Sonic Fan Games Inspired This Video

[@SlushTV]

Can't believe watching Sonic fan game videos at 3am every night led to this Join My Discord discord.gg/st6YfP2 Follow My Twitter twitter.com/SlushTV_

[@Zetraxes]

You forgot core games (it's like dreams or roblox but on the unreal engine)

[@Cybershell13]

It's a proven fact that Sonic fans are the most powerful people on earth.

[@SlushTV]

Unlike those weak and helpless Dilbert fans, who have never once even attempted to make a fan game

[@comradezach]

@@SlushTV that's what they want you to think, but I know more than you

[@BlueJack222]

He has a point while Sonic fans are divided amongst themselves but when they come together as one something magical happens I mean that's how we got the movie design change

[@thomasedwardharrison2879]

Yes!

[@Snooplax]

This was such a great video with so many amazing points. Also the production quality was amazing! Thanks for the shout out at 6:33 also!

[@SlushTV]

Thanks dude! Watching you play fan mods helped inspire this video so it's cool that you came to find it.

[@baggelissonic]

The complete omission of Minecraft seems a little unfair. Minecraft Hunger games and Minecraft UHC, were battle royale mode in every sense of the way. Many players being dropped in a single map to gather resources (Check), perma-death (Check), A border that gets smaller and smaller (Check), melee and long-range pvp (Check), ability to play solo or in squads (Check). These are fan-made games within minecraft, they fit perfectly with this video.

[@TheKinoCorner]

The truth is that Slush actually does like eating paper

[@SlushTV]

My secret shame!

[@MasterEth]

This is why I love indie games...the creativity and passion will never die with indie games

[@dalexlive]

Amazing production value and quality as always man!

[@coldsignon8074]

Summary, we need a new-newgrounds. Some new, accessible engines and a hub for it all. A platform for fan game design. It will be filled with shit, but in and among those turds, there will be gold.

[@eMorphized]

Lutris and Godot. Also Roblox. And Unity. And anything that works with Lutris.

[@tcmr5775]

Damn, I got to sleep in, wife woke me up for brunch, and now there's a new Slush video? 2020 worth it

[@turndownforwalt]

Really enjoyed this. Great video Slush!

[@austinh6802]

I found your videos through a twitter post you made and my god you need so many more subscribers, your content is so high quality and well produced and I am loving every minute of going back through your catalogue of videos!

[@bobbymorelli9763]

br started in minecraft as survival games

[@Pupppeteer]

Fan games are amazing and the sonic community have taken it to an insane level. I'm also a huge fan of them and it's great to see some fan games get taken on by the official developers.

[@Marck250491]

Great work as always, even when it took you time to upload a new video. You point to the key of everything, audience/fans

[@CarlolucaS]

I get tired of mentioning this but big corporations are anti-innovation. You mentioned it in the video but big corp is anti-risk and therefore everything that is not proven to make money will be discarded. One thing that I would like to add is that big corp is also pro-monopoly because that way you can squeeze the maximum amount of money out of an IP and blocking fan-made projects is a consequence of that. Btw this goes for every industry. This is not specific to the games industry.

[@eMorphized]

That is, until some new player enters the vacuum.

[@hectortheinspector6838]

6:43 is that background music from Ribbit King?

[@SlushTV]

It is indeed

[@hectortheinspector6838]

@@SlushTV Nice! Such an underrated gem, everyone I introduce it to absolutely loves it. Definitely needs more exposure.

[@flame85246]

Couldn’t the problem itself be the need for monetization? This cycle, at a glance, seems to happen because people need to make excessive amounts of money to develop their game which leads to less risk taking because people need money. If this video exists to ask big questions, why are we not asking the biggest ones?

[@SlushTV]

Well you can't just take monetization entirely out of the equation either. If nobody gets paid then they won't make games. Passion is great but people have bills to pay. I'd rather see a KZbin equivalent for video games that lets independents monetize their creations with ease.

[@DotSlashFrag]

Your video's quality is always a 10/10. Keep em up my dude!

[@Pupppeteer]

1:04 he literally would rather eat a cardboard box than play unoriginal games. Same!

[@muhammadazisalfaridzianwar3247]

Beside mobas and battle royale genre of games. There is 1 genre of games that based on fan games that made from dota 2 mods, it called autochess games. It is not as popular as the other, but it make new games that still played until now. Such as Team fight Tactic, and hearthstone battleground.

[@Alystairre]

I accidentally tapped the notification as it popped up, but new slush video is hype

[@oblivionviix9896]

Creating a game only makes sense if it makes cents - Gaming Companies

[@Waligug]

Can you remember a big successful game launch in the past 5 years without some controversy because I can't and that's really sad.

[@bananawaver]

Fantastic vid dude

[@FirstComments]

Basically, we just need more games that allows modding.

[@kellen987]

I would play the fuck out of a fan game hub. Someone please make that

[@frogerzard6606]

Technical brought me here

[@SlushTV]

Fuck yeah!

[@dazenmonk597]

This was such a great vid 👍

[@jaytakajeremiahtisdale2042]

How does this video only have 2.4K views.......

[@10TabsOpened]

Great Video Slush👍🏼

[@dippykumar]

Gaming industry is interesting for neiche titles, like subliminal, an amazing game.

[@blackh4ze778]

yo Slush, I'm only half way through the video but still good fucking video man keep it up!

[@HyperGlameow]

The Sonic fan game rabbit hole goes deep

[@eMorphized]

Not that deep. Just until ~'96 or so.

[@Blessedup69]

_yep_

[@Tholen3]

does Steam, its community, and workshop not exist?

[@invalidssb]

Gotta love it

[@SilverShadow721]

Great video, Slush! I particularly liked your insight about Flash gaming, and how we really lost something when it went away. Also, I'm glad to see you're making some shorter vids. Hope to see some more frequent uploads from you. Cheers!

[@ghostsinthesnow_makes_music]

you should've brought up gary's mod! gary's mod trouble in terrorist town sort of led to among us if you think about it. plus i miss theater servers

[@darkmage07070777]

While I like some of the analysis and insights, I have to disagree with the overall conclusion presented. I do not, in fact, believe that the solution is to adopt KZbin's model. In fact, is argue that it would have the opposite effect desired. Sure, at first it unlocked creative freedom, but it also centralized videos to the point that blocking out "undesirable" content is easy. There's also now less chance of your product being noticed of you're brand new sure to ask the competition squeezed into one space. This has ended up stifling creativity rather then promoting it as people have to conform to the formula and play by the rules or not even be discoverable by perspective fans. I can very much imagine gaming going similarly, with a few lucky individuals reaping big rewards for great timing of early adoption, then everyone after being screwed. My advice? You need a duopoly at least. Newgrounds existed, yes, but it had a number of competitors out there doing well enough to offer a viable alternative (ichio.io as one example). We need similar in gaming: not one but SEVERAL sites to go to. As an example, I can imagine them having specializations to help stand out (RPGs here, FPSs over here, etc), but they'd be open to any game type so they can compete and diversify. Monopolies should never be the answer when vibrant markets are desired. Competition is where the creativity comes from. Still, kudos for at least being willing to take a stab at solving the problem. It's rare enough to find anyone willing to offer solutions instead of just bitching endlessly that it deserves praise, even if I disagree with it.

[@SlushTV]

Yeah I think you make a good point about censorship and how the algorithm dictated what type of content people make on KZbin. I'd still argue it's a better alternative to the current state of affairs but I can't help but agree that a monopoly is only going to lead to a different set of obstacles. I do think the key, however, is in shifting the paradigm to viewing games and developers as content and content creators.

[@eMorphized]

Try Lutris

[@Deses]

You did not talk about how games are harder and harder to mod, no triple A dev releases mod tools or even thwart modders. All we have now is shitty Unity/UnrealEngine asset flips. Yay.

[@SlushTV]

True! AAA Devs are pushing the industry in a weaker direction sadly.

[@anbu5667]

i knew all this flex flex haha

[@SlushTV]

You're a forward thinker!

[@nascour5991]

Meanwhile nintendo doesn't play it safe and make cool choices but otherwise they're a shit company lmao (besides pokemon swsh that sucked). I've always hated how nintendo, Konami etc treat fangames. I don't think it's a Japanese company thing either as Sega japan loves fangames like u said. Also man idk why u don't get more views ur content is great. Definitely gonna be bringing the best of ur channel :)

[@NaJk93]

I mean just look at games like Gods fall. Combat style? Borrowed from souls games or very generic at least. Monsters and bosses are just damage sponges that absorbs damage without moving when getting hit. It's practically a glorified button masher with quick time events (dodging) And funnily enough to finish off monsters (press "input" to kill). That is how Action rpg's have been since Rune. People praise the Souls games even tho those games also have mediocre combat mechanics which relies on the i-frame roll for anyone to survive first encounters with enemies. It's just lazy design. Monster Hunter suffers the same issue, but atleast you have riding and stunning as different options other than to just DPS away. Why haven't the Action-Rpg genre evolved more over the years? Because there is no way in hell to create mods for those games without being a senior programmer pretty much. You can't just do a little here and do a little there. You will have to change so much about the game that it's practically just rewriting at that point. I'm just salty that i have not gotten a game which offers me a good Action-rpg combat mechanic that isn't based on Massive swinging damage sponges with a fun leveling system. Ocarina of time has better combat than fucking Gods Fall... And that's really sad.

[@kellen987]

Why did this video get no views?

[@SlushTV]

difficult topic to sell, title and thumbnail just didn't hit the algorithm

[@megetmindresukker]

wouldnt itch.io be the platform you are looking for? do agree on the video, gj on it

[@SlushTV]

I've only just discovered the platform today from the comments. The only thing it seems to be missing is mainstream awareness honestly.

[@FrancoisSchnell]

@@SlushTV Yes itch.io needs more public visibility. I'm amazed at the collaborative learning happening in the multiple jams every day itch.io/jams We need streamers making jams participation cool and a game by itself. Also coregames.com (which simplify unreal) could be interesting too. Just discovered your YT channel, love it, keep it up!

[@TheVoiceOfChaos]

itch.io the indie heaven

[@gorydoughnut9789]

Love pubg

[@TheInfernoJesus]

:p

[@ronaldo1969]

You should make your own chanel moore original #realtalk