Somebody STOLE all of Warhammer's ideas! (TIME TRAVELERS!)

[@manycatman3627]

Impeccable release timing with GW cribbing off of Horde mode for the new edition of Kill Team

[@motto1834]

Nah the real reveal here is that the guys are also time travellers and thus never have an excuse to release an episode past due.

[@PapaBradford]

​@@motto1834Belial's editing woes are a fixed point in time

[@Daemonik]

Yep that's exactly what I thought when I saw the press release for it. I wholeheartedly expect Horde Mode to be better. (Edit: correcting where autocorrect had set "Horde Mode" to "Horse Mode" because it stole the idea of riding horses from the Attilans)

[@PapaBradford]

​@@Daemonikyou know KT is a totally different game system, right?

[@Juan_Akissyu]

Sorry about horde mode

[@dryerase55]

I can't believe that the British Museum stole their entire concept of stealing from Trazyn.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

I mean, Trazyn predates the British museum by over 65 million years. Yeah, he can sue.

[@basstedson]

Technically we stole that idea from the French, they must have been the ones to copy Trazyn. That's actually correct in the British museums case, the Egypt collection was first stolen when Napoleon invaded Egypt.

[@ianbabcock6802]

The British Museum, practicing gunboat curating since 1753

[@jomialsipi]

@@basstedson Egypt did steal most of their culture from the necrons as well.

[@maxdirocco2028]

Given all the cathedrals, incense, and the whole church structure in the imperium, I think the Catholic Church has some explaining to do

[@Rehteal]

Also the whole violation of basic human rights thing that they had for the longest time- and the destruction/ subjugation of local culture!

[@FhtagnCthulhu]

Putting the baroque period is on blast

[@Grimpo96]

Honestly, when they announced the Kill Team multiplayer, I was wondering how you guys would react. This was golden.

[@DetectiveLance]

How long until the sue you for retroactive theft? XD

[@startingfromlevelone9510]

Leonardo da Vinci clearly stole GW’s idea for wings from the ad mech flyers and ad mech jump troops

[@Bluecho4]

And the robots of the Legio Cybernetica were ripped off by Czech writer Karel Čapek for his 1920 play R.U.R. (aka "Rossum's Universal Robots").

[@SpaceMarine4040]

What do you mean, clearly Leonardo da Vinci was a GW employee sent to the past to give the Admech Codex a playtest. The Rhino was so successful that the US military sent its time travelers to create it under license, that's right they had permission. The Heavy stubber aka M2 browning has always existed and will always exist via the bootstrap paradox

[@DrippyWaffler]

And the helicopter from the deffkopter

[@alt4g]

Spill the beans Brad, you and Eric studied physics to create a time machine specifically to steal GW's co-op idea and rebrand it as your own. I'm onto you

[@timothyjohnson2350]

But they had to put in the effort and make it look like theirs by giving us the beta and then changing it.

[@rookcapcoldblood2618]

Westwood went forward in time, stole Dawn of War and the expansions, and then released Command and Conquer. Then EA went even further, stole Dawn of War 3, and released Command and Conquer mobile to kill their franchise.

[@GolanLP]

You forgot about the third Member of the Herbert/Heinlein-Heist: Isaak Asimov! Not only did he steal the Idea of an intergalactic Imperium of Man (and published it 10 years earlier then Herbert, propeably just to spite him), but also the whole Age of Strife, Rogue Traders and even Tech-Priests!

[@ront.orwell4153]

Pure gold comment, but the sad part is there's a not-insignifcant portion of the fanbase who would unironically claim this.

[@captaincorundum9788]

Can't wait to use this knowledge against the next dune fan boy who screeches "warhammer stole so much from us"

[@TheShadowofDragons]

Did you know the Vindicator is based on the Sturmtiger which is based on the Vindicator?

[@598019001]

Nazi Time travelers mistook 40k models as a ww2 wargame lmao

[@johnrhines6626]

As an artist I suspect most art is derivative, this is the best Dr Who podcast ever

[@Sir_Bucket]

Brad and Erick both being daleks would explain a lot

[@MortiefiedBear]

Don't forget that in Middle-Earth, elves are flat-earthers.

[@brainsoup6475]

Was hoping someone would bring up Tolkien’s globe racism

[@EruCoolGuy]

eeeh, it's a bit more complicated. let's sum it up for those who don't know about it. In the lore, Eru (also known as the God god) originately shaped the world, from music, as a thing that roughly looked like a boomerang on a pizza. But then tomfoolery ensued, he was forcefully woken up from his eternal nap, twice actually, and went on to think : "What if The Ball". And so he made the world off of half the remaining continent, added somemore land that doesn't get any screen time and doesn't appear on the map for most of it, made all of that a perfect sphere, and created an elf-accessed wormhole in the sea towards heaven, which is still flat but now located in the ninth dimension.

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

What ​@@EruCoolGuy

[@meeyatttA]

I can't believe Alexander The Great was just a nerd trying to cosplay as The Emperor

[@startingfromlevelone9510]

Or Lord Solar Leontus

[@Juan_Akissyu]

He read the Horus heresy he had to try sad he only got to India

[@Moramany]

Wait until you hear what the Roman Catholic Church stole from GW…

[@Narcian150]

Pretty crazy to realize all of religion stole their ideas from 40k lore.

[@JetPantherCrispy]

How dare they allegedly pilfer from both James AND his workshop!

[@everythingbutthekitchensin8973]

I can’t believe that Invader Zim ripped off the genestealer cults. Not only the aliens in disguise, but also Professor Membrane looking so similar to the biophagus

[@J4D3L]

Don't forget that all the main european waring nations in ww1 Fell in love with the kriegsmen design. The germans loved the helmet so much, they invented the Stahlhelm (exept for the crest wich was stolen by the french). The british were in awe of those stylish gasmasks. And the french stole their whole drip from shoes to coat...

[@309freddie]

Tolkien is the C'Tan word for "taker". Every Necron knows this. Come on, Man!

[@Rehteal]

Is it really? In any other context, I would assume this is bullshit, but with GW it actually could be.

[@dzhyanproton]

C'tan is hebrew for 'little' too. Random fact.

[@tribalice]

“This episode will cause pain in some viewers” “I can stand it” 37 seconds into the video: starts feeling physical pain until the end if the video

[@myneighborsnorlax3780]

You know i never knew that "watching columbo" was a euphemism for doing drugs😂

[@charlesfisher-kh5sw]

i thought he'd been watching that old detective show

[@jamie210690]

"The Guides publishers then went back in time and successfully sued the cereal manufacturers for copywright infringement" Very Hitchhikers Guide to thr Galaxy

[@Juan_Akissyu]

I remember that bit

[@alexmartinez5859]

You know I feel sorry for you guys. Those quacks at Monty Python had the gall to steal your intermission music and joke for their first movie, Monty Python and the Holy Grail through time travel! I used to like that movie but now I don’t think I can watch it for that one joke being my favorite in the movie!

[@startingfromlevelone9510]

The idea of Rogue Traders and the Ad Mechanicum were clearly stolen by Asimov for his Foundation series. In the chapters where the foundation sets up a cargo cult tech religion to make other space colonies loyal to them, and then later there’s a chapter where they have these traders or merchants sanctioned to trade foundation technology outside the foundation as a way of exerting economic control, but also gaining intelligence.

[@Thrashasaurus]

Preach!

[@calebharris292]

Wait a minute that's just comstar

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

I traveled to the future and stole GW’s plans for upcoming Space Marine releases! I’m leaving them in this comment. _frantic page flipping_ … it’s just Primaris Lieutenants (MAKE THAT EPISODE)

[@codyjackson8648]

NO!!!! Not another Primaris Lieutenant! Did you say it was for the Ultramarines? Double nooooo!!!!

[@Jleot]

"The duel disk is the most powerful shape to put on a wrist"

[@felgonz0]

It’s a real shame the ancient Egyptians time-stole their whole aesthetic from GW

[@panzerloli2719]

Did the germans steal the sturmtiger from the 40k universe? I asked the question befor the video was uploaded, poorhammer just time travel and stole my idea

[@electriccatnd]

You missed one going the farthest back. Charlemagne stole from the Grey Knights by having Paladins.

[@Slouworker]

Yeah but he was fr*nch

[@venomx99x]

you forgot that hp lovecraft also stole the tyrinids and genestealers, like he just made them fish instead of bugs

[@jozefkeresturi2139]

3:34 how Brad pronounced Isekai cringed me so hard. Great work

[@PapaBradford]

Came here just to see if someone said it

[@thepoorhammerpodcast]

We cut a much longer gag about that to keep the pace of the episode, I just hope Berilio kept it for the patron bonus content later this year.

[@rossrichards4057]

You forgot about the 1997 film Event Horizon yoinking the whole warp/demon thing

[@varixin4467]

The Shill% for this episode is: Patreon at 26:49, Merch at 26:53, and KZbin Pleasantries at 27:53 Also, Tolkien just did not even bother changing things when he was ripping off Middle-Earth: Strategy Battle Game. EDIT: The real times for my "Respectable Marketing Practices" speedrun for this episode are 0:01, 0:02, and 0:03 in the same order as my mistaken first list of times. Time bandits and time travel are not real and not invented by Berillio who allowed Brad to travel back in time to encourage me to correct my times.

[@charliecole4430]

1:00 minute in Brad say "I hope you enjoy cringe." Why else am I here, the people who didn't died episodes ago.

[@owen6830]

I can’t believe time bandits stole the entire concept of Egypt from the Thousand sons and Necrons

[@vxicepickxv]

I forgot about how the time thievery transcends languages. Le Morte d'Arthur has quite a bit of similarity to the Horus Heresy.

[@Highlande.r]

Starship Troopers as an IP double stole from GW; the movie makes em like the imperial guard and they die a lot, but in the book they're basically space marines. Heinlin is credited with creating the concept of Power Armor, which he clearly stole from GW

[@IcaroMendonca]

Every passing day, Brad sounds more and more similar to Mr. Plinkett.

[@cameerex6630]

25:12 the best part is that orks can read. They have there own written language

[@MasterOfBaiter]

The dune roast was savage

[@SalemPulsifer]

The moment the episode began I was waiting for the Sturmtiger to show off.

[@suspecthalo]

I can’t believe Shinto myth took from Aeldari lore with the magatama!!!! Also all samurais stole those back flags too! Shameful thieves.

[@AMegaByteYT]

I can imagine it now, a member of staff at in the development team is listening to older Poorhammer podcasts, he turns to James Workshop, da big boss and says "hey... Horde Mode$" I detect not a single grain of salt in this video :D

[@AlvarazCMSB]

Harry Harrison was a major inspiration for a lot of the fluff in the series. He wrote Make Room! Make Room! (soylent green -> corpse starch),Bill the Galactic Hero's Helior -> Terra (first true planet spanning city), Deathworld (Deathworld, the planet of Catachan and I think a better representation of the catachans design idea), Exodites (West of Eden), BIll The Galactic Heroes propaganda ministry thing -> inquisition, FTL Psychics -> psykers/astropaths (that and guild navigators from Dune)

[@Fibsin]

Never did I think I'd hear a time bandits reference in 2024, but damn you took me back to my childhood.

[@Saltism1]

GSC foreheads are more Klingons from Star Trek

[@bopaintsminis]

Remember also that Heinlein stole GW's power armor for his space marines.

[@TheUndeadslayer221]

I like how this video is basically what would happen if a lawyer had to defend against GW in court over a copyright dispute over something.

[@ChewysBeard]

Absolutely loved the Monty Python 'Intermission'. Really brings the whole video together.

[@captainnyet9855]

Obligatory "Hey Brad, did you know the Sturmtiger was based on the Vindicator?" Hey Brad, did you know the Sturmtiger was based on the Vindicator?

[@DannyBob526]

Warhammer age of Sigmar is the most blatant example. The even kept the warhammer title

[@georgem7276]

You also forgot how Michael Moorcock stole the Chaos Gods

[@ANDELE3025]

Technically Moorcocks Chaos is not that related to 40k Chaos. Its the D&D redesign of the compass rose used for the EC chaos (adding the crooked ring or smaller arrows for non-cardinal directions depending on which book you look they had to reprint due to cucked publishers despite Moorcock himself saying he is ok with EC content being featured) and the demons Balor (clearly 100% not balrog), Vrock (whose redesign 100% wasnt based on the Dark Crystal with Nagpa being a bit of a flop), Hezrou with leg replacements from a sitting herbivore dino or ork (or tomb trapper with orc/zombie head and/or Nelfanshee parts depending on which of the 3 old designs you look at) and Glabrezu that obviously TSR stole from GW with time travel.

[@TheThedude44]

I can’t believe some time hooligan stole my unique and perfect comment that pointed out how the vindicator looks like a strumtiger!!!

[@joshvon8495]

These damn time bandits….looks like Jean Claude Van Damme is going to have to bring back the Timecops

[@markberghel275]

This episode is a cautionary tale about the dangers of overdosing on sarcasm.

[@noehonegger4624]

you forgott charles darvin clearly basing his theory of evolution on the tyrranids

[@natcracken]

I can't believe my own parents went back in time and stole the idea to make a great unclean one. Do better mom.

[@drizztfirefly]

I adore this episode. The editing, the voice over, and the love oozing out of this. Thank you for this!

[@SuffocatedGuy]

I applaud the magnificent effort to record this whole thing with a straight face.

[@stewartriley4690]

I think this is the fastest I've ever gotten to an episode. It'll keep me going while I wait for boarding to open up on this plane. Thanks for the wonderful entertainment Thanks.

[@Paul_Teal]

The conspiracy goes so deep, it goes back to the ancient Egyptians who stole their aesthetic from Thousand Sons and dynasties from Necrons.

[@thorscape3879]

Crytek stole the Crysis suit from the Vindicare Assassin.

[@mlodikk]

14:30 We all waited for it😂

[@danielbalder]

Starship troopers stole the idea of super powered space Marines via time travel. StarCraft stole Zerglings from Hormagaunts via time travel.

[@flameknightdragon]

i can't believe hat starcraft time traveled to steal the 2003 resculpts for the nids.

[@charlesfisher-kh5sw]

no, brad, yu-gi-oh CLEARLY ripped-off paradox-billiards-vostroyan-roulette-4th-dimensional-chess-strip-poker!

[@dramsac17]

As this episode goes on, I'm slowly realizing that I would rather live in a world where this was all true.

[@magnus0017]

Thank goodness we learned that two noble souls are out there, though, who truly work hard and be creative, developing their own ideas rather than pawning off other people's work as their own: GW and Isekai.

[@ryetee123]

Last time I was this early Berilio had a healthy sleep schedule

[@Fibsin]

Gengis Khan took so much, obviously he named himself after his favourite khorne demon and then took some of the white scars themes and used them, but with horses. You could argue the khan as a primarch was taken by this lucrative time bandit, but it's super obvious that it's from the demon that is quite literally Gengis khan, they look so similar.

[@jacobbaugher3599]

JOHN STEAKLEY’S ARMOR MENTIONED; LIKE BUTTON PRESSED *NEURON ACTIVATION*

[@Rehteal]

That meme was stolen from one of the Horde Mode misery cards.

[@Danc929]

I cant believe gundam made Char, the ostensibly treasonous but maybe not ace pilot who has a close relation with the main character of the loyalist forces, who pilots a bright red mech. I mean thsy just stole farsight! And so did everyone else who makes a mecha anime apparently!

[@vdate]

Look. LOOK. Working out the time-bandit thread of responsibility for the whole Char thing is a cluaterfuck of legendary proportions - consider that after having stolen Farsight to make Char, future versions of themselves proceeded to go back and steal the concept from their past selves. (And don't fet me started on the whole Prince Heinel thing showing some signs of even earlier heists triggering that one.) My point is, tracing THAT chain of achronoacquisitive causality would make the timeline look like the Hapsburg family tree, and down that road madness lies.

[@vdate]

Also, consider the MUCH more obvious time theft at play here - Char's highly-distinctive red fightbot, specifically noted to be three times (or 30% depending on revision, I guess) faster than the regular variety! I mean, come on - it's right there!

[@caledfwlchchime2820]

STARGATE MENTIONED HELL YEAH

[@happosaai]

Seriously best episode ever!

[@iluxius8216]

Dont forget that even the ancient cultures of the Mesopotamians also stole nurgle!

[@thatguy9569]

This episode has bonus content vibes, I love it. (Also hoping there's some good bonus content from this one)

[@recording_closet9100]

13:15 I mean I'd argue that the Dorn is closer to the M6 Heavy Tank than the M26 Pershing

[@misterglo1394]

I can’t believe ghost ship games stole the leagues of votaan to make deep rock galactic

[@ernstbergerbrent]

Thank god R Scott didn't direct Romulus, which was a really good alien movie. The crest on the heads of tyranid warriors, zoanthropes, and norn emissaries looks a lot like the queen alien's head.

[@Doomlonbbyn]

Also remember that Asimov later (earlier? Time Travel is messy.) re-stole the idea of galactic imperiums from Herbert.

[@brigman6]

14:49 I love how you very specifically titled this section.

[@evilfuzzydoom]

15:19 is possibly the best joke you guys have ever done. Well played.

[@Speeds_Gaming_Corner]

The shittiest one was when those scumbags over at the Poorhammer podcast stole my idea for cheap 40k lists and did it a year before me.

[@vxicepickxv]

How did you guys miss Tolkien completely cribbing Lord of the Rings from Games Workshop?

[@AAhmou]

Cannot believe actual time traveller Isaac Asimov would retire from James Workshop to write 40k Lore centered around the Golden Age of Technology.

[@FloydOschie]

The most obvious time travel thief are the people that made the 2000 AD comics

[@vdate]

Yeah, I really feel like pinning the Judge Dredd thing on the '95 movie adaptation was a real proment miss on Brad and Eric's part. I mean, they're clearly not INOCENT - casting Stallone was clearly their way of thumbing their noses at GW - but ar best that makes them accessories after the fact, where 2000 AD was clearly the real villain there. Unaccountably sloppy detective work on our hosts' part. Unthinkable, really, eapecially considering Eric's customary levels of lore-attention and legwork.

[@Slightlylyons1]

Interestingly GW had a working relationship with 2000AD and the original Arbites were a reuse of the Judge Dread RPG minis.

[@vdate]

@@Slightlylyons1 cmon man you can't break kayfabe like this I mean, fair, and also certainly good to know, but, like... There's A Bit to commit to, y'know?

[@JetPantherCrispy]

13:42 Eric the Infinite

[@FearzLezz]

Cenobites stole drukhari coven look

[@GaryKeenan]

Rhino design is free; Nobody pays for rhino design. 12:50

[@joedolph9093]

That “me’sha gonna have to tear it down” comment made me almost wreck my car. 😂

[@Slightlylyons1]

The Admech were "inspired" by A Canticle for Leibowitz and The Foundation

[@archellothewolf2083]

BRO. You're killing me. I JUST printed the Hoard Mode rules for me and my friends. You can't kill me before we get a game in. xD

[@Rawilow]

To be fair, GW had done a "horde mode" coop for Warcry's first edition with Challenge Battles of the 2020 Tome of Champions and the Rat Hunters coop campaign of the 2021 Tome of Champions, so it's not coming out of nowhere. But still, timing on this one is weird.

[@Rawilow]

I just hope Warcry gets the same level of coop rules if/when it gets a third edition

[@אופקאברהם-ק1צ]

What you call sarcasm overload is like a Monday morning at best

[@Axquirix]

Hollywood even stole the entire concept of the Warp to use in the movie Event Horizon! And the diving industry in the 1800s stole the design for diving suits from the Solar Auxillia!

[@lockjaw36]

Next your going to tell me that they stole from H.P Lovecraft.......wait a minute.....

[@Rehteal]

On the mention of Predator, forgot to mention how the Predator was just a copy of a Striking Scorpion. (Specifically the newer designs with the segmented dreadlock thing)

[@Insane_IK]

You've probably got this before but what is that intro music, unironically slaps

[@Carbidestruck]

”Night out” by LIQWYD

[@corbingovers7559]

Man how did you miss heinlein stealing power armored space marines?! They even drop down to the planet with jet packs!

[@madduckuk]

"Mad Donna" Ulanti. Madonnas parents went back in time, compressed the name a bit and brainwashed their child into having a thing for cone bras.

[@Elazul.Lapislazuli]

Two brothers stole the whole concept of Imperium of man, and went back to italy and founded a City they named after them self, they even copied the gothic language. They changed the name slightly from Imperium Humanum (Imperium of Man) to Imperium Romanum (Imperium of Rome) to disguise the heist. Later their children even copied the ecclesiarchy and called it Church of Rome

[@EstradusTheDragon]

There was an episode of Dirk Gently's Holstic Detective Agency where he's trying to find an old lady's lost cat and the answer is time travel. If you want to learn to think logically; you gotta try Dirk Gently.

[@KitSAllGoode]

I hate to admit it, as a huge fan of Battletech, but mech piloting feudal nobility with only a loose understanding of their technology dependent on a religious technocult to maintain critical infrastructure of their warmaking is awfully similar to the Imperial Knights. Literally in the same space of tabletop wargaming too. Perhaps this time based perfidy is why they can be so much cheaper with their models and keep their rules so much more stable over time? But this does expose a weakness in the time bandit conspiracy. After all, these time bandits steal from each other! For example, the "author" of A Canticle for Leibowitz, obviously ripped off Comstar, who were clearly ripped off of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

[@DiggingForFacts]

They really just looked at the concept of the Imperial Knight and then glanced over at the asses of a bunch of broadsides and riptides and some 30K tanks and then took that back to the 80's. They even had the gall to give some of their homework to Japan to copy for Dougram and Crusher Joe. They could have done a good hommage at least and give the black knight not just the head but also the pauldrons...

[@thelonelybolter8245]

Take Tolkien's fantasy, shove it in Frank Herbert's Dune, and garnish with a dollop of Lovecraftian Cuthulu. That is literally, LITERALLY, 40k.