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Sonic Heroes, Next Gen, & Unleashed are NOT Sonic Adventure 3!!! Here's Why... | Sonic Adventure 3

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Critique on Media Arts

Critique on Media Arts

7 жыл бұрын

Here are the reasons why Sonic Heroes, Next Gen, & Unleashed are NOT Sonic Adventure 3.
Also, please do not witch-hunt the people who were trying to convince me that one of the Sonic games were Sonic Adventure 3 or the people who believe that Sonic Next Gen is not a reboot. Thank you.
Sources
**Takashi Iizuka’s interview with Electronic Gaming Monthly (EGM)**
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** Takashi Iizuka’s interview with Edge**
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**IGN’s Article of Sonic Next Gen**
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**gameindustry.biz’s Article of Sonic Next Gen**
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**Pete Capella's (Silver's former VA) Resume**
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**The Development Process of Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)**
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**Blaze is from an alternative dimension**
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**SEGA does not care about continuity**
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**The Super Emeralds, along with Hyper Sonic, Hyper Knuckles & Super Tails, are no longer canon**
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**Blaze remembers Crisis City in Sonic Generations**
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**Sonic Unleashed began as Sonic Adventure 3**
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**Yoshihisa Hashimoto’s interview with Nintendo Power**
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** Iizuka Speaks of Sonic Adventure 3…Sort Of**
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@critiqueonmediaarts9937
@critiqueonmediaarts9937 7 жыл бұрын
@14:40 - 14:59 HOLY SHIT!!! I WAS RIGHT!!! www.polygon.com/2017/9/19/16333174/sonic-adventure-3-will-never-happen “If we can get the gameplay to evolve and get to a place where Adventure 3 makes sense, then you might see an Adventure 3 come out,” said Iizuka. “But we don’t want to take the entire series back to where it was just make people happy. We want to advance the idea of what a Sonic game is.” Umm...Sonic 4? Sonic Generations? Sonic Mania? Classic Sonic shoehorned in Sonic Forces? Only wants classic stages in Sonic Mania? :/ Is Iizuka for real? The fact that he is not self aware is hilarious XD!
@MobCrusher
@MobCrusher 6 жыл бұрын
Pentacle Dilation Multi-Platform Entertainment Being really honest I don't want a Sonic Adventure 3, we don't need one actually. I think the reason many people want Sonic Adventure 3 is because they want the Adventure gameplay style back, so here's a pretty simple idea; Sega can make a new game using the Adventure gameplay style, it doesn't have to be a sequel to Sonic Adventure, unless Sega doesn't really want to bring it back
@critiqueonmediaarts9937
@critiqueonmediaarts9937 6 жыл бұрын
@GamingDead 2020 =D Thanks mate!
@resortislandthedreamcastso5897
@resortislandthedreamcastso5897 6 жыл бұрын
The game is supposed to make you happy. Think Iizuka think
@Lets_Get_Scratchin
@Lets_Get_Scratchin 6 жыл бұрын
Pentacle Dilation Multi-Platform Entertainment bro you know what you're talking about!!! Nice video!!
@scoob7306
@scoob7306 6 жыл бұрын
they made it anyway kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4a7lKqhqpafqrs
@michaelchandran915
@michaelchandran915 6 жыл бұрын
But SA3 already exists It's on the gameboy advance
@AAhmou
@AAhmou 6 жыл бұрын
Genius!
@jameshenry2474
@jameshenry2474 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@junglejuicejuno
@junglejuicejuno 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Chandran This is hilarious But Sega didn’t think it through having two Sonic series with the initials SA
@taffyistrashy
@taffyistrashy 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Chandran advance 3 is the best out of the sonic gba games
@edwardrobinson919
@edwardrobinson919 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic advance 3 yes. They got the same initials.
@needlewind9053
@needlewind9053 7 жыл бұрын
I completely understand your point, but let's be real : Sonic 06 is the closest thing to Sonic Adventure 3 we'll ever get.
@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012
@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 5 жыл бұрын
That is very true
@raiden5able
@raiden5able 4 жыл бұрын
i fully agree
@F4zN_Tundra
@F4zN_Tundra 4 жыл бұрын
Yep and not a re-boot xD
@fxgspartan1231
@fxgspartan1231 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 was meant to be like a Sonic Adventure game, however it was placed into another series due to Sega wanting to reboot the series. If Sonic 06 was good then the adventure like norm for sonic story would remain, and the modern games would remain better these days.
@toniosoflyy
@toniosoflyy 3 жыл бұрын
No don’t ever compare Sonic 06 to what Sonic Adventure 3 could be
@JaysonJeansChannelTM
@JaysonJeansChannelTM 6 жыл бұрын
The main reason why these games aren’t Sonic Adventure 3. They don’t have the title. :)
@kingcatzak
@kingcatzak 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone is so stupid sonic r is the real sonic adventure 3
@m0m02k
@m0m02k 5 жыл бұрын
sonic gaming r/whooosh
@HakiKingEntertainment
@HakiKingEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
im sure it was a joke @Ward Rawashdeh
@tyraelprice8293
@tyraelprice8293 4 жыл бұрын
Nah man, the real Sonic Adventure 3 is Sonic Shuffle
@thebombsquadtv6151
@thebombsquadtv6151 4 жыл бұрын
Y e s
@kinggamage488
@kinggamage488 4 жыл бұрын
Your stupid sonic r was made before adventure
@jackfblades7528
@jackfblades7528 6 жыл бұрын
Pfft,we all know Sonic's Schoolhouse is Sonic Adventure 3,I swear everybody's so dumb
@joeylarosa698
@joeylarosa698 7 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 wasn't really a reboot, but it wasn't SA3 either. No chao garden, no gameplay variety between characters, and no whimsy in the story at all. It's the closest we've got, but it's not quite there.
@InklingRacer456
@InklingRacer456 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Ur true but regardless Sonic 06 is practically sonic Adventure 3 it has a lot in common with the Adventure series than people think
@joeylarosa698
@joeylarosa698 6 жыл бұрын
+InklingRacer Brawler I like to think of it as a spiritual successor, like what Sonic Rush was to Sonic Advance. Not the same, but a lot of similarities.
@InklingRacer456
@InklingRacer456 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Ur I mean you’re not wrong
@joeylarosa698
@joeylarosa698 6 жыл бұрын
+InklingRacer Brawler Give it about a decade, and they'll make an Adventure 3 for nostalgia pandering, I almost guarantee it.
@InklingRacer456
@InklingRacer456 6 жыл бұрын
Don't Really Expect that to happening due to what sonic 06 turn out to be
@STikER326
@STikER326 6 жыл бұрын
As I always say, though Sonic '06 is not Sonic Adventure 3, it's the closest thing to SA3 we'll ever get.
@mr.retrospective5433
@mr.retrospective5433 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for backing up why the three games mentioned don't cut it as SA3. Although, we don't need an Adventure successor to bear the "3" necessarily, like how Mania doesn't bear the "4". Also, Generations can qualify as non-canon. We'll see what Forces brings to the table.
@Lets_Get_Scratchin
@Lets_Get_Scratchin 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Retrospective maybe like sonic: re-live the adventure?
@diamondinthesky4771
@diamondinthesky4771 6 жыл бұрын
If Sega still made consoles somehow, I like to imagine that a "Sonic Adventure" game would be sort of a tradition they do whenever they launch a new console. To be honest, it really just kinda feels wrong to have SA3 after Sega is not making hardware anymore. It's like Sega was gearing up to have it's next big trilogy, but then it just abruptly stopped when the reality of having to discontinue hit. If the Dreamcast never failed, I have no doubt we'd have a Dreamcast trilogy as a spiritual successor to the Genesis trilogy.
@mayonnaiz-7990
@mayonnaiz-7990 6 жыл бұрын
Liked that you called 06' "Next Gen". Gives it a better reputation and sounds better since it actually (was) the next gen game
@Everik-ct6pg
@Everik-ct6pg 6 жыл бұрын
Adventure 3 will have the same fate as Half-Life³ Also, Unleashed WAS actually supposed to be Adventure 3, but it was so different from the Adventure series that they decided to change it
@Axxidous
@Axxidous 7 жыл бұрын
I also doubt that anyone just wants them to MAKE Sonic Adventure 3. Obviously we want them to make it good. I feel like saying "Sonic Adventure 3" is implication that we mean we want it to be good. So, yes, I DO hope they make Sonic Adventure 3 someday. I don't mean I hope they make it, fucked up or not, I mean I hope they make it and make it good! xD I would like to see that someday. Yes. I want to see SA3, in glory. To avoid any confusion, that's me saying it'd be cool to see a cool game called Sonic Adventure 3, fitting of the title, and a good game. Someday. Hopefully. Less likely but still possible.
@Axxidous
@Axxidous 7 жыл бұрын
I think he meant that the characters had amnesia after 06 (as expressed by Elise who feels something familiar but isn't sure what. It's common for characters to have amnesia after time travel adventures end)
@quent.inhood
@quent.inhood 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah! We ALL know Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric is the real SA3... right? Right? I'll just go now...
@BugsTheRabbit2435
@BugsTheRabbit2435 13 күн бұрын
No
@SeleDreams
@SeleDreams 5 жыл бұрын
and about the chao garden, if it was on GBA it was because the gba chao gardens were created to replace the dreamcast VMU features
@bigal5515
@bigal5515 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic triple trouble is the real Sonic adventure 3, Can't change my mind
@ZX_STH
@ZX_STH 6 жыл бұрын
KZbinr:"hopefully sonic forces story is good" SEGA:"Sorry, I'm not sorry"
@sauceisfunny
@sauceisfunny 7 жыл бұрын
WHY DONT YOU HAVE MORE SUBS! These are quality.
@barkbuck5521
@barkbuck5521 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't think so many people didn't know 06 was a reboot. Though, thinking about it now I can see why. As much as I would love an SA3, it'll never actually live up to expectations, especially with the way the games are being made now. I think they could very successfully get away with a stand alone Chao garden though.
@garykleiman2456
@garykleiman2456 7 жыл бұрын
Super knuckles was still canon, then super tails came back in mania, hyper knuckles isn't canon as u said
@uconker8120
@uconker8120 7 жыл бұрын
Sonic Adventure 3 must lead on from 2 so story wise it must be similar or have points of similarities in both meaning that SA3 would be best described as Shadow The Hedgehog.
@theultimateedgeformshadowt6945
@theultimateedgeformshadowt6945 7 жыл бұрын
uConker it also uses same locations and has a dark and serious story
@AshkarBehek0
@AshkarBehek0 7 жыл бұрын
Except that SA1 really doesn't lead up to 2 all that much, to be honest. I really don't think that linking the stories together matters as long as it shares gameplay and other stuff.
@theultimateedgeformshadowt6945
@theultimateedgeformshadowt6945 7 жыл бұрын
Frank22222 On the ark you fight artificial chaoses and the biolizard was based on chaos so there are connections knuckles also uses tikal's chant on the ark to cancel the chaos emeralds power so there are links in the story of SA1 and SA2
@AkariAkaza72
@AkariAkaza72 7 жыл бұрын
And let's not forget that tails had an emerald from the last game
@ppvsonicspy
@ppvsonicspy 7 жыл бұрын
The ultimate edgeform shadow the edgehog But those are references. Not story connections to SA1. Sonic Generations has references of Sonic Colors and Sonic and the Secret Rings.
@patthemat7134
@patthemat7134 7 жыл бұрын
Pfft sonic 06 is not adventure 3 it's adventure 69 sonic it's so obvious
@realer2748
@realer2748 3 жыл бұрын
Weren’t these all planned to be sonic adventure 3 at one point
@LuucasIckie
@LuucasIckie 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid!!! I never believed Sonic Heroes, 06 or Unleashed was an Adventure 3! Everytime i was going to say to some Sonic Fan "i want an Adventure 3" and they say "it already exist, it is (name of some of this games)" I think the same thing as you, no Chao Gardens, History, Different Formula, Reboot, it WAS to be called SA3, etc. I love Sonic Unleashed and Heroes as their own games, and I love Adventure Series Too much to simply think "SA3 already exist". This games not even has "SA3" on titles! Sonic 06 just has not sufficient time to be good, they make a quick game, so it can't be a SA3. I already said that to one of my friends and he said "Stop Dreaming high. SA3 will never happen, Sonic 2006 it's an SA3, Heroes it's an SA2.5". lol SEGA really doesn't even care about the canon, in the Ending of Sonic 06 Sonic and Elise put out the Solaris' flame and the game re-start, but Eggman does not appears and Sonic never met Elise. It is a Reboot and the game deleted itself. It's the Same Thing About "two Worlds", Takashi Iizuka said Sonic's World and "Human's World" are different planets, it doesn't make any sense at all. I know this video it's 3 years old, and SA3 probably will not happens, but I find it now and i still thinking Heroes, 06 and Unleashed are not SA3, and I have to comment this, Thx
@SuperPiposaru
@SuperPiposaru 7 жыл бұрын
Aw yeah! This video is happenin'!
@billysbrother6047
@billysbrother6047 4 жыл бұрын
Technically SA3 already exists. and i'm not talking about the advance games. SA2 is the real SA3 because sonic shuffle comes after SA1.
@kensukefan47
@kensukefan47 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@promiseomiponle810
@promiseomiponle810 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the right question for why 06 is a reboot would be why crisis city is in generations, although that question can definitely be asked in regards to the events of 06 having been erased at the end of the game. It would make more sense to ask why stages from games before 06 appeared in generations. At the end of the day, like you said, SEGA really doesn’t give a shit about a canon and continuity lmfao
@joshiba-yj8qn
@joshiba-yj8qn 6 жыл бұрын
Did you forget that crush 40 did a version his world in sonic 06?
@elbacarrera3615
@elbacarrera3615 3 жыл бұрын
After shadows’s fall in sa2 the dark story in sh opinions w/shadow is in green glass
@justinriffey3068
@justinriffey3068 6 жыл бұрын
Why do people call these games adventure 3 if it was sa3 then why don't they call it that
@mheijink
@mheijink 10 ай бұрын
I was there when Sega released Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 originally on Dreamcast. I had both games for that system. Then at a sudden those two games were released on GameCube. If you compare the gameplay of those two games you can clearly see that Sega wanted to change the series into a more action paced game experience to get already the attention of the mainstream audience. Then not much later we got Sonic Heroes. Unlike these days where we have a lot of spin offs reboots, remakes etc, in those days in gaming there was barely no spin offs or reboots at all. So right after Sonic Adventure 2 we got Sonic Heroes and the gameplay was more action oriented than Sonic Adventure 2. For me Sonic Heroes will always be the spiritual "Sonic Adventure 3" But because the gameplay of the series has changed so much started with Sonic Adventure 2, you just can't put "Adventure" in to the title of that third game. When I played Sonic Heroes for the first time on GameCube in 2004 you could genuinely feel that the game has its roots with its Adventure heritage. To conclude : Yes, officially there is no Sonic Adventure 3. The series changed a lot those days. But for me and probably for lots of others as well, especially when you were there in those days, Sonic Heroes felt as a follow up of the adventure games. And if you are looking how the gameplay changed from SA1 to Sonic Heroes you will definitely see a change in gameplay. From a total Adventure play into an action team game play.
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic Heroes and Shadow The Hedgehog actually continued the story of Sonic a adventure 2 unlike with Sonic The Hedgehog 2006, but that doesn’t make them Sonic Adventure 3 and Adventure 4. Sonic The Hedgehog 2006 is copying Sonic Adventure 1 (not 2) and if it’s called Sonic Adventure 3 then Colors, Generations and Forces should be World Adventure 2, 3 and 4 since they continue the boost formula. - Sonic World Adventure Sonic and Sonic Wolfhog - Sonic World Adventure 2 Sonic and Wisp - Sonic World Adventure 3 Sonic and Classy Sonic - Sonic World Adventure 4 Sonic, Classy Sonic and The Avatar See what I mean If there was a Sonic Adventure 3 then it should take place before Heroes so there. - No Shadow, Omega, Silver, Blaze ect ect. I no longer believe Sonic World Adventure is Adventure 3 because it has the boost as the gameplay.
@VictoryReviews
@VictoryReviews 5 жыл бұрын
06 and Unleashed were literally made as sequeals Unleashed is completely different I'll give you that But 06 plays just like adventure
@levlev4048
@levlev4048 3 жыл бұрын
I see your points, I understand, but still think sonic unleashed is sa3.
@ascripter
@ascripter Жыл бұрын
I ain't gon lie, every sonic game that be getting released now feels like a reboot 😭😭😭 just not good ones
@TheShadowspear2
@TheShadowspear2 7 жыл бұрын
I think you meant to say Sonic 06 is a Soft Reboot. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequel#Soft_reboot
@InklingRacer456
@InklingRacer456 6 жыл бұрын
1:28 I will tell you why 06 is Sonic Adventure 3 because it’s has THE most common with the sonic Adventure series than any game in the franchise and I’m amazed how you and many many people and KZbinrs didn’t make the connection in the end of the world level you play as everyone (except for sonic and blaze), in the Final level for sa2 you play as everyone in hero story and dark story (except for shadow) in one scene The egg carrier appears in souliama (correct my spelling if Im wrong) and Amy sees it and in sa1 the egg carrier appears and Amy sees it in Station Square. I know in your opinion you may not agree with this and I respect that but trust me Sonic 06 has a lot in common to the Adventure series than meets the eye
@InklingRacer456
@InklingRacer456 6 жыл бұрын
You're right but it's perfect for that title plus haven't people forgotten that 06 is actually called Sonic The Hedgehog
@naomimontanez8273
@naomimontanez8273 6 жыл бұрын
InklingRacerBrawler it's not worthy of the title and later on in the video he proves it's a reboot clearly. I will say this though. It's the closest to adventure 3 we will ever be getting. Aaaand that's it. It's just not adventure 3 simple as that
@InklingRacer456
@InklingRacer456 6 жыл бұрын
Miles Prower your opinion dude and I'm cool with it
@InklingRacer456
@InklingRacer456 6 жыл бұрын
Plus Sonic 06 actual name is Sonic The Hedgehog and the game is NOT worthy for that title either
@herothediamond
@herothediamond 5 жыл бұрын
I Think Sonic 06 Suppose to Be Called Sonic Adventure 3 and Sega Canceled The Title of Sonic Adventure 3 and Put Sonic 06 and P.S. Sonic is My Childhood and I Will Be a Sonic Fan
@bobstayoffthegrass8772
@bobstayoffthegrass8772 3 жыл бұрын
even if any of those games are Sonic Adventure 3, we at best have not had a Sonic Adventure game in 12 years people are gonna ask wtf is up when a subseries in an active franchise hasn't been touched in that amount of time bro
@StrangeSunset7
@StrangeSunset7 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, 06 checks all of those marks aside from being a reboot. Cool video
@finalhazard883
@finalhazard883 4 жыл бұрын
There is a Sonic adventure 3... the last season of Sonic X.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 ай бұрын
They could totally flesh it out more, make a game of it, and call it the threequel. The Metorex were interesting enough, nothing ground breaking but ultimately good enough to be main antagonists, also a good way to give Shadow the treatment his character deserves.
@BillDozer
@BillDozer 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, but I think that the closest that we have gotten to SA3 was Heroes. Also 9:02 two people have told me that 06 isn't a reboot because it was bad. WHAT KIND IF LOGIC IS THAT?!?!
@lupitagalindo1631
@lupitagalindo1631 4 жыл бұрын
If sonic 06 is a reboot then sonic never had a sequel
@__babyface
@__babyface 4 жыл бұрын
Those 3 titles beat out all the fake Sonic games throughout the whole 2010s plus the Sonic Fake Film.
@SuperNickvid
@SuperNickvid 6 жыл бұрын
Simple, because they are not titled “ Sonic Adventure 3 “. Duh.
@ntyzzak4925
@ntyzzak4925 4 жыл бұрын
But wait didn’t sonic unleashed in Japan name was sonic world adventure
@Treyshellz
@Treyshellz 6 жыл бұрын
If the super emeralds and Hyper Sonic are no longer cannon that wouldn't that mean S3&K is no longer cannon? That means the events in that game, collecting the Super Emeralds and going Hyper to stop the true final boss is no longer cannon? Tekashi Izuka really confuses me sometimes with his decisions
@Spearklys
@Spearklys 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it weird that sonic 06 is just a port cuz it has the same story as sonic adventure with a bit of changes and better graphics? i played the game and i wont lie it annoyed me that a sonic game has lots of glitches in launch... but seriously people actually think that sonic 06 is sonic adventure 3 even tho it's the same story as sonic adventure SO PEOPLE THINK THAT A STORY THAT ALREADY WAS IN ANOTHER GAME IS A SEQUAL OF SONIC ADVENTURE?
@superhyperdan3827
@superhyperdan3827 4 жыл бұрын
If SA3 does happen. I've an idea for a story. The basic premise being the Nocturn from Chronicles. I think since Chronicles is non-canon that it should be in the canon series. Basically the Nocturn come to Earth (NOT MOBIUS, EARTH, SEGA) and begin attacking Sonic and friends. As this is about the echidnas Knuckles will get tons of development. There will be 3 stories. Hero, Neutral and Dark. Hero story will include Sonic and Tails going head-to-head with Eggman. Neutral will be Knuckles alone trying to come to terms with more echidnas and having to fight them. Dark will include Shade and Shadow as they help each other without Shadow knowing Shade's true identity. Think Shadow as a bounty hunter. And then a last story where everything come to a head and Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Shadow all become super and have to face the leader of the Nocturn tribe.
@snic3180
@snic3180 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic unleashed is technically a sonic adventure game NOT SA3 but it is sonic world adventure
@Kyle-ii4fp
@Kyle-ii4fp 6 жыл бұрын
20 people are modern morans🤣.. if people get the reference
@dr92hmc99X
@dr92hmc99X 6 жыл бұрын
Mariotehplumber i really despite that guy.😑
@Kyle-ii4fp
@Kyle-ii4fp 6 жыл бұрын
@@dr92hmc99X I dispise him to but I think he's a troll lol
@dr92hmc99X
@dr92hmc99X 6 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle-ii4fpi know.
@Kyle-ii4fp
@Kyle-ii4fp 6 жыл бұрын
@@dr92hmc99X oh ok
@PatSmashYT
@PatSmashYT 3 жыл бұрын
Well none of them are called Sonic Adventure 3
@sophieburke3757
@sophieburke3757 5 жыл бұрын
There’s no fucking chao Garden
@commanderspyder5432
@commanderspyder5432 7 жыл бұрын
I don't get some fans. SA3 doesn't fucking exist, no shit. These games are just similar to each other. Do people not actually acknowledge that? Why do people even make these types of videos? It's just opinions in all honesty really, since none of these games are titled SA3. Shouldn't that just be it? It's not called it, so it's not, it's just very similar.
@critiqueonmediaarts9937
@critiqueonmediaarts9937 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure you missed it, but I pointed out why I made this video @1:00. The people who commented in one of my old videos @1:13 were trying trying to convinced me that Sonic Heroes, Sonic 06, or Sonic Unleashed were Sonic Adventure 3. They're not nicknaming those games, "Sonic Adventure 3", mate. They truly believe that these titles are called Sonic Adventure 3, even though those games are not titled as Sonic Adventure 3. And it's not just them, there are other Sonic fans out there who believe that Heroes, Next Gen, or Unleashed are Sonic Adventure 3. I made this video to show that Sonic Team had no attentions on making Sonic Heroes, Sonic 06, and Sonic Unleashed as Sonic Adventure 3. Well, except for Unleashed, but I already explain why that game is not technically Sonic Adventure 3. Yes, it's clear that these games are similar to the Adventure titles. I have no problem with people comparing the Adventure games with Heroes, Next Gen, and Unleashed, but if they're going to called these games, "Sonic Adventure 3" they should know what they are talking about. Yes, in the end of the day, they're just opinions and it's a no brainier that Heroes, Next Gen, and Unleashed are not Sonic Adventure 3. I just wanted people to be informed about the stuff I found the internet and be open minded before they start talking out of their asses, that's all.
@pkmnTrainerGold0
@pkmnTrainerGold0 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is a shitty reboot. The story doesn't really stand on its own and the game erases itself from the canon anyway. If the game didn't redesign Eggman, fuck up Blaze's origin, and was named Sonic Adventure 3 (& Knuckles) there would be no argument over 06 being SA3. (Well, titles are hard to argue anyway... Stupid Sonic 4...)
@Faisalthefist
@Faisalthefist 2 жыл бұрын
06 isnt a reboot and is adventure 3
@Hi-fj9cy
@Hi-fj9cy 3 жыл бұрын
They did not make sonic adventure 3 because Sega is done with Dreamcast
@jojosmooth999
@jojosmooth999 5 күн бұрын
Sonic heroes is Sonic Adventure 3
@garrettjohnson89
@garrettjohnson89 5 жыл бұрын
For the reboot argument I'm just gonna leave a picture of generations but unfortunately still agree 06 isn't adventure 3
@FoxyGrandpa7
@FoxyGrandpa7 5 жыл бұрын
i kinda wished they didn't change Sonic Unleashed from Sonic Adventure 3. i would've loved to see that happen.
@mattglover560
@mattglover560 3 жыл бұрын
Late comment so the guy's opinions may have changed but this is a debate that occasionally rears its head in SA2 Hell so This video kinda ignores the point of the discussion and it slightly bothered me that there was no acknowledgement of this, especially since it feels like he got so close to saying it, that i can't tell if the video is sincere or not The point of the debate is which game represents the adventure games well enough to fill the void made by the knowledge that SA3 will never exist, a spiritual successor if you will. Also 06 meets all the criteria laid out at the end of the video, it may have been considered a reboot but Unleashed was more of a reboot than 06
@bigfanofsb653
@bigfanofsb653 3 жыл бұрын
10:04 that doesn't change the definition of a reboot
@klusterfuk3688
@klusterfuk3688 6 жыл бұрын
In Japan Sonic Unleashed is called Sonic World Adventure 3... So it exists and you played it but you didn't know it.
@justatoaster7476
@justatoaster7476 5 жыл бұрын
Unknown_RedChan 407 It’s called sonic world adventure not sonic world adventure 3. Please cut the bullshit
@peyton5914
@peyton5914 5 жыл бұрын
Sonic unleashed was originally sonic world ADVENTURE
@lukegamerzw
@lukegamerzw 7 жыл бұрын
if shadow '05 is spin-off so sonic forces is next reboot of sonic adventure or sonic forces is sonic adventure 3?
@nolanpayne
@nolanpayne 5 жыл бұрын
13:29 WHY DOES HE KEEP SHOWING UP?
@chalkfourtyfive
@chalkfourtyfive 6 жыл бұрын
What if i told you Unleashed was developed as SA3 but was changed because it was too short? You can see this by the name of the japanese version (World Adventure)
@kensukefan47
@kensukefan47 3 жыл бұрын
What if I told you That they changed it because it played a lot different than Adventure?
@AshkarBehek0
@AshkarBehek0 7 жыл бұрын
... I think sega keeps attempting to make SA3, but keeps backing down and change it's name and concept because they don't have the guts to pull it off. I mean, with Sonic Forces, they made a story where Sonic has to work along with OTHER people (it's even what the main theme is all about). This was THE premises to pull off Sonic Adventure 3. But, no.... Classic Sonic and Deviant the Artwork. I mean, Classic Sonic isn't even relevant! This is not Sonic Generations 2 and we already got Mania FFS! Why couldn't it have been Knuckles or Shadow to smash that boulder in the trailer?
@uconker8120
@uconker8120 7 жыл бұрын
"Don't have the guts to pull it off" Incorrect, they don't make it because giving it a new name and identity is a better marketing strategy than trying to ride the popularity of a 16 year old game.
@theultimateedgeformshadowt6945
@theultimateedgeformshadowt6945 7 жыл бұрын
uConker a popularity that is turning into hate I should add
@AshkarBehek0
@AshkarBehek0 7 жыл бұрын
"Marketing strategy" and "guts" are the two opposites for me. Sure, they can perfectly take the most "market strategical" thing to do and release a new game with a new name. It's the safest way to make money as it keeps people's expectations relatively low. Announcing SA3, sure, would be allot riskier. People's expectations would become high and it will by a "do or die" scenario, most likely. It takes more "guts", but if they manage to do it right, they might get even MORE money than other wise. And with Sonic06 as the perfect example of how NOT to do SA3, I am sure they can pull it off (at least gameplay wise). And I don't agree that the age of SA as any relevance. Kid Icarus: Uprising is the sequel to what? And NES title? It's just a matter of giving it's chance to a game series that had much unexploited potential and it can perfectly turn out right.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 ай бұрын
@@uconker8120 "giving it a new name and identity is a better marketing strategy than trying to ride the popularity of a 16 year old game." Sonic the Hedgehog is 33 years old, they still ride that train.
@terrancespells308
@terrancespells308 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah every Sonic game after Sonic 06 was a Sonic Adventure like glitchy
@crashban4t.f.s.b783
@crashban4t.f.s.b783 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is the most unnecessary reboot in gaming history.
@terrancespells308
@terrancespells308 6 жыл бұрын
if Sonic 06 is a reboot then why is the egg carrier called the egg carrier 3 in Sonic 06
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 ай бұрын
Eggman just didn't study aerodynamics enough in this game, so the first two exploded or crashed. It's why everybody knew who he was when he kidnapped Elise.
@backtothefutureman1
@backtothefutureman1 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Japanese name for unleashed as its called Sonic World Adventure in Japan?
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын
Yee but just because it has Adventure in the title doesn’t mean it’s SA3
@backtothefutureman1
@backtothefutureman1 3 жыл бұрын
@@75JUNAKI I know, but the game’s an entire adventure.
@resortislandthedreamcastso5897
@resortislandthedreamcastso5897 6 жыл бұрын
You make a good argument but somewhere in my heart I still think all those games are somewhat a part of Sonic Adventure 3. Like a trilogy. (Sonic 4 pops up ) A complete and practically good trilogy!(Sonic 4 sinks down)
@crashban4t.f.s.b783
@crashban4t.f.s.b783 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic fans say it’s not but, it still is.
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын
But it isn’t
@crashban4t.f.s.b783
@crashban4t.f.s.b783 3 жыл бұрын
@@75JUNAKI I was joking.
@commanderspyder5432
@commanderspyder5432 7 жыл бұрын
I think what people don't understand is how similar each game is to some of the past games, hence why they nickname it such things. They're not LITERALLY Sonic Adventure 3, it's just that people are so tired of everyone begging for a SA2 sequel I think, since we've had similar games since then. The Sonic Adventure games weren't identical to each other, they're still sequels though. I think the similarities that are so obvious because they play similar (Sonic 06) and have similar level design. In my opinion, I think people can't seem to admit these similarities. Also, they can't get over the Adventure games, at least the fanboys can't.
@b1zarr371
@b1zarr371 6 жыл бұрын
do you know sonic unleashed was gonna be sonic adventure 3 but it got scrapped just like knuckles and shadow were scrappex
@naomimontanez8273
@naomimontanez8273 6 жыл бұрын
PowerMobo watch the full video dude
@dragonlord12100
@dragonlord12100 5 жыл бұрын
Not watching because of your first 20 seconds. I will do exactly that because your tone of voice irritated me. Sonic heroes is kinda like a sonic adventure 3 but I’ll agree it that it’s not. It’s gameplay is enough on its own to be a separate genre. Sonic generation is also not sonic adventure 3. The 2 games have no similarities whatsoever. But if you try to say that sonic 06 wasn’t meant to be adventure 3 or a spiritual successor then your just blind. Gameplay is the same for the most part, talking about movement and abilities of sonic and others. Sonic plays how he did in adventure 2, omega plays almost exactly as gamma did in adventure one, knuckles also plays the same but instead of finding emerald shards your looking for switches. Only original gameplay elements they had were for silver and blaze, shadow was different as well but the core gameplay was still there. Moving past gameplay they had a hub world for all the levels like Sonic adventure 1 Like sonic adventure 1, 2, and heroes (a game your saying some people classify as sonic adventure 3) they have a grading system which I know pretty much all sonic games have that now but you don’t get emblems when you get an S rank. And finally it has 3 stories that are happening at the same times as each other like sonic 1,2 and even heroes. Like I said sonic unleashed isn’t even close to being an adventure title and heroes has some similarities but enough to make it its own thing but Sonic 06 is CLEARLY meant to be adventure 3 or a spiritual successor. Sorry but not sorry for not watching your video and for making an ass out of myself but I really don’t care.
@critiqueonmediaarts9937
@critiqueonmediaarts9937 4 жыл бұрын
@Nobody's Hero "Not watching because of your first 20 seconds. I will do exactly that because your tone of voice irritated me." Wow, that's really petty...
@dragonlord12100
@dragonlord12100 4 жыл бұрын
Critique on Media Arts you are replying to this one year later thinking I wouldn’t reply back.... that’s pretty petty.
@critiqueonmediaarts9937
@critiqueonmediaarts9937 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragonlord12100 I just discovered your comment just now. I've been away from youtube for like a year and half. Whether you reply or not doesn't matter to me. I just find it ridiculous that you refuse to watch my video because my tone of voice upset you somehow.
@dragonlord12100
@dragonlord12100 4 жыл бұрын
Critique on Media Arts I refuse to watch it for multiple reasons. 1 you’re tone of voice, 2, the stupid title and three, you’re pettiness of replying to a year old comment trying to stir up drama. It’s my opinion. Leave it at that and move on with your life.
@Khandaan
@Khandaan 5 жыл бұрын
How about they remake Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 instead?
@bigfanofsb653
@bigfanofsb653 3 жыл бұрын
12:18 you know like originally started off as a reboot. So your main argument for 06 is contradictory.
@sonchedgeofthehog7222
@sonchedgeofthehog7222 4 жыл бұрын
9:39 "people just go by what they think without researching it" um pretty sure that's what you did
@WolforNuva
@WolforNuva 3 жыл бұрын
He quotes a lot of interviews and linked a lot of sources for someone who didn't do any research.
@sonchedgeofthehog7222
@sonchedgeofthehog7222 3 жыл бұрын
@@WolforNuva i know i was talking about the person in the interview or forum
@WolforNuva
@WolforNuva 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sonchedgeofthehog7222 Must misunderstood then, thanks for the clarification and enjoy your day.
@Saladfork1929
@Saladfork1929 6 жыл бұрын
They are not SA3, they would be named SA3.
@tomahawk1495
@tomahawk1495 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not returning to sonic franchise until sa3, that's from sa2 being the last sonic game I really enjoyed, riders was good, I liked alot of unleashed except hating the speed levels, sa2 was the last 'good' sonic game in my opinion, personally thought it was amazing and still play it today
@Axxidous
@Axxidous 7 жыл бұрын
They give a shit about being consistent, just not to an extreme. It's at flux because it allows them the freedom to be diverse. It's like the worlds ARE always being rebooted but with a string of consistency that ties them all together. It'd be like watching a cartoon hat has a storyline but every episode is a different art style with different VA's and a different design for everything. It's almost artistic. XD Now, when I say "reboot", I mean in the way those idiots meant "Reboot" and not in the way that Sonic 06 actually WAS a reboot. lol I've said before that I think 06 could be like a prequel and not be canon due to wiping itself of existence in its own story, which later is rewritten from Sonic 1 til now. But that was never like a SERIOUS theory. It was like a possibly way to tie 06 to our official canon and still make it non-canon and having never happened. lol For the same reason, you could say Crisis City shows up in Generations because it distorts time and space, undoing and redoing everything, including previously erased events. It can undo erasing that future and reimplement it in a time/space limbo. It'd be like drawing Crisis City, then painting white over it, then painting Sonic Adventure or some shit, and then Time Eater comes and scrapes that layer of paint off and sits it on another canvas, then scrapes the white layer of paint off, and then scrapes Crisis City's image off and puts IT on another canvas. Now you have 2 new canvases with stolen images of Sonic Adventure and Crisis City, even though the original canvas was Sonic Adventure with Crisis City having no longer existed. Time Eater can do that shit. XD But in all seriousness... the game mixed a simplistic plot with the commercial idea of playing through the games of Sonic's history... no-brainer. lol
@Nathan-kr5mw
@Nathan-kr5mw 7 жыл бұрын
SonicnUnleashed was gonna originally be called Sonic adventure 3
@TEDTHETENACIOUSGUY
@TEDTHETENACIOUSGUY 4 ай бұрын
Dude he literally said that in his video, were you not paying attention
@Gamer-qw3ll
@Gamer-qw3ll 6 жыл бұрын
sonic heroes is set 6 months after sa2
@aquaboltz7272
@aquaboltz7272 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic adventure 3 is technically unleashed, in Japan it is sonic world adventure and was but the night stages ruined the whole thing, so when it came to America it was changed to unleashed cuz the werehog stages. But in Japan where it's made in kept the name adventure and ran along with it. Get it ran along, but with out night stages in America it would be called world adventure bringing a new view on the adventure series, but the sonic fan base hates change so much. Remember when sonic got "older" that didn't sit too well for the "fans" your going for what Americans think and say while Sonic Team of AMERICA responds for Japan, and Japan rolled with it because we Americans can get very rude and confused. Long story short no werehog = sawa aka sa3 meaning change also resorting to chaos pun intended and propaganda saying that it was "false advisement" plus the Wii version was more open like the og adventure stages while the remastered was more compressed like the modern games.
@terrancespells308
@terrancespells308 6 жыл бұрын
(Sarcastic voice) Sonic unleashed isn't Sonic Adventure 3 that's so surprising
@starforce1310
@starforce1310 6 жыл бұрын
CAN YOU FEEL TIME SLIPPIN DOWN YOUR SPINE!? (Continue the lyrics)
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 ай бұрын
CAN YOU FEEL THE SUNSHINE? DOES IT BRIGHTEN UP YOUR DAY? DON'T YOU FEEL THAT SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED TO RUN AWAY? REACH OUT FOR THE SUNSHINE FORGET ABOUT THE RAIN JUST THINK ABOUT THE GOOD TIMES AND THEY WILL COME BACK AGAIN!
@nibot2101
@nibot2101 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 is sonic aventure 3 and your reasons aren't good enough to convince me ( in my opinion)
@Jaysterrr
@Jaysterrr 2 жыл бұрын
Geez someone’s in denial
@jamiemariano2789
@jamiemariano2789 5 жыл бұрын
2:05 YOU GOTTA BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!!
@christophernicolaides7793
@christophernicolaides7793 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE SONIC UNLEASHED THO
@gunman8452
@gunman8452 7 жыл бұрын
Sonic unleashed had almost everything that would make it an adventure game
@SonNguyen-mt8ix
@SonNguyen-mt8ix 6 жыл бұрын
Nightwing gamer shut up the we're hog is awesome I don't care about you're shot opinion
@promiseomiponle810
@promiseomiponle810 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao so they forgot about blaze’s origin so bad that they kept going with the story development of 06 till release day?😂😂😂sonic team is such a joke fr😭incompetent mfs
@cherylmclorn8185
@cherylmclorn8185 5 жыл бұрын
But Heroes Is Continuing The Damn Story Stop Saying Its Not Related At All Did You Even Play The Adventure Games And Heroes I'm Not Saying Its Sonic Adventure 3 I'm Saying Its A Short Side Story. Reasons Its A Side Story: When Shadow Dies In SA2 In Heroes Rouge Was Talking About Shadow Dying Also Shadow Is Trying To Remember The Events Of SA2 And Some Games Continue The Story Without The Same Gameplay Aspects and sequels need the continue the events of the story. And any games having the characters of sonic adventure games Doesn't make it a sequel it must continue from the plot. Forces is Something to it's own thing and joins with generations and unleashed is it own thing and 06 is a failed reboot
@oceanstar2294
@oceanstar2294 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Heroes literally follows up on Shadow's story from SA2
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 4 ай бұрын
Heroes doesn't even have the spindash. Shadow doesn't even address the fact he died until his own game which ALSO follows up events from Adventure 2. Maria's death, Shadow's past, the world saved by Sonic and Shadow, etc. Except Shadow also has the spindash. Heroes is Adventure 2.5, Adventure 2 DLC at best. just without the bounce, glide, spindash, mechs, a completely different setting, no real story other than the plot of Sonic The Hedgehog(1991) just in HD, and Metal Sonic- HEROES IS SONIC CD 2 CONFIRMED!!
@shinysamurott613
@shinysamurott613 7 жыл бұрын
Of course they weren't. They weren't titled Sonic Adventure 3 now were they. Also... we're never getting Sonic Adventure 3. Get over it.
@critiqueonmediaarts9937
@critiqueonmediaarts9937 7 жыл бұрын
"Of course they weren't. They weren't titled Sonic Adventure 3 now were they." 1:00 - 1:42 "Also... we're never getting Sonic Adventure 3. Get over it." 14:40 - 14:49; 15:57 - 16:27
@Rubbe87
@Rubbe87 4 жыл бұрын
sonic heroes is sonic adventure 2 enigine the controls are slippery becuse the higer moving speed
@qblanson17
@qblanson17 6 жыл бұрын
I understand your frustration, but you have to understand most of these people in the comment section are kids. Literally and metaphorically.
@sampler1293
@sampler1293 5 жыл бұрын
In fact sonic 2006 was intended to be sonic adventure 3
@Jaysterrr
@Jaysterrr 2 жыл бұрын
No it wasn’t
@firesniperbullet2
@firesniperbullet2 6 жыл бұрын
heroes & unleashed NO Sonic 06 is im sorry but the similarities are to much Your vid dint address or debunk this
@critiqueonmediaarts9937
@critiqueonmediaarts9937 6 жыл бұрын
"Your vid dint address or debunk this" I'm sorry, what? Did you miss the part where I explained why Sonic 06 is very similar to the Adventure games @ 8:24?
@Jaysterrr
@Jaysterrr 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know anything about Sonic?
@az_gaming7021
@az_gaming7021 6 жыл бұрын
Eh sonic 06 seems like Sa3 because in adventure one it was just sonic and his friends the second game in the series the introduced shadow and the third to me is they introduced silver and blaze
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