Solution for Blocky Trees and Ugly Textures in Flight Simulator 2024 FIX

[@HowBigistheMap]

NOTE: maybe you have to RESTART your game in order to make this work. I'm also walking across the map in MF2024. I'm not walking across the whole map of course, that would take 8000 hours, but I'm going to walk for a pretty long time. I walk across the entre country I live in. Here are the links to those videos: Here's Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGWroatmbMpjnLs Here's Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXqnYommlKuBhpo Here's Part 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZraZq2hm5adesk Here's Part 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnKkgKh8pptoo7s Here's Part 5: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6qQkn6mi6yHZ6M Here's Part 6: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioWagGeNpM-Bnrc Here's Part 7: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3fMZ3uAeLOLfs0 Here's Part 8: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imbYdX-Pprulqas Here's Part 9: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pomoYYRuYrN-oNU Here's Part 10: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4akep2rhNOJmbM Here's Part 11, End of The Netherlands: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHLCmqWniKxjgqc

[@ArcanePath360]

So when you turn off photogrammetry you have to restart the game? That sucks since it takes a good 5 minutes to get back into the sim. Seems to me that this game is better if you are a high flyer. It certainly isn't made for walking around

[@HowBigistheMap]

@@ArcanePath360 Still looks pretty good when you're walking.

[@ArcanePath360]

@@HowBigistheMap So for low ground flying and walking: Turn it off and restart the sim, then for high altitude, turn it on and restart the sim. Seems very impractical as a solution. They really need to fix this. It's nice being able to see the Millennium Eye up close with lots of detail, but not when it's surrounded by melted buildings and trees made out of single polygons.

[@HowBigistheMap]

@@ArcanePath360 I totally agree with you.

[@mak8836]

Since I'm mostly flying in a Flight Simulator I'm not bothered at all with the Photogrammetry, actually I'm glad it exists as it makes for the most realistic looking cities ever as long as you stay in the air. But thanks for the tip.

[@CCitis]

It looks so bad though from the air too....

[@wisehat_yt]

looks bad in the air too tbf

[@animaxima8302]

@@wisehat_yt only on potato PCs

[@wisehat_yt]

@@animaxima8302 even on good ones it was bad

[@Lostania0]

From a high stand point of view it’s true that it changes eveything. But from the ground, with photogrametry off, it’s just no more Paris ;)

[@HowBigistheMap]

Well, it's a start. I think they will improve everything with patches or maybe in a new Flight Simulator.

[@philiphookham8135]

Thank you for taking the time to post this, it's very helpful. I enjoy flying helicopters and low level aircraft like the Jetson in VR so this will massively improve my enjoyment of the sim'. I've subscribed to your channel in the hope of more quick tips like this.

[@HowBigistheMap]

Thansk for the sub! Even though I don't make many tips-videos. Most of the time I walk across maps. :)

[@greenlightgaming4242]

Shouldn't have to turn off photo geometry 2 get the buildings to loading properly at ground level that is ridiculous they should have had this figured out before the game launched cloud gaming is not there yet

[@TheSound0fLegends]

So what exactly does photogrammetry do? It seems to suggest it does the opposite of what it is intended to do in fs2024

[@clubdeejay]

Well, it does exactly what it's meant to do and enables photogrammetry. What you see when it's enabled is the scanned 3D geometry and images of the real world buildings. When it's off you are instead seeing generic placeholder buildings which do not really match the shape or appearance of the real thing.

[@byronmcduffy3485]

We need a keypress or an automatic way to switch on or off with altitude change.

[@HowBigistheMap]

Yes. Because now we have to get out of the game and change this and then get into the game again. It's not really convenient.

[@brettkoski]

Great tip for those of us who want to explore everything this sim has to offer!

[@GulfCoastTim]

You know what? You are right and I never even thought about this. I always leave photogrammetry on. That said, your simple comparisons show that both on and off is great. Example, I make videos so when I land and walk around I may switch it off at ground level. Then once above say 2000ft, switch it back on. In fact, a giant building spawns on the entire parking area at Trent Lott Int (KPQL) that shouldn't be there. I'm thinking with photogrammetry off, it probably won't be there, so I need to try that. Thanks for sharing this info.

[@HowBigistheMap]

You're welcome! I see a lot of interesting videos about Flight Simulator 2024 on your channel. Nice! www.youtube.com/@GulfCoastTim

[@FlightSimMuseum]

Nice demo of this tech point in the sim. Thanks for posting!

[@HowBigistheMap]

It was my pleasure!

[@juanrmarquez4824]

Thank you very much, this correction of yours improved the simulator by 70%

[@HowBigistheMap]

Glad I could help.

[@sugarsmith645]

They should have AI generated replacement building textures. Take the image of the building from the higher altitude and upscale it, then replace autogenerated texture with upscaled realistic texture.

[@HowBigistheMap]

Maybe they will do that in MFS2028. Great idea.

[@alecmarcoux5108]

Or make a partnership with google maps (or apple maps) and scan all street view images then create 3d textures of buildings and everything using ai

[@jensleck547]

Looking like "the Day after tomorow"😅🖖

[@alheeley]

I didnt buy msfs24 to walk around cities at street level. For mainly GA flight at up to 3000ft what looks best and is there a hit on frame rate? This could be useful information. I'm going to have to try it now...

[@thomas_ger4098]

Interesting tip. I asking myself if a tool like AutoFPS could do this switching…

[@JMFRO92]

Seems like they would switch that you'd want it on for things to look awesome thanks for the tip!

[@HowBigistheMap]

You're very welcome!!

[@sigrid714]

Glad you showed this. The Photogrammetry was why I was hesitant to get this game because the ground level videos I'd seen previously looked like Google Earth VR. When you're walking around Google Earth VR, it feels like you're the last person on earth after an apocalypse where some kind of alien weapon melted all the cars and buildings and cardboardized all the water. But was surprised to see your walks because the scenery was so detailed. I mean there's still an uncanny valley, Backrooms-ish monotony to the AI generated buildings, but it's leagues better than wandering what feels like a paper mache model of earth. It'll be amazing if they can improve the AI generation one day to where we get GTA V level of details. Maybe MSFS 2034...

[@HowBigistheMap]

That would be so great!!! And when NPCs would walk in MFS 2034 wearing the clothes that are common in a certain country.

[@FTStratLP]

Sorry, but this so called solution we now have known for the past 4 years, because we have the same issue also in MSFS 2020 since its launch. But switching off photogrammetry means your sim will look like FSX used to ook 25 years ago. So that's no solution at all. The real solution is get a better PC and/or lower your sim settings (not talking about photogrammetry) and/or uograde to a faster internet connection with more bandwith.

[@HowBigistheMap]

Maybe you're right. Stilll though, my PC can run the newest games and buidlings still look melted in Photogrammetry-mode.

[@Chompy420]

You said off is better outside cities, but didnt show that part.. im thinking of leaving this off the entire playtime

[@HowBigistheMap]

Yeah, I'm not really sure yet. I also think I'll leaaving this off the whole time. I don't want melted buildings in my videos.

[@andrewjamez]

Why are photogrammetry cities in 2020 updates now so shit in 2024?

[@orionconstellation2]

do you know how to make crj work on fs24

[@INA_Explorer]

How do you explore the world in that way? Im thinking on buying the FS24 to do that

[@HowBigistheMap]

In this video I explain how to walk in MFS2024: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWOmhouth7Nrg5o

[@vangoghoff5521]

Thanks for this :) it's a shame that U can't toggle it to a button in VR.

[@HowBigistheMap]

Yeah, absolutely! You really have to get out of the game.

[@surfercharliel7928]

1:20 let’s land. No cool crashes, explored other videos of why..?

[@surfercharliel7928]

0:15 NFW… watching and subbing if this works for me. I’ll be here till then. Lms. Thank you for the intro tease… 0:51

[@joscusjoe]

Certes c'est une astuce, mais en fait c'est l'échec de cette photogrammétrie. De plus soit "avec", et c'est une ville bombardée, ou éboulée, et des menhirs partout, ou "sans" et c'est une ville pas du tout réaliste, voire une ville fantôme, mortifère et désespérante. Donc pour des villes telles que l'ont aimerait visiter, la technologie actuelle ne le permet sans doute pas encore, ou n'est pas encore bien exploitée.🤔 ii

[@HowBigistheMap]

True.

[@jeffbieber2243]

I tried both on and off and it made no difference still looks like crap !!!!!

[@magicnorm2036]

Same here, no change.

[@coryhelms1106]

Same.

[@HowBigistheMap]

You have to start the game all over. I mean, really quit the game and go into your game again to make this work. The melted buildings and blocky trees will be gone.

[@noaharkadedelgado]

Could you go across the maps for Skate 1 and 2? Always curious about those 🙏😢❤️

[@HowBigistheMap]

Thanks for the tip. I will take a look at it.

[@marektomczynski5768]

With photogrammetry off wtc in NY disappeared….

[@HowBigistheMap]

Yes, it has advantages and disadvantages.

[@rcpilot9963]

Thanks Man, you are great!!!

[@bennyboypolo]

It's serverside and not to do with the in game settings. It depends on your allocated bandwidth and rolling cache. I put rolling cache as 100gb and have never had blocky textures like that.

[@HowBigistheMap]

Thanks for the information.

[@poochies0316]

Really ? , if that’s true thx for the tip

[@poochies0316]

@@bennyboypolo put my cache at 120 gig did squat for blocky textures and stalagmites popping up everywhere thx anyhoo, but gotta have photogrammetry on for the beautiful mountains so I stay outta cities for now

[@bennyboypolo]

@@poochies0316 Damn it.

[@PS2Sniper]

Always look where you're going to spond with your own plane #1 lost carrer lost my plane spond on a river #2 I lost my career by losing my plane b/c spond inside a forest The game is pretty broken

[@HowBigistheMap]

Yeah, I guess the game need some patches...

[@PS2Sniper]

@HowBigistheMap I don't know if I can play no more. #3 non my control works after a skip I had to restart the game #4 I was fine it everything was good the plain dive down It needs plenty of work on it. Many ppl won have fun and quit the simulation 3/10

[@Tatsukoa808]

Someone needs to make an App for this. Above 3k it switches on and below it switches off.

[@HowBigistheMap]

That would be very handy!

[@geolpilot7036]

All well and good but you do not explain the fundamental reason for the failure of photogrammetry at low altitudes/ close up. Its this lack of understanding that has allowed Microsoft to make suck exaggerated claims about their aerial-photo tech. We all fell for it and many many have spent hours and $$$$$ trying to fix their computers or update their graphic cards. Yes the fix is to turn off photogrammetry for low altitudes but not really a fix is it!

[@HowBigistheMap]

Nope. But this is what it is. Maybe it's prefect in the next flight simulator.

[@Freeway7]

Not a fix cuz you loose photo mode so yeah it look a bit better BUT its crapy picture and not Photo quality

[@HowBigistheMap]

I think it's better to put the photogrammtery on when you're flying (high), but when you want to take a walk through cities you should switch it off. But hey, who wants to walk in a flight simulator?

[@josephf2157]

Does this also work in MSFS 2020?

[@HowBigistheMap]

I don't know. Somebody else who knows about this?

[@HowBigistheMap]

It seems MFS2020 also had this same option.

[@jameslee-pevenhull5087]

Microsoft Walk Simulator.

[@einherz]

doom vs duke nukem.

[@HowBigistheMap]

Hahahaha. No, it already looks like Quake 2.

[@einherz]

@@HowBigistheMap nah. quake universe is working only night time. doom and duke are universal.

[@MrSuperpaco]

Man, this is not a fix. You apply a fix when something is broken. In this case using photogrametry is the way the game is meant to be played. So, if you play a game with ray tracing on and you get poor fps, would you say that a fix for that problem is disabling ray tracing?

[@HowBigistheMap]

Well, those blocky trees and melted houses look pretty broken to me.

[@speedbird8326]

I'll give FS2024 one thing, for a "flight simulator", it sure does an awesome job of simulating giraffes and deer. The truth is MSFS2024 is an utter bug-ridden disgrace. From the disastrous launch, when they should have known about server loads, to the hundreds and hundreds of bugs in the program. Airports missing terminals, entire airports missing, airborne jetways, aircraft with wings missing, avatars hanging upside down out of flying aircraft, blurry terrain, CTDs etc etc. It's utterly pathetic. They rushed it out and they knew it wasn't ready. It's going to take at least a full year before it's even close to fixed, if ever. If you're wondering who the beta testers are, it's the people who bought this joke of a program. I got a refund as I won't reward their incompetence and I won't pay for the privilege of being a beta-tester. And yet you'll find fanboys on the forums and in the comments section who defend this pile of garbage !

[@HowBigistheMap]

You said: "They rushed it out and they knew it wasn't ready." And unfortunately that happens to a lot of game these days. Then they come with patches and more patches...

[@StephaneSOUBIRAN]

So now, it is the same than P3D ?! With ORBX add-on even. Why buying MSFS ?

[@Gary_Howe]

But it's flight simulator, not walking simulator.

[@joscusjoe]

En effet, mais c'est asobo qui semble promettre cela, alors qu'ils ne le peuvent pas. Alors qu'ils disent la vérité.

[@IllusiveDude]

Yes it is

[@guilhermegraeff8588]

This is supposed to be an evolution from 2020, not a step backwards.

[@HowBigistheMap]

No, it's a walking simulator and sometimes you can fly a plane. 😁

[@scampaboy]

Have you landed a helicopter at any of the 1000’s of helipads at ground level in the sim ?

[@ksks6802]

This is obviously for people who made the mistake of purchasing this game....

[@flyingpedal]

Interesting thanks

[@martinpatterson9015]

Massive improvement on Xbox thanks

[@texasboy101]

Did it work ?

[@martinpatterson9015]

​@@texasboy101Yes it Did Looks so Good now

[@HowBigistheMap]

Nice to hear that!

[@mike-ij9lv]

This game is stil ass on xbox horrible render distance with silky washed out terrain because of it. Ill never play this game cause i dont wanna spend 4k on a pc just for one gsme to look good lol

[@texasboy101]

Well its not working on xbox

[@HowBigistheMap]

Maybe when you restart the whole game.

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

Doesn't work lol of you have slow internet

[@hpharold23]

wow the more you know.

[@ericveschi4904]

If you prefer to walk, get GTA5. And learn what is photogrammetry and how it works. In flight simulator, you have the word "flight". The main purpose.

[@HowBigistheMap]

I know, GTA V is awesome, I walked acroos that map. I love that game world. But it''s just great that you can go to any place in the world in MFS2024.

[@burtleboeuf1429]

Why did I waste 4 minutes of my life on this clickbait garbage?

[@HowBigistheMap]

Hold up. Did you change the option and restart the game? The blocky trees must be gone.

[@burtleboeuf1429]

@@HowBigistheMap Yes! it worked perfectly! I also applied your philosophy to my car and took the engine out because it was too noisy when I drove it. Now, perfect! Thank you! You should diversify into health advice (TBF anything you'd say would be far more sensible than what's already out there).

[@natedisrud]

​@burtleboeuf1429 really man? Why do you feel the need to act like this... move along, and don't bother looking back.