SolarEdge Energy Hub Inverter Review | SolarEdge Energy Hub System

[@markthompson4099]

I have been installing Solar for over 22 years. You are very professional and current a plus.

[@mayorart1]

Thanks Joe! Great, clear presentation! Inverters and solar panels have come a long way in the last 25 years!

[@silvertube52]

Nice video. You describe exactly the system I got installed two months ago. Although I only have 6.8kw in panels. On cloudy days, it won't completely charge the battery, so we do use power from the grid on cloudy days.

[@trainliker100]

You are VERY good at presenting information. I just had a system installed (by Solarponics) that uses the SolarEdge unit and it seems very good. The company that did the installation is probably the oldest in my area in this business. "Oldest" doesn't always mean best if they don't keep up with technology. But this outfit has a reputation for keeping up with "state of the art" and they use SolarEdge. I have an electronic engineering background myself but didn't really know that much about the solar game. I know more now. And I like the SolarEdge approach. The monitoring is superb. Of course, it will be ten or twenty years until I can get back to you on reliability.

[@SolarSurge]

Hi Charles and thanks for writing in. Please let us know how it works out.

[@giljusino]

Question, my 7.6kW home system was commissioned in 2019. Under the North Carolina Rider NM I believe I’m entitled to 15-years under the 1 for 1 net metering program. Is this correct?

[@alexchliwnyj5941]

Your presentation convinced me to buy solaredge but after one month of operation My inverter has an error and I have no power. I am concerned about energy security... did I pick the wrong manufacturer? It is a great architecture but a failure at one month is really soured me on solaredge.

[@beardedgaming1337]

can these inverters run air compressor, welders, plasma cutters? low frequency inverters are needed for that? also can it take 110v input for charging? such as from a truck's power inverter?

[@RayonWhittaker]

Is there a 50Hz or 50/60Hz version of this available? I'm only finding 60Hz versions on their website.

[@TicoRealtors]

Good job, however you didn't do your normal rating system? We have actually installed these for off-grid systems the older storage. The only thing I wish you would have mentioned is how the hybrid inverter is a pass through inverter as well. In our case we're also going to be testing using wind generation for the input of the generator.

[@raymondbracamontesd.c.3776]

I like this system...can Solaredge prioritize circuits in an off grid scenerio like the generac system? Also can solaredge and generac directly use your PV panels to power you home instead of going thru the battery? Does TOU work differently in arch system? My best, Ray

[@nicksgarage2]

Do different SolarEdge inverters provide more energy than others? I've been dealing with my dead SolarEdge SE7600A inverter with StorEdge since January. My installer just put in a used HD Wave inverter as a loaner, as they've been having trouble getting a replacement for the one I had. Since they've installed the loaner, I've noticed that production seems much higher than my old inverter if I look at full sun days of the same date in history. Unfortunately I can't actually see the monitoring for the loaner as it's not hooked connected that way. But I do have consumption/production data from my old Enphase IQ7 system on a smaller system previously installed. It shows me the total exported kwh through my meter connection. If the newer style inverter truly provides more production, I'm going to try and get them to replace the old one with one of these. Even though I had the StorEdge component included in the system when it was installed in 2018, I never got batteries. Do I need to worry about that any longer since most battery systems now seem to manage that themselves? I guess it would only matter if I was getting a DC coupled battery system. Still confused in Southern California.

[@SolarSurge]

Hi Nick. My understanding is that SolarEdge discontinued the StorEdge and replaced it with the new Energy Hub using HD Wave technology. I would definitely take the upgrade. I was one of the first guys installing StorEdge on the east coast going back to 2017. I had so many problems and so many costly service calls trying to get that unit to work properly with LG batteries. Ultimately, LG recalled the batteries. It was a combo doomed to fail.

[@nicksgarage2]

@@SolarSurge thanks for the reply. When I got home, I looked at the inverter and it is an SE7600H. I'll fight for the upgrade and keep looking for the right battery solution. And once the monitoring is back, I can confirm that it's producing more. I've already lost a lot of money because of this. My true-up bill comes next month and I won't be able to offset much of the big bill.

[@sohebzaidi]

Does it allow for AC couple battery system.

[@a7dpl]

OK. does it work offgrid also? then the grid is down, does it continue to produce in the home installation only off the grid?... Sofar HYD does and it changes from on-grid to off-grid mode in less than 20ms Huawei L1 + Backupbox up to 2s

[@gilbrook]

How far away from hub can EV charger be located? Electrical service located in basement - 30’ from garage. Insightful review. ThankU!

[@SolarSurge]

We typically mount these inverters in the garage near the EV.

[@gilbrook]

@@SolarSurge Yes, charger in garage close to EV, but can energy hub be 30’ away from charger location?

[@TheWorldRealist]

If I add a wind turbine to my solaredge hub where will it connect to as there are 3 inputs. It need DC but most turbines produce AC which is converted to AC.

[@landmanp]

Is it correct you can charge your battery with 7,4 kWh? Isn't the max (un)loading 5kWh?

[@15ashnov]

Joe Ordea thanksca lot... This is a great video. Very clear and easy to understand 👍👍👍

[@BrendaKlahn]

I got a question, my power co does NOT do net metering and also charges high fees every month for going solar, for my system it costs me 57.00 a mo just for this charge and they only give me .05 cents per KW of my overage, never comes close to the fees they charge{ Demand recovery fee). My min bill now will be about 90.00 before using 1 watt of power. Is there a way with my solar edge inverter to use grid as only emergency back up and not send any power back to grid so I can go back to my old 1 way meter.

[@SolarSurge]

Yes. Install a battery and configure the system for "self-consumption" mode.

[@WilliamPozo]

Your presentations are excellent. Supre impressive diction and professional style. Cheers from N. Va.

[@SolarSurge]

Thank you, sir! Glad the videos are helpful.

[@gyeganeh]

Joe, Thank you so much for your introduction, I'm in process of contracting for solar installation, my question is how many converters I should ask for 42 panels with LG RESU16 PRIME. Thanks

[@SolarSurge]

1 or 2. The EnergyHub inverter comes in many different sizes so you may be able to do the entire system on a single inverter. It's also depends on the power rating of your solar panels.

[@msa_0619]

Good Morning: Yes I have SolarEdge at our home with natural gas generator I have 49 solar panels on the roof. On February 14th 2021 some parts of Texas lose power on for a 1 or 2 weeks. When we lose power the solar panels was tie to the meter. So we Depend on our natural gas generator to keep power on & heater on too So I would like to know how can we add a battery 🔋 backup on our home Oh the whole solaredge system in install on 02-12-2019 I wish I can attach the aspects on your unit It say 12.8KWp I'm calling from Houston TX

[@15ashnov]

Thanks a lot ....this is great news

[@jmzorko]

Many thanks for this introduction, Joe! Your videos have been very helpful and i've learned quite a lot. I'm in the midst of planning my PV upgrade for this home, and was initially going to stay away from the SolarEdge inverters bc they didn't do everything I needed. However it appears as though the Energy Hub finally supports AC coupling my current (legacy) string inverter / array, so I wouldn't lose the use of it during a grid-down event. I've a question, though. If I wanted to, instead of AC coupling my current inverter / array, just move the entire string connected to my current inverter over to the Energy Hub, is that supported? In other words, i'd have, say, 4kw of PV connected to the Energy Hub on one MPPT, and have the current 3kw legacy string connected to another MPPT?

[@SolarSurge]

Hi John. Yes, that would work. However, you would need to install SolarEdge optimizers on the existing string of old panels.

[@peterponcedeleon3368]

Great info!!

[@Renew60]

Is this inverter able to integrate bidirectional EV charging with the home?

[@jameswhitehead3946]

What model is this unit you review

[@hongotedesco8931]

Hi, is this a good unit for the following purpose: All I care about is using the batteries during peak times. I.e., any excess production by the panels goes into the batteries, and then at peak times, instead of going to the grid to get the energy, go to the batteries. I'm not really worried about "the grid going down". Or is the cheaper non-energy hub inverter sufficient? Thx.

[@SolarSurge]

For something like that, I would recommend the Enphase system configured for whole house battery. You can then set your battery profile for time-of-use to avoid purchasing during peak hours.

[@roqueortiz769]

Great video! Very informative. I want to make sure I am understanding you correctly -- you're saying that if you oversize your PV system to be 200% of the capacity of the inverter, say use a 15kW DC system with a 7.6kW Inverter + batteries, the inverter can actually make full use of the PV to simultaneously convert ~7.6kW DC into usable AC power for your home AND charge your DC batteries? It can do both at the same time? Thanks for your answer.

[@SolarSurge]

Hi Roque. Yes, in theory, what you described is correct. However, we do not recommend oversizing all the way to 200%. My recommendation is to keep the DC-AC overloading to 125% or less.

[@paulvandingenen5135]

Hello, I have almost the same question as Marc Waller here below. Could I use my tesla battery as backup . ( Next year I will have my second , so normally There will be always one present for backup ) ?.

[@SolarSurge]

Yes, Tesla batteries can be used to backup an existing SolarEdge system.

[@pvon128]

Hi Great video. Do you ever do private consultation for a homeowner out of your multi state network, that would like and trust your recommendations. If so how best to set a phone consultation and payment method)?

[@freshundies]

I installed this inverter with a regular LG chem resu10h , And solar edge energy hub.

[@SolarSurge]

That's good. Do you know if the old StorEdge 7600's will allow using the new LG Prime 16h batteries?

[@freshundies]

@@SolarSurge i have no idea. but i really like the knock out setup they had for this inverter. but i did have to install a small switch for the pv lines by the main to act as a disco.

[@freshundies]

@@SolarSurge also i heard they a doing away with the big dc switch in the front of the inverters, did you guys hear anything about that.

[@maverickimyt]

Is it required to have optimizers, especially if I have system without? And why can’t other batteries be paired? Also, any other EV like the new F150 coming out?

[@SolarSurge]

SolarEdge requires optimizers in order to function. You can use either an LG, Tesla, or SolarEdge EnergyBank battery with this inverter.

[@chancestreetman8314]

I live in Orlando. I will be reaching out for a quote whenever Enphase releases their IQ8s.

[@SolarSurge]

Great. They should be shipping in Q3.

[@leonardobianchi9375]

Hi Joe. How can I get in touch with you or your team?

[@SolarSurge]

Please use the website to book a zoom call or you can email [e-mail]

[@donfrancis103]

Hey Joe, maybe you can help. My installer doesn't seem to have a clue. We have a 3.8Kw SolarEdge new inverter that is controlling a 4.1kW array for the pool pump. Any excess power is fed back through the subpanel to power anything else in the house that needs power. It is fairly remote and far downstream from the generator, making it not only impractical if not impossible to attempt to connect the whole house generator to this inverter directly - instead the standby 20kW genset is connected to a 400 amp ATS, which flips when the grid is down. It starts the generator and then transfers from grid power to genset. The generator is then powering the house, and feeding power to the subpanel where the SolarEdge is connected. Will this Solaredge damage my generator or visa-versa due to the generator not delivering a pure and perfect grid-type sine wave? Is there a setting inside the Solaredge for alternative power sources or some other setting I need to change to make this device get along with my 20kW standby generator?

[@SolarSurge]

Good questions here. This installation should never have been done this way. The SolarEdge grid-tied inverter should never be installed downstream from the generators. The SolarEdge should be tapped to the utility service only ABOVE the 400-amp ATS. With your current configuration, it's possible for the SolarEdge to backfeed into the generator, potentially damaging the generator. I suggest you set your generator to manual start and be sure to turn off the SolarEdge unit before firing up the gen.

[@alzamboti8639]

Seems Ford F150 lightning uses Solaredge smart inverter with 80amp Ford home charger. Do you have more info on this incl approximately pricing?

[@SolarSurge]

We will be following this and get more details to you shortly.

[@DrMarkWaller]

Can I use my EV as a battery backup (powerWall) for my house? It seems logical if I can charge my EV from the inverter I should be able to power the inverter in a power down situation. Can I do that?

[@SolarSurge]

This technology is coming very soon. Nissan Leaf already has a limited ability here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpTaYZlni5d1iLM

[@rustusandroid]

So this hub cannot do LifePO4 batteries?

[@ericwitt23]

Question for ya, Does the SolarEdge Energy Hub allow the continued charging of an EV if the grid goes down and you do not have a battery backup?

[@SolarSurge]

Good question. I believe so but I will work to get a firm answer for you.

[@ericwitt23]

@@SolarSurgeThanks! follow-up Q... Does it have to be their own (solarEdge EV charger) or can it be any 3rd party charger that supports MQTT?

[@SolarSurge]

@@ericwitt23 It must be the SolarEdge EV charger. You can also use any AC charger 30-amps or less on the battery backup, although I wouldn't recommend it.

[@ericwitt23]

@@SolarSurge That's a new one.... Using an EV charger on the battery backup hookups of the solaredge inverter... Is there a reason you don't recommend it?

[@jimhanna543]

@@SolarSurge So... have you gotten a firm answer to this question. Haven't been able to find any confirmation of this. Thanks.

[@paro64]

Can I set this type of SolarEdge’s inverter for answer of house energy require but, in the same time, cut every single watt surplus on grid side? There is some difference between this model and another with integrated car charger?

[@SolarSurge]

Yes, what you're talking about is zero-export mode or "Hawaii mode".

[@paro64]

@@SolarSurge I am not an expert but I believe it is called “zero export mode” Is needed to ad other device (like SolarEdge meter or general RS485 meter) for this function?

[@georgeskamagas185]

can solaredge connect with other name inverter ????

[@marktims3819]

Great! can you connect two LG Resu with one Solaredge 7.6 kW?

[@SolarSurge]

Yes

[@stoncrop]

That's a great looking product that I would be interested in; however, it appears to require a SolarEdge certified installer. I can understand that with the PV "mini inverters" required on each panel. It doesn't appear to be as easy to install as a Growatt or MPP Solar inverter. On those you just need an electrician to do your hookups to the electrical panel, etc. I couldn't find any information on the cost of these systems either, although I didn't search for long.

[@stoncrop]

By the way, I live in Houston and there is ony one installer listed and they are NE of the city. I am SW of the city. Anyone who's been to Houston knows that is a long distance.

[@hmurchison8123]

@@stoncrop Houston is a great city but small it is NOT. I’ve been to a couple of conferences there and gotten around a bit and haven’t seen 99% of the city. I had no idea it was that large…but it’s Texas. I should have known.

[@Kuya_Chino]

@@stoncrop If you're in Houston, I would suggest Pure Energy. They're a great company through the whole process including any future service.

[@stoncrop]

@@Kuya_Chino I appreciate the heads up.

[@stoncrop]

@@hmurchison8123 LOL. Yes indeed. I moved here from Denver. One year a friend from Denver said he was visiting Houston and asked if I would drop by to see him. He said he was staying NE of the airport (Intercontinental not Hobby). I told him that I lived SW of the city and it was a long ways for me but I would drive up to see him. He said how far could it be? Just for grins I set a trip odometer and when I finally arrived in the driveway where he was staying it registered almost 100 miles. As the crow flies it probably was just over 60 or 70 miles but the streets, highways don't go straight there.

[@tonycampanile8291]

Will the new lg 16k prime batteries work with the solaredge se7600 uss inverter. I know they work with the lg chem resu 10.

[@scotthall1381]

Yep

[@SolarSurge]

I believe Energy Hub has replace the old StorEdge 7600.

[@tonycampanile8291]

@@SolarSurge that I know, but I have 2 solaredge SE7600a-uss installed 3 years ago because I was planning on getting either Tesla power wall or lg Chem resu 10, but now that Tesla is not selling power walls unless you buy a whole system, that leaves me with Lg. But lg came out with the 16k prime which I am interested in. Just want to know if they can be installed with my current inverters or do I have to replace both inverters.

[@SolarSurge]

@@tonycampanile8291 We will research this and hope to have an answer soon.

[@mine0002]

can the solar edge se7600H-US interface with a standard 52-58 lifepo4 battery pack containing a bms? If not why?

[@SolarSurge]

No because they operate at different voltage. The Solar Edge uses a high-voltage DC battery bus operating around 400V. The battery you mentioned operates in the 50V range.

[@jpravetz]

@@SolarSurge I believe solar Edge advertise that they can work with any 48V battery system. Yet I've never seen evidence of this in practice. Confusing.

[@derrickburnett2588]

What States & Area do you install in ???

[@SolarSurge]

We cover 16 states. You can see them here: solarsurge.net/select-your-state

[@SSNsnapshot]

If retrofitting an existing SolarEdge system, should the microinverters be replaced/upgraded to new(er) at time of install?

[@SolarSurge]

If you are referring to SolarEdge optimizers, the answer is no. You can mix and match various type of DC optimizers (P300, P320, P340, etc,) in the same SolarEdge system. The optimizers should be matched to the solar panels' voltage and power output at the time of original install.

[@buixote]

Unless you're running a *Think!* or comparable small EV, you're going to need a *heck* of an array to support car-charging.

[@polarbearigloo]

not really, when on grid you can run nominally and do energy arbitrage. In a grid down situation you can put a input of 3kw or less to the vehicle (this also depends on driving habits) but if stated here and over dv volt you can have the possibility in the day to do more. You would also need a cut off for a set limit for the battery as well. This helps with your car controlling amp input/ or the charging unit. I run my tesla to charge at 1kw since I dont do much driving and it works nominally for me if you drive example 200 miles a day this could work if in the southern portion of the usa. but if in the northern states your solar would need to be larger.

[@ethanallenkent]

Does this product, or any other set up out there, provide a non-solar, arbitrage only solution? For example, the consumer has on-peak, off-peak, and super off-peak pricing at $0.56, $0.36, and $0.09 respectively & consumes $750kwh in a month. So theoretically, arbitrage might save something on the order of $125 in a month. The question is... is it possible? Or are panels required for such a system?

[@SolarSurge]

What you are asking for is possible. Tesla Powerwall is probably your best bet for an non-solar rate arbitrage system. Please schedule a call via the website if you need a quote.

[@ethanallenkent]

@@SolarSurge Wow, that was a quick reply. I've scheduled an appointment & look forward to talking to you.

[@anthonysaylaheng4659]

…so we can use energy hub during a black out?

[@SolarSurge]

Yes you can!

[@nicolasap86]

@@SolarSurge That is only with the battery backup installed though right?

[@SolarSurge]

@@nicolasap86 Correct.

[@DuTangTheCryptoSurfr]

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[@arleneallen8809]

Not understanding the comment about only the LG batteries. Wouldn't it, like most inverters these days, have a custom configuration menu for arbitrary lithium setups? I ask because the commercial battery sellers - Victron, Battleborn, etc. are milking the market big time with their pricing. BMS's are no longer a big deal, and some of the independent ones are as high a quality as Tesla, LG, anyone.

[@SolarSurge]

These batteries require a proprietary communication between the inverter and the battery. Most modular batteries (e.g. Battle board, et.) don't support the communications protocol.

[@arleneallen8809]

@@SolarSurge Ok. So basically, Solaredge inverters are unusable unless one buys the specific battery they support. Too bad because I like the incorporation of the car charging logic.

[@SolarSurge]

@@arleneallen8809 Actually, use the SolarEdge backup interface, you can use these inverters during daylight hours for backup power even without a battery.

[@johnward2941]

If only Solaredge was reliable and had good customer service. When it needs service and it will expect to be on the phone for over a hour waiting for customer service. When and if a grid down event occurs pray your Solaredge equipment is working cause replacements take months

[@richardpalmer1502]

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[@brainthesizeofplanet]

Phew those 7.5kw aren't enough I guess. Better to go with a setup which can put all 15kw into the grid if u don't need any power yourself and your battery is full

[@MerkDolf]

Too bad yor can't pair it with some Liberty batteries to have days of battery back-up

[@TicoRealtors]

You can do it with the LG's, plus with the new inverters this quarter you can do 11k peaks with the battery and stack them.

[@AnActualCoconut]

"18xBC HW Error". If you know you know

[@The_Unobtainium]

4:04 - what a bullshit. For how long you can overload this unit? Have you read the manual?