discussion for another day though as I dont think they're a real noticeable difference between light and dark in ANY of the Soft99 waxes.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

Dave, did you ever follow this up? I noticed you've been absent for a good long while. Hope all is OK buddy!

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

There will be no video on this unfortunately, I'm currently on an extended break from KZbin that I don't expect to end any time soon. As for the test, I can tell you it's been running since August '21 (so like 8+ months) and I haven't topped up that bonnet at all. The two are fading at a similar rate, with the old being ever so slightly better. But.. if they weren't side by side you'd never be able to differentiate them. You should have no worries telling people that they are almost identical at 8 months.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

@@DetailingandtheBeast brilliant of you to get back to me Dave - thank you! Miss seeing your good content, but I hope everything works out the way you want it for you buddy! Take care.

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Cheers. I may be back in the future. Never say never. I've had a lot of things to do at home since last year, never ending renovation projects.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

@@DetailingandtheBeast ah mate I hear you on that! I'm in the middle of it all myself, aswell as working full-time too! It's a ballache and a half!

[@pec1739]

@@DetailingandtheBeast thanks for the update, finally found this comment sorting by "newest first"

[@Chris_8270]

I've both of these but other than the smell there wasn't much between them I thought. I don't think new fusso is improved enough to justify the price increase

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Exactly! I arent going to go into the price, because the original was such a bargain, and in my opinion under priced. But yes, it is a factor. It's why I'm doing this because the only really factor for Fusso is longevity.

[@Chris_8270]

If your apply it once a year and applying it pretty thin on the paint then cost isn't really an issue as it will last a while. Currently have two coats of new fusso and a coat of king of gloss on my own car, applied them about 3 months ago and they are still going really strong. I do think when it comes to testing this kind of products it needs to be over a long period of time

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Good combo! Yeah that's why I'm doing this one properly. I cant obviously test every product I try in "real time" but I do think this one is a good one to do.

[@anguslean4058]

Use mirror shine instead as a topper It is literally wipe it on and wipe it off and lasts about the same length of time as King Of Gloss.

[@griffonsa]

hi all... Does anyone have any experience how this would compare to Autoglym UHD? I love AG UHD, but o so expensive....

[@mic400uk]

Part 2?

[@diljitjedi]

Just a quick question what is the result of a new update on the soft 99 I know the old stuff was absolute kryptonite and yes I am using the word kryptonite how is the new one doing or should I stick to my polymer net shield that is guaranteed for 6 months with maintenance from BSD every 3 months obviously the European markets were robbed of some of the chemical make-up we all look forward to it

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

6 months in now and it is still as good as the original, so much negativity around the formula change online, and my conclusion is that nobody has actually done this test. Because if they had, half of the BS people spout would stop.

[@diljitjedi]

@@DetailingandtheBeast the old kryptonite soft99 was very good even if we get 7 to 8 months with the new formula a lot of us would be extremely happy keep up the good work mate I think I will order some this is the type of stuff I want to use on my wheel barrels Hobbs and the fascia of the wheel to give me a long Winter longevity

[@kevinmichael6974]

Great comparison ... heard you mentioned that you use 2 layers ... how long in between before you apply the 2nd coat?

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

If using something else on top it needs a little while like 8 - 24 hours to gas off. Given that two layers of fusso is just "more of the same" you will get away with an hour between, then leave it for a day before touching it afterwards.

[@marcjarvis3975]

Looking forward to the results! Have I made this up or was it recommended to allow 24 hrs to layer/ add wax over fusso?

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Adding something else yeah, fusso "gasses" off. Two layers is fine though of same product.

[@marcjarvis3975]

Detailing and the Beast nice one, thank you!

[@exdafrianz3939]

its already 3 months😆

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

I've stopped making content - please see the Facebook page for a full explanation.

[@tmphotography8443]

good test on something thats used a lot and like my wifes car hers being white isnt the best for filming etc . Im out of it but having GT3 I am wondering do I really need Fusso in my arsenal ?

[@tmphotography8443]

Kiwami was my fav , KOG I have but prefer Kiwami to apply etc . keeps you in content for a few months to pal

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Horses for courses Andy, it really is. The simple fact is, whichever you buy you only really need the one, you use so little and it lasts so long, you wont need another product again really. 3CS was insanely economical when I did the Ranger last year.

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

I do love the Kiwami. I find it easy to use and looks super.

[@tmphotography8443]

@@DetailingandtheBeast wish I had gotten that instead of KOG being honest . That over Autosmart Mirror Image polish was a winner on my dark blue Nissan

[@iamaparanoidandroid1]

Any update dude?

[@kevinb7058]

Yo Dave what’s the best applicator to use for the new fusso?

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

I'm not a fan of the foam ones they supply. I prefer a blue microfibre applicator pad personally. 👍

[@bigdtailing1950]

Always found it such a weird look to i always describe it a cleanness rather than a depth of gloss

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Hmm yeah I kinda get what you mean, I like it on "richer" colours, reds, blues, etc. Seems to just shine so easily. Now the cleanliness thing is interesting because I think it was the main difference between light and dark variances, pretty sure it was the lights that have paint cleansers in there.

[@bigdtailing1950]

@@DetailingandtheBeast oils Possibly be I have both though I used half and half once on a bonnet and couldn’t tell the difference at all tbh that was on a black car

[@andrewbranford2032]

So if the new ones crap what's the point of a review as in UK we can't buy it

[@andrewbranford2032]

At least it's a real review on fusso new too

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

But we dont know that. This is the point. If it's way worse then it's a no brainer, they've ruined it. But, if it's a very similar experience,and longevity is unaffected, then people can continue to buy it in the confidence that its going to be a s good as the old one that we all knew and loved.

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

And it's not a "review", it's a simple test... "Does the new one last like the old one?" I dont believe this has been done properly before, just people guessing and summising on what they think it's like in comparison.

[@andrewbranford2032]

@@DetailingandtheBeast ok mate

[@amandeepdhillon2618]

Looking forward to this real life test. Do you think, as its going to be long term monitoring, that it might be worthwhile extending the test down the sides, old down one, new down the other? Could even do the tailgate to get the full analysis, if you're going to the trouble of giving it a proper test which it sounds like you will be? Just my thoughts anyway, it might show how each does in those particularly grimy areas you find down the sides and rear.

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Possibly. The problem is I have other products on the rest of the car, which is going to need removal. Not sure I have the time to do this, but I will see. It's a good shout.

[@crazycressy7986]

Cool ,need to wash my truck ,m8 ots got cobwebs on it🤦‍♂️😆

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

🤣 It been a long time Pete?

[@annawong1305]

Update please!! We're all curious about the results.

[@vasileiospetropoulos2046]

Any update??

[@nickaf5262]

Forensic detailing already did this and the old one is better 👍

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

A long term real life test on a real car? I thought he only simulated it? Either way, I'm doing this! I only trust my own results 😏😉

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Yeah just been to revisit that, a lot of "maybes" and "guesses" in that video. Simulated on a static panel with chemical resistance only. My mini series is a real test, on a car, driving around. Way more realistic than what Forensics did in that video. The results may well come out to be the same as a simulated chemical resistance test. But as you will have seen from the TurtleWax Graphene videos I've done, chemical resistance means jack against a real life situation. 😊👍

[@nickaf5262]

Ok 👍

[@nickaf5262]

Forensic must do something right though he has a few subs

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Oh he definitely is! One of the biggest Detailing channels on KZbin. A massive achievement, so much that he is now full time with it and earns solely from his channels.

[@thephantomarse]

Been waiting for someone to do this 👍I have the old version It's a great wax not sure it was as good as everyone made out durability wise on a dayley motorway driver in the UK But tougher than most waxes Real world durability testing is the way to go I think The simulated stuff is hit and miss depending on what chemicals you are using

[@DetailingandtheBeast]

Too good an opportunity to pass up on. Its an easy series to video over the months, and it's a question that I cant find a definitive answer to so will be educational for me too!