Sonic 2 CD Remix: Time Stones and Metal Knuckles

[@x-mighty7602]

after 26 years, someone remastered sonic 2 CD

[@jaypin88]

This looks too good dude, I look forward to trying this out. 👌

[@internet_user975]

Heyyy look jaypin!

[@internet_user975]

He plays my hacks =)

[@kemishareid6984]

How do yo7 get level select

[@ElReinoSagrado]

That Metal Knuckles looks really good!

[@TinchoBIT]

El Reino Sagrado really really good :D

[@mostrov6]

El Reino Sagrado I

[@alexanderoppong3520]

@@TinchoBIT àa11a

[@shnouk3814]

Dude! This is the most SOLID rom-hack ever!!!

[@hecatia666]

I loved that Future Emerald Hill!!

[@donaldtrumpunofficial5736]

Sir I suggest to insert more plants in the good future with a colorful palette and in the bad future destroyed ones.

[@TkCheisu7]

This project looks good and nice ideas with the time stones :)!

[@GustavoSouza-ft5rf]

The battle with metal sonic needs a epic music and omg this is amazing

[@tailsovich]

> That was close That was a bug. Pls fix that

[@riconuts]

i see no bug.

[@Pacca64]

Fixed. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I have a bad habit of ignoring minor issues like this :L Fun Fact: Fixing it also fixes a serious issue where Metal Sonic and Sonic can "tie" the race. Obviously, not a good scenario.

[@tailsovich]

pacguy64 Nice! Good luck with the project ^~^

[@Alicia-zp7qe]

The same exact bug is in CD tho. If you ask me it makes this more authentic.

[@TheSonicKOT]

pacguy64 Planing in hack metal TaiLs?

[@RicardoThePlayer]

This Time Stone twist is brilliant!! I loved it!

[@TeamDoodleBlocks]

Wow my favorite Sonic combined with my second favorite sonic game. Talk about a win win

[@Balibali418]

This is going really nice! I'm intrested in if there is going to a tails doll/metal tails for tails. Its nice to see people still make these intresting romhack, but im kinda sad that almost noone is making romhacks for Sonic 3 :(

[@adengriffith5376]

Will there be a download soon? I'm very interested in this project!

[@Pacca64]

Meme Trash I'm shooting to have a proper demo by the time the next shc comes around.

[@adengriffith5376]

pacguy64 oh awesome!

[@BlueSmash_404]

Yeeeeeee

[@teabag7829]

Pacca is it out

[@rodrigomessiasschineider4544]

Very good

[@Jazztache]

Make us get time stones in the past and chaos emeralds in the future/present or vice versa.

[@x-mighty7602]

after 26 yars, someone remastered sonic 2 CD (sonic 2 beta with time travel)

[@DJNeoncat]

I knew I recognized that Metal Knuckles Sprite somewhere.

[@federicogonzalez3514]

Ah Yes, My favorite Sonic game, "Sonic CD 2 & Knuckles".

[@JacobAllen918]

Please give this the same Debug Mode you gave Robotnik's Revenge! Also, you, my friend, just earned yourself a new subscriber! ;)

[@j_p_a_u_l_o7387]

EMERALD HILL FUTURE MUSIC IS...AWESOME!!!!!!!

[@nardbruh69]

Maybe you can do Tails Doll instead of Metal Sonic when you're playing as Tails

[@thepikachugamer]

Tails doll cant stop accelerating, anyway.

[@nardbruh69]

Naim Arnold but he's really slow

[@inkfire2236]

João-Gamer- Pt Tails Doll's speed in Sonic R doesn't really matter

[@j.c.2485]

NO!!!!

[@j.c.2485]

NO!!!!

[@x-mighty7602]

put metal tails too. patafoin has good sprites

[@Pacca64]

That might be doable, actually!

[@x-mighty7602]

thanks

[@Pacca64]

Hm... I can't find a sprite sheet for Metal Tails. I can't do it unless I have the sprites.

[@thepikachugamer]

true

[@ninetheluk]

Tails doll dont fix so much

[@games_on_phone89]

Sonic 2 CD do be lookin like a masterpiece so far doe

[@FlipeTheBased]

Imagine Metal Knuckles playable

[@eliasjeitk9457]

Damn this time stone concept ist brilliant

[@KrissieFox]

This looks awesome! Great work :)

[@CuteTails_Doll]

Now for me this is the Demo of Sonic 2, because this fangame says about the Demo of Sonic 2, saying what Sonic 2 Because it's about the Emeralds, or the Stones in case, then in the end there would be a battle where it would be in space, and that's really nice to see there.

[@Jaco4126]

hello! i think this project could do very well. keep up the good work!

[@myleschikuni5944]

Can you also make Metal Knuckles playable like Metal Sonic, but still retain gliding

[@Pacca64]

Implementing something like that wouldn't be too hard, actually. The only problem is that Metal Knuckles doesn't have a full sprite sheet, and I don't want to ask Aquaslash draw a full sprite sheet.

[@NativS2002]

pacguy64 There’s a mania style one , maybe use some animations from that

[@SuperZombieBros]

Now we just need the Tails Doll to race against Tails. Also the reason the the race seemed harder is because Knuckles is a little slower than Sonic.

[@thebottlewithoutalix2806]

This should be a collaborative effort between you, other hackers/coders, your friends, and the supporters. The supporters would be high-tier subscribers and low-tier friends/helpers.

[@themexican8720]

Love it. You should try replacing the Death Egg Robot music with Final Frenzy. Though that might be difficult due to the sound software.

[@luistailsprower3051]

I look forward to see Tails racing against Metal Tails.

[@HruMan360]

There are no Metal Tails, there's only Tails Doll (not the cursed one)

[@alexanderseitz5439]

@@HruMan360 you mean metal tails right

[@HruMan360]

@@alexanderseitz5439 Then why in Sonic R there are Metal Sonic and Metal Knuckles but not Metal Tails.

[@alexanderseitz5439]

@@HruMan360 tails dolls is called metal tails because it's called that in the files

[@internet_user975]

Hey you stole my buddy's nickname >=(

[@greenknight9000]

For Knuckles' peelout sprites, maybe use Mania's? P.S: Maybe instead of going Super, perhaps warp them instantly to a Special Stage?

[@Sonic-sn8xd]

Forget the shitty S2 special stages,Time Stones can instantly turn you into Super. Also,Pacca doesn't know how to import the Peel Out sprites from Mania.

[@ThatLinuxDude]

Man this mod is looking to be great

[@liamzitochan3906]

Can you put fluid sprites or sonic mania sprites for the peel out

[@Ai-fj1dc]

Liam lux 144 i doubt the Genesis can handle the smooth sprites

[@SkyanUltra]

The genesis is only able to handle so much, so stop asking for eye candy. It already looks and is very good with whats in it now.

[@moist_burger4481]

look at this rom hack info.sonicretro.org/Pana_Der_Hejhog

[@liamzitochan3906]

danky-master-420-69 i played that rom hack

[@moist_burger4481]

yeah that was pretty much saying that the genesis can handle fluid animations

[@giuspystardust8139]

2:23 wacky workbench?

[@Pacca64]

giusPeppe risaldi the music is placeholder atm. I couldn't make a decent remix on my own...

[@giuspystardust8139]

pacguy64 ah ok

[@kidgoku582]

I love sonic 2 And i LOOVE sonic cd This ia going to be the best hack rom of my life, congrats man

[@highlevelgamers7418]

Yeah!

[@xopowoHiro]

Can't wait for release.

[@nicholaslloyd5853]

Hey Hey Hey this is turning into an teal sonic CD Rom hack and just when will it be released

[@Pacca64]

Nicholas Lloyd not anytime soon, theres still a lot to do...

[@esn2618]

It's amusingly to see sprites what I've ripped from S Factor long time ago

[@kingcatzak]

This game actually looks really good

[@santinoxgames9062]

when you bring forth this new enhancement to the public for download

[@shellder_gaming]

Sonic 2 used to have time travel as a concept, but had to be removed for “Time constraints” 📳

[@TheVicarstownSentinel]

This looks like a fun mod!

[@dee-jayluig-jay5352]

This is kickass!! Is it possible to make the super theme a faster loop of the zone music though?

[@fidgety48]

When will you realease it?

[@churro1201]

pacguy64: You can 100% the game without seeing a good or bad future me: actually your forced to see a good or bad future because of act 3

[@Pacca64]

What I really meant to say was that you never had to travel there, and thus could play without seeing Act 1 or Act 2s' futures. I sort of truncated it to save space...

[@heheheiamasupahstarnatsuki3768]

Link me that fight music, both before the Stardust Speedway US music was added, and the Stardust Speedway US music itself.

[@darknessx2006]

The music of Emerald Hill Bad Future is wacky workbench?

[@Sonic-sn8xd]

It's a remix of Wacky Workbench from Sonic CD,used in the S2 hack Robotnik Returns 2. It's used in Retro Ruins Zone.

[@kasterborous1701]

The reason to go to the Good Future in Sonic CD is - it's usually easier, and there's no Badniks.

[@Fjadls254]

Looking great so far. Mind if I make some suggestions for the Bad Future Zones?

[@Pacca64]

Feel free.

[@Fjadls254]

Casino Night Zone - All the casino roulettes are now now rigged by Robotnik so that you'll lose rings every time you go in. Chemical Plant Zone - The chemical water makes drown 2x as fast. According to the western canon, Mega Mack can melt its victims in a matter of minutes. Marble Zone and Hill Top Zone - Lava drops come out of nowhere hurting Sonic every chance it gets in the underground sections. Labyrinth Zone - The ENTIRE Zone is flooded and no air bubbles to be found since Robotnik KNOWS well that Sonic himself hates water sections. You can make up for this unlimited air in the Good Future timezone. That's all I've got for now.

[@Bald_Fred]

Can you fix knuckles running in super and make him glide on the ground in super? It's just a sprite remake for super

[@x-mighty7602]

knuckles breathing on space!!! these are the sonic physics

[@lilianasilva9807]

Oi mighty

[@callmeninaiced]

May I make a suggestion? Add wood zone.

[@williamduncombe]

In Sonic CD, the boss(act 3) takes place in the good or bad future. To 100% the game, you will see the good/Bad future

[@SpiralPegasus]

This looks promising. However I must disagree on something: It's not true at all that you can complete the game without seeing any future stages. Act 3 of all rounds has no present nor past. I can agree that it's not _mandatory_ but it feels very satsfying to see the bright future you've helped create. Something I'd have loved Sonic CD to have is a "new game plus" that would allow you to play all past stages one after another, all good future stages one after another... same with the bad ones.

[@ayatsalah3806]

sc

[@kane_heath]

When will the beta of this be released its amazing

[@sonicthehedgehog507]

thx for played my game

[@SkyanUltra]

Hey, if you can, could you upload the songs used for this rom hack as a playlist? I love it so far!

[@mariomanx5897]

I really dont belive that deleting or putting aside the futures here is needed to be done.

[@Pacca64]

I never planned on doing that X3

[@SebGH]

That's amazing man!

[@YTChannelNat]

I'm liking what I see so far. This is really shaping up to be a pretty nice hack. Hey, I've actually been making pretty good progress on putting together a basic disassembly of Sonic CD myself. As such, I actually have the original code for things like the peelout, time warp posts, extended camera, sound effects, ect. Are there any objects, features or other resources from Sonic CD that you might want? I'd be happy to disassemble, extract and port anything you'd need. Feel free to let me know.

[@Pacca64]

I'd love to check out some of that myself. Any chance you can share what you have? You can PM me on SSRG if you don't want it to be public yet. As for individual things, I desperately need good ports of the sound effects; the ones I've found so far lacked any voices, so I couldn't use them :T A sample of the extended camera code would be great, too.

[@YTChannelNat]

pacguy64 Okay. I'll go ahead and convert the IDA database to an ASM file and send it to you later this evening. As for the extended camera specifically, I'd actually planned on writing up & posting a guide this weekend, seeing as Selbi no longer offers his "written-from-scratch" version of the camera because people kept stealing/leaking it. I'll send you a message once I post that too.

[@SkrillDude]

Very impressive!

[@calltwilightxxi6610]

This is awesome.

[@highlevelgamers7418]

Fact: if you go to the future (no matter if good or bad future) restart the game (because you cannot pause lose a life) and then you will get the time stone in about 5 seconds and you will reach the goal in 5 seconds! My trick… …😂😂😂hehe

[@carlosvirgilio7269]

Link to download?

[@Zernnt]

That's really fucking cool

[@alpacalemons3123]

i have an cool idea, what if you could only get time stones in the good future?

[@crosssans6133]

When this hack Will have the Full version?

[@naosei-ev7qx]

how do I go about selecting characters?

[@williammartinsyay]

Wow,i really need this

[@Samicom_YT]

Will there be Metal Tails?

[@RetrogamerNicollas]

And were is the link to download for my emulador Android????

[@approachscp173fortesting]

How To Download??????????

[@ShadowsBBG]

How do I get this it looks great

[@badwolf1913]

so when can try out...??

[@rice_storer]

Will you do Metal Tails?

[@toastermario8788]

Is Silver sonic still in the game?And do you plan to add more zones?Also this hack is loking amazing i think it would be a good idea to be able to choose between Cd and Sonic 2 Eggman sprites but that is just a suggestion

[@Pacca64]

Silver Sonic is definitely still in game; vanilla Death Egg Zone comes up right after the Metal Sonic fight, and I'm determined to leave it as is, just like in Sonic 2. That second suggestion is an interesting idea! I'm not sure if I can do it, though.

[@toastermario8788]

pacguy64 Okey Thanks I just wanted to know since i like that robot(mostly because it's the first metal Sonic i ever fought) Also i can make some Sonic 2 or Sonic 1/CD style knuckles sprites for the hack.

[@Pacca64]

I don't even know what Sonic 2 or Sonic 1 styled Knuckles sprites would look like... That's well out of my league, anyways, as I can't draw...

[@toastermario8788]

i made some sprites of him in the sonic 1 style also i can make the Eggman sprites

[@protonicnova]

It might be cool if there was a mode where you started in the Bad Future, had to find the Time Stone to time travel, and then could go through the Present and Past to make a Good Future. It'd probably make both creating a Good Future and collecting the Time Stone in the same zone a bit less tedious by making the progression more natural than starting in the Present and going back and forth Also, how is Sky Chase Zone going to work?

[@Pacca64]

That first idea is pretty interesting... It goes a little bit too far from the original Sonic CD formula, though, so I don't really want to implement it. As for Sky Chase Zone, currently it's set to always be in the present. Obviously time travel would be impossible there, anyways, and having separate time zones for it would be a waste of time and resources.

[@phauloriquelme2657]

2:18 Emerald Hill Zone Bad Future Music = Wacky Workbench Zone Present Music 2:32 Emerald Hill Zone Good Future Music = Wood Zone Music

[@darketolapis1386]

What a beautiful hack

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

I wonder. . .is there any way to mute the Super music?

[@Pacca64]

Not at the moment. If I feel like it, I might make it an option though.

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

pacguy64 You are my lord and savior

[@Toastyz27]

Will there be metal tails too? This is prior I check your channels videos

[@Pacca64]

I'm open to the idea, but I haven't found any good sprite sheets for Metal Tails.

[@rauldobra5051]

But how do you need to do to be in "good future?"

[@Jaco4126]

2:35 how will that work with tails?

[@Pacca64]

I'll probably just allow him to turn super like all the rest of the characters, like I did in Robotnik Returns 2.

[@thesupermonkey7983]

What tool did you use to make these mod

[@cyberooski]

Metal tails/tails doll for tails's boss fight with metal?

[@ChuckOver5]

Pokebro1423 i hope not tails doll im too scared at him

[@MarboTheMapo]

Hey, how to get the chaos emeralds? or is only the time stones?

[@dj-r0ca485]

I really like. It's very smart with what you did with the time zones. But turning super from time stones don't make sense

[@EpicTails]

is there a download? I want to try this out

[@ItzTheAndres]

How did you unlock the level selector? 😲😲😲😲😲😲

[@Pacca64]

I created the game, I can do anything in it. The last public demo is limited to the most completed and presentable zones.

[@thirdworldrenegade]

What's up with the Spin Dash animation? I know it's based off of CD, but still...

[@Pacca64]

Mohammed Islam All characters use the Sonic CD spindash by default, although you can change that in the options.

[@thirdworldrenegade]

pacguy64 Who in their right mind(s) would choose the CD Spin Dash animation? LOL!

[@GrandMasterGalvatron]

If you need any more Metal Knuckles animations, hit me up. I can easily make more :)

[@kirbysaas7256]

>Time Stone >Super when collected (good future) *SEEMS LEGIT* -also whats the point of special stages then-

[@burp3267]

Bro this looks amazing can I get the link

[@giovannidotgen]

I like what I'm seeing so far. Honestly though, I'd rather see Metal Sonic for everyone if there's going to be no other significant change to the race. Those are just my personal tastes, and if you prefer what you've done, then I'm fine with it.

[@Pacca64]

I was forced to swap out Metal Sonic; Knuckles colors made him look red and green, which looked super strange. I get where you're coming from, but it was a change that needed to be made.

[@matheusmcdouradinho4790]

You need to use the deleted levels from Sonic 2 in the game! Exemple: Dust Hill Rock Zone Wood Zone (Metropolis Past) Winter Zone (Dust Hill Past) Hidden Palace Genocide City/Cyber City

[@fasteasy9351]

Link For This Version?

[@-Lefty-Boi-]

There's a metal Sonic and Metal Knuckles and that means there is a metal tails

[@chucklingknuckles7198]

Do you need all the choas emeralds to win or could you get all the time stones?

[@Pacca64]

Chuckling Knuckles Chaos Emeralds and time stones are completely seperate. Also, the Time Stones don't work like in Sonic CD; you can't use them to force good futures.