Sonic Generations 3DS - Sonic Was Always Good

Didn't mention it in the video, but I gotta say, playing a Sonic game at 30 fps is wack. Thanks to emulation, so many can have their framerates increased. I think this is the first game I've had to play at 30. And it's rough. Makes it feel so much worse. Technically not a fair criticism as many other games run at 30 by default. But it still sucks!
btw, this is my second time making this video. The first one turned out kinda bad, so I started over. This version is much better, but gets all the same points across.
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[@bluestar5812]

The devs of the 3DS/PSP (scrapped) version allegedly had only 9 months to make this game, which would explain the rushed aspect of this game: reused level designs, bad story presentation, staff credits is just a slideshow of screenshots from the original games.

[@wanderson4360]

oh, that explains it. Also, gotta love how Sega never learns their lesson 😅 I mean, rushing the development of a Sonic game and it turns out to be bad? Shocked! 😱

[@Joshi_ForReal]

Weird that they were making it for the psp and not the vita which was coming out only a month later? They could've had it as a launch title

[@mrbanks456]

Not a bad game for a 9 month development time.

[@charmyzard]

Their baby? 9 months?

[@mythosinfinite6736]

Idk I was made with a 9 month budget and I came out great

[@jam560]

Just realised this means hes probably gonna play lost world 3ds God help him

[@pokemario99]

Lost worlds 3ds is the superior version of the game

[@johnnycakemusic4069]

Frozen Factory Act 3 would like a word with you.​@@pokemario99

[@thelastgogeta]

​@@pokemario99I can't wait to hear his thoughts on the special stages in that one. They don't make or break any Sonic game but if any game in particular would benefit from them being removed...

[@spritvio639]

​@@pokemario99Then why is the Wii U version on Steam?

[@SamMorgan]

@@pokemario99 I legit don't get how anyone can think that with just how atrocious the 3DS level design gets. Imo it's one of the absolute worst Sonic games.

[@Zejgar]

Agreed with the handheld celebration point. To this day this game remains the biggest missed opportunity in the franchise to me. Not making the portable version of Generations a full-on celebration of portable Sonic titles makes me sad. That there are some portable elements present at least tells me that someone in the dev team felt the same and got stuck midway between vision and realization. I feel you, people in the credits.

[@badiiin]

And to make even worse... it was on 3DS, the last proper handheld made. Not only a lost oportunity, but a last oportunity too. 🥺🥺

[@BJSolar02]

If the PSVita did well enough and continued, we could have gotten another chance at a handheld Sonic game

[@TehJellyLord]

This is completely a case where me having this as a kid kind of completely overrides any of my ability to critically analyze this game. I got this and the 3DS for Christmas in 2011 and this game just sort of inherited my main game spot for such a long time because I mostly played on my GBA, DS, and 3DS back in those days. So I spent an ungodly amount of time playing this and really don’t have any problems with it. I know now the level design is definitely a lot weaker than pretty much every other 2D Sonic title, but since I have it 100% completely mastered and memorized, I still have a lot of fun doing speedruns for this game. I agree with you tho that it is very weak, but I just love the game anyways purely because I played this pretty much every day over the course of a solid 2 year period.

[@_icemyheart_]

Same here, I got the game for Christmas in 2011. The only other games I played on my 3Ds was Sonic colors and I had lost my copy of Sonic Rush. From 5th grade-8th grade I religiously played 3DS gens and I still love it to this day. Though looking back I see it's flaws😭 We both bias🤝

[@porygonlover322]

same here, and i specifically remember it feeling really cool that i wasnt just getting a worse version of the console game i couldnt get at the time - i got a totally unique set of levels that most people who just played the console version never got to experience! it was like my little secret special version of the game

[@Laekith]

Okay here's a hot take: I like the homing attack in 2D, it's just that the level design usually doesn't use it well. Sonic Megamix made me realize this, but I always thought the air dash when you're not locked onto anything was fun even in Sonic 4.

[@randocommando7945]

The air dash in 2D is fun, you're right. People wouldn't like the fire shield otherwise. The problem is that the homing property isn't fun in 2D.

[@Laekith]

@@randocommando7945I disagree, try playing as Sonic in Megamix Mania or using the homing shield in Triple Trouble 16-Bit if you haven't and tell me if that isn't fun.

[@randocommando7945]

@@Laekith Having it as a power-up rather than a default ability sounds fun

[@Laekith]

@@randocommando7945In Megamix it's part of Sonic's moveset

[@Legoluigi26]

This game actually has a competetive online mode where you race another player through the main game's stages and exchange what are essentially Sonic business cards that show your ranks in all the stages, your Mii, your favorite Sonic game and Sonic character (including relatively deep cuts for 2011 Sonic like Tikal and Sonic Blast), and it even shows how long you've been a -prisoner- fan of the series. You're not going to get a match nowadays, but back in the day it was a ton of fun and pushed this game up from serviceable to pretty addicting in my eyes. It's funny that after 12 years Sonic Generations 3DS has the most in-depth online play outside of the racing games.

[@randocommando7945]

Online multiplayer is really something that should be in more mainline Sonic games

[@timtanium7074]

I am so excited to hear your thoughts on Lost World 3DS. I know it's probably the last thing you would want to play after this game has shown that Dimps certainly fell off, but even if SLW3DS has some problems I think it's a huge step up to Gens 3DS. The majority of the gameplay is actually 3D, level design is hardly boring, and I quite enjoy the time attack especially with the infinite spindash. I also liked it so much I had the any% speedrun world record for a little bit.

[@mythosinfinite6736]

One of the levels is so long it doesn't record your time. This man is a speedrunner. Don't get your hopes up.

[@timtanium7074]

@@mythosinfinite6736 I absolutely hear you, but every stage in the game can be beaten in under 4 minutes even without glitches. That's what I mean about how time attack is a blast, probably the most potential for time save from a first playthrough on average of any Sonic game

[@justinc.5591]

There is one good thing about this game. The Big Arm remix.

[@mrbanks456]

This a poor man's Generations, but as a poor kid with no Xbox or PS3, I played the hell out of this. I didnt have a smart phone either, so I would listen to the music they had in Collections all the time.

[@MiloTheMightyDude]

I remember having this version before the console version, and it's saying something that I had completely forgotten what zones were in this one aside from Green Hill and Water Palace.

[@johnnycakemusic4069]

Glad you made the Generations 3ds video, but im still waiting for the next video game topic video. (Limited lives, emulation etc.) You said you had LOTS of video ideas 🥺

[@jordanelliott9050]

Limited lives video would be interesting but he already had an emulation video

[@johnnycakemusic4069]

Yeah, he said he was gonna do more​@@jordanelliott9050

[@sehtuk3953]

To this day, I'll never understand why Tropical Resort of all levels is the last level. Like, I get that it was probably the second most popular stage after Planet Wisp, but Asteroid Coaster would've worked so much better as a final stage.

[@GoofyPoptart]

Dude....I literally just picked this game back up 2 day's ago and you upload about it Nice!! I only decided to play this cause Im currently playing it on My Steam Deck so when Im at Work I've been playing my 3DS here on break instead.

[@amso7169]

how did you get gens 3ds on steam deck to not stutter constantly?

[@silveramyknux241]

I fricking love Tropical Resort Act 2 in this game. It’s so fun to replay and speed run. I love how if you time these levels perfectly, you are kind of moving with the song. The song changed at the most appropriate times. Same goes for Egg Emperor and pretty all of Modern Sonic’s levels are really fun. Specifically when you know what you’re doing because of the level design. (It took me a long time to learn and master these levels)

[@mitch_universe4058]

I played a shit out of the online mode in this game back when this game came out. I remember specifically racing on the Radical Highway stage as Modern Sonic, that stage was so fun back a the day. I remember you could also set your profile page to say how long you had been a Sonic fan, who your favorite character was and what your favorite game was

[@charmyzard]

Wow. When you said last stream you were going to go make the vid we weren't expecting it this fast! I guess Sonic people are indeed built different.

[@esdrasreis3481]

I do like this game quite a bit, but it's definitely the most "it's alright" Sonic game, it also doesn't that Classic Sonic straight up reuses level design, but hey, I like boost Sonic and this is basically more of it Tip: Classic Sonic controls have a really weird quick where if you keep rolling and jumping a lot of times you will pick up a lot of speed, works kinda similar to the 8 bit Sonic games, funnily enough

[@mushroomdude123]

6:24 Man, wouldn’t it be crazy if another Sonic game had this exact same issue. Surely, they would never do that again.

[@frickerrific2813]

Been waiting on this one

[@PaperADRiAN]

I'm very biased on this one, because it's the first game I ever owned, so I know each corner and every little flaw in the controls and I'm used to them. You don't see much people talk about Generations 3DS, which is understandable, because there is not much to talkt about, so I was very interested in your opinion. And yeah, it's a completely fair und good critique on the game, it was very nice to get a well thought perspective on a game I know for over 10 years now, thx.

[@mechashadow]

Garrulous's take is more enjoyable in that case.

[@PaperADRiAN]

@@mechashadow I don't watch reviews to rank to opinions

[@mechashadow]

@@PaperADRiAN It's just a reccomendation not a rank.

[@PaperADRiAN]

@@mechashadow I mean you did wrote that he has a "better take". I also don't just watch videos to enjoy a take, I want the honest and (in the best case) well formulated opinion of the person who's making the video. And if I don't like the opinion, I can still turn the video off. But I see you edited your comment, so I guess you see my point. Anyway, thx for the recomendation.

[@beedrillbot121]

I grew up with this version of Sonic Generations, along with it being the first Sonic game I ever owned/ played. Honestly the fact that got past radical highway was a miracle. I remember constantly falling into the countless bottomless pits that littered that stage. How I managed to stick through with the series after this and Lost World 3DS is truly a mystery to me. On a positive note I will say that the first Sonic stage I remember trying to time attack was the Bio Lizard fight. It was so radically different from anything I had seen from Super Mario World GBA that I honestly loved the fight. I remember loving the fight so much that I honestly convinced myself that this must be a sign that Sonic team would be remaking the Adventure games for 3DS especially after I played Lost World 3DS. I also remember listening to the unlockable music box this game has from previous Sonic Games that I hadn’t played at that time. (I still haven’t played black knight but that is beside the point.) I can wholeheartedly say that I despised playing every second of this game after Emerald Coast. I was glad when I beat the Time Eater and no longer had to play the game anymore, beside the occasional fight against the Biolizard, special stage and maybe Mushroom Hill modern or Emerald Cost, I play here and there. I wish this game were better, but I guess that’s just asking for something that wasn’t made. TLDR: This game is bad, abandon all hope yee who enter. I also really convinced myself that SEGA would remake the adventure games for 3DS since Biolizard was a cool fight.

[@alexfraser8352]

Ngl I kinda have a soft spot for this game & I pop it in every once in a while. I do enjoy the exclusive levels and bosses (the boss music is amazing) and the 100 missions are nice. It for sure could've been so much better though.

[@materegu_gaming]

TLDR:The game only gets good when you start to time attack and learn the levels and mechanics, but it's very good then so it shouldn't be overlooked, especially classic sonic who is super unique in this game Yes, finally, my chance to defend this game. Tbh I didn't like this game the first time I played it for a good reason, yeah, you are correct about every point you made, but the time attack experiance is what you missed out on, bc when you get really into it, it's super fun. Sadly it's a game where you have to actually commit levels to memory and in case of classic sonic, know a hidden mechanic to have the most fun. Which is why i want to talk about this: most people will just play it and then drop it before experiancing the actually fun part of the game. I will start with classic first bc i have way more to say about him. When you jump and hold down while landing you do a little pseudo-dropdash, which really makes you go super super fast and let's you complete levels very quickly. Trying to make use of this to go throu levels at lightning speed makes the game so much more fun and gives you something to do during the "hold right" parts of the gameplay. It's def very memory based thou, so i can see why you might not like it, but i recomend trying it out in greenhill act 1 at least (I challenge anyone who read this to beat this level in under 20sec, get the game on citra and plz try to play like this, i hope that at least one person will learn about how fun this game can be while playing this way) Edit:pseudo-dropdash multiplies momentum so it only works if you are moving, and this multiplication effect is why it boosts your speed so much For modern sonic i don't have much to say, yeah it's just an ok boost gameplay but, for a QTE type gameplay that doesn't matter much? Like ultimately you are doing the same thing, level tells you "do this" and you do it. If this requires more explanation then i will provide it but now i'm tired so this will do. In any case, this is just another boost game, and while not as good as the other onces, it's still very good execution of the formula for time attack but tbh, for casual playthrought the levels kinna suck imo, i dunno the lower paths just don't do it for me. And this contributes to the trend where time attack is very fun but you have to get throu a lot of very mid gameplay to get to that point and most people, like you, don't bother. I think modern sonic is best described as "just another good boost game" which, while isn't apealling to you iirc, is absolutely worth recomending to anyone that does want more solid boost sonic one minor thing thou, it is more memorisation heavy then other boost games but other boost games also have a lot of that if you want best times, so it isn't fundamentally different, just with a little different focus. (somehow modern sonic ended up being the longer section lol) Edit:Spelling

[@TheMiningMeteor]

I have been trying to do green hill act 1 with the dropdash trick for 50 minutes. My palms hurt. I’m just gonna google a speedrun

[@TheMiningMeteor]

I think I broke my d-pad

[@materegu_gaming]

@@TheMiningMeteor xd, omg i'm so sorry

[@TheMiningMeteor]

@@materegu_gamingnvm I got it!! Only .38 seconds under but we take those!!

[@materegu_gaming]

@TheMiningMeteor great job, proud of ya

[@AnimalXing]

It was wild to see a different popular KZbin channel celebrate this game. I thought it was fairly mid

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Short as hell, but I appreciate it. Combined with the console/PC version, it's even nicer. Also better final boss. No "IT'S A HOMING SHOT, BE CAREFUL SONIC".

[@vermontbail]

You are my hero for making this video 🥹

[@yunus8750]

Didn't even get a ''Ring Substitute Joke™'' this time.

[@danaugust993]

I do like the idea of dynamic camera angles in a 2D platformer, like panning to the right to show more obstacles in front of Sonic based on his speed. Somehow the one unique thing about this game backfired.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Loved this game as a Kid, I would always Time Attack the Stages but nowadays I’ve mostly forgot all my Routes because I haven’t played it in many years. I loved Modern Sonic’s stages and kinda enjoyed Classic Sonic too, I’m glad they gave him the Homing Attack because I find his Basic Moveset boring in ever game.

[@internetpawn3542]

To think we could’ve gotten a game that covered the handheld history of sonic

[@grawman67]

Damn, I'm early. I was just binging some of the videos I missed. I'm curious about Gens 3DS. I never actually played this one despite playing somehwat recently playing nearly every ither handheld Sonic. This one is the one I've never even tried

[@silveramyknux241]

5:50 I would say, this game did give me a new appreciation for speed running Casino Night and Mushroom Hill, and just Classic Sonic in general.

[@playbossthebest936]

It's fine. I've read somewhere that this game was made in 6 months, take it with a grain of salt but I can easily believe it... You can feel the cut corners everywhere

[@RTHbeto27]

Haven't touched this game in yesrs but at least i know some stages really save me from dying of boredom on some trips when i was young (when i wasn't in the mood of playing S3&K for the 50th time in the ds collection) so i actually got to time attack them a lot especially emerald coast and by seeing the footage of the video i never forgot the level structure lmao

[@segungamer1207]

MY CHILDHOOD

[@Kanata_Satou]

My biggest problem with this version has always been the over abundance of first stages personally,I mean we have Green Hill,Mushroom Hill,Emerald Coast,Radical Highway (first Shadow stage) and Tropical Resort,it’s like they went for the easiest stages to remake instead of going for more fan favorites and ambitious stages like Flying Battery,Windy Valley,Metal Harbor or Aquarium Park

[@silveramyknux241]

8:22 I agree, this shortcut is bad. I have reached it more often then the lone dash ring shortcut early into Chemical Plant Act 2 tho, lol.

[@tivvy2vs21]

i just finished it and quite liked it, though its a shame there wasnt more handheld stuff obviously

[@halkon4412]

0:41 “Because it’s just a 3DS game, there’s no 3D” You mean because they were lazy, they made it the same as the last gen DS games 😂

[@thelastgogeta]

Right, the 3DS had plenty of solid 3D titles from ambitious ports (Zelda, Xenoblade) from the N64 and Wii to titles which were built around the 3DS like Monster Hunter, E.X. Troopers etc. Capcom and Nintendo had their share of 3D games, even on the original DS (Mario 64 DS and Okamiden)... but that being said, I have no doubt that a 3D Generations on 3DS would have been mediocre based on their output when it is a more simple project. It wouldn't play like Unleashed/Generations at all and would be lucky to be a bad approximation of the Adventure movement though it would have been nice to see.

[@halkon4412]

@@thelastgogeta That's true, but the sales potential would have been there to justify the budget of a real 3D Sonic game on the 3DS if the will was there. Of course they were never going to go that route, but still, to suggest that it was a foregone conclusion that a 3DS game would be in 2D is just giving Sega a pass.

[@pokemario99]

i always felt the same thing about them using zones from console games instead of the handheld ones. if we got a modern remake of bridge zone, both the song and the level, it would’ve been the coolest thing of all time the rest of the video i disagree wholeheartedly lol. i thought this game was extremely fun to time attack and playing it with a perfectionist attitude fixed most of the level design for me. at least for the boost stages, the classic ones were still okay at best. hop off my goat pariah!! you’re supposed to be right all the time!

[@materegu_gaming]

Yeah, exactly, 100% agree about the time attack, but classic sonic is even better, maily bc of the pseudo-dropdash you can you by holding down while hitting the ground while moving, you move so fast like that

[@TheMiningMeteor]

The second part is exactly what I’ve been saying ever since I played it. I’ve S ranked every level other than the final boss, and it’s SO fun.

[@TheMiningMeteor]

@@materegu_gamingI prefer the modern stages, though I didn’t know about that so I’m gonna try running through some of the classic levels with this trick now

[@natoriousthehopeful2786]

I am aware that it has its flaws, but I absolutely love the 3DS version of Sonic Generations: it was easily the best Sonic game on the 3DS

[@amso7169]

there’s an argument that boom fire and ice is superior, but either way “best sonic game on 3ds” is not a huge bar to clear

[@natoriousthehopeful2786]

@@amso7169 Agreed, and the only reason I'd consider FIre and Ice over Generations is that it gave us multiple playable characters

[@Reset2150676]

awesome

[@chaironathursday59knuckles54]

should've talked about the music

[@captainpoopindoofus3853]

A friend kept recommending me to play gens 3DS but I’m kinda not very interested in it and I’ve heard a lot of mixed things about it. This video especially makes me think it’s not worth trying out since you couldn’t really come up with any positives about its execution only some of its ideas. Like at least you were able to say something positive about other games in the series that you find bad such as advance 2 or secret rings but this game makes me think that it’s not worth it at all based on how you felt about it.

[@shilze1]

I do think this game was pretty great for pick up and play, with its mission objectives and collection building. At least I can remember having fun with it on busrides. The classic level remakes made me want full 2.5d remakes of the classic games. As neat as the 3d Sonic 1 and 2 were on the 3ds, it seemed like a bit of a missed opportunity not to make true 3d Sonic 1 and 3. ...AND I can homing attack!

[@CflowProd]

Let's see what you'll say about Sonic Lost World 3DS, that might have this beat.

[@ChaddyFantome]

Generations 3DS was very lukewarm and flaccid as an experience to me. It doesn't help that they don't take advantage of the 2D history of the series, but I also just found it felt less good to play. As for the Homing Attack, I think its a consequence of the levels being a direct translation of the original levels from 3D to 2D. So they felt they needed the homing attack to make em work. That would also account for levels feeling weird and janky in general. I DO think this version of the Time Eater is way better and wish the Generations Console version had used it. But that isnt much of a bar to cross, I suppose. I do like how they brought back Big Arms. I love the remix!

[@bladeofwoe5901]

I remember playing this when I was in 4th grade and my favorite level was sonic vs shadow

[@SonicTheCutehog]

I wonder what the game would look like if it truly was a celebration of the handheld Sonic games like they originally said. Although, I guess they went against that since most players wouldn't know the games and levels being remade (especially with the Game Gear games)

[@SillyLemonz]

everytime i play the sonic generations on the 3ds, i always wondered why they gave classic sonic homing attack and just disables the spindash

[@midi_feline]

Sonic 4 when

[@Gabriel-nw6fc]

Hopefully never

[@lauraikoko]

probably after the gens story video

[@alexandrpeterberg390]

Yeah, the 3DS Generation is certainly a misstep and it was made by Dimps. Dimps were a rather capable team that made decent 2D Sonic games like Advance trilogy and Rush duology. It's regrettable that in the 2010s Dimps devolved from a competent team to a way less competent and creative team which would give them a bad reputation. What SEGA has done to them?

[@amso7169]

i think they just weren’t given much freedom or development time to spread their wings after colors ds

[@silveramyknux241]

13:58 And what makes the missions worse is that if you even want to play them, you need streetpass points. Which, unless you want to walk, I hope you enjoy shaking your console for long periods of time.

[@zachawav]

I always thought they should've used the handheld sonic games for the reimagined levels on the 3ds.

[@thelastgogeta]

Sonic had a rough transition to 3DS. --- Glad this redeemed the Heroes Special Stages, had music player function when the 3DS was closed and didn't mind the missions... However, it was always a so-so release which squandered the opportunity to celebrate more niche Sonic titles - portable or not. When Smash ended up on the 3DS, there was a recognition that they could give an incentive to play both through modes, levels and more. It was never going to be that good, but it could be closer.

[@Raynoir4779]

Hi, so i've been watching this series for a while now and i just realized that there was absolutely no Sonic 4 episode 1 video. are you 1. Gonna cover both episodes in one big video. 2. Just forgot to make a Sonic 4 video.(cuz let's be honest that game is very forgettable.) Or 3. You're just never gonna make any Sonic 4 video ever.

[@kilometersperminute4113]

He said it in his streams that he’ll cover the racing games first iirc.

[@Raynoir4779]

@@kilometersperminute4113 Oh sorry, i've watched some streams but i did not watch all of them fully as my decaying attention span doesn't like when i watch something longer than an hour.

[@Raynoir4779]

Still though, i wonder if he's gonna do one big video for both episodes or do one for each episode.

[@superflameking03]

Hear me out, someone mods Radial Highway to be Route 99 from Advance 3 via simply re-texturing it all, remove Classic Sonic's Homing Attack and give Modern Sonic the same trick system from the two Rush games, that doesn't sound too bad. Not the best in the world, but better than what we got.

[@MisterMistopher]

And so the steady decline in quality begins

[@charmyzard]

Does the 16:12 fade to black and white signal anything paired with your previous comment?

[@silveramyknux241]

15:36 Seeing you use the gems instead of making your own shortcut with the laser wisps is so weird for me, lol.

[@user-fh7di8st6l]

underrated version

[@junkyardcrow1748]

So, Sonic wasn't _always_ good? What a betrayal.

[@GuilitoDoinks]

Remember when you said you wished that Sonic Generations was the gold standard Sonic game. Well, they did use that as a standard, but they used the 3DS version

[@amso7169]

the future titles basically have nothing to do with gens 3ds so i don’t get this take at all

[@mikaylaakridge4635]

If you thought this game was mediocre, you should try Sonic Lost World on 3ds, that game is a whole nother story.😅

[@HazeX2]

I still like it, but I used to think it was the better version because of it having Water Palace and the Heroes special stages

[@DannyBenS94]

I beat this version of the game the day I got it. It was very bland overall. Maybe ok at best. It really feels like an afterthought. Marketing wise, it was better to put it on 3DS vs PSP, but honestly I think that probably hurt the development of the game some due to switching like that. They were originally going to see which handheld levels fans liked best from each game, but for some reason they just went with one handheld exclusive level and one handheld version of one of Colors's level. It sucks, cause this was Sonic's introduction to the 3DS...and it didn't get any better from here.

[@nightlydata2181]

I feel exactly the same. they've been doin the weird homin attack shit for 2D sonic since I believe Advance 2 & I just ask "Y?" EVERYTIME. It doesn't even feel good jus wrong & it fucks me over a ton

[@marrieddyke]

I bought this for 3DS as soon as I heard about it, coming off Colours DS and being really hyped for a cool, flashy, 3D graphics update to the standard winning DIMPS Sonic formula. Had basically the same experience as this video; terrible game. Shoulda had Bridge Zone, Crystal Egg, Gigalopolis, Sunset Park, all that stuff. Weird how Sonic Rush has a zone here but Rush Adventure does not?

[@amso7169]

i would’ve killed to see techno base, chaos angel, and blizzard peaks in this game.

[@silveramyknux241]

I got all S ranks in this game tbh. F*** Tropical Resort Act 1.

[@bluestar5812]

This game suffers from being an early 3DS release. This game could easily run at 60 FPS, or maybe have the levels render in both screens at the same time, but given how 3D screen was the gimmick Nintendo was pushing at the time they had the shove 3D in a lot of games that would be better of without it. Because of the 3D effect the graphics have the be rendered two times at the same time, even when 3D is off. A total waste of processing power. Later in the 3DS' life games would totally disable 3D to squeeze more juice out of the 3D's hardware. Another thing of this game ruined by the 3DS itself is Mission Mode. You merely glanced on it, but Mission Mode in this game can be annoying as hell. You have to unlock every mission with the 3DS' Play Coins. You know? The coins you earn for walking with your 3DS? If you don't have a modded 3DS to inject Play Coins, this can take hours to farm enough coins to unlock at least one Mission. Also, completing missions is how you unlock things for the Gallery in this version. There's no Red Star Coins.

[@aortaplatinum]

The only interesting thing about this game is that it was originally for the PSP before that version was cancelled and that's why it looks crusty compared to a lot of other 3DS titles. That and the Big Arms remix holy FUCK Also now that we're dealing with full 3D visuals with 2D gameplay I can properly bitch about screen crunch. I know you're not supposed to be good at a Sonic stage the first time you play it but fuck me being able to see helps. Which is why it's so baffling that 2.5D Sonic games and even full 2D modern Sonic games like Mania still have the way-too-zoomed-in camera. Like bruh pull it back, those segments in Metallic Madness in Mania where you're in the background are fucking magical to me. Rivals had an okay solution, tilting the camera to the right, but for traditional 2D Sonic, just zoom it the fuck out man. We're not on the Mega Drive anymore man, we can scale sprites and we have the RAM to zoom out in 3D. Freedom Planet 2 and Sonic Momentum even solve this just by having a dynamic camera, and those play like butter, so what's the big fuckin deal? What the fuck are they doin out here? I'm excited to hear you tear apart Sonic Lost World! Cause we've had bad Sonics up to this point but Lost World is so incredibly boring and nothing, and then the 3DS version of Lost World is just bullshit stage design super long levels boring and nothing.

[@sometf2player752]

0:41 modern sonic being in 2d has nothing to do with this being a 3ds game

[@germanempireball968]

What's that graphic for 3ds

[@Mr.Maguro]

Considering how much Advance 2 broke you, I'm surprised this is the first game you considered the worst of the bunch so far. :0

[@spritvio639]

He's probably saying that because of what lies ahead. We've already covered colors and generations. It's all downhill from here with one exception.

[@tylerparkes-jk7uv]

​@@spritvio639 Which is?

[@Montymole_360]

I remember reading a couple reviews of this game around the time of its release, actually claiming it to be BETTER than the console version. I played it a few months after putting extensive time into the Xbox 360 version, thinking omg if this is actually even better than the console version, this is gonna be incredible. And I played it & was extremely confused by the idea that anybody could seriously say it was even particularly GOOD, let alone BETTER than the excellent console version. To this day I'm completely baffled by that opinion

[@meleeludens]

sounds like the handheld equivalent of sonic forces lol

[@ironpiyepic2666]

"Sonic was always good! Except the comics which avidly are the best part of the franchise..." pick up a book, please

[@SantiagoMonroy5]

Where's Sonic 4?

[@Howardpower679]

This game DAWG 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Neawn-by5pi]

One thing you've missed with the level layouts, not only are most of the levels copy-pasted from the games they're representing, but some of the so-called "original" levels of this game are literally just 2D recreations of 3D levels, look at Classic Emerald Coast and Classic Radical Highway for example. So yeah, this game is even more unoriginal than you thought.

[@segungamer1207]

11th

[@Qualske]

So the video title was a lie. Thank you for wasting my time.

[@phorchybug3286]

Stupid 3DS.

[@Ibalistic_hedge]

This honestly has the most undetailed, boring, bland game in the 2D series. This has the most bland level design in the mainline series.

[@shaankelly1302]

This game is a guilty pleasure of mine. Its not good. The level design is very just run and do nothing else. However, speedrunning the levels is quite fun and you can do some really neat skips and switch between paths quite often