Some Say The 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Is a Mistake - Here’s Why They’re Wrong!

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@ma77mc
@ma77mc Жыл бұрын
So glad I live in Australia, we get the REAL landcruiser (the 300) alongside the 250 and the 79.
@alabama2uz
@alabama2uz Жыл бұрын
I always saw the 70 series as the "Real Land Cruiser". In America, the 250 is "the real land cruiser" now. 😂
@andrevanderwalt2515
@andrevanderwalt2515 Жыл бұрын
There isn't really much in it for capability between the 250 and 300, and there hasn't been since the 200, other than size and engine. My old 90 series would keep up with a 200 (until TC or diff locks were needed) Not sure why Toyota would choose to use the smaller 250 over the 300 for the US...
@jimmy-buffett
@jimmy-buffett Жыл бұрын
The US gets Lexus versions of the 300 -- the LX, which is a fancied up clone, or the GX which has the same drivetrain -- but yep, not the actual 300. When we got the 200 they only had ~2500 sales a year, so the problem is US buyers not wanting to spend Lexus money on a Toyota badge.
@sloewensteady
@sloewensteady Жыл бұрын
Plus, with the popularity of the Bronco and Bronco Sport in the US, it makes sense they'd try to compete in that market. Although you'd think the 4runner already did that.
@jordanwilson3120
@jordanwilson3120 Жыл бұрын
​@alabama2uz after seeing the new 70 series that other countries are getting it makes you not want the others
@leehall5447
@leehall5447 Жыл бұрын
As a 100 series Land Cruiser owner I am actually pretty excited about the hybrid power train, Toyota is probably the best hybrid power train manufacturer in the whole world. I personally hate getting 14 mpg on the highway lol I have a feeling the new Land Cruiser will hold up just fine, I will definitely look to purchase in the next few years.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
I concur.
@brianphillips8228
@brianphillips8228 Жыл бұрын
As a Lexus GX 460 owner, I also am pretty excited about the hybrid power train. I just want to know how that 2400 watt output works in the back of these. I am sure someone can run a portable fridge/freezer off of it in the back, but what happens when that battery gets low? will the engine turn on by itself to recharge the battery when it gets low like the ford f-150 hybrid pro-power on board with the generator package? Or will it just drain the battery completely until the vehicle is running again to recharge it? Some people might park an off road trailer in one spot for a few days (not me) and use a lot of that battery.
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 Жыл бұрын
"im excited a out a hybrid powertrain"
@HoneyBadgerFarm
@HoneyBadgerFarm Жыл бұрын
Yea MPG is a sore point...I just drove my 2012 Ram 3500 SRW Cummins from SC to MI and got 18mpg...
@jerminemhyne4620
@jerminemhyne4620 Жыл бұрын
Mpg is more likely gas price issue, it wasn’t an issue before when we’re paying .99/gallon, we don’t even look at mpg when buying any car.
@craigpate4140
@craigpate4140 Жыл бұрын
The real Land Cruiser was never meant to be just for the rich. We should have all the models that meet the safety requirements in the USA.
@ryanmartinage
@ryanmartinage Жыл бұрын
Hot take: the new 250 series or prado based will be a better overlander than any previous Land Cruiser in the US. Huge increase in mpg, smaller, fits on trails much better, and the hybrid tech is rock solid at this point. People would love to own a 200 series in the hearts but the 250 is a better everyday vehicle for real usage.. I’m optimistic it’ll be good.
@joecool9739
@joecool9739 Жыл бұрын
Nah ill take a Bronco or Wrangler over this thing any day
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
The hybrid motor is supposed to provide low-end power, meaning less stress on the engine.
@vadim9342
@vadim9342 Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. Previously, I was very disappointed when it was announced that the 250 would come with a hybrid 4. But then again, those types of engines are Toyota's bread and butter. Surely, with a nameplate like the Land Cruiser, they would make sure that everything is overbuilt. I'm confident that this one will be just fine.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
i agree, at first i was skeptical of the ev hybrid part, wishing they had just done a turbo ice set up, but, there are some nice benefits to the hyrbid system. it will double as a vehicle power supply as well, which most people add to an overland set up anyways.
@mark2073
@mark2073 Жыл бұрын
My 60 is 42 years old and still runs fine. Will the battery on this thing last 40 years? 20 years? 15? Let's hope they have realistic battery replacement options when that time comes...
@gureno19
@gureno19 Жыл бұрын
Guys... a centre diff lock isn't a "feature" it's literally a necessary mechanical component within an AWD/4WD system. Without a centre diff lock, you don't get a 50/50 split and you don't have a true 4WD system. Vice versa, without an unlocked open centre differential, you cannot run a 4WD system on pavement/high traction surfaces. Also, I think it's important to mention this is a Prado, and not really comparable to the fullsize LandCruiser, the U.S don't get the 300 series which is the true comparison to the prior generations.
@C10sRule
@C10sRule Жыл бұрын
It’s not a mistake. The biggest mistake was going so far upscale like they have in the past. I am not a Land Cruiser fan, many out there are, but they can lose objectivity. I’m like that with other products,, haha. The new Land Cruiser is a slight step back towards the more original series (40 series,,,,, welll ok,, 80 series) in a modern style. I like it,, the powertrain was always 6 cylinders for a LOOONNGG TIME. The 4 cylinder hybrid powertrain is just fine! It’s going to have some serious low end torque and ok to decent off-road capabilities. It looks good as well.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
LC 200 should of went more utlity and moved away from lexus LX460 and LC200 was priced almost at LX570 $, is why we didnt buy Them Toyota priced Them out of the US market
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 Жыл бұрын
I bought an 80 series in 91 and traded for a 93 due to bigger brakes and better engine. The 93 came with the triple locker. 160,000 miles and the only issue was windows coming of track when frozen. I won’t talk about the gas mileage 😂
@ziadkadi
@ziadkadi Жыл бұрын
That's a Prado
@ericrodriguez380
@ericrodriguez380 Жыл бұрын
🤡
@BigFellaGames
@BigFellaGames Жыл бұрын
Stick whatever label you want on the 250 it's still a prado, the 300 series is the landcruiser. 90 series, 120 series, 150 are all prados. Cant be compared to the 60, 80, 100, 200 and 300 landcruisers. Even the naming conventions make it a prado.
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 Жыл бұрын
Tommy skipped over the actual history of the Toyota Land Cruiser to save time. But In 1950, Toyota received a Military contract from the U.S. to manufacture Willys Jeeps for the Korean War. Toyota Engineers being what they are, perfectionists, found ways to improve the Willys Jeep. And when the Korean War reached an Armistice, ceasefire agreement in 1953, Toyota continued to improve their version of the Jeep and then started manufacturing their own AWD Brand, precursor to the Land Cruiser, locally in Japan.
@phelandeluna5439
@phelandeluna5439 Жыл бұрын
You may want to research that again...lol
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 Жыл бұрын
@@phelandeluna5439 How exactly am I incorrect? Point it out. I cannot wait for your response.
@phelandeluna5439
@phelandeluna5439 Жыл бұрын
@@theylied1776 Mitsubishi and Mahindra had permission to build the Jeeps, Toyota just jacked one and reverse engineered it, as did Land Rover. The Japanese government asked Toyota to develop a light truck for the military. And after the Empire of Japan occupied the Philippines, during 1941-1942, a captured Bantam GP (or Willys MB) was sent to Japan for assessment and testing. Japanese military authorities subsequently requested that Toyota produce a similar vehicle, albeit with an altered external appearance. In June 1954, responding to claims of trademark violation by the Willys Company that produced the original Jeep, then Director of Technology Hanji Umehara renamed the vehicle "Land Cruiser."
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 Жыл бұрын
@@phelandeluna5439 Maybe I should have said that I grew up on Marine Corps Amphibious Base. I can guarantee that there are still some Toyota made Jeep's running around on Guam. Is this the best that you can do?
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 Жыл бұрын
@@phelandeluna5439 Mitsubishi licensed the Willys Jeep in 1953 for commercial use. In 1950, Toyota was commissioned by the US military to build Jeeps for use in the Korean War. That is a big difference. People like you never do actual research, you take fragments of information and think that you know it all. My comment about the history of the Toyota Land Cruiser is 100% correct.
@Dr.Ranger
@Dr.Ranger Жыл бұрын
Here's why they are wrong: Toyota paid me...
@brianowens1002
@brianowens1002 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to car reveals and press-provided cars, they turn into advertisers and not car-reviewers.
@boxoffisa
@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын
If USA didn’t hate on LC200 which was looked down in sales they would have gotten LC300 which is a V6 but more powerful than any V8 Toyota have ever made. So they are getting a small Landcruiser known as prado in many markets which has always been a 4 cylinder and v6. And then Americans will again complain. But I am sure this will sell more because Toyota is using price to market which was the problem for LC200 that ended up discouragement of bringing LC300.
@ryanmartinage
@ryanmartinage Жыл бұрын
Toyota only brought the very top end Safari trim as the 200 series to the US. If we had the ability to purchase some lower trims like everywhere else, it would’ve caught on more.
@boxoffisa
@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын
@@ryanmartinage maybe they are planning to bring in LC300 later in like 5 years when this new baby prado catch fire. Because it is a beautiful and good car. I want one for myself. Since I started typing this 3 of them have passed by but last year model. So they will like it, however, I wish Americans got that LC300. It’s amazing.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanmartinage yes we wanted the basic LC200 GX model 18" steelies cloth seats utility model not a $90 k 3rows of leather top trim Toyota priced them out of the market
@ryanmartinage
@ryanmartinage Жыл бұрын
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 100%
@ryanmartinage
@ryanmartinage Жыл бұрын
@@boxoffisa part of it is production capacity too. The 300 series is years backordered already just about.
@blake.thomas.
@blake.thomas. Жыл бұрын
They missed not putting the split tailgate on the 250
@EreggioHayde
@EreggioHayde Жыл бұрын
300 doesn’t have a tailgate so why would the 250?
@blake.thomas.
@blake.thomas. Жыл бұрын
@@EreggioHayde then they missed on that to, the wagon based land cruisers have had the split tailgate since the 60 series
@BelchevKalin
@BelchevKalin Жыл бұрын
@@blake.thomas. not the Prado versions, they were with side opening back door. And as this is based on 300 series ... no more split tail gate.
@z00h
@z00h Жыл бұрын
Isn't 250 an updated Prado and 300 is the proper 200 replacement?
@wjsIII
@wjsIII Жыл бұрын
Yes, Toyota USA royally screwed that up
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
yes, 4runner/ Prado/GX460 share the same 109" wheel base , the new LC250 prado /GX 550 are on the 112" wheel base now ,LC300 is diesel in Other markets , there is s basic utilitarian model which is what we wanted with the LC100/LC200 and LC300 , cut into toyota sequoia TRD pro sales = $$ for toyota dealers and its to much of a 3row luxury car
@AppleSlipper
@AppleSlipper Жыл бұрын
Yes. In Australia, NZ, and some other markets, it's just called the Land Cruiser Prado. Japan calls it the Land Cruiser 250 Series.
@PaddyBoy644
@PaddyBoy644 Жыл бұрын
250 series Landcruiser, do they make those for men??? Yes it’s called the 300 series Landcruiser but the US can’t have it ! 😂😂😂
@cpftank09
@cpftank09 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s engine or the overall size that has people confused. What’s going to set this apart from the next gen 4Runner is what people are confused about. I can’t imagine the 4R will downsized or much different than the Tacoma’s powertrains. So if the 4R is the same size as the LC, same powertrain (optional), same platform/suspension and likely lower price. Whats the advantage to the LC?
@bryanhersman4037
@bryanhersman4037 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It seems like the 2025 4 runner is going to be the same vehicle just a different trim level. Or more accurately the new Land Cruiser is just a high trim level of the 2025 4 Runner
@SLHJR0390
@SLHJR0390 Жыл бұрын
theyre talking more bare bones interiors, and a possible manual for the 4R. @@bryanhersman4037
@cpftank09
@cpftank09 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanhersman4037 my thoughts exactly. I bet aftermarket suspensions will be the same (maybe even the Tacoma) and you could probably retrofit the KDSS from the LC if the 4R doesn’t come with it. It’ll be interesting to see Toyota’s strategy because I’m still thinking the new LC will be more of a status symbol or throwback than a meaningful upgrade to another model. Heck, the price won’t be far off the new GX and that has the twin turbo v6.
@thomassanio8745
@thomassanio8745 Жыл бұрын
That IS the real question, better current 4Runner is more capable to boot.
@imkwuzn
@imkwuzn Жыл бұрын
As the original owner of a 2000 100 Series, I can attest to its utter reliability, capability, comfort and versatility. I learned how to drive on my parents 1970 FJ55 wagon and wish I still had it. I wouldn’t trade my 100 series for any of the rest and have zero interest in the new one.
@Chris0-58
@Chris0-58 Жыл бұрын
The 200 Series was also offered with a 4.5L twin turbo diesel V8 and a 4.6L NA V8 petrol engines in some markets.
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik Жыл бұрын
And a 4.0 V6 also.
@bobdylan6773
@bobdylan6773 Жыл бұрын
gas**
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
and had more basic utility models we only had the top top trim spec
@z00h
@z00h Жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan6773 there were no official gas powered engines in this, only petrol (liquid) and diesel (liquid).
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
America only got the top-of-the-line trim with the V8. That’s why it was so expensive in America (~$90k) and it had low sales, leading to its discontinuation in the US. Most people would rather spend that money on the Lexus LX or another luxury brand.
@Dara-ih6jq
@Dara-ih6jq Жыл бұрын
As far as hybrid reliability goes, my sister has a first generation Prius with about 200,000 miles on it and that girl has probably change the oil on that card so few times you could probably count on both hands. She is like the destroyer of cars she does zero maintenance on them ever like if the oil got changed it’s because my father, or I did it for her. And my sister having that car with zero issues for so long, made me a believer because if a car can survive my sister and her lack of everything maintenance related Toyota has figure it out a reliable recipe for sure...
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich Жыл бұрын
@8:15 alll 80 series were available with the k294 option (F/R lockers). My 97 has the option. it was the 100 series that only had the rear locker in the early models.
@joemattes8389
@joemattes8389 Жыл бұрын
I think it is kind of cool that it has gotten a little smaller, cheaper, more off roady. Kind of back to its roots in a way.
@1guyin10
@1guyin10 Жыл бұрын
...and if you want the bigger, more expensive Land Cruiser you can buy the Lexus. They have even embraced it's off-road credentials.
@mark2073
@mark2073 Жыл бұрын
They should bring in the troopy for those who want bigger
@NorthweSteelheadJunkies
@NorthweSteelheadJunkies Жыл бұрын
Technically speaking the current 300 serious isn't any smaller, North America is just getting the 250/Prado size outside the Lexus GX
@fredbrackely
@fredbrackely Жыл бұрын
thats the 79 series.
@BF1-P
@BF1-P Жыл бұрын
It didn’t got smaller and cheaper, this new one is a new generation for the prado which is always been a smaller cheaper land cruiser since the 1990. The successor to the land cruiser is the new land cruiser LC300.
@JogBird
@JogBird Жыл бұрын
it'll be interesting what they do with the new 4runner
@christos881
@christos881 Жыл бұрын
Probably throw the same motor in it
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 Жыл бұрын
Thats what I'm thinking. In the US market we have the 4runner, this Land Cruiser doesn't seem any better. Its cool to have options though.
@markderoller7645
@markderoller7645 Жыл бұрын
​@@jeffk464I would definitely shop this against the new 4Runner.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 Жыл бұрын
@@christos881 Same basic frame, same basic suspension, same basic power-train as far as I know. Mostly a different body.
@IsmaelMartinezPR
@IsmaelMartinezPR Жыл бұрын
This LC is what the 4 Runner was supposed to be. 4 Runner fans got screwed as it had been based on the Prado since 2003 to 2023 the same vehicle this one is based on. Expect the new 4 Runner maybe in 2025 to be a Tacoma with a Cab. Crappier version than the current one, which I bought one 2 weeks ago, as they will become sought after.
@robervin9107
@robervin9107 Жыл бұрын
A iconic duo showing iconic suvs. Awesome job kase and tommy. 🅰️
@kelvinhill9874
@kelvinhill9874 Жыл бұрын
When the 100 series launched in Australia, they offered a version with solid front axle. I think it also came with the 4.2L 6 cylinder diesel and a 5 speed manual. They rode on steelies too.
@perpelle
@perpelle Жыл бұрын
Yep, was called the 105! UN bought loads of them.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
might be right .there was and still is a v8 turbo diesel and in the U.S. the LC100 became more of a luxury wagon. than utilitarian ,like in other world markets ,LC 200 more luxury higher price thats. why no one bought them LC250 is more mid size
@Queensizemusic
@Queensizemusic Жыл бұрын
@@youtubecarspottersguide1yes, the 105 is the model you’re referring to, but the most interesting thing about that variant is it’s a 100 Series body, but it rides on the 80 Series Chassis!
@ПавелЕпифанцевъ
@ПавелЕпифанцевъ Жыл бұрын
2024 Land Cruiser it's a new Land Cruiser PRADO. Real Land Cruiser is LC300, it's not present in the USA.
@EreggioHayde
@EreggioHayde Жыл бұрын
Many markets do not use the Prado moniker. Doesn’t mean it’s not a real Land Cruiser. Land Cruiser has been a line of vehicles since the early 80s. Heavy duty, station wagon, light duty. What’s different is that past light duty land cruisers did not get the drivetrain and components as the heavy duty and station wagon. This generation does. So define Land Cruiser and I bet you’ll confuse yourself.
@davidjernigan7576
@davidjernigan7576 Жыл бұрын
The land cruiser was like a lot of vehicles getting too big, and it became more of a status symbol rather than something worthy of off road use.
@FirstnameLastname-gz8hy
@FirstnameLastname-gz8hy Жыл бұрын
Less ground clearance and a smaller engine than a 2024 4runner. There’s no getting around physics, a smaller engine means it will need higher rpms when accelerating which accelerates engine wear. I’d buy the tried and tested drivetrain that’s been around forever on the 2024 4runner and save $10k than be a guinea pig on a 1st year new land cruiser with. A 4 cylinder engine
@HaroldCombs
@HaroldCombs Жыл бұрын
Not complaining but the 250 series is a Prado not a Land Cruiser. Still. I’ll probably be in line the buy one soonish.
@thelandcruiserproject
@thelandcruiserproject Жыл бұрын
You guys failed to recognize just how rare the 100 Series Land Cruiser you drove is. The specific one you drove didn't have a sunroof (which is quite rare) and was also optioned with a Rear Diff Lock (which is uncommon for the no-sunroof variant).
@fredbrackely
@fredbrackely Жыл бұрын
So why would I buy a new LC 250 over a new 4Runner? I don't see any point now. The LC200/300 was a step up from the 4runner in size, luxury, towing capacity, seating, longevity, and you paid a premium for all that extra. Now I'd be getting a lot less (although cheaper than the outgoing LC model) buying the new model LC which has a pokey 4 banger (not as good as the 4 runner V6, even less than the V8) and I don't want mild hybrid, nobody looking for reliability does) might as well buy the 4runner, right?
@AHMEDMOOSAJI
@AHMEDMOOSAJI Жыл бұрын
This landcruiser is not a successor to the 200 series , That would be the 300 series, this is a successor to the 150 series , which is why its cheaper and smaller
@Queensizemusic
@Queensizemusic Жыл бұрын
Tommy, the FJ80 and the FZJ80 shared the same T-O-Y-O-T-A logo on the grill. They changed the engine in 1993, signifying the change to FZJ, but didn’t replace the drill logo until 1995. As for the Triple Lock configuration, it was available through all model years from 1990-1997. I believe they didn’t delete that option until the 2000 year model of the 100 Series.
@andrewjones-productions
@andrewjones-productions Жыл бұрын
Two things I find weird. 1) That Toyota are not introducing the 300 series to a country that traditionally likes ginormous vehicles. 2) That the Prado 250 is being compared to what can only be described as its older first cousins rather than its elder siblings and that Toyota are the ones encouraging this comparison. Personally, I like the new 250 series and is a far more attractive car than then outgoing Prado, which whilst nice, its interior was very long in the tooth and rather cheap looking if I'm honest. I do think it should have come with a split tail gate though or even the more Prado like side opening door. A split tail gate is more practical and a side opening door invariably follows the direction according to which side of the road the manufacturer's domestic market drives on, meaning that countries that drive on the opposite side have a door that is inconvenient (G-Wagon in Japan, Defender in the USA etc). That is why a split tail gate is better.
@ryanmartinage
@ryanmartinage Жыл бұрын
The sequoia fills that gap for a large suv. Despite the enthusiast foot stomping, LC 200 series sales weren’t good enough to keep it here in its 300 series iteration.
@UintaDave
@UintaDave Жыл бұрын
Objectively the new 250 series is an improvement. Increased off-road ability with the sway bar disconnect, rear locker and center lock - all of which no other Land Cruiser has had. People who are unhappy with it want the Land Cruiser to be solid axle front and rear and geared towards competing with Jeep.
@DrinkWhiskeyRaiseHell
@DrinkWhiskeyRaiseHell Жыл бұрын
land cruiser have had, rear, center and front lockers before.....
@UintaDave
@UintaDave Жыл бұрын
@@DrinkWhiskeyRaiseHellgood correction, didn’t realize the absolute statements made at the time.
@heytherebato
@heytherebato Жыл бұрын
Thats because you cannot beat a solid front axle....
@reho7387
@reho7387 Жыл бұрын
Other than the engine setup on the Land Cruiser 250, I prefer the downsizing and the design is okay...it's an off-road SUV so the design is consistent for that purpose.
@samwolf8151
@samwolf8151 Жыл бұрын
More Land Cruiser content! I haven’t been this excited for a vehicle since the Bronco!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Tommy, This is an excellent historic overview that clearly illustrates the Land Cruiser was not always a huge luxury barge. It looks like a new and very basic Land Cruiser is being launched with compact proportions 0:41 close to that FJ25. Let's hope it reaches this market . 🤞🤞
@notengospacebar
@notengospacebar 11 ай бұрын
16:00 start of introduction with new LC
@JoeBlunt
@JoeBlunt Жыл бұрын
I can almost guarantee the people complaining are not land cruiser owners because people are excited, the problem is that it should have been called the 4runner
@andrevanderwalt2515
@andrevanderwalt2515 Жыл бұрын
But it is not a 4runner, it is a Prado... The Prado came from the Land Cruiser that got softer. The 4runner came from the Taco/Hilux platform. In reality the 4runner is smaller than the Prado and also cheaper and arguably better in the real tough stuff
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
we would have bought more LC 200 's if it been more utilitarian , than top of the line 3 row luxury wagon @$90k
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that it should’ve been called the Prado, which it really is. Also, the Prado never had an 8-cylinder engine. Only 4-cylinder and 6-cylinder. Toyota has guts to compare this Prado to the other real land cruisers we got up until the 200 series.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Жыл бұрын
​@@andrevanderwalt2515 Pretty sure the current 4Runner is on the Prado 150 platform.
@frankmartin1325
@frankmartin1325 Жыл бұрын
The 300 series is my favorite one 😒
@ПавелЕпифанцевъ
@ПавелЕпифанцевъ Жыл бұрын
Real Land Cruiser
@FullsendOffroad
@FullsendOffroad Жыл бұрын
they should've just brought in the 300 and said "F you. you're not getting this." I honestly wish that, so maybe with looking at it, we could convince Toyota that we need this. Or even a 70 series or a 150 for example.
@ldmtag
@ldmtag Жыл бұрын
250 is not a Land Cruiser, it's a Land Cruiser Prado. Its history only goes back to the 90 series
@ThePoopsie321
@ThePoopsie321 Жыл бұрын
Thats not correct! Its history dated back to the Bundera, that became the Prado, in the 80s with the J7.
@ldmtag
@ldmtag Жыл бұрын
@@ThePoopsie321 as far as I know the 70 series just had a trim level called Prado, it wasn't an independant model. This SUV Toyota sells in the US is called Land Cruiser, but that means nothing. Names mean nothing. In the recent past there had been two Land Cruiser lines: the comfort-oriented one (60, 80, 100, 200, 300) and the offroad-oriented one (pretty much just 70). Prado originally was a more luxurious version of the 70 series, but that's not the same as Prado 90 - a completely new model with no direct ancestor. Prado 90 was not a more offroady version of the Land Cruiser 80 - it was anything but with its independent front suspension and, iirc, the lack of front differential lock, which 80 series had.
@ldmtag
@ldmtag Жыл бұрын
@@ThePoopsie321 it's like Mustang Mach E or Mitsubishi Eclipse crossover: the name is the same, but it means nothing. This 250 series is not a real Land Cruiser, just like 90 series wasn't the same Prado the 70 series was.
@ThePoopsie321
@ThePoopsie321 Жыл бұрын
@@ldmtag Of course, it was a different model. The Bundera had the weaker, smaller engines and the smaller axles compared to the Heavy Duty J7. Since the 80s, there have always been two different models of the Land Cruiser. The midsize-model Bundera/Prado (Pajero/Terrano-class) and the fullsize-model Land Cruiser Wagon, starting with the iron pig.
@ldmtag
@ldmtag Жыл бұрын
@@ThePoopsie321 here's where we disagree: not from the 80s, from the 90s. And the first Prado as we know it today, in my opinion, started from the 90 generation.
@rl9810
@rl9810 Жыл бұрын
Slight correction: the 93 and 94 Landcruisers were FZJ80s with the spelled out "TOYOTA" on the front and not the "T" emblem.
@nanvonmueller1459
@nanvonmueller1459 Жыл бұрын
4x Land Cruiser owner! The FJ80 was a slug, lol. Also had some rear main seal problems. I loved my 100 series! More power. It was 14 yrs old when I bought it. I drove it for 10 years. No problems. Sold it in 5 minutes too. My current beauty is badged as a Lexus GX 460. 10 years old when I bought it. It's so comfortable and luxurious! I feel like I need a jar of Grey Poupon in the console. Excited about the new model! Enjoyed your video. Thanks for the great history tour! New subscriber.
@stevenkurtz1231
@stevenkurtz1231 Жыл бұрын
Not to pick on small details but you had mentioned the "toyota" badge in 80 grille indicated the 3fe engine. 93 and 94 80s had the old "toyota" badge spelled out on the grill as well but were equipped with the obd1 1fz engines. The more modern Toyota badge was on the grill of the 95-97 80s in the US, which also had the 1fz but with the updated ODB2 management system (some 95s had a weird cross over obd2 system as well?, maybe?).... LOVE the channel, keep it up!
@stevenkurtz1231
@stevenkurtz1231 Жыл бұрын
looking through comments it seems i was late on the draw on this post...still love the channel as always!
@alexandermckay8594
@alexandermckay8594 Жыл бұрын
Still think the 1958 model is the one to get like Nathan wants. Anyone know when these things are actually going on sale, not just teasers like this?
@emmcey
@emmcey Жыл бұрын
No
@nothingtoseaheardammit
@nothingtoseaheardammit Жыл бұрын
Myself (an FJ Cruiser owner) and my friend (GX owner) were just talking about this last night. We hadn't discussed it before at all, but over drinks we both immediately agreed that the 4cyl hybrid is a huge mistake. We're both looking at the new GX due to that fact alone.
@boxoffisa
@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын
The problem is LC200 series was rejected in USA which discouraged Toyota to bring LC300. Now US will get a scaled down landcruiser normally called prado in other markets. But this is fresh and prados have been 4 cylinders. This is made to scale up sells unlike LC200. This is because people are buying crossovers more and reliable cars like landcruiser was rejected due to praise so sells wasn’t being great. However, since LC has reputation people will buy it. Maybe later they will reinstall the real LC sold elsewhere. Yes the LC300 has a more powerful V6 engine. No more V8 though due to the pressure from climate change influenced by powerful people.
@boxoffisa
@boxoffisa Жыл бұрын
@@This_man500 prado which is American receiving in 2024 is also a landcruiser but the baby one. They wanted to offer this to US but the people in US hates good things. And yes this will last. Landcruiser Prados is a reliable SUV. That’s why they sell so much elsewhere.
@brianphillips8228
@brianphillips8228 Жыл бұрын
Customers that compared the LC200 against the Lexus LX 570, realized that you get a lot more for your money out of the Lexus. That is why we still get the Lexus version of the 300 series, but only the cheaper 250 series of the Land Cruiser.@@boxoffisa
@brianphillips8228
@brianphillips8228 Жыл бұрын
Compare it to the new Lexus LX. Then, you can see why the LC 250 is cheaper. @@This_man500
@anjansingh3093
@anjansingh3093 Жыл бұрын
GX550 has turbo and this LC has turbo. 4 or 6 cyl doesn't matter. If I don't have any issue with turbo then I prefer hybrid max powertrain on new LC , not just the turbo v6 on GX550 which basically gives same mpg as the GX460. GX460 is better buy than GX550.
@davidbrieske
@davidbrieske Жыл бұрын
Great video! Always enjoy Tommy’s narration on things! Makes me want to place an order for one!
@thomassanio8745
@thomassanio8745 Жыл бұрын
Less ground clearance is never a good thing off road.
@123capk
@123capk Жыл бұрын
I use to work for audi and they had a 4 cylinder turbo engine inside a Q7 that is very heavy they always had horrible, gas mileage, and the turbos always went out due to being maxed out all the time
@wjsIII
@wjsIII Жыл бұрын
Toyota can call that “The” Land Cruiser all they want but it’s still just a Prado.
@bartgugelot5788
@bartgugelot5788 Жыл бұрын
105 series, Google it. Sweet spot for the last comfy solid axle cruiser
@stackoverflow8260
@stackoverflow8260 Жыл бұрын
Prius used the NiMH battery, and they ran for at least 200k miles. My last one was totaled at 226k miles and was going strong. Now, I have a 2016 GX Premium. Hybrid will let you hack the car into being a generator and can provide up to 2KWatt power.
@jerryfrench2981
@jerryfrench2981 Жыл бұрын
You missed out on the 300 series. I bought one recently. It was a three way tussle between the LC300 , Defender & the Grenadier. The big factors were known reliability & resale value.
@ourkaravan
@ourkaravan Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion--dropping effectively $35k off the price, pushing the emphasis of Land Cruiser from luxury back to off-road capable, a modern powertrain that has V8 power and torque with close to double the efficiency of the old one...sign me up. I can't wait to see these with a mild lift and real off-road tires.
@georgev5766
@georgev5766 Жыл бұрын
So what’s the difference between the Land Cruiser 250 and outgoing 4Runner? I mean, I’m glad the LC is cheaper now but I feel like they are playing a trick on us and selling the 4Runner with a LC badge on it.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Жыл бұрын
Literally everything, they're completely different vehicles.
@scotturich
@scotturich Жыл бұрын
I simply don’t understand the 250 in the states; seems to encroach into the 4Runner space.
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
maybe 4runner will go more wrangler like Lowe price ? but will it stay in the Japan factory
@tommy516
@tommy516 Жыл бұрын
The Cargo area in the rear...LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE 4Runner....
@reeee1348
@reeee1348 Жыл бұрын
missing out on the 300 and the 70
@timkorade5696
@timkorade5696 Жыл бұрын
So, between my wife and I we have owned, 1963 FJ40, 1972 FJ40, 1976 FJ40, 1980 HJ47, 1983 FJ60, 1985 BJ70, 2002 UZJ100, 2004 UZJ100. The ones that have been retired ran over 400,000 and it was due to New England rust, not any mechanical issues. We still have 5 of them and we am looking forward to the new version, LOL, although might need to sell a couple to make room.
@einfeldt777
@einfeldt777 Жыл бұрын
I love it every time you guys are visiting the Land-Cruiser museum, I’m still missing my old HJ61 with an impossible to kill 4L diesel.
@JohnAdair-h4u
@JohnAdair-h4u Жыл бұрын
7:15 - 1994 is a FZJ80 with Toyota spelled out on the front. They went to the modern Toyota emblem in 1995. 1994 can also be triple locked. I love my triple locked 1994; best year of the 80 series! Great video! Wish we could have seen the Iron Pig!
@kcw9313
@kcw9313 Жыл бұрын
97 is best
@donleamon8653
@donleamon8653 Жыл бұрын
96 or 97 is best.
@DanielAlvarez-vp1iv
@DanielAlvarez-vp1iv Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t you compare the previous with the new LC 300 instead of the Prado?
@SonnyFastSpeed
@SonnyFastSpeed Жыл бұрын
It is important to consider the level of equipment of these cars exactly, for what purpose you use the car in your daily driving. Secondly, it is also necessary to evaluate what is the ratio of weight and engine power to consumption and what costs will be caused by the supply of electricity and the price of fuels in the next 2-5 years. Also the maintenance costs and maintenance of your car.
@minifunkable
@minifunkable Жыл бұрын
Some say ppl complain too much. If you don't like it go buy the Lexus lx 600 or are you to poor to afford it...
@shooter2055
@shooter2055 Жыл бұрын
In addition to an RJ-70, I operated an HJ-65 turbodiesel in Germany during the late '80s. That HJ was wonderful! Seats were from the Supra. The five-speed manual worked well with the engine. Plenty of torque!
@charlestshiko1028
@charlestshiko1028 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how Toyota has decided to brand the new Tacoma based SUV a land-cruiser when it had always been a Forerunner before. If you don't like the turbo-hybrid idea, you better get a '23 or '24 Forerunner while you can. Also, the 100-200 series only ditched the front solid axle on the NA market. This is a new name for the Forerunner, not a successor to the 70 or 200 series.
@MegaGeorge1948
@MegaGeorge1948 Жыл бұрын
I still loved my 1975 FJ-40 bobtail Landcruiser. It had a 4 speed standard with 4.11:1 differentials. I bought it for $7,500.00 brand new. I added a 22 gallon axillary gas tank to give it more range between fill ups. I also installed autolocking hubs. Because I was getting lazy getting out to lock them. With no overdrive it was lousy on the highway both in highway speed and and gas mileage.
@D0praise
@D0praise Жыл бұрын
When Tommy asked Tylor why she had a 200 Heritage Edition, I expected her to say it’s because they don’t sell the 79 in the USA. My favorite series is the 60 we have in our garage. Wish they’d sell the 250 with the split tailgate and a third row!
@jonkrispeterson6678
@jonkrispeterson6678 Жыл бұрын
My ‘92 Previa had rear seats that folded up against the rear windows as well
@shishirbail4797
@shishirbail4797 Жыл бұрын
I think the best way to understand how Toyota's got it right with the new Land Cruiser is to compare it to what Land Rover did with the new Defender!
@gregkosinski2303
@gregkosinski2303 Жыл бұрын
Haha what an abomination
@MUISHAGGY572
@MUISHAGGY572 Жыл бұрын
My favorite is the 200 series because it has that king of the road feel cause of its bigger size.
@BelchevKalin
@BelchevKalin Жыл бұрын
Actually if you check it the 200 has almost identical dimensions with J250 :)
@sugarplumflyjelly
@sugarplumflyjelly Жыл бұрын
The 250 will be the best North American Land Cruiser offering to date -- and this is coming from a 35-year-long Land Cruiser owner and driver. Back to Land Cruiser's no-frills utilitarian roots. Notable with 250 is that it shares the 300 series chassis, which benchmarked the 80 series for off road performance, far surpassing the outgoing 200 series. Better yet, the 4 cylinder turbo hybrid finally solves Land Cruiser's age-old problem of poor efficiency and poor range.
@JokerG16
@JokerG16 Жыл бұрын
nah, sorry. they should’ve offered the 300 series stateside. this 250 series would’ve been a good FJ or 4Runner.
@sugarplumflyjelly
@sugarplumflyjelly Жыл бұрын
​@@JokerG16 So you prefer the 300 series body? Because 300 and 250 literally share the same chassis.
@Juanguar
@Juanguar Жыл бұрын
@@sugarplumflyjellythey do not 250 is smaller 250 is also a prado not a land cruiser
@sugarplumflyjelly
@sugarplumflyjelly Жыл бұрын
@@Juanguar The 250 and 300 share the same chassis.
@Juanguar
@Juanguar Жыл бұрын
@@sugarplumflyjelly repeat it all you want It won’t make it true
@sjhanksaz
@sjhanksaz Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this on your slip test and on your track someday
@Slap0ho
@Slap0ho Жыл бұрын
I think Toyota should at least give the option of a six cylinder, which would also enable the third row. I think by doing to, it would really take off. As it stands, I wouldn't buy this.
@cherokeelaketennessee7895
@cherokeelaketennessee7895 Жыл бұрын
FZJ80 started in 1993 - 1997. The front, rear, and center diff lock was an option for the 1993-1997. FJ80 was 1991 and 1992 and only offered the CDL, no front and rear lockers. The FJ62 was sold in the US in 1988, 1989, and 1990. My first Cruiser was a 1983 FJ60 which I wished I still had. Since then I've owned dozen FJ80 and FZJ80s, and 4 100 series. I've never owned a 200 series, moved to a Tundra about 8 years ago but I'm looking forward to the new Cruiser.
@puriarahbarnia34
@puriarahbarnia34 Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of the best ever Toyota interiors I’ve ever seen. All their other cars look old, junk and plasticy. I love the screen design
@waynebrucemanbat5787
@waynebrucemanbat5787 Жыл бұрын
Nice that it's got lockers but why only give it the ground clearance of a Subaru? I'm sure it's more capable, but 10 inches with a different front and rear bumper for better approach and departure angles would really make this a great option for those that don't want a Jeep or Bronco
@TypeIIAdventures
@TypeIIAdventures Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that number is just under the rear differential. That’s how my FJ60 is measured. I’m hoping the body has a few more inches of clearance.
@Car-crazy
@Car-crazy Жыл бұрын
It depends where that measurement is taken from. My 2023 lc prado has about 10 inches or so under the diferential, but around 13 inches of ground clearance from under the body and running boards.
@fahdabdulaziz5067
@fahdabdulaziz5067 Жыл бұрын
Yeah 8+ inches of ground clearance is just weird. Unless they are bringing fj cruiser to compete with jeep and Ford
@perryrhodan1936
@perryrhodan1936 Жыл бұрын
The fully-locked 70-, 80- and 105-series LCs remain my favorites of the whole line-up to this day.
@hussam9433
@hussam9433 9 ай бұрын
Land Cruiser as name will never be a miss . Even if it’s a garbage truck if it’s has Land Cruiser on its body, that’s enough to hold its status.
@windwaker27
@windwaker27 Жыл бұрын
16:45 the land cruiser hasn't gotten smaller, Toyota just doesn't sell the real full size land cruiser, in my country we get both, the land cruiser and the land cruiser prado.
@ianscorey5293
@ianscorey5293 Жыл бұрын
Hi chaps….. unfortunately the Toyota Land Cruiser was a copy cat of other vehicles!!! As you stated the original Land Cruiser was a copy of the Jeep!!! I owned a 1972 FJ40… the dashboard was a copy of a 1930s Dodge fire truck!!! I also owned a FJ 70…..purchased 1984!!!! The VX Land Cruiser was a total copy of the Range Rover chassis system!!! Toyota Land Cruiser is a great vehicle but it never became a class leading vehicle!!!! Very reliable but not a vehicle that developed a new generation of 4x4s!!!! Brill video!!! Regards Ian 👨‍🎤🇳🇿👍
@bartjanflikkema
@bartjanflikkema Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that initially thought the 125hp of the FJ25 was an impressive number for what it is? Only to hear it isn't going to be fast? I mean, 125hp in that thing gets it to speeds way higher than you even want or dare to drive with it 😂
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro Жыл бұрын
Put me down for the new 250 series with the trailhunter trim.
@richardtincopa881
@richardtincopa881 Жыл бұрын
the 2024 toyota land cruiser is basically a toyota land cruiser PRADO.
@michaelstringer1840
@michaelstringer1840 Жыл бұрын
I love my 95 Land Cruiser. Great off roadwr with the front and rear lockers. My only problem is not great on gas and with these gas prices it doesn’t get driven as much.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Жыл бұрын
80 series is peak Land Cruiser in the US, but I really like this new one too, as much as one can like a modern IFS vehicle.
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 Жыл бұрын
How much does it weigh? The lack of third row seating, even as only very occasional jump seats, is really sad.
@stevenlippis5488
@stevenlippis5488 Жыл бұрын
My parents had an RJ70 when I was growing up (short wheel base), and I absolutely loved it. Have had a 95 and now have a V6 120. If I was to choose any of the older models it would be the 105. Best bits of the 100 and best bits of the 80. If I could afford it I'd get the new prado 250 in a heartbeat. Love the look. Ideally I'd get the 71 sold in the UAE, swb 70, looks so much like the car from my childhood.
@why2g482
@why2g482 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t find a Land Cruiser shirt for a Land Cruiser event? Haha great video!
@afamilyoutside
@afamilyoutside Жыл бұрын
the '24 Land Cruiser looks more like the reintroduction of a new, 4 door FJ Cruiser imo
@bikingD
@bikingD Жыл бұрын
Love it show up to Toyota to do a history of Land Cruiser wearing a VW Micro Bus T-shirt. I wouldn't even do that. So disrespectful. But must say love the Land Cruiser and the Bus. Both legends.
@eddiespaghets7663
@eddiespaghets7663 Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Very simple yet informational AND very well laid out. Extremely easy understand the history of the Land Cruiser.
@2URLex
@2URLex Жыл бұрын
Neighbor a few houses down has 2 of those 60 series in his drive way. Both run and in good condition.
@ShockinglyBleh
@ShockinglyBleh Жыл бұрын
What happens when you go off road and the hybrid batteries get wet?
@KaiPonte
@KaiPonte Жыл бұрын
I would love a FJ-40. Almost bought a good quality one for very cheap, but lost out to someone. I'm still not happy with Toyota for using a hybrid in the new land cruisers. I wonder if these will last nearly as long as the 100 series models with the venerable 2UZ V8. I have friends with the 100 series with over 300,000 miles. While the hybrid design seems great, I'm not sure about using a turbo on the gas engine.
@Brooklynraised68
@Brooklynraised68 Жыл бұрын
Reliability is toast with the electric model
@brianleonard1639
@brianleonard1639 Жыл бұрын
As a GX 460 owner, I have mixed feelings about the new 250. The outgoing V8 power train is so reliable that seeing one with over 200k miles isn't even a talking point anymore. Turbos and hybrids, even when built by Toyota, just don't garner as much confidence (looking directly at you, Tundra). If anyone can get it right, it'll be Toyota. Still, I will be avoiding the 250 series until enough time has passed to start seeing consumer reports on 200k+ LCs. Give them time for some thorough R&D to work out the bugs. All that being said, I'd bet with confidence that the new 250 will still be more reliable than any of its off-road competitors from other brands.
@JakesPlaying
@JakesPlaying Жыл бұрын
my complaint about the LC is the engine, not that its hybrid but it should of gotten the 3.4TT hybrid the GX 550 got, Why would the LC get the same engine the Taco and most likely the next gen 4runner has? That to me is crazy. I think the high end 4runner and low trim LC are going to be really close to each other.
@architypeone8646
@architypeone8646 Жыл бұрын
I'll take the 80 series all day long. Still rugged and extremally off-road capable with just enough creature comforts without being luxurious. They also look fantastic with a lift, 35's and off-road bumpers.
@kj64gaming19
@kj64gaming19 Жыл бұрын
Correction: the TOYOTA lettering on the grill only determines the year, not whether its an FZJ or not. My dad owns a 94 FZJ and it has the TOYOTA lettering. In 95 they went to the badge. The 1FZ-FE was introduced in 93. Edit: another thing to add is that my dads 1994 FZJ80 is triple locked.
@tmwei396
@tmwei396 Жыл бұрын
80 Series is my favorite but I'm very excited about eh 250 series. My biggest fear is dealers and distributors will artificially jack up the price with dealer/port installed packages and equipment and addendum/market adjustment fees.
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