Sonic CD Beta loops restored

Quartz Quadrant good, present and bad future, Palmtree Panic bad future, Tidal Tempest present, Stardust Speedway present, Metallic Madness present and bad future

[@thesoniccdproject]

You should remake the whole soundtrack, this sounds so good, especially stardust speedway present

[@Nic_2751]

I would die for that

[@fbi_weegee]

Hi AngelFox

[@deadchannel2210]

Having a much more high quality version of these make it easier to make midis of them. Thanks for this!

[@CollisionChaos]

OMG TRUE, it actually always bothered me that it seems like most people never understood the note sequence of the QQZ guitar lol I remember that i saw various midis and remixes of it and the note sequence is just wrong XD it bothered me because IMO the original sequence is really amazing. In fact, I think i will let it here for everyone who eventually read this comment lol the qqz good guitar sequence notes are: F4 A4 C5 E5 F4 A4 C5 F4 G4 B4 E5 F4 G4 B4 E4 G4 B4 D5 E4 G4 B4 E4 G4 A4 C5 E4 G4 A4

[@deadchannel2210]

@@CollisionChaos Yeah, most midis I downloaded have the wrong note sequence. It never really bothered me until I found one that REALLY messed it up lol. Thanks for the sequence notes!

[@deadchannel2210]

@@CollisionChaos Hey, do you know what tempo it is?

[@CollisionChaos]

@@deadchannel2210 I think on my restoration I used 115BPM, but I believe the original song have actually 115.360 BPM.

[@deadchannel2210]

@@CollisionChaos I've finished it with the info you gave me. It sounds great!

[@aaroncallahan1062]

I LOVE that high quality Tidal Tempest Present beta loop! And these are good!

[@notwelcome8952]

The beginning part was glorious

[@ThisGreenDingo]

YES WE NEED THESE MODDED INTO CD 2011 THIS IS AWESOME

[@blakey7892]

these are already in 2011 CD tho

[@brokenchair853]

@@blakey7892 They are however lower quality

[@k-leb4671]

0:04 Holy moly, that is freaking beautiful! Somebody should make a QQ G "restored" mix that includes that part.

[@shadic1988]

DAMN THIS IS SO GOOD

[@Nic_2751]

0:48

[@YgorG]

The quartz quadrant loop sounds awesome.

[@Winnerizzy]

I included the extra part you added for the QQ GF loop because it sounded so heavenly.

[@kekkyboi1243]

Bro tidal tempest has such a beautiful soundtrack

[@cgrfan1996]

Do you think it's possible to recreate Collision Chaos Good Future's loop? I'd love to hear a new interpretation of it!

[@CollisionChaos]

I really want to do that someday! I'm sorry I can't tell you when, but one day for sure!

[@Nic_2751]

@@CollisionChaos PLEASE DO IT!

[@GameBoy1404]

@@CollisionChaos Awesome! Not gonna pressure you to do it tho.

[@coolspot9560]

You are doing the God's work

[@someonecalledrichardthehuman]

Its worth noting that some tracks by themselves acording to these loops are very different, specifically Metallic Madness bad future

[@segafan1316]

Oh these sound great

[@krmiistudios2479]

Tidel tempest is my favorite Its so Soothing, atmospheric, Pleasent, mysterious, and also pretty relaxing, its as if this is what Sonic hears when hes underwater.

[@adre2194]

Oh I love what you did with Tidal Tempest

[@adre2194]

Ah, just realized it's from the Past theme. Clever!

[@retrogamer7543]

Amazing

[@knuckt.k.9456]

I want loops to be added back as a Sonic CD 2011 mod. Someone, please do it. It's not hard at all!

[@ItsCosmoTewulf]

Pretty sure they're already in the 2011 version.

[@BoredSquidward]

@@ItsCosmoTewulf Not all of then, and they're also in low quality.

[@ItsCosmoTewulf]

@@BoredSquidward Ah, I see. In that case, I second adding these loops into the 2011 version!

[@diarmikelly4060]

Ther in the base 2011 bit there different I think the sonic cd and knuckles mod has them.included

[@ViewpointProd]

if you have flac vers (or wav) available, i'd love to have them in my CD music collection

[@CollisionChaos]

Thank you! Here is: www.dropbox.com/s/xhqfzdun29lur5m/sonic%20cd%20loops.wav?dl=1

[@GamerGee]

@@CollisionChaos thank are these still up

[@whact]

0:23 at first i thought it said "pray to god"

[@pi_dev]

lol

[@AS42100]

May I please use your Palmtree Panic bad future one in one of my upcoming remixes? If so, I will credit you.

[@CollisionChaos]

Sure! If possible, show me your remix when it's done, I'd like to listen it.

[@AS42100]

@@CollisionChaos ok Thank you!

[@AS42100]

@@CollisionChaos It's done. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3-tgnuarb1kgtE

[@robotx9285]

Honestly wonder why these were cut, they're all great.

[@CollisionChaos]

It seems like they were meant to make the songs loop. In Sonic CD, the CDDA (CD audio) music don't loop, it fade out and then start again. These loops would make them loops with non stop, like happens in the Past music, as well like the games from before Sonic CD (Sonic 1, Sonic 2). The problem was: these loops were stored in lower quality inside the game, and the quality difference was too much perceptible, so they had to remove it, since it did not worked well. They tried to restore the idea on a newer release of Sonic CD (2011 i think) however they losted the high quality loops, and again the idea did not worked.

[@robotx9285]

@@CollisionChaos Wow, that bites. Just makes me think about how many games source code/ higher quality sources have been lost over the years.

[@dereksilva06]

What an amazing job!! what snare you Used in quartz Cuadrant present?

[@CollisionChaos]

I used a snare from best service gigapack, but i don't know the original source of it, I think gigapack is from 1994, I don't know exactly the original source of this snare.

[@Nic_2751]

Please use these in uploads to see how they mesh

[@DeevDaRabbit]

Do you have that beatbox sample used for Palmtree Panic Bad Future?

[@CollisionChaos]

Yeah, check my video "Sonic CD Sample Pack" there's a download link for it, and I included that sample ^^

[@Estaguy24]

Could you put the extended Quartz Quadrant good future loop alone on something ? I really love it

[@CollisionChaos]

Thank you! I can try doing that some day

[@fepaioe]

caramba, esse comecinho de Quartz Quadrant (Good Future) é pra fazer qualquer um chorar... pode fazer um remake da música completa?

[@CollisionChaos]

Algum dia eu gostaria de tentar! Obrigado pelo comentário :)

[@inaxdee]

Where did you get these from? I loved the Tidal Tempest (Present) one, makes me feel nostalgic.

[@CollisionChaos]

I tried to recreate the loops that can be found in some of the prototype versions of Sonic CD. I'm glad you liked :) thank you!

[@alinealessa4087]

👍

[@darman2429]

do you have the songs in wav or flac with the intros?

[@CollisionChaos]

No :/

[@lnvshxded8379]

0:41 sadly we dont have the second part of the sample

[@StickBlitzy]

Can’t believe people from little planet made a channel about the musics that they hear in little planet

[@CollisionChaos]

LOL XD it was a friend idea, because i love Sonic CD level art, and Collision Chaos is one of my favorite. So my friend had the idea of Collision Chaos + Jet Set Radio

[@RyanAlpha]

0:42 kinda sounds like the station melodies in japan if you know what i mean?

[@YgorG]

I liked it dude! But what is the the Kick & Snare used in palmtree panic bf?

[@CollisionChaos]

I think TR-909 but i don't know where they sampled it from, sorry

[@YgorG]

@@CollisionChaos Np dude, i sampled them back Using your "Ristar Cd" video, wich one of the musics heave this Tr909 sampled Kick at the start, and i sampled the Snare on the ppbf unused loop.

[@YgorG]

@@CollisionChaos Take a look: drive.google.com/file/d/18yuia8C9aBOImjrkGqREx7HmR6K_IxLD/view ( These are the drums i sampled. )

[@CollisionChaos]

@@YgorG It asks me for a acess request

[@YgorG]

@@CollisionChaos Ah, i Will allow. Sorry, sometimes It wants to heave file acsess request :/

[@ShoHidari]

Now do Metallic Madness US!

[@vittosphonecollection4134]

But why did they removed them? They're so good Edit: I already found out why

[@sonarbluewolf129]

What about wacky workbench

[@juhadexcelsior]

how did you remake these so close to the originals??? im assuming that some of the original samples have been discovered after all these years?

[@CollisionChaos]

Yeah, various Sonic CD sound sources were discovered! To be fair, various sounds in those restorations are actually wrong, i made them years ago, and now days we have more information. But the quartz quadrant guitar, for example, I tried recreating the nylon choir preset from Roland JD-800

[@juhadexcelsior]

@@CollisionChaos Now im really wondering how a remix would sound based off of that second Q. Quadrant. sounds so alien-like. you should remake the rest of the loops as best you can. this is killer honestly.

[@CollisionChaos]

@@juhadexcelsior thank you!

[@juhadexcelsior]

@@CollisionChaos I have a bit of a randome question, I can't think of anyone that would possibly know what i am talking about. In the Adventure duo games, there is a really bright and striking electronic piano that is probably best heard in Emerald Coast's theme. (starts playing at 0:15 of the actual song, the keyboard-ish "bawn" sound) would you happen to know the origin of it? I have been wondering for years and I really have no idea where to start looking. My best guess is that it originates from a yamaha synthesizer or something.

[@CollisionChaos]

@@juhadexcelsior i don't know what song you're talking about, i'm sorry :( but you can send a video link if you want with the song

[@cyan.6399]

wouldya happen to have a .wav download of these?

[@CollisionChaos]

www.dropbox.com/s/xhqfzdun29lur5m/sonic%20cd%20loops.wav?dl=1

[@Chevylaterr]

Can you conbine missing looping and the restored version of the music?

[@CollisionChaos]

I'm not sure if it would work all the time, sometimes there are BPM or instrument differences! I have a theory that maybe some of these loops are from previous version of the songs, or they had to be done after the music was concluded, not being really originally part of them

[@Chevylaterr]

@@CollisionChaos the restore version of the song use the same inturments to extend the song so it could not be that hard in this day and age with current music softwares

[@zulven_]

Do you know where is this "im out of this place" from quartz quadrant came from?

[@CollisionChaos]

I think someone pointed it was from a live performance of some rock band, not sure, check WhoSampled, i think it's there. On my restoration, i simply used a loop from polestar magnectics goldmine.

[@Karnage233]

it’s from a kiss live performance

[@BoredSquidward]

@@Karnage233 No, it's from Adrenaline, from N-Joi. It was sampled in X-static Goldmine CD 1, with some drums over it, then Masafumi Ogata sampled it.

[@Karnage233]

@@BoredSquidward but the vocal is from the kiss live performance from hotter than hell

[@BoredSquidward]

@@Karnage233 In QQ BF, you can notice that "This" has a "Ays" sound, and not an "is" sound, unlike the Kiss's Live. Judging by the tempo, The singer in N-Joi is saying "Forget this", and not what is said in the Hotter than Hell, "We gonna get this".

[@CosmixReflection]

why where the Loops removed in the sonic origins release i know its not in quartz quadrant good future

[@CollisionChaos]

I belive they don't have these loops anymore :( And the versions we have are from the prototype versions of Sonic CD, which are in lower quality, so they can't be used.

[@CosmixReflection]

@@CollisionChaos oh i see :(

[@MrTopHead78]

Can u tell me the bpm of the sonic cd songs

[@finn_4761]

*please god make a Stardust Speedway present without the lyrics..*

[@CollisionChaos]

I want one day to recreate fully the Stardust Speedway present, is one of my favorite songs!

[@finn_4761]

@@CollisionChaos Awesome! If you have trouble trying to isolate the vocals, maybe I can try doing them for you?

[@CollisionChaos]

@@finn_4761 I think that will not be necessary, I know some isolation techniques that works well! Thank you :D

[@Ghosty_Dosty]

Weren't they restored in the 2011 remake?

[@CollisionChaos]

No, they just ripped from the game in low quality

[@retrogamer7543]

Do you have mmgf?

[@CollisionChaos]

No :(

[@am.bisonmain9077]

Make a relic ruin

[@gonzagreen1221]

where I can find that snare sample? 0:24

[@CollisionChaos]

I don't know, sorry :( This is a TR-909 snare, aparently the same as collision chaos past with different filter/envelope. I'm still trying to find it. For this restoration I have used another TR-909 snare, in high quality, so I filtered and layered (i used the higher frequencies only, so it makes snare from the loop sounds in high quality)

[@theidiotnextdoor1502]

I don't mean to offend you but the Metallic Madness Present loop here happens to have the wrong notes in the second bar. The full section is: D3 E4 F4 C5 E5 F5 A5 G5 E4 F4 C5 E4 F4 G4 A4 F4 G#3 F3 D3 F3 D4 G#3 F3 D4 F4 G#4 D5 F5 G#5 D5 F5 G#5 Hope this helps..!

[@Warioland4forthegameboyadvance]

Mano faz a musica com essas loops mais da crédito pra sega

[@iggy_69420]

0:25

[@iggy_69420]

Tidal tempest has the best loop in my opinion