Sonic CD - Tidal Tempest "P Mix" (US) [Concept]

[@Ultrasun-fv5de]

This went in the direction I never would have considered for this level, and honestly, I think Spencer Neilsen would be proud. Definitely the most interesting Past remix you've done yet.

[@piggregious4986]

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[@shocktrauma85]

I love how the JP Past has a light kind of mystic feel to it. I love how this version has a darker but still mystical feeling to it.

[@velxen77]

Us is more dramatic and realistic feeling, or serius

[@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-]

Thats why the US soundtrack is superior , I always viewed Sonic as a dark , serious , dramatic , maybe little gothic , realistic just like the 1989 Batman movie .

[@shocktrauma85]

@@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- Not all the US Soundtrack is superior or even darker. One such example is Palmtree Panic Bad Future. The US Version is just, I don't know, utter trash in my opinion. It does not fit at all. The JP Version, on the other hand, is robotic and dark. It fits the atmosphere perfectly. I prefer the JP overall, but I really do think both soundtracks have their strengths and weaknesses. In Tidal Tempest, the US Bad Future perfectly fits the level, where the JP Version (though I like the music) would only fit the zone if it had no water.

[@dr.reggman]

@@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- well, speaking from my personal encounters with the hedgehog, that is certainly not true!

[@retrofan4963]

@@shocktrauma85 I argue that US Palmtree Panic Bad Future is darker. JP BF Palmtree Panic sounds more like a panic rather than dark. While the US BF Palmtree Panic has more emphasize of the feeling it's too late to fix it since the slow and dramatic tone made it sound like everything in Palmtree Panic is dead and there's nothing left alive around that area anymore. It makes it more dark and guilt,. JP BF Palmtree Panic doesn't have that.

[@m3t4l_sh1dd3r]

Jp: watch out for the air bubbles! Us: **there are secrets in this caves that you shouldnt know**

[@rafaelramondemorais2743]

Jp Past: A simple and calm ambient to a stoned aquatic cave Usa Past: A darkier and tense ambient to a stoned aquatic temple and for to save the future.

[@Just_Ants]

JP Present intro creeped me a bit, but the past was calming; however, this is actually a bit dark…

[@Soufriere84]

@@Just_Ants I feel like KMS leans a _bit_ too much on the Bad Future themes for his Past concept pieces -- the whole point of SCD's Past stages is they _aren't_ dark. I think if this had less going on in the background it would be perfect. Like with the JP soundtrack, less can be more. This one is still good though.

[@luckyqstar3873]

I prefer JPN more, it sounds more like an past.

[@robeez-l3o]

@@luckyqstar3873 Well duh, this one doesn't have limitations and compressed samples like the actual past tracks.

[@torterratortellini6641]

You are Stoned if you say “Darkier”.

[@odysseysfortune537]

Holy shit. I have no words. The second I clicked on this and heard that piano key, I knew it would be good. Really good. But I did NOT expect this. It gives off the feeling of Tidal Tempest being a gargantuan labyrinth, far more colossal than you could possibly comprehend, and that you are a microscopic speck in comparison. Really sells the “tempest” part of the name, and tbh I prefer it to the JP one. If I had to describe it in one word instead of a long-winded, melodramatic comment, it would simply be, “Epic.” Phenomenal job, as always.

[@dr.reggman]

Just for your information, Tempest is defined by google as "a violent windy storm." This means that the name of Tidal Tempest has next to nothing to do with the level.

[@gabrielhenry7237]

@@dr.reggman Is that so? Well the name Tidal Tempest ruined my understanding of the world Tempest cuz I always thought it was associated with calm things lol

[@odysseysfortune537]

@@dr.reggmanAh, fascinating. I thought “tempest” meant a great challenge to overcome, i. e. “We shall face this tempest that stands before us…” Thanks for clarifying!

[@DGCpicturesEntertainment]

Unlike the welcoming choir of the present, the past sounds like a twisted dark beginning to what the zone would later become almost like the zone itself is telling Sonic that he isn't supposed to be here, nor Robotnik. It gives chills that not even Ice Cap could give.

[@dr.reggman]

i'm not supposed to be there? ha, I already was!

[@JosephRobinsonSMBX]

I love how this incorporates the Bad Future more than the Present. I wouldn't have thought of that.

[@NeonBlueLight]

Well that’s cause he preferred the more atmospheric feel of the bad future than the groovy feel of the present. I think this song was to implement that motif while still keeping bits of the present intact.

[@lavenderfieldsz]

@@NeonBlueLight That's true. The US soundtrack feels more atmospheric than JP version, especially in the Bad Futures.

[@asmodeus58XX]

Tidal Tempest Bad Future US is one of the best Bad Future themes IMHO, and the best theme of Tidal Tempest. This remix removes most of the ominous elements from it (mostly the backing vocals that sound like they're drowning) and made it mysterious, as if you're the first person to stumble upon this water filled cavern.

[@robeez-l3o]

Funny, Tidal Tempest was JP's best try at making something atmospheric, and yet US still wins. I like both honestly.

[@SpiralPegasus]

Thankfully. Tidal Tempest bad future is the only time where the US OST surpasses the JP one. It's also the best track in the American one, and basing the past theme on it led to it being fantastic.

[@techlover1664]

Great work, KingMeteorStudios. This feels like Spencer Nilsen composed the track to me.

[@90sNath]

I agree. King meteor, you have done really good on all these songs. These songs are what have finally made this soundtrack complete. To make sure I dont have a hard time finding them, I even made a KZbin playlist with your past tracks in there. Awesome job on these past songs. I wanna ask you something though, I was thinking on making a mod for the Sonic CD 2011 PC Game that replaces the past themes for your music in it and uploading it on the gamebanana(I think that's what its called) website and on steam but wanted to make sure you were ok with it. And yes I'll credit you even if it's not required. I wont post it until i get confirmation. If you say no that's fine.

[@awakndzer6913]

@@90sNath gamebanana.com/sounds/45317 I made a mod for this a long time ago when he finished the entire past set of songs.

[@90sNath]

@@awakndzer6913 wait a minute.... i just remembered this was a year ago. Holy crap! also yeah someone eventually did

[@thesonichat7389]

I love how you nail the over-atmospheric-ness of the US soundtrack as a whole, it really fits like a glove.

[@Inferredpolus]

I grew up with gems so I grew up knowing the us ost So it is THE cd ost, imo.

[@billbeeson5803]

@Inferredpolus yeah apart from the fact that the Japanese ost is objectively better and was composed before

[@GayKermit-._-.]

@@billbeeson5803 quit meat riding bro. Both are equally good. 🗿

[@sonicthehedgehog23145]

@@billbeeson5803 neither are objectively better than one another, let people have opinions bro

[@noahcrook2474]

Nice blend of all of the other tracks into a past style. It sounds like the present’s vocals up front, but in the background you can hear the opening of the bad future, but in a more mystical way rather than dystopian.

[@Fcfun5]

This is so good It sounds so haunting and ominous It really does feel like the past of this level, a mysterious half-underwater temple… it’s like so similar to the bad future thing… in the bad future the whole place is just destroyed and the music is like a dark mourning of it or something… the good future- the whole place has been transformed… it’s not really some sacred temple like it used to be… it might be better but it’s definitely not the same… that’s why it sounds so different in the good future

[@_derekh134]

I’m a simple person. Whenever I see a KM video, I listen for hours to no end. 🎧

[@sassymetalsonic5870]

I was about to berate you for using an old meme, but then I noticed that your comment was posted 3 years ago.

[@Taha_A]

@@sassymetalsonic5870 you used a past sign just like i did?

[@sonicthehedgehog23145]

This sounds PERFECT! I can't even put it into words how well this fits with the US soundtrack. It just also sounds like there's no turning back. Once sonic is here in his journey, even if he's gotten the Bad Future, he cannot go back to save the other zones.

[@dr.reggman]

why r u here i'm turning flickies into robots right now

[@tankgod8833]

My favorite one yet! Tidal Tempest Present (US) is my favorite song in the entire soundtrack, and the Good Future isn't far behind it

[@Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial]

I love this-it sounds kind-of like Sonic 3D Blast’s Rusty Ruins on the Sega Saturn; only more chill, melancholic & slow.

[@dr.reggman]

wayyyyy better and that's a big compliment from someone previously thinking sonic 3d blast saturn releases's was the best soundtrack in the sonic franchise until i stumbled upon the US soundtrack of cd, one of my already favorite games of all time

[@Bored_Overthinker]

This is so much more beautiful than the actual past music in the game! :D

[@mrsrecns]

P:sonic dashes through the nice and cold cavern, The water is crystal clear and cold, The bricks of the temple are a nice blue, Robotniks machinery hasn't reached the start for a while

[@oddballExtraordinaire]

Now this sounds like if Sonic went into a legendary crystal cavern that's stuck deep inside an underwater city. In other words, this just screams mysticality in our ears. I had some doubts before clicking on this, but now I regret it as this is one of the most beautiful songs you composed! Fantastic job, King!

[@Hesh_NC]

Im sorry to say this but this song was the final thing my Grandma Heard before ahe died May we one day see each other in Heaven Grandma ❤

[@FandeZetassj2014]

Fuerzas bro tranquilo mi abuela también se me murió hace pocos días 😢 Sigue adelante tu abuela siempre te verá en el cielo❤

[@TheREALAllizone]

That's fucking cap

[@justinmorgan5975]

Sounds VERRY prehistoric and atmospheric

[@El_Causa_71]

THATS MY FAVORITE SONG EVER!!! THANK YOU!

[@raphaelhennebois4844]

As a long time Sonic fan, I always loved the projects fans have been working on - games, artworks, OST... I always prefered music, since it inspires me for writing, so you quickly became my number one composer on YT. I often listen to the Sonic playlists you uploaded, when I work, when I create, when I bathe... One day, I discovered this track. And WHAT THE FUCK, it sounds so good. I feel like I'm witnessing an alternate dimension, where Sonic CD has been a huge hit, and got a sequel on SEGA Saturn (Sonic Saturn ?). This track gives me 32-bit vibes, as if Sonic 3D had been made in real 3D, as if Sonic X-treme had been a absolute banger... The Sonic fanbase has always achieved to bring people to alternate timelines. And you, sir, with this masterpiece, are one of the best.

[@reneethefox4797]

Really love these. All of your US Past songs are so beautiful and fitting. My only criticism is that I feel it would more consistent if the songs fit with Sega CD technical limitations (more compressed samples, only 7 instruments at a time.) Other than that, very amazing.

[@kaceejones2282]

I like that this past US remix has a bit of darkness to it compared to the JP

[@r12fre0n]

If we could somehow hack Sonic CD to read the past tracks from CDDA instead of sample sequences, and fit the tracks within 700MB (I believe the original game is only about 550MB) then it'd be really feasible and awesome to implement these in-game.

[@FiniteZeroStudios]

If you have the 96 version of Sonic CD on PC, you can use Sega PC Reloaded and bass.dll and after a bit of setup with MP3 files you can indeed play Sonic CD with this music. It's amazing.

[@shalpp]

It is alrwsdy possible to hack the sequence data to create your own tunes with the existing samples. I feel replacing the sample banks would take a ton of work but could be possible

[@jeffpenus9201]

@@FiniteZeroStudios Um, actually, you can just use the decompiled mobile version (Which is technically the best one out there, even better than the Steam version since it runs at a better res) and mod it lmao

[@Soufriere84]

@@jeffpenus9201 The mobile version _of course_ is the best considering who programmed it. Definitive but sadly hasn't been ported elsewhere. Not at all surprised someone decompiled it, this _is_ the Sonic fanbase. Unfortunately, I am far too old and stupid to do anything you just said.

[@dr.reggman]

@@shade221 well that sucks anyways i'm gonna play my copy of sonic cd us while playing this playthrough whenever I go into the past and muting the actual game

[@rofidel178]

it feels like i'm going underwater, there's also a lot of tension and danger in it, it's so atmospheric i love how it feels!

[@IvyANguyen]

Very beautiful! Very faithful to the mood & the slowness the water level plays.

[@dr.reggman]

Feels like the theme of eternity, don’t know any other way to describe it

[@SyntaxTsundere]

You want to change the future, but can the future truly be changed?

[@krimzonnebula9341]

I love how just “past” these tracks feel.

[@Metalwario64]

I absolutely love how ethereal this sounds. It almost sounds like something from Chrono Trigger or Metroid.

[@shocktrauma85]

I gotta say that even this having a darker mystic feeling to it, it's surprisingly relaxing.

[@MoonlightStrider]

This honestly sounds like a track from Ecco the Dolphin, like Sonic just ends up fighting the Vortex Queen with the help of Asterite

[@lavenderfieldsz]

Track 05, right? I have the same feeling, and both soundtracks were made by Spencer Nilsen (Sonic CD US and Ecco from Sega CD)

[@therollingcreeper1]

Sonic in welcome to the machine

[@jpc-273]

Imagine if they did a remake of Sonic CD and that it had both the soundtracks arranged from the Japanese/European versions as well as the American version respectively, as well as the original soundtracks from the Japanese/European versions as well as the American version respectively. And in the case of the soundtrack arranged from the American version, it has its own themes from the past for each level that did not have the original soundtrack.

[@Soufriere84]

They literally DID have that. The mobile port (except for its platform, undeniably the definitive edition) let you choose which soundtrack you wanted, but of course the Past music is the same in both, so it would be cool to get an official release of SCD that adds in these or similarly arranged US-style Past themes.

[@drioslegacy]

Sonic CD is probably my second or third favorite game ever, next to Ocarina of Time and Symphony of the Night. Your videos are awesome bro

[@stats9300]

i love how calming all of the past (US) mixes are. it gives the vibe that there is not immediate danger since its the past.

[@goiabexp]

This makes me think of those "Coming Soon" menus on the old Disney DVDs

[@Soufriere84]

This is an excellent imagining of a US Tidal Tempest Past. Simple instrumentation (like the JP original) but with the atmospheric feel of the US T.T. themes. Probably not exactly how Spencer Nilsen would have arranged it, but definitely complements his stuff. Nice work.

[@matimate8172]

when the piano kicked in i was scared for my life for i was afraid certain skeleton would barge into my door

[@rassilontdavros3004]

This is turning into one of your best mini-series yet!

[@90sNath]

King meteor, you have done really good on all these songs. These songs are what have finally made this soundtrack complete. To make sure I dont have a hard time finding them, I even made a KZbin playlist with your past tracks in there. Awesome job on these past songs. I wanna ask you something though, I was thinking on making a mod for the Sonic CD 2011 PC Game that replaces the past themes for your music in it and uploading it on the gamebanana(I think that's what its called) website and on steam but wanted to make sure you were ok with it. And yes I'll credit you even if it's not required. I wont post it until i get confirmation. If you say no that's fine.

[@jonathanfellers6073]

Been loving these sonic cd remixes from the begining, keep up the good work!

[@sonic2isbetterthan3]

despite being a sonic fan for so long ive NEVER heard this, it sounds like some sort of zelda temple or something

[@gabrielhenry7237]

What I love about these past themes is how it made me appreciate the US themes even more

[@robertlupa8273]

Fits the background of the level perfectly.

[@contrivedresident5917]

This is mesmerizing and a powerful imagining of what a past US track could have been. Amazing.

[@WalkerSunriseChannel]

Somehow, this makes me think of Theory of Evolution. Not because it sounds like any particular music in that game, but because of the feel of it. A mystery on a primordial world...

[@maxbradley6340]

I love it, this fits Tidal Tempest's past perfectly.

[@LRabbit71421]

This is the PERFECT atmospheric song

[@WackyPlayer372]

This is soul touching man...

[@CD-zj5tc]

Present: Tidal Tempest Past: Hidden Labyrinth Bad Future: Oil Ruins Good Future: Crystalic Shire

[@bubbles46853-ep9if]

Nice names.

[@CD-zj5tc]

@@bubbles46853-ep9if Oh, thanks!

[@EthanProductions.EarthxVenus]

I like how the rhyme is bad future but Abandoned

[@Comrade_Blaze]

This is actually a beautiful song and fits the past so perfectly for tidal tempest’s US Track!

[@Soinc.]

0:47 Is it just me or is it that I hear the JP version as well?

[@km_studios]

That wasn't my intention, but now that you mention it, I totally hear it

[@shadic1988]

I think it’s the beat from the bongos used in Past.

[@jaajserver7585]

Ouais cette partie la fait partie de la musique JP

[@harleygoryl181]

You mean the original version?

[@deticeku7881]

The song is so beautiful

[@Sol_Z]

Nice first and this sounds kinda like the jp one just relaxing keep up the good work

[@MechaKnuckles]

Awesome job as usual!

[@AlinaAniretake]

Question: Can one day you make a video, where you breakdown each of your past remixes? Would've loved to see that

[@km_studios]

Break them down how? In any case, I'm using different software to make my music than I was when I made these, and I've since gotten a new computer, so I don't have the original project files anymore

[@AlinaAniretake]

@@km_studios fock, that's sad(( Also, I meant breaking them down as in "which elements you used from each version to evoke a specific feeling, while also kind of explaining why, did you thought those songs had that specific feeling") Kind of like that youtuber named Alex does with Sonic CD songs) Kind of wanted to hear a takes from a remixers head) Btw, while we're at it - which software (or to be specific VSTs/Soundfonts) you used to make those past remixes? Just wanted to try meself to make song in this style)

[@km_studios]

@@AlinaAniretake I think I mostly used the SGM and Arachno Soundfonts. (I don't remember exactly what soundfonts I used for each instrument)

[@AlinaAniretake]

@@km_studios Gracias)

[@ScrewStache]

Its good!

[@Enriquito445]

I like how tidal tempest is recorded from a tv, it feels nostalgic

[@SonicWasTaken]

This is gorgeous

[@Kamiliusz478]

1:04 that part sounds kinda like upper brinstar theme from Super Metroid

[@BradyToons]

Wow. Well done, this is amazing.

[@Raffo2007]

I hear Crash Bandicoot's marimba.

[@Danuha-sb5eu]

It's actually sounds even better than JAP version. More atmospheric, good job !

[@kaceejones2282]

All past and present themes should have some enthusiastic motif but at the same time they should be giving off a sense of a bit of dread and more of fear warning caution and the entire premise of the themes already sounding like it's becoming a dystopia. That's what the US nails at better than JP. Cuz themes like Collision Chaos Metallic Madness and Stardust Speedway kinda thosere the themes that gives u warning of if u dont destroy the badnik generator and MS Hologram something horrifying is going to happen.

[@kaceejones2282]

Wacky Workbench past gives the sense that u need to quicy save this zone from destruction.

[@davidstardusst]

this song always makes me calm

[@PineconiumOfficial]

This feels like something out of Tetris CDI for me

[@Saxdude26]

It is wild to me how foreboding this past theme interpretation in. Given the nature of the US soundtrack, it fits perfectly, but it's almost a shock how it feels just as sinister as the Bad Future. And I kinda love that, it has that same ancient temple vibe of a lot of 90s Amiga games like Shadow of the Beast, Fire & Ice and GODS.

[@BlackSonic1991]

This is really good bro

[@sniper_tastic_2]

1:58 rip bro

[@craftmywarpstar8863]

If I ever find a way to mod this on my copy of Sonic CD 2011, I will give you a metal for all these wonderful remixes!

[@gabrielhenry7237]

Someone made mods already

[@ophiuchus1766]

Masterpiece!

[@Sho_Minazuki]

aesthetic and prehistoric

[@jswayne7546]

This is the best past concept. Quartz Quadrant is a close second.

[@supreme-ss777]

JP Past Music: The vibe is awkwardly calm and cheery as if to say everything is alright. US Past Music: The weight of the world is indeed upon you. Go defeat Robotnik.

[@_derekh134]

Third times the charm. 🍀🍀🍀 Acoustic Grand Piano (hit those low notes yo) (1 echo) Bongos FX 1 (Rain)/Synth Rain (both are the same sound set) Agogos (?) Melted Choir (2 echos) Synth Bass 2/Hammer Bass (Is there any bass? That must be a quiet bass.) Does that piano reach down to A0? I’m impressed!

[@km_studios]

Bright Acoustic Piano (no echo, but the sample has a lot of reverb) Synth Strings 2 (bass layer) New Age Pad Choir (technically the patch is called "Saint Choir Aahs") (no echo) Marimba (1 echo) Bright Acoustic Piano (lead) + Atmosphere FX Synth Bass 2 (very subtly playing the bass of the Bad Future) Percussion (bongos, cuica, kick) Tambourine (the low, metallic, breathy sound ... aka the GoldenEye sound) No, the piano doesn't go down to A0. The lowest note is C2 (the lowest C on a standard piano)

[@cryimgyoshi334]

Dude what genre of music would this be described as? It's amazing and I need more.

[@نوار2024]

Now this is how you make a real past ost!

[@yogdiscool6403]

These past music ones are calmer and they give comebacks to present and bad futures

[@Chillius]

This is great, but my only problem is that despite how strong this sounds; it still has a bit of weakness to it, still very nice though :)

[@ChilliusVGM]

(same guy just on a different account) I think that the song sounds way too "samey" the whole way through and a the piano is a bit quiet + isn't really the most fitting instrument; but this still sounds great :)

[@RandomFella745]

I love this so much, was expecting it to match the present but I like how it matches the bad future

[@GmNdWtchr96]

I like the reference to the official Present medley.

[@EpicGamer_SansheeFreddy]

Past: The zone is a underwater temple, not being full of Badniks, making it a more relaxing zone with Tidals and Tempests in it, but Mr. Needlemouse must stay focused and go to Quartz Quadrant zone before he drowns.

[@Taha_A]

Buddy, i think you commented this in the wrong universe. I will give you the hint. In this universe, the being you call Needlemouse is the being we call Sonic. Much more fitting name, don’t you think? Anyway, the first sonic game (Needlemouse game for you) was released in 1991 which is later than the release in your universe. Another difference is that Sonic (Needlemouse) is 15 and has always been 15.

[@Taha_A]

@@dr.reggman hey doctor eggman! Just giving you a heads up, i think the way to defeat sonic is by experimenting with the chaos emeralds again and trying to get zapped with the positive energy of the chaos emeralds. It will undo what happened with the negative energy and make you powerful like sonic

[@Taha_A]

@@dr.reggman it will also reverse the curse that the negative chaos energy did on you

[@Taha_A]

@@dr.reggman that’s alright, enjoy your newfound knowledge

[@EpicGamer_SansheeFreddy]

I know he’s called Sonic.

[@solekman916]

THIS IS JUST WHAT I WANTED

[@T.S.2103]

Wow, nice

[@solekman916]

Can't wait for collision chaos!

[@M4N14C4L]

Feels Nostalgic

[@Picsasworld]

TIDAL TEMPEST BAD FUTURE (usa) also which one came first? HyperSonic's remix or KingMeteorStudio's Remix?

[@sassymetalsonic5870]

HyperSonic's video is just this remix extended, you numpty.

[@franklinclinton2560]

Tidal Tempest ACT 2 Past

[@jonsterthe1st355]

Good! Great! Awesome! Amazing! Outstanding!!!

[@km_studios]

Outstanding comes before amazing 😜

[@jonsterthe1st355]

Ooopsie whoopsy!

[@charliehasbun891]

Reminds me of that thing that someone would say in Sonic Colors when you pressed A a bunch of times in the air

[@scarfaceAC2]

God damn. Just... wow.

[@arzfan29]

These feel too high quality to be past mixes, the past mixes used the 16 bit sega cd soundchip

[@risalilqueen]

this is my favorite one yet

[@jadendrummond7674]

Why is the quality in this video like this?

[@JoKing16]

I wish this was reall

[@skojebus7874]

Nice you uploaded a vid so soon

[@paulorbuenods]

Man this song is PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!

[@Zuerinalong]

I like this song

[@brannycedeno6823]

I'm not a fan of Sonic CD's US soundtrack, but boy, this one is perfect. I thought the best one was Palmtree Panic, but then I listened to this today.

[@PinkSupreme2012]

Neptune…

[@megspitzer9406]

This fits perfectly!