Some precision shooting fundamentals

[@QuitYoJibby-JabbinFool]

Again......THE GREATEST LONG DISTANCE SHOOTING CHANNEL EVER CREATED 👍

[@markandsamafterwork]

Lol, cheers Man, thanks

[@gruntardo7519]

Great video Mark, always impressed with your delivery and doing it in one take. That conveys your knowledge and ability to articulate the subject matter without a script.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Man, Cheers

[@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093]

I love your consistent message: think logically about what you are trying to achieve and how you can achieve it and then conform your process to your own subjective needs. So simple and useful. Appreciate all you guys do. Can't wait to buy my 3rd brake from you guys.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Awesome, Cheers Man

[@davidholmes4088]

Spot on. Not only applicable solely to shooting. It’s like the “practice makes perfect” mantra. I was told “practice makes permanent” so make sure your practise is applicable and correct for the task 1st.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Yep, Cheers

[@sgulden6276]

Very appreciated topic, Mark. I have cycled for 36 years, and when shooting prone, I simply can not splay my feet out horizontally. In the last five years or so, many other shooters have commented that I need to get my feet turned out flat. None of them could explain why this was so important, but it must be done.Your vid. today made me feel a lot better about my "issue". Thanks again.-Sean

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Sean, Cheers

[@markf3229]

That splaying your feet was borne about by snipers who are taught that in a prone position the least showing the better so you dont get your feet and heels shot off. Do what is comfortable that sets you in a comfortable strong prone position

[@mossranchoutdoors7249]

Great video. Best ELR channel I've watched. Always explained in a simple manner which means you understand the subject matter fully. Thanks again👍 -Wade

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Man, glad you liked

[@opsoverseas]

I quite agree, we are the nut behind the butt. Another crystal clear vlog Mark, keep 'em coming !

[@markandsamafterwork]

Yep, Cheers

[@wayneschenk5512]

Spot on so many variables with the nugget on the end of the gun.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Lol, Yep, cheers

[@mrmayhemstewart5138]

Makes total sense thanks for another great lesson mate cheers Yogi

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers Yogi

[@JohnRoberts71]

Great content thanks for sharing, very informative

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks John

[@lovetoflylovetofly3843]

Makes perfect sense to me. Great info! Thanks

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers Man, thanks

[@ShakazuluJones]

Sound advice indeed. I found that relying on catma rather than dogma has served me well over the years, especially on social media platforms. Carry on guys, thanks.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Lol, cheers

[@waldo713]

As always Mark great info presented in a way that we can all take something from it. Well done mate. Thank you 👍👍

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Waldo

[@tobyjo57]

My goodness Mark..You say your not an expert....Very few guys on this planet are at your level of knowledge, achivement, skill and expertise..As an adverage novice trying to improve I totaly agree with you about the body function and/or position..My first ever 5 shots with a rifle were as a very young boy in the local Army Cadets with and rifle shooting off an acurate zero and not given and instruction or sighting shots..The only part of my instructors briefing that was any use to me was that he explained Basic Body Position in prone..... BUT he said "" Lay As You Feel Most Comfortable""..... I did...I earned a Marsman Badge for that. Thank You for sharing your skills with us guys out here.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Toby, Cheers man, all the best

[@walterluiz4694]

Very good my friends.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Walter

[@geoffkeeler5106]

I don't have any letters after my name either Mark (I have been called quite a few things mind), but I should say that your take on the physics and mechanics of shooting are pretty spot on. And you're right about the squishy human too; I remember watching a young lady shooter firing a 1911 prone, and you could clearly see the shock of recoil travel almost down to her feet. And you're also right about us stuffing it all up - I would sometimes say to people that pistol shooting was simple: get as steady a sight picture as you can (and if you don't like it lower the gun and try again), squeeze the trigger back and let it go off when it wants to, and repeat. If they don't all go through the same hole then you're doing something I haven't told you to do. Needless to say, I would then demonstrate exactly this by shooting a group, rather than a single hole! Anyway, I agree wholeheartedly, basic principles are ok, but it's best to find what suits you and not contort yourself into an uncomfortable or ineffective position. Keep up the good work sir!

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Geoff, Cheers man

[@stacykenyon5863]

I tried the standing square on the tripod after seeing others do it and it just wasn't natural for me, nothing sat where it should, my eye relief was out of whack. I went back to my offhand stance and put my left hand under the butt as I do when shooting bench and everything was perfectly natural again. Cheers for the vid, you always seem to put things in to perspective.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers Stacy, thanks

[@robjohnson6747]

I don’t know why I even bother watching other random videos ! You always make sense ! Can’t wait to get my degree from the 4AW seminar 😁

[@markandsamafterwork]

Lol, Cheers Rob, thanks man

[@fredfleming2455]

Hi there Mark, great timing as I've been thinking of tripods lately. Everything you're saying makes very good LOGICAL sense... and in most cases, a logical approach tends to work better.... cheers fred

[@markandsamafterwork]

thanks Fred, Cheers

[@andrewmckinley6571]

Great information as always

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers Andrew

[@kajetandziebaj6405]

Thanks for challenging the 'only way to do it'.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers

[@drakkondarkblood6638]

I come from a smallbore back ground where it tends to be position, position, position, get your shooting leg in a straight line with the rifle, then your other side in line with your sling arm, so you basically make a triangle. Now doing mostly fullbore I tend to work with newer TR/FC etc shooter around my club and I've found a lot of them obviously talk to other shooter and go on youtube and I tend to hear the "I was told or this video said", so what I do is explain why said thing/s tend to make for better shooting, then follow it up with a "but" if what you're currently doing isn't causing any problems and your comfortable and can repeat it, then really there isn't a reason to change. I've found that Comfort is honestly one of the more important things than anything else.

[@markandsamafterwork]

thanks Man

[@wolverinekut]

Thank you Sir for lesson 👍😎

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers Kut Kut

[@thecheapshot1065]

You are so incredibly just down to earth in the way that you look at your shooting and analyze your shooting I'm envious. I get to the range and I look at my notes I try to remember my positioning. I can shoot good when I'm at the range but it seems like my first few shots are always trying to get right back to how I was the last time I shot good finding my drift and my windage and the feel that you get when your environmental conditions are affecting your shot and you need to adjust. Once I'm dialed in I'm dialed in but I want to be able to make first round hits on very consistent basis I don't want it to be second third or even 6th round hit. That's my goal as a shooter and hopefully I can implement some of what you're saying here and try to get there.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers

[@GTMGunTotinMinnesotan]

Good stuff Mark. I agree about the lack of FOV that modernity has on their own positions or opinions concerning "the right way" to shoot. I've discovered some of that by experience as well.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers Man, thanks

[@wle5960]

Another video sharing good very good information. Watch these videos and not make so many mistakes...a very good thing. Spot on...pun intended.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Lol, cheers

[@johnstewart2011]

Thanks for reminding us of “the rest of the story” about some things that have been accepted and taught as dogma by many for some time. With countless examples of other things that were promoted and tried for a time only to fade away later, that lesson shouldn’t be hard to remember, but it is for me, and it’s good to have the bubbles burst on occasion. At my age my feet simply will not rotate far enough for the inside edges to lie flat on the ground. Because that has been literally impossible for a long time I gave up worrying about it long ago as well, but I believe now that I’ve also spent too much time and effort trying for the ideal “squared” position behind a tripod. I believe that’s been more harmful than helpful, and you’ve at least given me the dispensation to try shooting from a position more akin to the countless times I’ve shot a rifle unsupported offhand. Clear and well-reasoned as always.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks John, glad you liked, Cheers

[@chrislang5659]

Comfort in most cases is key!

[@markandsamafterwork]

Yup

[@markanthonystringfellow3923]

Thanks Mark!! Honest, Polite but always a Spade a Spade :-))

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Mark

[@thebeardedairgunner]

Nice information brother!

[@markandsamafterwork]

cheers

[@derekedgley5074]

One has only to study your technique when firing your various rifle calibers etc, in that, in many cases with sound effect turned off, it’s often hard to tell that the rifle has fired, such is the stability of your position and the dampening effect of your muzzle brakes whereby there’s only a slight pulse visible which invariably translates into accuracy at the target

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Derek, Cheers

[@davidhandyman7571]

I tried standing square to the rifle when trying to use a tripod. I could not stand still or stable. By shuffling my feet until I was comfortable and felt stable, I found it so much easier to be accurate.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Same, yep, Cheers

[@DeeMoback]

Old school info I was taught..... "the eyes gather information, the mind pulls the trigger" ......... yup

[@DeeMoback]

Of course we did not have new high tech optics and such and we were shooting primarily open sights at up to 1,000....... I have seen you shooting 45-70 at 900 ???? ..... we did get some 4x scopes with crosshairs very thick

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers Jay, and I have shot those way past that, lol, cheers

[@col.cottonhill6655]

Physics was a fun subject but I always had trouble keeping up. I was really a hands on type of learner. I wish I would have been taught through firearms and long range ballistics that would have made it alot more interesting!

[@markandsamafterwork]

Yep that would do it, loll Cheers

[@userJohnSmith]

Ever do the dropping monkey experiment?

[@carniv0rous]

These tips also apply to 50mtr air rifle.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Yep, Cheers

[@davidhandyman7571]

Mark, you are more of an engineer than someone who has a piece of paper that says degree. Real engineers work with real practicalities and real materials in the real world.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Dave, Cheers

[@fisherus]

I think that the easiest way to prove what you are talking about is to work backwards from the results to the source. Without the best results, nothing else means anything. Once excellent results are achieved, then you can work backwards to find out what has to happen in order to make it happen repeatedly. But if you can't duplicate the same results then you will have to make some changes until you can.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Thanks Craig

[@John-uo1qf]

You figure things out in the manner of John Boyd the famous US Air Force fighter pilot. He was the primary influence on how modern fighter jets came to be designed in the 1960s.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers

[@hairyscary8511]

If it ain't broke don't fix it...though if broken fix it asap but always be open minded when learning anything new and yes tweaking something is learning something new

[@markandsamafterwork]

Cheers

[@dingodave3966]

I find myself shooting larger recoiling calibers differently to others I have. I still feel I’m doing it wrong. Am learning from what you are saying though. I think I’m just a scaredy cat and should stick to my 223… Hehehe.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Lol, Cheers Dave thanks

[@JohnRoberts71]

So the bottom line is do what works for you to accomplish the desired results.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Sure can be a big part of it, cheers

[@robertmagnstrom6088]

All form of extremism is dangerous 🙂

[@markandsamafterwork]

Yep, Cheers

[@mrln247]

Good luck taking on the internet, as with life a lot of the time it's not the loud ones who have useful things to say.

[@markandsamafterwork]

Agreed, lol, Cheers