Somethings SERIOUSLY Different About This LP ! | 2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional 12 String Goldtop

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📚 Description: I've always wanted to try one of these 12 string Les Pauls out. The elongated headstock just looks so goofily unwieldy in photos - but it isn't so bad in person. This Les Paul Traditional 12 string is far from traditional - but very cool!
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0:20 - Unboxing
1:43 - All About 12 Strings
3:54 - The Les Paul Traditional
5:48 - First Impressions
6:37 - Case Candy
7:07 - Inside Look / Specs
18:07 - Tone Demo (Clean)
21:26 - Tone Demo (Dirty)
24:46 - Final Thoughts
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There's Something Different About This LP... | 2012 Gibson Les Paul Traditional 12 String Goldtop
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[@Trog]

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[@PeperJaron]

Yes! The world needs moar electric twelvestrings ! Got a 2013 ES-335/12 in antique cherry myself and absolutely love it. Hail the electric 12 string!

[@drivenmad7676]

"Wangly Dangly" I love it lol

[@calvinlee8103]

What do you think of the Joe Bonamassa "Bonabyrd" Les Paul with the Firebird headstock? I've got #76, and it's one of the best (and strangest) Les Pauls I've ever played. Check one out if you get a chance!

[@JamesThomas-zl9er]

Did you review any of the hollow body Les Pauls??

[@murphvienna1]

22:33 That wailing when you do bends on a distorted 12-string is just PHENOMENAL!

[@dalocknessroxter2027]

I can appreciate how rarely you tune down to drop D in the demos, yet you took the extra time to do on the 12 string 😆

[@bsbrooks455]

I am a 12 string lover. You mentioned that Gibson made 12 string 335's in the 60's. I have a 1967 Epiphone (Kalamazoo) Riviera 12 string version of that guitar that is awesome. Only difference is that it has mini humbuckers instead of the full size ones. Personally, for me, I think the clarity of the mini humbuckers is actually more desirable for a 12 string. It's got some wear and tear on it, but the neck is still straight and it plays great. Says a lot for the 60's Gibson and Epiphone Kalamazoo era.

[@allrequiredfields]

I've got a '66 335 12st and it's phenomenal. Mine was cheaper than a brand new one as well, so if you're feeling like owning one, nab one soon, because they aren't going to keep getting overlooked for much longer. It's nutty too, because a 60s 335 is considerably more expensive than a 335 of the same year, and you can simply string it up with a 6 strings and a new nut and you've got a much cheaper 60's 335 as well.

[@joermnyc]

If you think this is neck heavy, the Reverend Airwave has locking tuners on the giant 12 string headstock! (And the body is chambered too!)

[@garyeckel1656]

locking tuners suck.

[@ScottJones12stringscott]

I'm always amazed when people assume that distortion doesn't work on 12s. Trogly showed the cool overtone created with the distortion turned up a bit

[@psychedeliccarrie5921]

A lot of King Gizzard's early records (Nonagon and MOTU most specific) make wonderful use of 12 string distortion.

[@jujuUK68]

The longest 12 string review without someone trying half a dozen Byrds numbers. Well done!

[@tippytailmckitty2658]

I was expecting the Byrds also.

[@ryanfulldark2775]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ericbgordon1575]

I wouldn't have minded a little Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers or Pretenders myself. Few people know that one guitarist that has played 12-string electrics is Andy Summers of the Police.

[@julosx]

@@ericbgordon1575 And how about Miki Bernyi from Lush and Piroshka, she played on 12 strings (between others) all of her life : ES-335/12, Ric 370/12, Epiphone Riviera XII, Stratocaster 12.

[@Guitarsthatkill]

23:25 The moment Trogly ceased as a mere mortal man and became a legend.

[@thesemich_]

song name?

[@romeo.9063]

@@thesemich_ "Raining Blood" by Slayer. One of the classic litmus tests of pure heavy metal riffs.

[@thesemich_]

@@romeo.9063 thx buddy

[@WillDominsky]

I have a cheap Chinese copy of this guitar by Ktone, which I bought new a couple of years ago. In researching that purchase, I read that the Gibson Les Paul Traditional 12 was only made for the 2012 model year, and that there are only 225 of them. They sold for $3500 when new. This is from a non-authoritative source, so take it with a grain of salt.

[@syx9986]

The screen says "Middle" on most of the demo despite how much you played the bridge lol

[@myoptik3x103]

Man Austin, you are not kidding about having a guitar no one else has. I have never even heard of these, let alone seen one. Thanks for bringing us such a rare bird!

[@flavaice]

Look up Warren Haynes. He has one and plays it live often.

[@Astro_touches_children]

@@flavaice I was gonna send him...

[@ooferrell]

I was already excited when I saw the thumbnail and figured oh cool a 12 string Les Paul.... Then I saw was the gold top color in my face melted..... I need one of these in my life like 3 years ago :) lol

[@Greg-vd5om]

Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!

[@rondobondo6600]

Best comment wooohooo your amazing 🍪

[@gethinap]

House, House, House!!!

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

Greg is Trogly's boyfriend

[@PopeyeFPV]

👨‍👨‍👦🌈

[@dommadonia9207]

Indeed

[@jayrichardson5811]

Now that Epiphone are making high end Les Paul and Sg models again I won't touch a Gibson...the Epiphone Customs Moderns and prophecy Models are high end and flawless!

[@hkguitar1984]

12-String Les Paul! Love it, tons of fun!

[@waynecribb4922]

You gotta love that chimey bridge pickup. I fell in love with this guitar from the get go. I always liked the 12 string twang back in the 60s. Ala the Byrds . The songs you played samples of were perfect for a 12 string, but really any tune is enhanced by the vibe of 12 strings. Double your pleasure!!! Awesome video Trog.

[@Fedex4156]

Great review haven't seen a 12 in a while. That would be wild in a Pelham blue! With a stinger on the back of headstock. The 2017 in the brown neck through is a killer!

[@piotrkrasnik2903]

Great 12-string :) Since few years I'm using only 12-string electric. Sounds cool in each tone option (clean, distortion etc.). The one thing which annoys me - it's hard to find parts like 12-saddle bridge etc. in my country and last time I waited half of year to receive Goeldo tun-o-matic from Germany. Even my favorite Pyramid 12-strings flats I need to buy from foreign shops.

[@julosx]

I'm used to this giant headstock since I have a period ES-335/12 (you can watch the videos I made a few years ago). What you need with a 12-strings is not distorsion but a chorus and, if possible, a stereo amplification to enjoy it more. A 12-strings Les Paul can be a good choice to play early Sisters Of Mercy tracks.

[@tylercole5218]

That sg melody maker 12 string in the finish at 3:05 just feels perfect for a 12 string

[@hifibrony]

12-string electrics are magical, especially Rics. But to get all of the magic, you must play them through an old tubed Vox or smaller tubed vintage Fender amp. The 12-string chime is doubled with those amps.

[@ferox965]

One of the best 12 string acoustic electric hybrids is the Godin A12. Fantastic tank of a guitar.

[@wooferdevlin3571]

Sinister Minstrel!! Sounds great on dissonant minor chords. BTW, I have a 'Hog top w/ ball bat neck and '59 Tribute pups'. Those pups' would be great in this 12 str. - mad chime. Like to see this in a double neck!! Ü

[@bassfingers]

I love it!. Could also work as a 6 string in Nashville tuning 👍🏻🇬🇧

[@OGSontar]

Yeah, I'd rock that. My 6-string Les Paul would start gathering dust, well on it's case, anyway. Sadly, those are way out of my price range.

[@barefoot-n-blues]

Austin, I am a little late to this party. You mentioned the possibility of stringing it as a 6 and it reminded me of Johnny Winter at Woodstock. Yeah I come from another era. Before he got into the Firebird, he played a Fender 12 strung with 6. I don't know the reason he did this though. Maybe the spacing was conducive for fast switching between slide and picking. Interestingly he used a plumber's pipe for a slide. Just brought back memories. Your videos have educated me so much about Les Pauls. Before you, I thought an LP was an LP except for the Studio. 😂. Before the internet, I finally got my dream, a Les Paul. It was a classic and I loved the tone but hated playing it due to the neck. Except for LP Jr. I never revisited the brand until your videos. I will make an informed decision this time.

[@Natalynn]

Really love to hear fade to black intro on that. As it’s played on a 12 string, I think it’ll sound cool!

[@beatleme2]

The maple neck is great for added strength, which my fav 88 les Paul studio has, with ebony dot fret board

[@gavinalaniz3658]

I would’ve never thought I would hear a 12 string les Paul playing come as you are

[@anthonyhunt701]

I always loved the random single-neck 12s, like the Firebird & the SG Melody Makers!

[@randyheath8566]

Austin in the House 🏠

[@honeyblunt5150]

I was wondering if you would ever get around to one of these! You should throw a pickguard back onto it, and just hold onto it.

[@wadeguidry6675]

Sounds like it stays in tune real well, I like it!

[@PastelComGini]

The next guy? I wonder why this isn't a keeper. That SOAD thing sounded good.

[@dommadonia9207]

Arrrrggg! It's raining blood from some wallmart in the sky😄! I loved this demo, I haven't listened to the full play thru in a while. But this was just so special. I love the breakdown parts the most. Pity the pitting but LOVE that neck.

[@flavaice]

Hey Austin, Warren Haynes has one of these and uses it live. I also remember Slash had one at some point with Velvet Revolver.

[@mkenific]

I have 5 LP's and my '17 Traditional is my go to. Non weight relieved and Burstbuckers. It's a great guitar. As Trogly said, in '17 the Traditional was the actual Standard.

[@Guitarluvr717]

No unicorns hiding in the finish?

[@MVos-md3rp]

My 1998 roland vg8 can do this guitar and the rick with and without distortion. However, if money were no object, I too would like to have this one in my collection. Nice demo.

[@ScottJones12stringscott]

The majority of my guitar are 12s. I got addicted to that sound 35 years ago. I dont have a single 24.75 neck for 12 string so at some point I'm going to have to break down and buy one. Thanks Trogly for letting me see this one

[@jimmyjames2022]

That is one gorgeous neck and body, lucky find. Except for the unfortunate salt humidity damage, where maybe the electronics are degraded a bit as well as the chrome. (Was it in a yacht?) Everyone needs a 12 string, but an electric 12 string Les Paul is awesome.

[@oldman0995]

I have the cherry burst version of this guitar in mint condition with the same case It is fun to play. I tried the Rick 12 string but the neck was too narrow for me. This seems wider to me. Thx for sharing

[@samvermeulen9740]

You should get one of those hollowbody mandolin/guitar doublenecks like the one that is played on the bands the last waltz. Would be very cool

[@austinledley]

I always wanted to try one of these

[@Ajt2306]

that reign in blood part cracked me up. it sounded so wrong but fun at the same time :D Mastodon uses 12 string as 9 string on the Crack the Skye album. they have E, B and G doubled up

[@robertamato358]

I have always played 12 strings, having owned many acoustic as well as electric versions there of. I have never seen an LP 12 string however and I love it! I think the weight relief is going to work against this guitar. Bad neck dive I would suspect. I have always preferred mini humbuckers on my electric 12’s for their chime. I think the maple neck is a good idea however given the added strength as well as brighter tone. All in all a beautiful little beast! Now should I sell my Rick to get one? 🤔

[@donkeyboy585]

No 😏

[@ericbgordon1575]

I'm starting to think watching this video that I should have chosen this version of the Les Paul instead of the 6 string that I got during 2018.

[@calvinlee8103]

I own one of these, but they can be hard to find, as they didn't make too many. I also own a 12-string strat, and I HIGHLY recommend that one. It's not quite as pricey as the Gibson, but it sounds and feels absolutely incredible. Gibson VS Fender is definitely just a personal preferance thing though.

[@robertamato358]

Rickenbacker’s headstock design kicks every other company’s by a mile. Also their primary string on top choice just adds a unique sound. Surprisingly no other manufacturer has thought to copy these obviously superior design features.

[@ericbgordon1575]

My music mentor had a lot of qualms about various Rickenbacker features, particularly the string retention and the string placement. He thought both of them were technical drawbacks.

[@beingagainstfascismisagood104]

I have a Heritage Cherry Burst of version of this. It plays great with loads of jangles

[@melodygrim471]

12-string is my go-to. I wanted one so bad when I was a kid. My step-dad saved for a year to give me my first 12 string for my 18th birthday. It was stolen when I was 21. Now I have a Takamine 12string acoustic/electric that my late husband bought me back in 2014. I have other guitars - and. Basses - and I,'ve had several stolen - along with all accoutrement! Keyboard, Uke, Mandolin, Lap Steel, along with several guitars! It took me YEARS to get all of that and I went out of town for 2 weeks and came home to an .empty shell of a house! I know most gigging musicians encounter that at least once in a lifetime! So now I started slowly - bought a used 6 string for $50, then my daughter gave me a used 6 string that was - once upon a time - marketed on HSN. But it's serviceable. Disabled and widowed ,- some of the things I had before I will NEVER be able to replace - pedals - you know! All that stuff,! Even though half of my fretting hand is dead - no feeling - chords are HORRENDOUS! - I spend time playing my 12 string every day! So, if you ever get tired of it, think of me. (I will turn 64 on December 12. Hint! Hint! 😂) THAT is a BEAUTIFUL INSTRUMENT. Don't let it just sit there - pick it up and play it - let it show you what it can do! Sure, there are a lot of songs not fit for a 12 string , but there are a lot of songs just waiting to be re-imagined! ENJOY THAT BEAUTY! ❣️❣️❣️

[@traviesoarcefan3063]

I'm sorry for your losses. I've also been a victim of theft, one time by my own brother! He stole my game used-autographed bat from my all-time favorite player and sold it for drugs along with more of my collection. Now, I refuse to spend big money on anything and have completely detached from being materialistic. I don't care about owning anything expensive. At least they can't walk off with the homes we've paid for and live in! 🤣

[@ChrisOBrien666]

Love your videos, you have some pretty unique and interesting guitars! Page played a 12 string on a few Zeppelin songs as well, Song Remains the Same, 10 Years Gone, Livin Lovin Maid, and of course Stairway. I’ve played a 12 string Les Paul and I wasn’t very impressed. If I wanted a Gibson electric 12 string, I’d just get a 1275, for a single neck 12 string, a Rick or a Fender XII would be the way to go. Fender kind of reissued the original Fender XII with the Alternative Reality XII but the regular 12 string Stratocaster is a horrible guitar, IMHO.

[@doanlinh9525]

wow, 23:34 the demo of Raining Blood on this Les Paul is amazing, man.

[@av.punk.801]

Gahhh I missed it! To busy trying to figure out midi drums while I'm out a cymbal set 😅 either way, a 12 string Les Paul is the only 12 sting I'd buy! Greetings and well wishes from Utah man!

[@bakman2411]

👍🏻

[@brendon2684]

Slayer on a 12 string…. Yes!

[@trevorvogler4661]

I've noticed over time your playing is getting a lot better 👍👍,I think you'd be crazy to sell that Les Paul 12 string, sounds & looks brilliant

[@kearneydillon4803]

My friend has a 12 string SG. LOVE IT!!

[@markh3279]

I love the sounds it makes Austin and I never knew Gibson made those. Keep up the great and interesting videos buddy.

[@EarthAltar]

If you want to see how to play an electric 12 string go watch Jimmy Page play the Song Remains the Same from the movie of the same name. He's using his red EDS-1275 and has the 6 string neck tuned for the Rain Song which he goes into right after. That forces him to play all of the rhythm and solos for TSRTS on the 12 string neck. It's quite the spectacle. A highlight of my childhood watching that on the big screen at the midnight movies.

[@willpipes9795]

Slayer on a 12 string Gibson,Not something I expected to hear,but Soooo killer!

[@LoneWolf-ni1zj]

Stopped playing my Acoustic Martin DM-12 after the neck heel broke in 1979. I didn't realize how much I truly missed my 12 string sound until I bought a Heritage 12 String LP about 5 months ago... I haven't touched the other 20 guitars since... Hmmm.

[@Beatypatrockks]

I always wanted a 12string Les Paul but the $5.000 price tag is a no-no. I made one myself with a kit from fretwire. put EMG 81/85 on it. the neck feels like a real Gibson. fist time I assembled a guitar kit. feels and sounds amazing. one tenth of the price. no neckdive. P.S i'm not working for fretwire. just sharing my experience.

[@laudnivek-k9]

What an awesome playing demo!

[@sxethibs]

When talking about making the strings feel "slinkier", one thing you can do is top wrap the strings, although I don't know how well that would work on the 12 string bridge

[@mikestrowbridge]

I have read and seen documentation of long neck tenons in Gibson Les Paul Standards from 2008 through 2012.

[@americanjoe5486]

Put together my first 12-string conversion on a Les Paul in 1976

[@madelineredesky6533]

12 string sets that start with .009 feel a little looser than the 10 sets. They are a little harder to find and sometimes the shops have to make a custom set to get that size but I love 12 strings with 9 on the E

[@MikeE-]

Very interested in seeing you demo a split coil p90 lp

[@JazzTheBass]

Those 12 string SGs are scary. Just imagine the neck dive on those haha

[@craigtilton8957]

12 strings are fun to play. The distortion tones you got really jangles my speakers. Awesome.

[@rodrick412]

I love your channel !!! The guitars in your videos are incredible, rare models that I did not know. Congratulations on the channel and finding these gems

[@shfla7293]

Selector on middle sounds sooooo good…

[@metalinyourhead3604]

I love it. I’d be willing to buy one but in order for them to be worth peoples while they’d have to be SG style (because those are cheaper) or if it was LP style, they’d have to bring the price down by making it a studio or chambering it.

[@originalhorrorinc.5401]

I personally think 2016 was the best year for Traditionals they all had amazing tops and every 2016 I've played plays and resonates so good. Had a few 2017s but they all lacked resonance. I've owned a few of the newer Standards that came out 2020 and 2021 and they just all lack uniqueness and not great maple tops. Just didn't play the way I like. If you can find a very good Traditional I think their better then the 50s/60s Standards out today

[@Skrubenz]

These headstocks are a war crime. Companies need to figure out how to redesign their headstocks like Rickenbacker did, instead of going in paint and using the click and stretch function.

[@joermnyc]

Charvel did the Rickenbacker trick on their Surfcaster 12 string a bunch of years ago.

[@christopherweise438]

Stratochrister - How about the B.C. Rich trick they did on their 10 string? Extra tuners off the body behind the bridge?

[@sunnohh]

Tradition, gibson can’t change

[@TheRealcdawg22]

I like the headstock.

[@JC-ye7pj]

Cool guitar, there's a video of Doyle Bramhall II playing Hendrix "hear my Train Comin'" on ebony 12 string Les Paul, he's a lefty who strings it with the High E on top, he's pretty amazing.

[@cmdrdiamondfast1162]

I loved how The Call Of Ktulu sounded on that beast, also raining blood was damned nice!

[@montemullen2801]

I love electric 12strings. This is awesome.

[@stefanjonsson2423]

I think slash used an older 12 string Gibson SG on the album World On Fire, not sure what year it was though

[@rondobondo6600]

Wallmart

[@dommadonia9207]

Indeed

[@the_nondrive_side]

1:32 see the digital stripe.. It's perfectly symmetrical quarter sawn.

[@barrymiller2272]

That neck flame....worth the price of admission! Keep it Austin👍🤘

[@ericbgordon1575]

Watching this review, I had one of my little Eric epiphanies. What I thought of is that Gibson (to the best of my knowledge) has never manufactured/marketed a 12-string Firebird - meaning a standard Firebird body and neck with a 12-string headstock and bridge. It could then be either reverse or non reversed in the headstock. What came to my mind before that was how Gibson briefly marketed the 12-string SG back in 2012 and '13. I played one in my local Guitar Center outlet. If I had by that point already convinced my leaseholder to take out a gear card for me, I would have that guitar today.

[@jfinester]

Gibson made a Firebird 12-string from 1965 to about 1970. It was only available as a non-reverse model, and as a very small-production item. I’ve only seen one between ‘65 and now. (2021). It sat at Leo’s Music in San Jose, CA until about the late ‘70s. The double-triangle headstock inlay is right off Gibson’s B-45 acoustic 12-string that they produced for years.

[@ericbgordon1575]

They should bring that sucker back,@@jfinester.

[@calvinlee8103]

What do you mean? He showed one in this very video.

[@ericbgordon1575]

What he showed us was an SG/Firebird hybrid,@@calvinlee8103.

[@wonderwomanguy]

What are your favorite brands for strings for 12-string electrics? I've got a Fender Electric XII; Elixirs sounded amazing, D'Addario were just ok.

[@gavin4848]

The rick has the octave strings the other way around. Is there a big difference?

[@RevGerryRM]

I don't pay much attention to Gibson guitars. I'm here for everything else you show every blue moon. Lol

[@logan-wq5ub]

@@mizmo21 gibson does suck, epiphones are just as good and are way cheaper. to me fender has always been the better company and have better and more interesting guitars.

[@coldbastard6859]

Trogly, could cover some topic about the japanese counterfeit Les Pauls like Greco, Burny and Orville from the 80s and early 90s?

[@ravenheart1439]

My favorite inlays are the double necks, wonder why they dont offer that on any other guitars..

[@davecarakasavage919]

The string tension on the stop bar or tailpiece from the 12 strings rips the posts out the only really playable and only ones won’t rip posts out is trapeze tailpiece style epiphone 12string les Pauls (

[@allrequiredfields]

It actually sounds shockingly good. I'd avoid hacking away at chords like that though - arpeggiated stuff sounds best on 12 strings. The distorted stuff had an interesting vibe. I'd use like a 10 band EQ though, if I was going distorted - It's absolutely shocking how much 'bad' you can dial out of the tones and harmonics with an EQ pedal.

[@metalinyourhead3604]

Why would you use an EQ? I’m just curious.

[@codyrex101]

What song is at 24:18? I'm pretty sure that it's Chop Suey but I'm not too sure.

[@invisableobserver]

It's beautiful ~ I think some publicity photo of Elvis with the SG double neck is what inspired Jimmy Page to get one. I want to play that 12 string with the Floyd rose.

[@hkguitar1984]

#7. Wooo Who. Walmart!

[@dommadonia9207]

Indeed

[@allisonholmesmusic97]

I’ve always wanted a 12 string Les Paul. I didn’t know that they actually made them

[@stephenstevens6573]

I was gonna say, Austin. You will NEVER find another one as clean and unmolested as that one. You BETTER keep it...

[@jonathanhudak2059]

Stephen Stevens.. . damn straight

[@Chaunceylola]

Speaking of strange Les Pauls, have you ever seen the little Les Paul Edward VH played in concert when he played little guitars? I swore there were two in the music store in my hometown back in the 80s but I can’t find a thing about them online.

[@hectormutton2542]

✌️

[@cameronduffy8115]

Warren's got one in sunburst and when I saw it I fell in lust immediately 😍 check gold dust woman with grace potter and the mule

[@bluekoi455]

Wow,Chtulu sounds fantastic on that thing!

[@phillippitts6294]

Cool , a extra g string to try to keep in tune .

[@jamesmitchell3357]

It says this video is unavailable on this device

[@honkytonkinson9787]

I assume that is even more prone to headstock breaks, with that long headstock and probably around 66% more string tension Sounds wonderful though and turns any pop song instantly into a mid 60s hit! Come as you are sounded like it came from the Rubber Soul album!