Sonic Heroes (Sep 28, 2003 prototype)

[@bencorrell]

34:03 Sonic's response to Eggman speaking Japanese 😂

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

this is comedy gold

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

😂😂

[@tailsfan10]

i ThInK yOu GoT tHat bACkwArDs, dOc 🤣

[@Megaman.ExE7]

Pure racism lmaoo

[@Crysis36]

Racist sonic vs racist mario lmao

[@TetraFan1000]

This was a _HUGE_ W moment! Happy 20 Year Anniversary, Sonic Heroes!!

[@ShrikeTheHedgeog]

*21st*

[@patistheguy4813]

@@ShrikeTheHedgeogwell the game came out like a couple days before New Year’s Day lol so technically it’s just 20 rn

[@PrideEepy64]

2:18 Nintendo GameCube Controller *Uses PS2 Controller*

[@BLOODY__FATALITY]

2:16 Ah yes, refer to the Nintendo GameCube instruction booklet since there was a error deleting the save file from your PS2's memory card. Should help. Lol I love protostuff like this showing how far the progressed in porting a game.

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

LMAO!!! Please read the GameCube booklet and the Xbox safety conditions manual 😂😂

[@fawkesthefox912]

Interesting that the Goal Ring touch sound was going to be used this far back...but wouldn't be used properly until Sonic 06.

[@Buslinie57A]

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[@apurpledragon]

@@Buslinie57A Notice how nobody but you cares.

[@Buslinie57A]

@@apurpledragon Blud thinks I have a car (I can't read it's 4 am) ☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@Buslinie57A]

@@apurpledragon PS: HOW MANY VIDEOS IS THAT?!?! WTH??!

[@Buslinie57A]

@@apurpledragon WONDER FLOWERS SMOKE GUDDD

[@andrewkos5560]

Man, I don't think I ever realized how much the filter added to Omega's voice.

[@ledkicker2392]

Still very recognizable, his filter added both lower and higher frequencies to the voice

[@EAPvideoz]

Makes sense that both Seaside Hill and Rail Canyon are the only stages with music, given they were both shown at E3. I remember Iizuka saying that development was incredibly tough and they crunched incredibly hard, so you can definetely see what had priority in these last few months of development.

[@VinTheDirector]

Also they were both the levels included in the demo versions of Heroes

[@JinzoFiter]

Bullet Station had music, too. And to politely correct the other commenter, Bullet Station was featured in demos, not Rail Canyon.

[@luckyguy8547]

@@JinzoFitercoulda sworn it was rail canyon…

[@GlitchSpeedrunnerTrevor]

3:50:27, The team that developed this game's prototype Producer: Sonic Director: Tails Art Director: Shadow and (possibly) the Shadow Androids Executive Producer: Eggman Presented by SEGA Created by Sonic Team Guess the credits in the final game were not the real people 🤷‍♀

[@enriquealejandroboadasdiaz593]

XD

[@_lost_6.4_.mp4]

And HOGE1 to HOGE50

[@TerceiroLugar]

To think that now we can listen to Omega's voice actor without any effects...

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

FIRE. FIRE. FIRE.

[@HyperSonic1999orJTH]

I'm pretty sure the mkdd demo disc has that too

[@colmeiadaangela1026]

Funnily enough, they usually forget to apply the filter in like, half of his appearances after Heroes

[@tailsfan10]

G O O D.

[@GUNUFofficial]

We could do that in 06 kinda. Well the wrong effect anyway.

[@misiuthebear]

>Sonic Heroes PS2 prototype >Look inside >"Turn the power off and refer to the Nintendo GameCube instruction booklet for more infromation"

[@raidenmei9064]

Really neat that we can hear all the omega lines before the voice filter

[@SoyLuciano]

Firstly the original 1928 Mickey Mouse entering the public domain and now an early prototype of Sonic Heroes? Damn.

[@CosmicSponge2004]

I'm kinda concerned that it looked and ran like this just 3 Months before launch

[@ShadowNexa]

There’s a reason it made Iizuka deathly sick working on the game poor guy

[@takikat]

was thinking about how this looks janky and silly but understandable for a dev build before remembering that heroes released in '03 and not late '04. those poor fucking devs

[@RockingSnake99]

This is awesome! I hope we get an update on the Shadow the Hedgehog protos and one day hopefully something for 06 and another Unleashed prototype.

[@beastmode4tm]

Wait. "Another" Unleashed prototype???!??

[@RockingSnake99]

@beastmode4tm as in I hope a earlier Unleashed leaks. I don't mean as in one has been found and is coming. We already have the preview build.

[@Dairunt1]

Wait wasn't the '06 prototype the one they released? Nah but seriously, I would also love more info on the PSP version of Sonic Generations that got cancelled!

[@Roach1]

i can feel the guy physically losing braincells at the egg emperor

[@mastersonic2022]

Sonic Heroes was the 2nd Sonic game I've ever played and has since been my favorite game. It's awesome seeing a prototype being revealed after all this time.

[@youtubesurfin]

Which was the 3rd one you played though?

[@TimurSokol]

I would imagine sonic adventure or something ​@@youtubesurfin

[@youtubesurfin]

but which was their first? I must know.@@TimurSokol

[@mastersonic2022]

@@youtubesurfin: The first sonic game I ever played was Sonic The Hedgehog 1 from Sonic Mega Collection Plus. The 3rd sonic game was Sonic Riders.

[@TimurSokol]

@@mastersonic2022 Ohh I played Sonic Riders so much back in the day, one of my favorite games of all time

[@Mchenrygames]

Thanks a lot team. You never cease to amaze. What a great way to celebrate this great game's 20th anniversary.

[@Echolovania]

Truly a Hidden Palace Moment.

[@PrideEepy64]

The fact I just noticed this video is 12 hours is so a W

[@Megapig9001]

I’m shocked that this game was finished in time

[@RyneMcKinney]

Now I'm praying that Sonic 06 will get a build leaked

[@DilHark]

That'd be funny considering if it's one of the last prototypes of the game that get leaked, there's a chance the build might be better than the retail version. The retail version is actually not the last build of the game made.

[@genyakozlov1316]

​@@DilHarkThey released the version that was fully completable. The more stable builds where Sonic doesn't T pose when jumping during Mach Speed sections could have not been feature complete.

[@danyo5786]

We already have the unfinished builds

[@40kkidlock18]

@@danyo5786 what about the lost E3 build or the build of the TGS tech demo

[@GauzyGlue]

Funny story, I’ve actually heard that the 06 we got is an earlier build than the demo you can get on the Xbox and PS3 stores lol. Can’t remember if this was proven true, but I would not be surprised if it was

[@Vantoxify]

this is super cool, love all the recent dev stuff being discovered for old sonic games

[@JamesSturges]

3:50:28 PRODUCER SONIC DIRECTOR TAILS ART DIRECTOR SHADOW (HOGE00-HOGE50) EXECTIVE PRODUCER EGG MAN

[@JamesSturges]

Try Other Team Story!

[@SuperSmashBrosFan64]

Dang a new prototype on its 20th anniversary

[@Artzei]

It definitely shows how much of a rough time Sonic Team had with learning RenderWare engine, especially on PS2.

[@Pichu_Play]

What a way to kick off 2024!! Great job Hidden Palace team!!!

[@spimbles]

this has been a literal lifelong dream of mine, 20 years ive waited to see the prototype of this game in action. kid me would be so fucking stoked right now

[@marsoulini]

Wow, there was so much work done in just 3 months!

[@premydaremy]

Starting the year off with the GOATotype 🙏🏾

[@Remour]

YUHHH 🙏🙏

[@Rexicojone]

Damn right

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Anything in this video you’ll cover on your channel?

[@Crysis36]

Oh no hes here

[@Terminal_Apotos]

It’s Hilarious imagining Sonic Team Freaking out about the Game being in this State with the release date only around 3 months away.

[@ptanker9236]

Yoo a sonic prototype for 2024! Great start!

[@junglejuicejuno]

kinda glad that the square button prompt didnt flash slower than in the final as weird as it sounds, still ticks me off because it leads you to believe that you're supposed to mash when you're really supposed to just hold it

[@Meatclowndx]

Massive props to everyone for this find

[@Juropo]

Holy shit, a relic from the exact day I was born (apologies for anyone I just made feel old). Love so much about this game, it’s always fascinating to see how different games were prior to their final build.

[@Chibiknux]

Apologies accepted, this was the first Sonic game i was hyped for when i was 10

[@SageNoodleVT]

This aged me horrifically but since its Sonic i'll allow it XD

[@YujiUedaFan]

I can't believe that the prototype has quieter voices (for the one level that even has music here), while in the final you can barely even hear the music over them! OK, so lava DOESN'T one-shot you here?!

[@ledkicker2392]

But lava doesn't one-shot in Heroes, it does damage but you can escape it

[@YujiUedaFan]

@@ledkicker2392 Maybe I mistook it for Shadow the Hedgehog lava.

[@NickJamNG]

Awesome! Found it neat you could see this was sort of in between builds when the error message specifically mentions Nintendo GameCube on a PS2 build. Also, is there more info out there about Sonic Team's struggles learning a new engine? I've always felt Sonic Heroes felt very odd from a gameplay perspective coming off of two well-put-together (from a gameplay perspective, mind you) remakes of the Adventure games.

[@ItsAubreeyy]

The ports of sa1 and 2 weren’t as good as the originals

[@autosaver]

Much of the code used in Sonic Heroes was lifted from SA2. The main engine that was replaced was the graphics engine so they could make it easier to port especially to the PS2. Billy Hatcher uses the same engines from SA2

[@tgpsonic]

A detail that I love, why is sonic's model in the menus eepy like that ?! This is really cool to see, love this game

[@Shadowofskippy]

I don't know if i can complain about the 06 load times anymore.

[@lpfan4491]

Yes.

[@vegetafan9922]

The thing is load times are usually shortened after the game is finished... '06 was just shipped out while it was still in development.

[@iPlaySEGA]

Oh WOW! Thanks for sharing!

[@OmegaDrive987]

I swear this channel finds a massive prototype every new years 🎉

[@WigWoo1]

Since this build is only less than 6 months from release i think Beta would be a better name than prototype Usually prototype means it's earlier than both a beta and an alpha

[@ca_lcium]

Omega sounds odd without the filter over his voice... I like it

[@SpinningEdge]

Really interesting how rough this is compared to the GameCube build we've seen from little over a week later. I don't envy the crunch they were surely under

[@elluciano5808]

There's another gamecube prototype?

[@edvinas643]

Unlike the final PS2 release which was locked to 30fps, this one appears to be running at 60. Also, the double-input bug in the 50hz PAL version (which makes the game nearly unplayable in my opinion) is not happening in this prototype! Kind of a bummer seeing that the PS2 port could have been so much better that what we ended up getting

[@HeroesRiseUp]

Missed the stream so I was eagerly awaiting this!!! :D

[@WakkoHat]

Anyone else notice how the voice lines keep changing between the English and Japanese VA’s?

[@marcosmunoa6453]

I can't believe this!

[@ScatterbrainPete]

まさか！

[@hiyox1980]

I did tails and knuckles

[@VinTheDirector]

Nah, it completely slipped by me, good ear!

[@ConnerCoffman306]

Cool to hear Omega without the filter

[@m0dze1532]

The CGI cutscenes are in such high quality

[@spimbles]

just a couple things i immediately noticed in Seaside Hills different layout, might update with more stages if i feel like it. things may be different depending on the story, as well 18:30 booster rings that arent in that spot in the final game for Team Sonic 18:37 missing rainbow rings and platforms on both sides 18:56 missing small platform(s) 19:07 spring pad is at a different angle 19:19 missing pillar/missing breakables and launch pad, top path currently accessible in Team Sonic by the same booster ring just in a slightly different position 20:16 now removed booster ring 20:19 missing green air trooper 20:47 missing rainbow rings 21:09 missing green air trooper (should be in the middle) 21:49 more missing green air troopers

[@EmployeeAMillion]

Every day, I feel slightly luckier that I didn’t grow up with the PS2 version.

[@E123OmegaShow]

The PS2 version is perfectly fine

[@DarktheEagle]

​@@E123OmegaShowI mean, it's *fine*, but it's easily the worst version.

[@Kamaalwillingham]

In game it’s stuck to 30 fps and for some reason it still slows down

[@lpfan4491]

@@E123OmegaShow It's just as "fine" as the Shadow and Unwiished PS2-versions. Meaning that it is playable but a lot of the negative reception around the game comes from the PS2 version being the worst one by far. And I don't even like Heroes to say this, just that no game deserves the mess that were this game's PS2 and PC ports compared to the original GC and the decent Xbox port(that even has some higher quality assets).

[@KewelsBri]

I grew up with the PS2 version, and I enjoyed it. These days, I go back to the GameCube version, even on PC since the PC port has some oddities that don't sit right with me, like Metal Sonic's colors, for example. I'll only play it for mods, personally.

[@Augmentationed]

Fascinating stuff. The struggle for Team Rose to neatly finish any level is certainly a thing. I applaud the player for finally being able to get past that strange chasm in Grand Metro only to be cucked by the impassible door/ending area. Im only partially through but it seems as though in this build that Rose is the most unfinished? Unless something surprises me later on. You can tell they were really really struggling with this engine and ngl, it gives me a whole new appreciation for the crunch and stress they had to be under developing this. Also - the patter of all the feet is fucking killing me lmfaooo 😭😂 Edit: oh man, that Chaotix level that just has you repeatedly jump to your death lmfao. This poor team. I may have spoken too soon for Rose with the chaos crews second canyon level.

[@NanaKyoto]

This could just be from the way the prototype is being played off of, but, it seems to have a better framerate than the retail PlayStation 2 version, interesting. (especially considering the PlayStation 2 version was the one I grew up with)

[@BoltsRolow]

15:52 what did Tails see to make his eyes look so soulless?

[@ledkicker2392]

Some shit

[@VinTheDirector]

Knuckles taking off his gloves

[@GuyDude-hk8uy]

He looked himself up on DeviantArt. Poor guy.

[@epicness877]

I love how the first thing that happens is a loop not working

[@prizedcoffeecup]

35:15 Me when I forget to go do something until its too late

[@romalapin8648]

34:04 My updated transcript: Japanese Dr. Eggman:Hohoho! It's useless to rebel. I hope you perish here and become the laughing stock of the world! English Sonic:Hmph! I think you got that backward, doc! Japanese Sonic:What the...? But, I was gonna talk with him... Original (or old): Japanese Dr. Eggman:Hohoho! Your struggle is all for nothing. Once we're done here, you'll become the laughing stock all across the world! English Sonic:Hmph! I think you got that backward, doc! Japanese Sonic:What the?.. I thought I was gonna talk with him.

[@CYPH3RsD0M41N]

Playstation icons? Gamecube memory card? Yup. It's the prototype, alright..

[@pinkmysteryman]

this prototype makes me imagine a ps1 port of sonic heroes bc holy shit it is SO EMPTY AND DEPRESSING :sob:

[@GameFreak839]

Hearing the voices jump from Japanese to English repeatedly is really funny for how much tonal whiplash it gives 😭 It probably has to do with a good chunk of lines not being recorded yet and they had to use others as placeholders, but it's still fairly jarring either way

[@Rman1228]

It's also interesting how compressed many of the sounds are compared to the final English voice lines that can be heard occasionally in the prototype. Man, Sonic Team was crunching for REAL back then 😭

[@GauzyGlue]

@@Rman1228That reminds me, I remember hearing somewhere that Iizuka spent an unhealthy amount of time working on this game when other team members were sick? I may be wrong, but I do remember hearing something like this somewhere

[@Amro_games]

​@GauzyGlue If I remember correctly, Heroes had 2 level designers, Iizuka and someone else. During later stages of development, the other designer got pretty sick, so Iizuka had to crunch towards the end. He ended up not sleeping and losing 22 pounds in the process.

[@ScatterbrainPete]

@@GauzyGlue You must be thinking of the Golden Bolt's Sonic video.

[@Rman1228]

@@GauzyGlue you probably heard this from The Golden Bolt's video, which is true unfortunately 😭

[@MrMegaManFan]

Nice find! Congratulations!

[@Greatfox54]

God now I see why this video is 13 hours long. Look at these load times! Yikes. Also I haven't seen the embodiment of pure fear until I saw 16:16

[@jamstarr]

neo metal just making the same “ygurr..” sound cracks me up

[@jennyholiday88]

Ok it's not the final build. There going to fix it up, right? *There going to fix it up, right?* *THERE GOING TO FIX IT UP, RIGHT?* *RIGHT???*

[@Chilidogs-ku9ql]

06:

[@JulianR2JG]

Happy 20th Heroes!

[@Tripple_777-3]

i love this games ui so much

[@lilrobofella9500]

It's a fever dream listening to unfiltered Omega

[@rabbitrun777]

more like sonic He Rose, because you are a God for uploading these

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Its quite interesting that they planned to have the sound effect for when you touch the goal ring as early as heroes, kinda makes me wish they kept it in the final version, it really adds to the accomplishment of beating a level💍

[@CrimsonNeo]

What is the music that plays in Team Chaotix cutscene? I don't think it's "Team Chaotix" ( the theme).

[@neonlightillusion]

Wow, that must be a placeholder from another source. It’s definitely not Sonic Heroes (or at least in the final OST)!

[@CyclonX]

its Bullets by Creed. thank you so much for pointing that out though cuz now we know Creed was in a Sonic game LMFAO

[@BFAYW]

2:47:21 What happpened there?

[@greenstarforce001]

Someone should rip Omega's voice clips from this prototype so we can hear them more clearly

[@animeist72]

And it plays at 60 fps is the odd thing

[@SarahWestCrazyTaxiQueen]

Good work

[@pynkkheartz]

I would do anything to play sonic heroes again.. I never got to beat it when I was younger

[@vanitymirrorss]

This is so weird, at some points with the jagged graphics plus the crunchy audio at places, it kinda feels like a PS1 game.

[@epitomicmess]

They need to port this game to modern hardware already. We've had adventure ports forever. I wanna play this bad boy on my PS5

[@ebreezy3431]

Cybershell has a job to do now.

[@whynotll83]

I skipped to 55:49 and got jumpscared by yoko ono, is amy making that noise?

[@TheSnickers04]

This is Cream

[@laugon5547]

HELL YEAH ANOTHER SONIC PROTOTYPE FOUND AND IM EARLY LETS GOOO

[@mann-nova9392]

Well this is a fun surprise! I like the original version of Rail Canyon.

[@KenMasters.]

Heroes should've been Sonic Adventure 3 RPG. Where the gameplay is similar to both Sonic Adventure 1 and Kingdom Hearts. But I do like the idea of switching between speed, flight and power characters.

[@iscream4761]

6:39 sonic can't stand the tutorial's length anymore 😂😂

[@kyaban5192]

Let's go dude!!

[@myrmeko]

08:54:20 What an "average size" canon. 😂

[@GUNUFofficial]

Let this not distract from the fact they found 12 RAYMAN 3 GBA PROTOTYPES IN THE SAME DAY!

[@adamspeiser6449]

Eggman: spouts nonsense to the English audience Sonic: "I THINK YOU GOT THAT BACKWARDS DOC"

[@ritaandrunt5767]

I wonder if there are any other prototype builds for sonic hero's or is this the only one that is known and has been found ? If there are any other prototype builds that are known to exist for this game here's hoping that they eventually get found It's also surreal knowing that this game celebrated It's 20th anniversary at the start of this year because of this game holds a very special place in my heart and hopefully more people will come to appreciate this game dispite its glaring and noticeable issues that many sonic fans are quick to point out and mention but with all that being said Happy 20th Anniversary To Sonic Hero's

[@salt20xX]

the final ps2 version was already "meh", imagine this

[@Prodigalfur]

The amount of times I kept falling due to these controls on the ps2 I wish they redid or updated the grathics on the ps2 to make live more easier like the original xbox

[@dngr_4209]

New Year, New Find

[@strangevision99]

This is just the final PS2 build. I guess they just released the prototype.

[@16Arson]

“I’m falling!” says a poorly voiced Fox who can literally FLY.

[@ScatterbrainPete]

Maybe he's just a big fan of the Offspring.

[@de606returns6]

Woah, this kinda caught me off guard cuz I was literally binging the Sonic Prototype Streams today since I learned about them through TetraBit gaming, but alright, let's see some Sonic Heroes Prototype stuff

[@GPP.Artwork]

I love sonic heroes so much im still waiting for a official steam port😢

[@jonatanp.1976]

Great stuff

[@Mud-Brain]

you're telling me the published build wasn't a prototype?

[@joeblow2286]

lol 3:51:05 the way they're all just standing there starring blankly forward at the character select screen is creepy pasta bait. I can see it now: "I found a disc that had 'sonic heroes prototype' written on it in marker so I brought it home and put it in my GameCube expecting to hear the cheery menu music, but it was completely silent, when I went to choose my team they weren't in their usual poses... they were all facing forward just starring at me...MENACINGLY! Suddenly the screen went red and Shadow appeared behind me and whispered in my ear 'Shrek is love, Shrek is life...this is my swamp it's all ogre now' then he turned me over and did unspeakable things to me...."

[@VinTheDirector]

“Nothing personnel, kid…”

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

"You got the whole squad laughing"

[@Shima33BB]

Wait, is Neo Metal Sonic/Metal Madness/Overlord simply not in this prototype?

[@jakejacobson5551]

‏‪3:16:20‬‏ SONUCKLES

[@blturn]

3:55:45 Jesus christ

[@apurpledragon]

Do the battles where you go against the cpu controlling a team not work? Because there's no gameplay of that at all, so I'm assuming they don't have any AI programmed to control them yet?