Solid State Logic UC1 vs Softube Console 1 | It's Not Even Close.. SSL,

Because you asked! Here is a comparison between the Solid State Logic UC1 and Softube Console 1.
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[@manuelconde6117]

You can proudly say you’re the first one doing an official comparison of these two. So glad I found your channel

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾🙏🏾 I hope they’ll be other videos . I want to know some other opinions. Thanks for watching!!

[@massivebeatzz]

yep he did. I did a few reviews of UC1 , and regretted having sold teh Console 1 - and been able to do a side by side. That being said - SSL easily beats Console 1... ..it's Solid State Logic - and they are on to something.

[@realsamswing5029]

Nope you are paying just for the BRAND NAME ... people are so stuck on LABELS - APPLE THIS SSL THAT BLAH BLAH BLAH... I have seen KZbin clips of interviews where it was mentioned that the SOFTUBE engineers who teamed up with the OFFICIAL SSL TECHS and ENGINEERS have off the record told them that the SOFTUBE EMULATIONS OF THE SSL BOARDS BY FAR BEAT SSL’s own PLUGINS AND ALL THE OTHER PLUG-IN DEVS who’ve made SSL type mixer plugins and they have said this at NAMM and numerous events to the detriment of SSL .. maybe the SSL engineers had a better vibe of Connection with SOFTUBE engineers but if you. LQQK at what they’ve recently done with the Roland Juno emulation plug-ins and the MOOG one It’s almost a mirrored match better than ANY PLUGINS that have attempted to copy the Roland Juno sounds ... so it’s a preference thing but my budget is limited and I can’t buy everything that comes out so I waited and waited and watched countless YT videos before I pulled the trigger o. The SOFTUBE PLUGINS and the CONSOLE 1 & THE FADER 1 units.. just FYI...

[@jatari18]

Love the fact you went straight to the answer at the beginning, then went into specifics afterwards for those engaged.

[@tbhockeyboy]

Thanks for this review! Keep in mind though, a lot of the DAW-integrated features you pointed out about the Console 1 are only supported in Studio One, in Pro Tools, most of these do not function.

[@jakobole]

It Works in Reaper and Ableton as well

[@tasemusic]

Can confirm, FL works like a charm as well

[@officialsimonharris]

I got my UC1 yesterday and think it's awesome - a game changer because of the SSL360 virtual console with the overview of the whole session, this is the key and makes it very fast to jump to any track and adjust things. I have the Console 1 as well and with Logic the track selection is manual and very cumbersome. I will probably keep the console 1 because it has a great graphical interface and some more features . . . I also have the UF8 and the new UC1 is a must-have and makes it much more usable

[@massivebeatzz]

agreed 100%!

[@peterson53047]

Should beginner to have a one?

[@vladpsychotrope3187]

Best audio review in on KZbin, love smart kind people who don’t waste my time!

[@jimchism6653]

As a Console 1 owner I was thinking about buying this but will hold off for a while. Maybe the SSL competion will inspire softube to redesign their Console 1 with a new unit and software.

[@vicesquadpunk]

I will keep my Console 1 based on this video… just a couple of days into UC1 and. UF 8 and I’m edging towards SSL right now. The Drive on Console 1 is very good though 😊 cheers from UK 🇬🇧 STAY SAFE

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

100% agree here! Are you keeping both systems?

[@beigela]

dude, vice squads up in here?! i fuckin love you guys! curious, are you guys completely in the box these days?? much respect from los angeles!

[@DerekMarshall]

I just added an old ipad to my desk as a dedicated display for the console 1 app - really nice to have and gives all the track details etc. I never bother with the actual vst plugin ui. Before having that I would have to use the button to pop up the app on my main screen. Also, the console 1 app has several display modes which is handy.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Definitely forgot to mention this. The dedicated iPad solves a lot of issues! I haven’t really found a practical use in my workflow for the different modes yet, with the console 1 alone. Love the additional options the Fader 1 gives .

[@CeZarMusic]

@@ZndBornMixedIt I have 2 ipads, one as 3rd screen for the C1 channelstrip display(the detailed one), and a second ipad underneath that which runs Avid Control, 10 channels, in meter mode, using Cubase + Eucontrol, and that one mirrors my C1 fader, with daw track colours and all. I have found this to be the best and most complete workaround. The Avid Control ipad sits at the top of my C1+fader desk module, while the 3rd screen ipad with the C1 OSC is above the Avid one and just under my 2 main monitors.

[@zachandtomdad]

How do you add an iPad so that it will display the Console 1 UI? I had no idea this was possible.

[@DerekMarshall]

@@zachandtomdad I use Duet on the Mac

[@zachandtomdad]

Cool, thanks for the info! After a bit of research, I discovered that Apple has some built-in options depending on which operating system you have that allows you to do something similar, but Duet looks a lot easier

[@klarkdog]

I own the console/fader1 and I’m very happy with this set up. Great review!

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾Thank you ! I love it.

[@JM_2019]

Nice video. I have both console one and UC1 and I have to say it's true that the Console One has more features but that makes it actually feel like a controller while the UC1 really feels like a mixing desk. For me this is a big advantage.

[@massivebeatzz]

SSL is just a step above at this point, and it works - Console 1 with it's weird overlay mixer volume and pan gets in the way. my 0.005.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

I was skeptical until I tried the UC1 with the UF8 - I’m torn now.

[@reginaldworthington7558]

I think you have done a good overall review here but it should be emphasized that with the UC1 you are getting arguably the best channel strip money can buy (sold separately its 329 USD) and a world class bus compressor valued at the same price. These do go on sale from time to time as a package and you can save significantly but if you are comparing apples to apples, I’d say the UC1 does not lose out on price point vs Console 1 - both are great tools to be sure, so it just comes down to taste preference I think and how much you want to get that SSL vibe in your mix. Thanks for the vid.

[@alvisreidmusic]

Nice comparison! The new console one update has Birdseye (360) view of the whole session. It's amazing

[@MrLanka-ud8wl]

Awesome video. Very seriously considering getting both the console 1 and console 1 fader for use with Reaper. Sounds like it's well supported and would be great for workflow.

[@tedbahas]

Console one does have an overview mode like 360. It can show track settings across multiple tracks. You have to enable that mode on the gui. As pretty as 360 is it is much slower for accessing settings and working. Having dedicated track buttons makes C1 really fast for selecting and editing track settings. The muscle memory focused approach of C1 makes it super fast on big projects

[@hermannpreinfalk9300]

Well done! I see a bright future for you and your channel! Because you know how to talk and to entertain. Nice :)

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾🙏🏾Thank you man. I’ll do my best to keep it going!

[@Mheyos]

Freakin awspome video ! i love the way you do it baby ! Thanks so much for this and greattings from Paris !

[@MrMelancobar]

Hey! Happy to discover your channel... I´ve been snooping UC1 (I´m from Argentina, so SSL prices are SO unreachables...) cause I love physical knobs & faders... I own Console1 and a FaderPort 16, currently not pluged together (couple of not fully understanding each other here and there, hopefully improved or solved by some firmware update) Actually, after seeing you with S1 and Console1, I´m going to re plug everything up again... Thanks!!!! Keep it up!!! Greetings and sorry for my "Tarzan" english...

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

😂No worries. Thanks for the feedback and watching. I use the Console one and Faderport Single V2 together, and I love it. It could be improved but 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@melodywave3]

For me, I feel very compelled with the SSL workflow because I learned all of my mixing skills on a SSL 4000 so being able to have the form factor at home is too much of a plus

[@kentforde6350]

Great review best insights of all the videos I've seen.. Just ordered a console one.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏿🙏🏿💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@richiefamus8778]

If you leave the plug-in GUI open, the UC1 does in fact follow the daw selection. Well In Logic and Studio one it does.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Yep. Took me a second to figure that one out 😂

[@richiefamus8778]

@@ZndBornMixedIt me too lol

[@Tha_Mecca]

I love both. To me, it’s about workflow and what works for you. I love SSL native and the 360 software and I love how you can create your own strip with the console1 and you can use UAD plugs within it also. It’s tough but you really can’t go wrong with either one. Appreciate the comparison vid 💯💯

[@axemanfishing2703]

Dude GREAT REVIEW. Hats off to you. Question, can you select a subgroup channel on the Console 1 to eq/compress/filter and distort? Only see regular channel and not grouped eq channels. Thanks man.

[@TristanKlein]

hey Bro ! thanks for the video. you're absolutely right. plus the console one software is so CPU light vs the SSL plugins included with UC1. I think I have best of both worlds with a UF8 + console one combo, apollo + UAD plugins. great solution to me. amitiés.

[@teashea1]

Very well produced ----- excellent video with good content, articulate and organized presentation and style - the whole package.

[@joshd265]

Glad someone did this compare. I guessed this might be the result

[@revelationsoundstudio]

Get the SSL UF8 fader controller with the UC1 controller and its night and day above the Softube. The Softube however controls plug ins from other company's really nice.

[@GregLassalle2015]

Wow!!!! Great comparison and review. Just discovered your channel and will definitely be subscribing. I have had a Console 1 for a few years and am very happy with it. Looking to get the Fader 1 to complete the set soon. Kudos on good work!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@kehindea]

Loved this and love your channel brother. Subbed and will be watching more videos.

[@mikeb6686]

Great video, really informative! "And again, that start up screen... always, always wins." Fantastic!

[@tonedowne]

So no discernible difference in the sound then? I don’t like the majority of channels strips that I have bought. I always love them at first and then I start hearing weird things with the eq. The Lindell 80 seems to me to have the most stable tone right now. I would happily take quality over flexibility.

[@DuceIRae]

love the video man. I am also using studio one.. but im using the studiolive 32s as my main control surface and mixer. im wondering how ether of these would work with the studio live. The softtube looks like it might pair better with the console I already have. Idk they both look intresting..

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾 Thank you. I used to have a studio live 32 with console 1. I loved that setup and it was a seamless workflow. I think as long as you’re a Studio One user, you’ll get the most functionality with the Studiolive. Really the UF8 has the least amount of feature functionality for Studio One which is unfortunate. We get no love! I hope they update in the future. That’s a tough one though.

[@teabreakbeats]

Thanks for this - I'm thinking about picking up one of these - I'm running out of desk space!

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾😂I know the struggle.

[@chaddonal4331]

Thanks for this. Super helpful! But dude, what's up with your vocal mics? Gotta work on that game. This is an AUDIO channel!

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Sorry about that😅😅

[@elpmettsol]

A very good presentation sir! However I would like to point out, regarding the SSL UF8, it may an advantage over Consle1 (I don’t know if Console1 has this,) in that the UF8 has the functionality to provide SURROUND SOUND panning features. Perhaps you can investigate to see if this functionality exists in Console1 as well? 🙏

[@tx3851]

Exactly the video I hoped for....thankyou dude :-)

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾No problem. Thanks for watching!

[@iguatemigarin]

Great review, it helped me a lot understanding the difference between both!

[@modeamusic]

Been waiting for this man! Thank you

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾🙏🏾absolutely!

[@joanfranch]

Amazing comparison. Dues the Softube C1 run UAD plugins itself without an UAD audio interface?

[@tylerdengler6960]

No, since you need an interface or satellite to be able to run the UAD plugins. From what is known so far, Console 1 uses the DSP version of the plugins. I’m not sure if they have any plans for UADx (native plugins).

[@brucekai7462]

Love the channel and videos as always dude…. I know you’re going to be doing a video on the UF8, you gotta talk about the GLARING oversight that SSL made by not not adding “track follow” as a feature. Any track I click on with my mouse in studio one SHOULD then appear on one of the faders on the UF8.. this would be the logical step so that it HELPS you navigate your session easily…. The fact that they didn’t makes it double the work to fly around sessions and use the faders with both mouse and controller.. it feels like more of a hassle. So annoying for a $1299 unit.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾🙏🏾Thanks my guy! Right, I would think that would be a standard feature . It just makes sense, I do mention it in the next video. Maybe they can fix it in an update

[@massivebeatzz]

not an oversight at all. It works - track follow is on for most of my sessions on these. Check my reviews. You just need to insert NCS2 as a first plugin in Logic Pro fro Example. Whatever you select on the UF8, your DAW and UC1 follow. You can turn that off, and control 2 plugins at the same time, one with teh UF8, one with teh UC1, which - can be an added feature.

[@brucekai7462]

@@massivebeatzz Are you sure??? So I can click any track in my session, and the UF8 will automatically jump to that channel I have selected in my daw and put that channel on any given fader out of the 8??? If it’s working for you then you must be the only one because I haven’t seen anyone demonstrate this yet… can you point me to a video where you’re doing this please?

[@massivebeatzz]

@@brucekai7462 first test if when you select (SEL) on UF8 then DAW must follow. That's the most important thing , as we are selecting tracks on the hardware, not with a mouse anymore. If you ever need to select it with the mouse, just click on that track, and the UF8 jumps there as well. The UC1 also follows. Absolutely works. Just like any other midi controller. I am going to make a video for this on my channel, since a few people have been asking.

[@brucekai7462]

@@massivebeatzz ok I understand what you mean. I don’t think that’s “track follow” as everyone expects it to be. I’ve owned an SSL console but have been working with a DAW for decades now so I don’t think people can suddenly give up the mouse aspect of their workflow. “Track follow” to me is having a session of 20/30/40 tracks or more, and let’s say I’m editing a track somewhere randomly and I click on it, then that track should suddenly be mirrored on with fader 1 of the UF8 or AT LEAST one of the 8… that’s how the single faderport works and it supremely effective and efficient. I don’t think we are talking about the same thing because Jim over at SSL has mentioned that this isn’t possible and lots have agreed it’s a big oversight for a controller that costs $1299 when the one from presonus at $99 does it straight out the box.

[@djsoulsongs]

Thanks for this, UC1 is sexy AF but atm limited to the 2 plugins which is a major drawback. Appreciate ya vid ^^

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾🙏🏾Yea man , it’s a big one of you had to compare.Thanks for watching!

[@djsoulsongs]

@@ZndBornMixedIt Yeah big time! Ya welcome ^^

[@williamholder2969]

Great video, really informative, just what I needed! Thanks!

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Glad it was helpful!

[@PerryCodes]

This is kind of a moot point with the MkIII, but when you were talking about using the MkII with a Pultec EQ, you didn't mention that there isn't a Q knob for the low and high bands... in effect - this hardware was really suited for SSL-style EQ.

[@YusifRefae]

you just talked me out of buying the new SSL UC1. It looks amazing but I'm stickin' w/ my Softube Console 1 for now! Amazing content by the way, great job & energy

[@Elink321]

I was seriously thinking of selling my Console 1, you changed my mind. I would still like the SSL gear in the future though. Great video.

[@massivebeatzz]

I sold my Console 1. Check my review. Would never go back. It's a wonky and confusing ecosystem - that made me use the mouse half the time - and the plugins don't sound that great. Not even close to these plugins SSL just dropped. They;re on another level. XL9000K is the console with 4000E +G EQ's. Aslo those buss compressors are insane. With oversampling.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Glad I can. I love mines. The SSL stuff is amazing too though.

[@CeZarMusic]

@@massivebeatzz Look here man, I own both Console 1 and the SSL channelstrip + bus compressor. Softube emulate 4k and 9k consoles, SSL emulates their own digital console, so you're not comparing plugin coding, you're comparing what you like more. There's a few of us who like the analog emulations, you like the digital one, and that's fine, but there's no "better" unless you get 2 plugins that are the same strip, which in this case, are absolutely not intended to be.

[@massivebeatzz]

@@CeZarMusic It's not a digital emulation. it' san official, more recent, and slightly better emulation of the oder Softube. SSL did not emulate a digital console at all. You confuse yourself . They emulated a 9000K plus 4000 E+G EQ on this one. It's brand new, and better than anything Console 1 has done. not by a mile, but it is better. Why is that a surprise to you? SSL cannot do a better job at emulating their own console than a 3rd party company...lmao?

[@CeZarMusic]

@@massivebeatzz Why is that a surprise to me? Simple: 1- Sound test, 2-I've read about the duende series from SSL, from which all the new ones come from, over on gearspace, from a guy that was representing SSL over there, so that's why I know that their plugins were not intended to be an analog emulation of any console, but rather the algorithm from the A series consoles from back in the 90's, console 1 was being compared back then with the SSL plugins and the dude wrote about what they actually did.

[@officialWWM]

Love your videos mate, they are so well made!

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Hey Thanks Man. I really appreciate it 🙏🏾

[@officialWWM]

ZndBorn Mixed It I appreciate your effort!

[@theurbanmonks1]

Thanks a lot! Great video (and sweet looking setup 😏)

[@maxuno8524]

I am looking to invest in one of these, so happy you made this vid. Now I can make an informed decision. But what I really want to know is: how does it sound? How does it stack up against the BX 9000 and 4000 emulations? Is it worth jumping that ship, for the sound?

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

No problem. Thanks for watching! In My opinion I wouldn’t jump ship because of sound, because all the emulations truly sound great. I would def jump ship for the workflow though.

[@maxuno8524]

@@ZndBornMixedIt I have never experienced a tactile workflow. Mine is only with a mouse and keyboard. But I will give it a try, if I don't like it, I can always go back to left and right clicks

[@dylangadwa3119]

Thanks for this! Givin' the people what they want! I only wish that Console 1 worked with Plugin Alliance strips. I actually had a chat with Softube support about it just last week. Not happening. "Too much work on the back end.". Bummer, cause from what I have heard, Dirk and PA are down for it.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Damn that sucks, because that makes a ton of sense to be able to control the PA plugs.

[@dylangadwa3119]

​@@ZndBornMixedIt... LOL right? :) My point to the guys at Softube was are we *really* living in a world where people are expected to by a proprietary controller for their Softube plugs, another for Waves, another one for Plugin Alliance?" Beccause that's just dumb. The existence of Console 1 on it's own is not going to keep people 100% loyal to a single ecosystem. Softube could dominate the market right now and simply force the other plugin devs to comply with their standards. Either way, I agree with your assessment that Console 1 is a great option. Your explanation and points regarding the physical layout and other upsides make a lot of sense. Lastly, I've also heard an unsubstantiated assertion on another YT vid saying that the SSL does not transmit MIDI CC's. If true, I simply could not buy UC1 until that was sorted out. Anyways, thanks again and keep up the good work!

[@flipnap2112]

I was under the impression you could do a midi learn function with console 1. you just have to quit the main running app. I could be wrong

[@kadiummusic]

If Console 1 worked with other top of the range plugin suites like PA and T-Racks etc I would buy it, I own about 6 Softube plugins but that's not enough to warrant buying the console 1 as I'm going to be spending the same if not more time on the mouse which is not the point!

[@flipnap2112]

@@kadiummusic honestly the absolute best investment I ever made was in the midi twister fighter. the knobs are packed so closely I can literally and easily find my way across every knob. they were out of stock for a loooong time. absolutely wonderful. im on LPX so ive save out "modes" for controllers. When I. need to use, say a compressor? I have myipad running touch portal and I click the button to activate it, then away I go. midi twister even has LEDS to track position, oddly I rarely look at it though.

[@chrisk.6246]

Excellent review, and amazing production value--nicely done, sir!

[@UpliftedProductions]

I'm sure SSL will be adding more console strips to the UC1. Do you think Console 1's edge will last for long?

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

I think they will too. I think as long as the comparison is only console 1 v Uc1 Softube is winning. It’s a little different once you add the uf8

[@massivebeatzz]

not many - it's a XL9000K plus 4000E and G EQ switch. That matches the layout. Won't work with other plugins really. I'm glad - there is zero need to go down that rabbit holwe.

[@flipnap2112]

what I dont understand is.. WHY did SSL make this unit SO wide? it could have been at least half this size. I mean its a midi controller so theres no physical reason for this. ive NEVER bought gear and said "Man I wish this was MUCH bigger!". Theres a reason 500 modules took off.. this is prosumer gear and most have space restrictions.

[@darkcharmrecords]

probably to justify the high price for what this actually does. Like going to a restaurant and the prices are very high BUT they give you masive plates o food. - marketing to get you to buy

[@bikermanfast13]

Softube Console 1: I would like to know if when loaded a UAD plugin all the parameters are displayed or only a part of them. Thank you all

[@alvaromorello]

"Remember when Dubstep was a thing?" LOL Eager to see which system you stick with.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

😂Man I’m struggling 😆

[@alvaromorello]

@@ZndBornMixedIt First world problems!

[@Dot_je]

5 years after CS1, SSL still lives in the analogue world where you manually need to adjust every knob instead copy/paste. Also, the SSL channel selection is a hardware feature only, while it was easy to implement that in the software UI. I complained @ SSL .. they did not respond (or seem to care). The CS1 onscreen app is my complaint.. why does it just load after an active console one plugin?

[@MrManumendes]

Great Video!!! Im using Pro Tools and the Apollo Universe. I love the fact to Control UA‘s Console App and the UAD PlugIns with the Console1, especially for Tracking. But I can‘t control Pro Tools Faders, Write automation and so on??? I like the concept of the Softube much more than the SSL (always speaking of the combination with the Fader Pack). But Fader, Pan and Automation Control is essential for me to use with it in PT

[@DjRuthful]

Thanks ZndBorn for this review, it really helps to get a closer look at the two. Great video and great editing 👍🤘

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾🙏🏾Thank you man!💪🏾💪🏾

[@ncyancy]

Thank you so much for doing this video! You saved me the $849. It’s easy to get excited about a new product, but your points of what makes the console 1 so special, were clear and spot on reminding me why the console 1 is an excellent device for tactile excelerated workflow. Looking forward to the next video you make about the combination of both SSL units. Also wondering if you will keep your consoles or sell them or maybe keep both.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾Absolutely man! Thanks for watching. I love my Console 1 and the workflow. The Uc1 has a few tricks and it is an inspiring unit, but if I’m choosing between the 2…….”aaannd stilllllll!!!!”

[@stevem-h3562]

+1 I hadnt given C1 any thought until now. However......

[@facksvillain2296]

Peace, do you think you can do a small studio tour in the future? Your setup is crazy!!!

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Thanks man! Yessir I have an updated Studio Tour in the queue

[@facksvillain2296]

@@ZndBornMixedIt 👌

[@Steviee8]

Thanks for the video. Very, too the point, and honest Peace!

[@NyakzOTSD]

More importantly I want to know your room dimensions and how much acoustic padding you have and where you purchased it

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

My room is roughly 10x12 - Ive been accumulating acoustic treatment from a number of different places. Mostly from Reverb ,EBay, and a couple of local studios.

[@flipnap2112]

tip: moving blankets are great!

[@JanBiasi]

08:16 With the latest software update you can also switch to the overview with the "mode" knob in Console 1! :D

[@ArguZ72]

Yes yes...but what about the faders ? I am THAT close to cell my Console 1/Fader setup and get the SSL pair instead for UAD LUNA because i ned the mixer to be integrated, not hidden in Console plugins

[@XanderEwald]

Love your setup, very tasteful!

[@riktascale4]

Which other mic are you using other than the one on the elbow man? That one sounds cleaner.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🤦🏾‍♂️yep. My Screen grab software failed me 😅 and cut out my audio. Had to use the overhead cams mic which wasn’t set up properly. Lessons being learned over here 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@FKA_Skull]

They are both great. Console 1 has the advantage of emulating different consoles. We only have 2 SSL consoles on the SSL ecosystem right now, hopefully they’ll get 3rd party consoles at some point.

[@DanielStaff_]

In studio one if I was to click any channel with the mouse, would uc1 follow that selection on the hardware? Thanks

[@jcpuga]

New Sub! Love the content! 👍🛎

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@edcorrado]

Thanks for this. You're very entertaining.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾🙏🏾Thank you and thanks for watching 💪🏾

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

The Drive and Character knob do a lot of the heavy lifting in my mixes, can't imagine mixing without it. I love the sound of the SSL Native plugins the new oversampling on the bus comp is great and the high end on the EQ shelf especially in E mode is stunning, but the filter knobs are back to front I always reach for the LP when I want the HP. I'll stick to Console 1 & Faderport 8 and use the SSL plugins traditionally without the controller.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

I get it man! The drive knobs are special sauce.

[@pixelwash9707]

What this video showed straight off was that the two SSL controllers aren’t exactly the same height, which struck me straight off as a bit lame on their part...

[@massivebeatzz]

they are. You can adjust teh bottom feet in like 55 different weis, and fine tune with leveling screws on top.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

What massivebeatzz said.

[@pixelwash9707]

ZndBorn Mixed It - Obviously an optical illusion, now I’ve looked elsewhere, but when he holds them up to the camera in the opening shots of this vid, they do look different depths

[@massivebeatzz]

@@pixelwash9707 well I have a few videos on my channel about them- and I look at hem now. If the angle is the same, they are identical - to me.

[@pixelwash9707]

massivebeatzz Screen grab of an early frame of your YT vid....hopefully you can now see why they seem to be slightly different sizes imgur.com/a/nvN74zS

[@kadiummusic]

So SSL's version 2 sounds the best, the UC1 looks and feels great and comes with the 360 software free! That's the one for as I already have the SSL Version 2 plugins.

[@SwimTeamEPTX]

While my softtube is awesome. I find the uf8 as a controller is ok. But the UC1 gives me a different flavor and it just sounds right. But gonna use them both.

[@BrickBriscoe]

Very helpful! Thanks!!

[@wmextra]

Some how I’m looking forward to getting UC1 and UF8 Do you guys think it can make a difference in sound when recording from your home in a untreated room

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Technically It wont do much for the sound of your recordings, but can def help in the workflow and mixing of said recordings 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@yamansitar6153]

nice one bro ,what kind of hat is that looks great .thanks

[@kingdommindset1462]

Hi. Great review! I want to know why you have 2 single faders?

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🙏🏾 Thank you! My original faderport I had for years. Then they came out with v2 and I wanted the extra functionality and couldn’t bring myself to sell the original 😂

[@davidjdove]

Hey man.. I was really into gear in the 80s.. wish I stuck with it, but then I had children.. the tradeoffs 🙄😂🤣

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

😂I am trying to squeeze in as much as I can before I have to start selling mines 😂

[@davidjdove]

@@ZndBornMixedIt 😀 looks like you have enough to keep the buy and sells busy for a long long time man. Cheers

[@boomish69]

Shame years later Logic still doesn’t support Console 1 unlike all other DAW’s! Def got the best SSL emulation out there. Have you seen you can get custom knobs for the Console 1 , so cool to have colours on it. I presume it’s the video refresh rate that is making the SSL blink so weirdly?

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Ive been waiting for logic to catch up! I did see the custom knobs, just never pulled the trigger. I had colored rubber bands for the knobs that worked well for a while 😂 It was the shutter speed that my overhead cam was set to. Didn’t make the proper adjustments. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@flipnap2112]

I think maybe those are knob stickers. I know a lot of peeps do that with midi controllers

[@brunofonseca5004]

But (Console 1 + Console 1 fader) VS. (UC1 + UF8)... Who wins ?

[@claytonmurrayguitar]

Really wanting the SSL, cause I love SSL. But within the first 3 and a half minutes I think I’m swayed to the Softube for the versatility. Hmm..

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

💪🏾I didn’t think I’d be so pro Console 1 until I was making the video, but yeah. Things are a bit different when you add a UF8 though

[@LocaliLLocano]

The track follow buttons on console 1 helps a great deal. I’m sure if SSL UC1 implements it then it will be a closer race. I also modded my console 1 knobs with SSL like knobs and that helped. I also like to work on my mix balance before adding master bus compression so if you balance out your frequencies and levels in console 1 print it at -6dB or lower then you can do your touch ups in a separate session. I prefer that way so I don’t rely on the bus compressor for everything"

[@massivebeatzz]

forget versatility - dedicated firm workflow is what it is..the buttons on UC1 are hardwired. Softube also never works 100% right. Too many variables, that are a hassle. Teh UF8 can do all otehr plugins, but as dedicated ssl9000K emulation goes, thsi is it.

[@gratefulmusicsound8337]

I don't know but I like your personality!, Subs!

[@joechapman8208]

Great to see a direct comparison rather than just separate product reviews. For me, I'm so attached to Softube's plugin range and their quality standard that I'd probably want Console1 even if it had been slightly worse than the SSL hardware, but I'm glad to hear it's better in many ways.

[@Modernlionmusicofficial]

Thank you for doing this video, I’ve been very interested in the comparison!

[@teashea1]

And now, with the UC1, UF8 and UF8, the situation is quite different. The UC1 was just a first step.

[@lincolnmmitchell]

What daw are you using?

[@lincolnmmitchell]

ahh studio one.... nm

[@jordibuch]

The UC1 is seriously lacking (at least in Cubase). It should have the Auto Select function when selecting a channel in Cubase (like Softube Console 1 does) to be able to work on a selected channel without having to open the plugin for that channel to have it selected, since the advantage is being able to work with the UC1 without having to touch the plugin. With Console 1, you just select a channel, either with Cubase or the mix controller (iCon Qcon Pro G2 in my case), and Console 1 controls that channel. That is useful. Having to open the channel plugin or search for it with the wheel is not helpful. I hope they implement it in the next firmware update.

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

Are you kidding the uc1 doesn't auto select??? That's amazing lol why would they do that

[@jordibuch]

@@AtTheSourceStudios If you look closely, my comment was posted over a year ago (when UC1 came out). In its first version, UC1 did not have the Auto Select function implemented. The second version of UC1 implemented that feature for Logic and some other DAWs, but not for Cubase. We had to wait several months, but it was finally implemented for Cubase, and now it works perfectly. Please inform yourself before commenting.

[@joserodriguez5507]

I used to own the console 1 and fader. They were nothing but problems on my MacBook Pro. I kept them for months, boxed up and unused waiting for some software updates to come and fix them and guess what? The software updates came months later and they still sucked! Didn’t fix the issues I had with them. They still kept disconnecting, computer wouldn’t recognize them and I had to restart the computer numerous times, some of the buttons would become unresponsive and would stay like that even after restarts. These Softube consoles were purchased new from Sweetwater. They were complete junk, a waste of time and money. Mediocre ass hell!! I bought the new ssl uf8 and uc1 and they work exactly as advertised with zero issues whatsoever, as it should, like every other profesional piece of hardware does.

[@massivebeatzz]

agreed! SSL wins hands down.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

I still love my Console 1/Fader 1 but I’m loving the UC1 UF8 combo. I’ve had no issues with it either 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@damianjacobs2193]

I know Console 1 works with Reaper and CSI making it useable on all vst plugins.....hopefully SSL didnt use propietary coding for this soon to be paperweight.

[@REOvolt]

For all Studio One users. I hacked the mackie mcu script to make track follow possible from the UF8 encoder. It makes a huge difference for some. Read my reply below for the link where I show how this works.

[@REOvolt]

Here’s the video. Script link is in the description: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZq9eXWbba6hl6c

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

This is 🔥 Thanks!

[@sparkleflowb.v.2969]

@@ZndBornMixedIt Should you make another video about the UF8 (perhaps in combo with the UC1) you could show this workflow improvement. I'm sure a lot of Studio One users will be thankful for this. And a big thumbs up for your content. It's very insightful, but most of all very entertaining. Keep doing what you're doing!

[@Canatend]

Console 1 = Become a jack of all but Jedi of none. UC1 = Jedi Master of one. Forever. Blind folded.

[@thegroove2000]

The problem is that none of the software sounds ike the actual hardware.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

🤷🏾‍♂️ I just go for what sounds good

[@flipnap2112]

its technically impossible. the real question is "can you tell". id wager 99 percent of people couldn't tell. its like the whole "I can tell an analogue recording VS digital" most cant and it doesnt matter. unless youre a purist with millions of dollars its diminishing returns.

[@alexkourelis]

“Remember when dubstep was a thing?” Haha, yep

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

😂😂

[@michaels81]

Thanks from Germany.

[@cutseencinematics]

what is the black unit in the turquoise flight case? just curious

[@kurtimusik]

Looks like the Dangerous Music 2 Bus+ :)

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

Yessir the Dangerous 2bus+

[@WavetableMetaphysics]

I love this tape deffly top notch

[@RadiAsian]

thank you

[@morbidmanmusic]

"I'd be happy using either one" verses the video title... It's not even close. Hmmm

[@joldschool64]

You can tell things are going back to hardware pretty soon there will not be any more software everything will be standalone so we are going back to where we came from.

[@flipnap2112]

1970's "man I wish I had a computer to help with this stuff".. 2020: "man I wish I had analog gear to help with this stuff"

[@ghstnt_music]

I don’t like console one it’s sound cheap . Better go for original SSL and bought uc1 and UF8 .