FATAL TEMPTATIONS - Ravel's Ondine - Analysis Part 1/2: Form

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Sonata Secrets

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@Ivan_1791
@Ivan_1791 3 жыл бұрын
I remember listening to Gaspard de la Nuit and not understanding it well at first (that was around 2015-2016). But it was so mysterious I got obsessed with it until I was able to get what it was all about and it is one of my favourite piano works to this day.
@zeke7269
@zeke7269 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what happened to me
@hardiksharma7230
@hardiksharma7230 Жыл бұрын
i was so confused as i despised this piece and found it to be quite eccentric, but the moment everything clicked and made sense, i saw everything there was to see
@PianoDawg1620
@PianoDawg1620 3 жыл бұрын
A perfect analysis of an absolutely beautiful piece! And also a mild cliffhanger.
@kuradipingviin
@kuradipingviin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this treasure! I recently started listening to Ravel and searched an analysis of this piece, especially for the climax and I couldn't find any. Thank you very much, Henrik!
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I look even closer at the climax in part 2, coming next week.
@Mazurking
@Mazurking Жыл бұрын
Gaspard de la nuit was the first and only piece I ever heard that made me gasp and left me speechless. I wish I could hear it for the first time again. Looking forward to the analysis (I haven't watched the video yet)
@bitter8951
@bitter8951 3 жыл бұрын
simply magical. I can't think of another piece that makes quite the same atmosphere as this one. Scarbo next? nevermind. Just knowing that someone was daring enough to make a video essay about this piece is way way more than i can ever ask for. keep it up. and most importantly, thank you! I'm looking forward to the next part.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
hehe yeah no Scarbo unfortunately. But Le Gibet is coming later in the summer.
@keithkunikida1222
@keithkunikida1222 3 жыл бұрын
Why no Scarbo though? Scarbo is such an interesting piece to analyse the harmony and overall experience and expression
@joshuaharper372
@joshuaharper372 3 ай бұрын
Scarbo is also even harder than Ondine and Le Gibet. And kinda crazy! I'd love to see an analysis of it, though.
@mikebel74
@mikebel74 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this post! This piece has remained in my #1 spot for years. Your analysis is quite unique and well done. I eagerly await part 2. This channel is brilliant.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike! It will be more thorough in part 2, more like my other analyses.
@MullahSteinberg
@MullahSteinberg 3 жыл бұрын
Ah another wonderful video analyst. Really enjoy your channel. Thank you. My real job in life is a film script writer so I am always seeing things laterally. I really cannot resist the way you lay out your background and your newfound dress code. If I did not know you and your previous video , I can picture Edward Snowdon working as an undertaker in Russia trying to sell a funeral service to an old lady. Sorry, just cannot resist it. It will make a really good comedy sketch.
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, I'm happy someone noticed! That plot sounds mildly intruiging...
@atmadeepmukherjee5550
@atmadeepmukherjee5550 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Sir! I really love this piece and the other pieces in Gaspard de la Nuit. Thank you very much for this analysis. Have a nice day! -Atmadeep
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
It's my pleasure!
@VsevolodTokmakov93
@VsevolodTokmakov93 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thank you. Also if you know the jazz standard Giant steps, you can see that the chord progression is very similar to the culmination of Ondine (the B minor dramatic cry). Same chain of keys related by major 3rds preceded by their respective dominants, even the same key (apart from being minor instead of major)
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm aware of Giant steps, that's an interesting connection. I suppose in both cases they are going for harmonic leaps that are far away from the previous one.
@EdmundHeng80
@EdmundHeng80 3 жыл бұрын
I got hand cramps practicing Ondine and I gave up lol 😂
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it feels quite unconsiderable for the pianist at times. One shouldn't need too much tense hand motions to get the very soft sound he is going for, but it still takes an already quite developed technique to do just that i suppose...
@EdmundHeng80
@EdmundHeng80 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets Yeah It's a little beyond me as I only have an ATCL. I think this piece is LTCL or FTCL level. I remember watching a video of Alice Sara Ott practicing that right hand part for Ondine. It was quite funny! =D Here's the video. She's one of my favourite interpreters of Satie/Ravel and Debussy. =) kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4TNlJqYpqmBbrc
@chriscamp6971
@chriscamp6971 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Great video
@hi-ph9sk
@hi-ph9sk 3 жыл бұрын
youre the best keep it up!
@Fearlessfirefighterfred
@Fearlessfirefighterfred 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a Analysis on schönbergs pianopieces? Love your Videos and they bring me much joy
@pianoconcertono2
@pianoconcertono2 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel and your videos!
@looney1023
@looney1023 Жыл бұрын
Oooh I had no idea that the rhythmic texture change was a mistake this whole time? Does that apply to other moments in the piece like the split hand version in the 4/4 bar at 11:29, or just when the right hand is playing it alone?
@sirchoppy1810
@sirchoppy1810 3 жыл бұрын
I KNEW u were gunna play this, cuz in the page turning short thingy u uploaded, you were playing Ondine. :)
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
you got it!
@dalethomasdewitt
@dalethomasdewitt Жыл бұрын
Polyrhythm using the meter vs polyrhythm within the beat. Using the traditional 4 centers or appendages of the toe taping public i find more affinity with drummer's sense of real independence
@WondrousHello
@WondrousHello 3 жыл бұрын
what a cliff hanger 😆
@samscriven6452
@samscriven6452 3 жыл бұрын
What model piano do you have? Also I loved you Scriabin recording btw!
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam! It's an old German Rönisch piano.
@iggyman783
@iggyman783 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to read Paul roberts book. Is it on kindle?
@snow_quest
@snow_quest 2 жыл бұрын
11:45 damn, I have wrongfully praticed it for 2 month
@VasDavid577
@VasDavid577 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to stick with rach prelude no. 5. I will need to wait for Gaspard De La Nuit
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a challenge... Jeux d'eau is like a light version in the same vein as this if you want to try Ravel.
@VasDavid577
@VasDavid577 3 жыл бұрын
@@SonataSecrets thanks for the recommendation. I will look into the piece
@diatonicdissonance
@diatonicdissonance 3 жыл бұрын
please do liszt’s arrangement of erlkonig !
@eliseantys2040
@eliseantys2040 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be interested to analyse " la vallée des cloches"? Because no one did on KZbin :)
@AnaPaula-np5rq
@AnaPaula-np5rq 3 жыл бұрын
Perfekt ♥️♥️♥️♥️🌷🌷🌷🌷👏
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
Tack!
@brendanward2991
@brendanward2991 3 жыл бұрын
Cliffhanger!
@SonataSecrets
@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын
hehe yes!
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