SONIC 1 PROTOTYPE - Playing the Beta (Showcase)

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@StanBlankPlushelodeon
@StanBlankPlushelodeon 3 жыл бұрын
Now someone needs to find the very first prototype from the 1990 Tokyo Toy Show. It’s so rare even SEGA themselves lost the ROM.
@ruler_of_everything
@ruler_of_everything 3 жыл бұрын
@@codyryan9789 Either that, or an employee from the toy show took it home.
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if we may never find it.
@germanelkapo1
@germanelkapo1 3 жыл бұрын
@@glacierwolf2155 i mean, someone did find that Mc. Donalds game they used to train employees in japan (the tale of finding it is on youtube uploaded by... the one who found it) maybe there's hope.
@evdestroy5304
@evdestroy5304 3 жыл бұрын
@@germanelkapo1 Difference is there's only one cart in existence and it was used 31 or so years ago for a single toy show in Japan.
@pixelfoxshouse
@pixelfoxshouse 3 жыл бұрын
@@evdestroy5304 even worse, that toy show is probably gone.
@TheZeroNeonix
@TheZeroNeonix 3 жыл бұрын
Destroying the blocks doesn't give you points in this version. I'm guessing they noticed how players liked to destroy every single block rather than just destroy the ones necessary to move on, and they added points to reward them for that.
@Helicopter7
@Helicopter7 3 жыл бұрын
K
@G_Fantastic
@G_Fantastic 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@juhlyoh4938
@juhlyoh4938 3 жыл бұрын
Now, if it ever existed, we need the sonic cd proto with R2
@staceyroberts1251
@staceyroberts1251 3 жыл бұрын
R2 was made VERY early on so it would have to be a early prototype of CD Sonic The Hedgehog.
@staceyroberts1251
@staceyroberts1251 3 жыл бұрын
It was found in the files of Sonic CD PC
@arekrekas213
@arekrekas213 3 жыл бұрын
R2 seems to have been scrapped so early that it didn't even get made, sad!
@juhlyoh4938
@juhlyoh4938 3 жыл бұрын
@@arekrekas213 well one of the people who worked at the game said that every level was assigned to one person and that the person who worked on r2 "didn't do a good job" so it has scrapped (it's funny because you se several layout changes through the protos, but they simply chopped it without any stage changes)
@stuff31
@stuff31 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jingle2534
@jingle2534 3 жыл бұрын
like clock ork
@diskdem0n
@diskdem0n 3 жыл бұрын
no
@Gradient___
@Gradient___ 3 жыл бұрын
da
@sackydzNG
@sackydzNG 3 жыл бұрын
No it's Clock ork.
@Helicopter7
@Helicopter7 3 жыл бұрын
no
@halalcomrade34
@halalcomrade34 3 жыл бұрын
Clock fork
@Chickenkeeper
@Chickenkeeper 3 жыл бұрын
Oof, Sparkling Zone should have just been called Seizure Zone
@germanelkapo1
@germanelkapo1 3 жыл бұрын
That's Pulseman's Stage 3 (there's 3 different epileptic backgrounds, including glitch sky, casino circuit and definitely not "Las Vegas" with sonic 1 bumpers and other miscelaneous stuff flashing in the background). The good thing about emulators is that... you can disable colours, and i only tought about that use for this feature now, i feel like an idiot.
@isaacsussman5632
@isaacsussman5632 3 жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk 2077 Zone
@IAmCLG
@IAmCLG 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably no wonder why they toned it down. Welcome to Las Vegas Though last night I was playing it too. Final, of you time the start button right, you'd see a yellow section to the left. The beta is the same, it never changed
@violetthebat8810
@violetthebat8810 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacsussman5632 More like SegaPunk 1990. ;3
@isaacsussman5632
@isaacsussman5632 3 жыл бұрын
@@violetthebat8810 nice
@spacecadetkaito
@spacecadetkaito 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the UFOs in marble zone. Makes it more interesting
@juhlyoh4938
@juhlyoh4938 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason i see then as very out of place, idk, guess i just got used to final design marble zone
@spacecadetkaito
@spacecadetkaito 3 жыл бұрын
@@juhlyoh4938 I have the opposite feeling, now when i see the original marble zone it feels like it's missing something XD
@glitchedblood
@glitchedblood 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a build surface with the red UFOs.
@garfieldsmutenthusiast
@garfieldsmutenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
They're marbles
@Triangly
@Triangly 3 жыл бұрын
I hate Marble Zone here. I really do. (except for that big pillar in the beginning of act 2)
@imamtedsed
@imamtedsed 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I love your animations!
@onthedre
@onthedre 3 жыл бұрын
I hate marble period.
@Rishi.149
@Rishi.149 3 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s not like marble zone could be that liked ethier
@spicybreadproductions1972
@spicybreadproductions1972 3 жыл бұрын
How so? It's basically just Marble with some UFOs and an alternate path in Act 2 to me
@smd89xx
@smd89xx 3 жыл бұрын
-like it was enjoyable in the final-
@Mittens0407
@Mittens0407 3 жыл бұрын
11:20 Is that what the "cope" sign is for?
@Eichro
@Eichro 3 жыл бұрын
it's a prediction for 2020
@Genesisowusulover911
@Genesisowusulover911 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: it’s called clock ork zone because there was no art for a W yet
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 3 жыл бұрын
*CLOCK PORK*
@pixelfoxshouse
@pixelfoxshouse 3 жыл бұрын
probably everyone knows that.
@Genesisowusulover911
@Genesisowusulover911 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixelfoxshouse Not really :I This fact is pretty much only on the cutting room floor website. Good on you if you already knew this though.
@TheHappyGabeShow
@TheHappyGabeShow 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixelfoxshouse I didn't know that
@TheHappyGabeShow
@TheHappyGabeShow 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixelfoxshouse over a billion people don't know that
@orangehat1924
@orangehat1924 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about this prototype is the fact that the frames for Sonic's running animation are aligned, similar to the one in Sonic CD.
@COZMICETERNITY
@COZMICETERNITY 3 жыл бұрын
*2021 is already looking up!*
@javier10541
@javier10541 3 жыл бұрын
A massive contraption made of a single bumper from which surge out four rows of spiky balls that rotate around it Behind this torture device stands a single neon sign that reads "COPE"
@KalokesMysteries
@KalokesMysteries 3 жыл бұрын
The stage: "Deal with it."
@dashat3938
@dashat3938 3 жыл бұрын
new title: hog is old and we have proof of that
@numburger
@numburger 3 жыл бұрын
13:32 Ah, I see this is where Dimps got their inspiration for level design from
@kasterborous1701
@kasterborous1701 3 жыл бұрын
MOVE YOUR BLOODY MOUSE POINTER
@i_am_strix
@i_am_strix 3 жыл бұрын
When I first heard of Clock Work's name, I was eating breakfast and uh my brain misspelled it as Clock Yolk
@pixelfoxshouse
@pixelfoxshouse 3 жыл бұрын
fascinating.
@halalcomrade34
@halalcomrade34 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixelfoxshouse what
@nasii06
@nasii06 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@nasii06
@nasii06 3 жыл бұрын
probably been eating *EGGS*
@paulnovacek3715
@paulnovacek3715 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that the breakable blocks in Marble Zone don't give you points in this build
@Bleebtown
@Bleebtown 3 жыл бұрын
why do they give you points in the final game anyway
@vashietru1848
@vashietru1848 3 жыл бұрын
According to TheZeroNeonix, the devs noticed that players liked breaking all the blocks, so they gave points to reward that.
@paulnovacek3715
@paulnovacek3715 3 жыл бұрын
@@vashietru1848 that's just a guess though, not a fact
@MarioMamTess
@MarioMamTess 3 жыл бұрын
Clock Ork is my favorite zone! It's really pretty and super stable! I love Clock Ork Zone! ❤❤❤
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI 3 жыл бұрын
It's so wild knowing the game so well and then playing this and running into differences all over the place. It's like when I now play Sonic Mania and feel like an idiot--I can't tell if it's actually harder or if it's just because I haven't played it a million times yet!
@ChipChapChop
@ChipChapChop 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the checker ball coaching you to roll. People still don't think about it, even though it is literally the point of Sonic.
@cdscissor
@cdscissor 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to cover this! After seeing the full playthrough video, I knew someone's gonna do a commentated playthrough of it. 3:56 No this is old. As in prototype.
@LapperDev
@LapperDev 3 жыл бұрын
Whoops
@Neo_charmy
@Neo_charmy 3 жыл бұрын
Wait No "welcome to green hill" board?
@mikethe2238
@mikethe2238 3 жыл бұрын
that was before this
@LapperDev
@LapperDev 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's not THAT one, but still great stuff to see
@Neo_charmy
@Neo_charmy 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad... & Yep agree
@mikethe2238
@mikethe2238 3 жыл бұрын
@@LapperDev The one with the board was made in 1990, There wouldn't be a full sky and the base of the level.
@tondron
@tondron 3 жыл бұрын
We found this prototype, which is the one from nick arcade I think. The one you were talking about in marble zone is an earlier one with many level design changes.
@LapperDev
@LapperDev 3 жыл бұрын
That image is just a mockup
@tondron
@tondron 3 жыл бұрын
@@LapperDev Even if it is, I'd be cool to see if it's in an earlier build of the game.
@halalcomrade34
@halalcomrade34 3 жыл бұрын
@@tondron CES prototypes? I guess?
@TheRealityWarper08
@TheRealityWarper08 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like watching gameplay from an alternate reality, it's pretty cool!
@RustyLeguito
@RustyLeguito 3 жыл бұрын
The discovery of this beta is a miracle!
@hamsterman7895
@hamsterman7895 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey, welcome to the Sparkling Zone! F**k you!" -Lewis 2021
@stedmangg
@stedmangg 3 жыл бұрын
What a way to end 2020. I've fantasized about actually trying out this build since middle school, and I just got my high school diploma a few months ago. It's bittersweet to see how all of our lives have vastly changed over the past however many years, yet the magic and anticipation of a sonic 1 prototype never went away.
@Prawcin
@Prawcin 3 жыл бұрын
no points for breaking blocks :(
@djbuckaroo9258
@djbuckaroo9258 3 жыл бұрын
The cartridge this prototype was taken from is now for sale on eBay.
@maxistellazapata7108
@maxistellazapata7108 3 жыл бұрын
The flipping platforms Marble was a mockup. Since the concept for the Level itself has that like green hill of Tokyo toy show, it was Made to show how the game would look like at some point. But the lava was different in a build. Tho i think they said something about not getting the Tokyo toy show thing since it was lost forever or smth
@_Tzer
@_Tzer 3 жыл бұрын
THEY FOUND WHAT sonic community is good at finding betas now i want them to show me a banjo kazooie beta
@Astroni800
@Astroni800 2 жыл бұрын
2:02 - yeah, ALWAYS. Thank you for that playing! So many interesting obserwations!
@reckarthack3018
@reckarthack3018 3 жыл бұрын
Sparkling Zone was the inspiration for the entirety of Sonic CD
@DamageMaximo
@DamageMaximo 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic Boom's Sonic design is good.
@ReReCoil
@ReReCoil 3 жыл бұрын
5:40 That block is placed farther from the switch in the prototype compared to the final ver. Also invincibility frames practically dont even exist
@WitherSnow
@WitherSnow 3 жыл бұрын
Dude that Labyrinth cave BG is based as fuck! Please include it as an option in Sonic Studio.
@geothepoly
@geothepoly 3 жыл бұрын
The forbidden trinity of scrapped zones, we've got - Clock Ork Zone - Sparkling Zone -Marble Zone but slightly fun
@jess648
@jess648 3 жыл бұрын
Clock Ork and Sparkling Zone were earlier incarnations of Scrap Brain Zone and Spring Yard Zone
@switchnx
@switchnx 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how despite it being a prototype, the zones aren’t in the order seen in the debug menu.
@teaoftraffic
@teaoftraffic 3 жыл бұрын
12:38 do a flip!
@---oq5kb
@---oq5kb 3 жыл бұрын
You missed the unfinished path in marble zone (played it 2 days ago and I am sure that there's an unfinished path in either act 2 or 3) Marble zone with alternate paths What's next? Going fast in labyrinth zo- Of course it's next
@dinorasanchez70
@dinorasanchez70 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that he didn't do the spring hurts me so fucking much
@Sparkette
@Sparkette 3 жыл бұрын
This is a bumper. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. 11:13
@diegoborg6449
@diegoborg6449 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the man spittin out some Sonic Trivia the more he plays this
@Eer4000
@Eer4000 3 жыл бұрын
Woah! We really found this prototype. I love the internet man behind the scenes stuff like this is my favorite.
@AAAAAA-hv5qp
@AAAAAA-hv5qp 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see that old prototype, that has been lost. That thing is good too, and important to the video game history, but...
@MdSolehin
@MdSolehin 3 жыл бұрын
Sparkling zone looking a little more like casino zone right now!!!
@IAmExisting2.0
@IAmExisting2.0 Жыл бұрын
Those floaty things in marble zone are Sega Saturn logos 😄😆
@blackdot105
@blackdot105 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. It's interesting seeing how they changed the very first Sonic game. I think the screenshot colours were a little more interesting.
@MadameSomnambule
@MadameSomnambule 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the sphere was either a physics test or they couldn't quite get the mechanics of using it down properly so they decided to take it out later. Interestingly, there's a recording of the beta where Eggman's wrecking ball rotated. The balls flickering in this build seem to be an artifact of that, like they took out the animation and that was the result.
@SrPaisano
@SrPaisano 3 жыл бұрын
WE FINALLY DID IT
@shobbie_
@shobbie_ 3 жыл бұрын
So sonic was suposed to be a real platformer
@darkendgamin2339
@darkendgamin2339 3 жыл бұрын
Pog nice video dude. 👍
@guywatchingm3m3s
@guywatchingm3m3s 3 жыл бұрын
These UFOs from Marble Zone remind me of similar ones in Sonic 3 on what you could walk and float or fall
@sillydog
@sillydog 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, but we need to find the oldest prototype that was shown in Tokyo toy show, if you know what I mean.
@smd89xx
@smd89xx 3 жыл бұрын
We may have been waiting for longer than my life, but we finally found it!
@Pensive_Scarlet
@Pensive_Scarlet 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is that they took out the victory jump because thorough testing revealed it could be triggered at the wrong times in some situations. I'm curious, though, given the usual methods of programming a game back then, shouldn't it still be technically possible in the final game with a really simple code edit? It makes more sense that they just disabled it instead of actually removing it.
@donutking6805
@donutking6805 3 жыл бұрын
I thought those light sources were giant triangle crystals.
@zeusthefox1585
@zeusthefox1585 2 жыл бұрын
It kinda makes sense that ball would teach you to roll The lore Says Sonic taught himself how to control his abilites running around Green Hill zone. And like you said nothing really tells you to roll I remmeber my first time playing Sonic 1 (i had play very little sonic before hand.) it took me a minute to figure it out. But if that rock was there I'd probably would of figured it out sooner.
@MetalJuggalo
@MetalJuggalo 2 жыл бұрын
If you guys want more info on the early development of sonic the hedgehog and games like it, I'd highly recommend checking out the cutting room floor. They have a ton of early sound clips, sprites, and the like.
@jasminefrazier8624
@jasminefrazier8624 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Finally the beta is out
@Latoshajsinspiration
@Latoshajsinspiration 2 жыл бұрын
Clock Ork is my favorite zone
@tarkanertugrul7808
@tarkanertugrul7808 3 жыл бұрын
Lapped: 14:40 Where’s the ork? Me: It’s Clock Work! Not Clock Ork!
@LapperDev
@LapperDev 3 жыл бұрын
Can you not read?? (i know dw!)
@lunareko
@lunareko 2 жыл бұрын
Something that stuck out to me was that there's a period after the word "Act" in the labels that appear when a new act starts
@connoranastasio
@connoranastasio 3 жыл бұрын
Your hype of playing this matches my own, instant sub 👌
@doozdoozy1330
@doozdoozy1330 3 жыл бұрын
Hey hey Lapper, Next pixel art tutorial when ? Also thinking about making an discord server ?
@KendyStore
@KendyStore 3 жыл бұрын
omg yes
@LowPolyYT
@LowPolyYT 3 жыл бұрын
One step closer to that prototype with the egg badnik I can sleep happy
@pyxelbuh
@pyxelbuh 3 жыл бұрын
this is amazing, i cant believe it was found! lol what if you added the spinny ufo's or those yellow platforms or other stuff in sonic studio
@Pillow795
@Pillow795 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a new video and here it is
@littleguystar
@littleguystar 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 1 is an insane find!
@supermakermatic2111
@supermakermatic2111 3 жыл бұрын
Upon watching the footage the first thing I noticed was that Sonic builds up momentum insanely fast. I can’t imagine Marble or Labyrinth in this engine.
@supermakermatic2111
@supermakermatic2111 3 жыл бұрын
Now I’ve watched this it doesn’t seem as fast as the video I saw first (it was a video made specifically to highlight the faulty emulation in the Sega Smash Pack sooooo....) but still a little faster than Sonic actually is in the final games.
@halalcomrade34
@halalcomrade34 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the backround for sparkling zone (early spring yard zone) was reused for casino night zone in sonic 2
@Zecolarii
@Zecolarii 3 жыл бұрын
I love that added part at the end of MZ2. Why didn’t they keep that in the final? By the way, *cursor*
@scarletflare1928
@scarletflare1928 3 жыл бұрын
Good job hidden palace and tcrf
@Pinkerton221
@Pinkerton221 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the early marble zone with the platforms isn’t a mock-up but the second level of the tokyo toy show demo.
@Rainbow_Discord
@Rainbow_Discord 3 жыл бұрын
Will you be able to add special stages? If you can are we able to create the special stages? Are we able to change the ground design? Well we be able to have layers in the special stages? Are we able to make it so we can try it multiple times with restarting or exiting and reentering the level? These are questions for if you can make special stages in sonic studio by the way.
@wetwerd2003
@wetwerd2003 3 жыл бұрын
This was funny as hell. U got a sub👍🏾
@Hatty64
@Hatty64 3 жыл бұрын
Labyrinth zone without water is better in my opinion.
@5434345
@5434345 3 жыл бұрын
Those rolling balls should make it into Sonic Studio as they have lots of potential as puzzle element.
@RondoOfBloodX
@RondoOfBloodX 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how Layrinth WAS supposed to be the seond zone originally but it isn’t even in this PT. That tells me that the concept of that happening was dropped pretty early.
@СкибидиТуалеты
@СкибидиТуалеты 3 жыл бұрын
Sparkling Zone is very beautiful
@Thunder11110
@Thunder11110 3 жыл бұрын
oh cool! never think we actually get it!
@fishninja9413
@fishninja9413 3 жыл бұрын
Is that me, or the spaceships in Marable Zone look like Asteroid Wispon?
@TuxerTuxar
@TuxerTuxar 3 жыл бұрын
They're UFOs.
@legdig
@legdig 3 жыл бұрын
All thats left to find now is the tokyo toy show beta rom!
@charlie891
@charlie891 3 жыл бұрын
the lava did actually look like that screenshot once, cause there's a few leftover graphic tiles in the final game that show the borders of it
@LapperDev
@LapperDev 3 жыл бұрын
Hm Yeah I do think the art exists somewhwere of course but just the image in quesion, laid out how it is, is most likely not legit. Do you know where those graphics can be found?
@LapperDev
@LapperDev 3 жыл бұрын
Found more screenshots of that lava btw: twitter.com/LapperDev/status/1346058663958614017
@cst1229
@cst1229 3 жыл бұрын
Just checked, the troll spring is normal in the proto.
@aroohwahoou
@aroohwahoou 3 жыл бұрын
the white stripe on sonic's shoes disappears when he bounces up off a spring
@memespymemespy8748
@memespymemespy8748 3 жыл бұрын
clock ork zone looks like the original one that ended in the game,but eggman didn't started to make it work
@bmsoundtrack
@bmsoundtrack 3 жыл бұрын
13:12 Did I just catch you trying to spindash?
@NexosOriginal
@NexosOriginal 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like in Sonic Mania they use that Sonic jump in the end of level (1:47) to his celebration pose
@GrounderSez
@GrounderSez 3 жыл бұрын
I tried this on real hardware and it did not disappoint
@knightterror8489
@knightterror8489 3 жыл бұрын
interesting theory about the rolling ball
@amadeusfaiglevicari1372
@amadeusfaiglevicari1372 2 жыл бұрын
Those space-things are Space Marbles.
@imamtedsed
@imamtedsed 3 жыл бұрын
It's supposed to be Clock Work Zone
@kurichan355
@kurichan355 3 жыл бұрын
10:12 I swear I remember being able to do that in the 2013 remake...
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme 2 жыл бұрын
then just bake a cookie
@Shayzis
@Shayzis 3 жыл бұрын
Pokémon Sword and Shield's cursed cursor has invaded this video. Nice stuff! Very interesting finds. Sad Labyrinth Zone lost most of its uniqueness.
@RustyLeguito
@RustyLeguito 3 жыл бұрын
*CLOCK ORK*
@thealandude9146
@thealandude9146 3 жыл бұрын
6:53 you've done it... you made me stare at the cut off in the background
@Dan-379
@Dan-379 3 жыл бұрын
Saucers to hide hastily done BG it is...
@ArtsyPuppy
@ArtsyPuppy 3 жыл бұрын
ngl they probably removed the pillars you have to jump on multiple times to lower because that’s ultimately more tedious than just pushing a button it also kinda ruins whatever flow marble has, pretty bad gimmick imo
@tl1882
@tl1882 3 жыл бұрын
that snare doe
@pepsijuan666
@pepsijuan666 3 жыл бұрын
Slow Coaches, that sounds like a character of Thomas The Tank Engine & Friends
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