Sonic Omens Sucked, But Triple Trouble Remade Was Great!

[@NoahNCopeland]

Hiya! Thank you for playing and showcasing our game, STT 16-bit. I'm glad you liked it! I also like when I see Fallen Star get love too.❤

[@henrykado]

@@wjefoiafjalfkjadfjk7045 ?

[@HordikaNate3821]

You're an absolute gigachad for what you've done with TT16bit, amazing job

[@dachel683]

@@wjefoiafjalfkjadfjk7045 why did you say that?

[@Tenna5468]

congrats on the game, your hard work really paid off well

[@Emb3rOnline]

When you get the chance or have time, can you make the game available for IOS and Samsung?

[@swmedia2]

So fun fact about Omens: You CAN actually focus on the boss fights by clicking in the left analog stick. But uh... WHY IS THIS NEVER MENTIONED IN THE GAME!?!?!?

[@AquaFan1998]

Why wasnt it the default? Like have it focus and have the choice to unfocus it be optional

[@aniceguy2111]

in my game it told me that tho

[@magical_pixie_horse7346]

It's mentioned in the first boss

[@DesignDoc]

It's been one hell of a year for both Sonic fan games and Sonic adjacent indie games. In addition to TT 16-bit and Fallen Star, we also got Freedom Planet 2 and Spark The Electric Jester 3 which are both fantastic 2d and 3d Sonic style games respectively that I highly recommend to everyone here (ESPECIALLY FP2). We never got that Mania follow up but the community picked up the slack for sure.

[@yuchun_]

Honestly I'm surprised he _hasn't_ talked about Spark considering how it's Sonic and Megaman X combined, legitimately seems like a match made in heaven in this case...and in any case, since they play like sex.

[@thetreyceratops]

I like Freedom Planet 2 more than any 2D Sonic game personally, it’s incredible

[@DesignDoc]

@@thetreyceratops That is a 100% fair statement. It's probably in the top 3 for me. Doesn't quiiite beat Mania but it's gunning for it.

[@miimiiandco]

I've been wanting to play Spark for a while now.

[@yuchun_]

@@miimiiandco No better time than now, the whole trilogy is on sale for 16 dollars, what a steal!

[@JuanRamirez-nz6rs]

Yo, I'm the box artist for the Triple Trouble remake! Never thought I'd see my work being used for your videos(let alone as thumbnail art); your channel is one of my faves to watch on KZbin!

[@JsReviews]

Wow, didn't see this coming either. You did a great job!

[@DonutSwordsman]

@@JsReviews probably should credit him huh

[@solidskullz5736]

Sonic omens is weird. When I first heard about it everyone was praising it and talking about how it was the best sonic fan game and then like a month later I saw everyone hating on it. No idea what happened there

[@mastertjt56]

A ton of things happened bro, the greed of the developers trying to profit off of this game, the odd files of the Maria model having lingerie, the unfair or unnecessary long boss fights (besides the final boss which legit the only decent one), the story starting off interesting but then fell off into terrible fanfiction ideas (even some fanfictions have better storytelling), the voice acting being iffy (some defenders try to pass it off as "it's only a fangame" when if the voice acting sucks then don't do it or improve), the devs being brats and not handling criticism properly, glitches, the devs blocking people for not agreeing that Omens is the best Sonic fangame, and the list goes on. That's only to name a few of the things that had happened over the length of Sonic Omens appearance

[@erikbihari3625]

@@mastertjt56If it'd be offical, would you consider it worse or equally bad as Shadow?

[@vazazell5967]

@@mastertjt56 name me one of those badly executed fanfictiony ideas

[@legacytv2453]

@@vazazell5967 Maria's lingerie keeps falling off due to bad programming

[@nottoofast]

@@vazazell5967 Chris.

[@theanimatedone2313]

Personally, I'd feel like a proper view of P-06, as well as the full view of J's Sonic Timeline and Tier List proper would help all this come full circle.

[@goranisacson2502]

I support this sentiment, if only because I had no idea this project even existed and now that I do I think sn infornative video on it would be super-cool

[@gManGabe]

@@Thenumber1yoshi _shhhhhh let people enjoy things_

[@gManGabe]

@@Thenumber1yoshi Didn't say it was good, I said don't think less of the guy for liking it.

[@arjunmenon1796]

@@Thenumber1yoshi You have absolutely terrible taste.

[@JsReviews]

Dude...are you okay? You are on the internet whining about "good taste vs bad taste" in regards to a four year old Mega Man video that is privated anyway. Also being mad about something I've never said: "Sonic 06 is good". I don't believe that. As that two hour video stated, I think 06 is a buggy ass, unfinished mess with some characters in it that are borderline unplayable. That video was far more nuanced than that, but okay. I've never actually seen a Project-06 detractor actually say what it does wrong other than "yOu cAn'T fIX tHIs! beSt nOt EvEN tRy!" When I could point to a multitude of things that makes P06 one of the most fun Sonic games I've played, and a multitude of reasons as to why 06 original is a shameful disgrace of a video game. I don't usually respond to stuff like this, but I figured I'd make an exception here.

[@haha_hollie]

as someone that's been subbed to your channel for over half a decade at this point, it was really an honor to see you talking about a game i worked on! fallen star's soundtrack is something i worked really hard on and i'm really glad to hear you enjoyed it :)

[@Turbulation1]

That's great, its pretty damn good soundtrack, so it defiantly feels good for your hard work to pay off.

[@aquatheechidna5137]

True final boss is the Sonic version of Senator Armstrong (MGRR) or Minos Prime / Sisyphus Prime (ULTRAKILL)

[@YTSirBlack]

The Fallen Star felt like the spiritual successor to the LakeFeperd's Sonic fangames

[@gommodore6441]

I was just about to say it gave off some heavy After the Sequel vibes especially with the cutscenes

[@Onaterdem]

100%. LakeFeperd's games are GOATed so The Fallen Star gets a free pass from me.

[@WaffleYabbler]

LakeFepered made his own games now and they’re Sonic inspired. They’re called Spark the electric jester. Play them right now!

[@YTSirBlack]

@@WaffleYabbler i don't have Steam, i wish the trilogy comes to Switch eventually.

[@LinkMaster-d5b]

Question: is before and after the sequel good? That and triple trouble 16-bit?

[@Abridgedspeed]

I would absolutely LOVE to see you cover more sonic fan games!

[@erikbihari3625]

How about This:-"m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqKlaqeQp7dperM But especially THIS:-"m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZO2nYpsjL2WbKc!

[@ameerashourdraws]

It would be amazing to see you cover fan projects the Sonic community is capable of

[@keybladeoverlord]

I do like the idea of a mini-series looking at other Sonic fan games, because there are lot of other great ones like Sonic GT which is probably the one I like most despite its short length.

[@Shad809]

I really enjoyed this grabbag style, would love to see more of it with Sonic or other games. I think it'd be really neat to see videos of you speedrunning P06, with the tactics you use for each stage.

[@8squared007]

Huh. A controversial 3D Sonic game that originally looked extremely promising but that disappointed fans upon release, releasing around the same time as a well-received, 16-bit Sonic game that reimagines elements that made Sonic games wholly unique in the first place, in intuitive and exciting ways. Where have I seen this before…

[@HordikaNate3821]

Never thought of that

[@kingslayerkoshy]

I would definitely like to see a marathon or mini series for fan games.

[@ProtectorOfMemes]

Man, Triple Trouble 16-Bit was one hell of a good time when I got around to playing it, it truly was the direct sequel to 3&K we never got.

[@slimgrim3607]

its sure was. but then i remember how the sonic chaos 16 remake never came to fruition and become sad. but still, the triple trouble 16 bit remake was amazing too

[@raheemwilliams7277]

I loved it! I know of the sonic fangames but am personally never sure about which are worth playing or not. I definitely feel like your opinions on them and reviews are exactly that little push I (and maybe others) need to commit and enjoy these new experiences!

[@ultimate4323]

I remember thinking that the story was gonna be the strangest part of Sonic Omens when it came out. Little did i know, things were gonna get a lot worst.

[@reallylongusername390]

Honestly, Chris being part of the plot is the most NORMAL part of the whole game. But then they added in all this other stuff, trying to tie this into Sonic unleashed and it went from psuedo fanfic to complete fanfic with awful gameplay on top of it.

[@mastertjt56]

@@reallylongusername390 Chris was okay but the whole trying to reference and combine lore from other games into one big together was way too fanfiction like. Hell there are even some amazing fanfictions but this is one of those terrible ones

[@sezunemizuhana3870]

@@mastertjt56 Sega finally acknowledged that Sonic games take place in one world with humans and anthros coexisting. And Omens is like nah and tries to shove stupid Sonic x into the games universe. No thanks.

[@minty6623]

I remember when the team said that the story was going to explore why sonic and his friends don't use the chaos emeralds since you don't ever see them in Colors, Lost World, and then Forces. Of course, the team said that the story was going to take place after unleashed and nothing else but trying to include elements from Sonic X felt like a mess even though the metarex alone was cool and all

[@LoliconSamalik]

@@sezunemizuhana3870 Does this also mean that Sonic Forces is also non-canon?!?!

[@xsonicdragon]

I'd be really interested if you covered any of the significant stage mods made for Forces and Generations, like the upcoming Sonic Forces Re:Imagined stages or the upcoming Frozen Hill stage for Generations. I definitely would also love to see your opinion on the Spark the Electric Jester series, which was made by a former Sonic fan-game developer and the whole series is currently on sale for 58% (only available on Steam).

[@Tenna5468]

A coverage on Spark would be nice lol as it happens to be one of my favorite trilogies of all time.

[@Bengt2509]

In sonic omens Chris Thorndyke looks like Sora from Kingdom hearts

[@azurezakura]

I'd definitely love to see more fan game coverage. Games like Sonic GT, Sonic Dimensions, or Sonic Riders DX are some of my favorites to play.

[@theimpersonator7086]

Cool to see you highlight more of the Sonic fangame community, both the good and the bad. If fangames shows us anything imo is that good Sonic level design is exceptionally difficult to create, whether it be 2D or 3D or Momentum Pinball Physics/Boost, in comparison to other Platform mascots like Mario, Crash, Rachet, etc. There are so many pitfalls and traps that one must avoid ranging from automated linear hallways to punishing trial error where the player is going to fast to reasonably react to hazards/enemies. Traditional platform-level gimmicks like Ice, Water, Anti Gravity also must be heavily considered as they can severely mess and jank Sonic's control.s Plus the often-cited 3 pillars of Sonic: Speed, Platforming, and Exploration also are in tension and relying on one at the expense of the other will alienate Sonic fans.

[@JustAnotherMike_]

I hadn't heard of Fallen Star, but I loved the look of it from this video. I downloaded it and have been playing it the last couple hours and have been having a blast! I love the flow of the game and how many times the "punishment" of the lower path is the time it takes to rejoin the upper path, as opposed to some games where once you mess up once the upper path is lost forever The soundtrack is also banging and like I said, I love the animations. Thanks for bringing this game to light for me!

[@SaddieMoon]

I’m shocked you didn’t mention the two unlockable characters in TT16B Fang & Metal

[@redacculous]

Might have been for spoiler reasons, since iirc you have to beat the game as Knuckles to unlock them, which you can only do after beating the game as Sonic and Tails (I believe with all of the Chaos Emeralds?)

[@skip-4259]

@@redacculousKnuckles is unlocked for beating Sonic’s story, Metal is unlocked for beating Knuckles’ story, Fang is unlocked for beating S/T with all chaos emeralds

[@zhaoyun255]

I would love for you to tackle on Freedom Planet 1 and 2. The games were a Sonic fan game first then became its own thing.

[@kingjiggle4th789]

Based comment

[@HordikaNate3821]

The Spark the Electric Jester trilogy would be awesome too

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Probably your best video in a bit, I will have to absolutely try the Triple Trouble 16bit remake and get back into P06, maybe even try that gorgeous fallen star game too.

[@thomased22legoyodagaming]

If you liked TT 16-bit, you should check out Sonic Time Twisted! It's my personal favorite fangame of all time. I replay it once a year. The game's whole aesthetic and whatnot are based around it being a theoretical Sega Saturn sequel to S3&K. It's got a time travel mechanic, but it's pretty different from Sonic CD. There's only Future, and Past, and you travel between them just by running into one of the time posts fast enough. Each time zone having it's own music and level layout. I won't spoil any more than that! But you'd like it. A certain blue metal man is pretty important to the plot. I will note, the fangame is technically pretty old, but it still gets updated to fix bugs and add QOL on a semi regular basis. It's good stuff. You won't regret checking it out!

[@GottaBeFrank]

Watching J play P-06 is quite the sight. Great video, man.

[@HordikaNate3821]

That game in general is quite the sight

[@thejedisonic67]

Never would've expected these three games to be talked about in the same video

[@KoalaSpace360]

Comparing Sonic & the fallen star to Sonic omens is like comparing Sonic mania to Sonic forces where the 2d game is the winner

[@SethFrostV]

Would love to see more grab-bag type videos, thanks for showing off STT & Sonic and the Fallen Star! Can't wait to try them

[@HordikaNate3821]

Never played Omens but the Triple Trouble remake is so damn good, it's literally the AM2R of Sonic. Fallen Star is great too I'm also looking forward to the Silver release of P-06, I was scared the project was canceled but...well the backhalf of this year is going to be insane with how much is dropping, I'm gonna have a lot to sink my teeth into in between school

[@erikbihari3625]

The what now?

[@HordikaNate3821]

@@erikbihari3625 That remake of Metroid 2 Nintendo took down a few years ago

[@LasagaMan]

Oh you mean the one that played like super metroid becuase the fanbase can't get over everything being super metroid?

[@GottaBeFrank]

@@LasagaMan It was based on Metroid Zero Mission.

[@SleepyDonnnn]

@@LasagaMan Ur acting like its a sin to have a preference plus the only metroid games usually panned are other m and federation force

[@AdamTheHedgehog]

You really owe it to yourself to give Sonic Robo Blast 2 a shot. It's a 3D Sonic game built off the freaking *Doom Legacy Engine*. It's been in development since '98, making it not only the first 3D Sonic Fan Game, but the oldest, too! And it's still getting updates to this day--people make character and level mods, and it's gotten to the point where total conversions like SRB2 Kart and SRB2 Persona exist to turn the game into a racing game or a Persona title. Legitimately nuts.

[@DragonStar524]

Have Sega release the P-06 version of Sonic the Hedgehog, and we'll finally get the 15th anniversary masterpiece we deserved.

[@rexdavis12]

I’m all for these type of videos. If you can’t get next video out, you can put another one of these out to better/finish the current project. Keep up the great work!!

[@noah_ignis]

This video was really good and I would love to see more of your thoughts on Sonic Fan games. There are some other games I would like for you to cover one day that being Freedom Planet 1 and 2 and the Spark the electric Jester games I think you'll have a lot of fun

[@CSS-Tails_Forever]

Great video J! I think Triple Trouble 16-Bit is a great game! I love the music especially!

[@Shane_Leath]

Before watching this video I played Omens and got to G.U.N. Arsenal before calling it quits for the night and yeah the do-or-die platforming was really getting aggravating. I like the "webslinging" Sonic can do with Chip's necklace, it's a fun and fast way of keeping Sonic moving in the air; speaking of the fact that the camera is tied to the mouse makes for a fun "floor is lava" kind of challenge going from spring to enemy to websling and on and on. Omens I think could really be helped by controller support however, especially with Shadow since using the number key to switch between his abilities is clunky and while WASD works when you've got room to move around in it's not optimal we'll say for a level like G.U.N. Arsenal.

[@erikbihari3625]

J, think I read on tv tropes that Sonic X was big in russia, so it explains plenty of omens' blunders including having russian voice actors trying(and in shadow's case failing) to Sound american.

[@goranisacson2502]

As someone who didn't even know Sonic Omens was a thing before this video, are the people behind it (musicians, directors, programmers etc) also russian?

[@erikbihari3625]

@@goranisacson2502Probably.

[@ZacharyDietze]

Triple Trouble 16 Bit is definitely the Sonic CD of Sonic 3 and Mania. (In that CD is the true sequel before 2 even though that also came out after) It’s objectively the best classic styled Sonic fan game of all time simply because it captures the feel and level design of the Genesis games its based on. I know it’s cheating a little since it’s supposed to be a remake of an already official game, but you can’t deny that the few new things it does is spot on. I don’t care if you’re a purist or will play anything, this game is definitely canon to me in my eyes and is now just as essential as Sonic 1, CD, 2, 3 & Knuckles, and Mania. Praise like this for a fan game from me does not normally happen, so bravo to everyone involved. I also hope that this means that Fang the Sniper will finally take off as an actual character in popularity and other fan games. It’s no coincidence that all of the best classic styled fan games actually use him in some way, (This, SRB2, the upcomig X-treme remake, and the upcoming Sonic Galactic whixh looks like a sequel to Mania, so I’m *really* looking forward to what they will do with that one) he’s easily the best underutilized character from the classic series alongside Mighty and Ray, and to a lesser but inevitable extent Sally since SEGA pulled a Thanos and wiped her from existence after the Archie comics were rudely cancelled. Speaking of Sally though, that reminds me of the fact that there’s also a fan made SATAM season 3 going to be made, which is even more bonkers to me since animation is extremely hard work. Fallen Star unlike even Galactic is definitely a different take on 2D Sonic though, which I don’t mind. It makes it stand out a little more with its own identity because of that, so I respect that. I still like the structure of the Genesis styled games more, but the gameplay shift done here is a neat one. Sure it makes the game easier overall, but it’s sort of like a mix between the classics and the more “modern” feel of games like Colors. And although the art style is different, I gotta give props to the fluid animations as you mentioned. Galactic looks to have that perfect balance of fluid animation with the more classic-ish art style, but this is still a good take nonetheless. It’s pretty memorable if nothing else. I’m not sure what to think about Omens. On one hand it isn’t a *terrible* fan game from a sort of technical standpoint, but on the other there have just simply been much better 3D fan games in comparison, stuff like World DX and GT for example come up and, although much more simpler than games like Adventure 1 and 2, are still genuinely fun. The fact that a Sonic 06 remake is better than something more “ambitious” like Omens is surprising to me, and the controversies surrounding it do it no favors. Even without all the comparisons and drama though, I think it’s just poorly designed overall. Stuff like weird voice acting is one thing, (Which Omens also has) but gameplay thst just doesn’t make it feel fun is what really kills it for me. Most Sonic games, good and bad, always have some standout thigs to say about them and to remember them for. Omens though is extremely forgettable and unbalanced, and not in a funny haha way like glitchy Sonic 06, or something to take lessons from like Adventure DX, Colors Ultimate, or Origins. It may as well not even exist. It’s like what KingK once said for Pac-Man World 3, it’s a chore and complete waste of time, which makes it even worse as a video game than a broken one to make fun of. It’s nothing but frustrating work that results in nothing interesting. I do feel bad for any of the people who got mistreated or ignored though, because as far as other fan games go most people *do* have a genuine passion for making good games and content unlike whoever was primarily responsible for Omens here. That’s another thing I want to bring up, necause regardless of what dumb business decisions SEGA makes, they still let us have fun and pour our souls into something, which I can say more for than a certain anti-emulation/preservation and anti-fan creation company that uses a middile aged Italian plumber as their mascot… TLDR: Triple Trouble 16 Bit transcends simple fan game territory to the point of being an official midpoint between 3 & Knuckles and Mania, Fallen Star is a nice change of formula, and Omens is a disappointing and forgettable mess. *Sorry for the ginormous amount of text, I know no one cares lol.*

[@SaiKisaragi]

Thank you for covering these fan games. I’m a closeted Sonic fan, so I really don’t sleuth around for fan games. You and Antdude are going ham in terms of covering these internet gems :)

[@abdulazizalabdulkareem1380]

I WANT THIS TO BE A SERIES SO BADLY THIS VIDEO IS SO GODAMN GOOD, THERES SO MANY FAN GAMES YOU COULD TALK ABOUT sonic time twisted, sonic robo blast 2, after the sequel/before the sequel, all the christian whitehead games literally theres so much potential in this

[@playbossthebest936]

I would definetly love more videos like this one!

[@mr.vanillamilkshake3]

Shame about Sonic Omens' camera trouble with the final boss. From my watching a KZbin video of the game by Blue Vivacity (eg. the definitive experience), the spectacle was amazing. Also, "Weight of the World" is definitely among my favourite Final Boss tracks, and I really hope it gets covered someday, either by GillStudio, RichaadEB ft. Caleb Hyles and Jonathan Young, or FalKKonE ft. Rena. Then again, I haven't heard the draft boss theme yet, but I hope to find the time.

[@zfalcon44]

Amazing video! Thanks for sharing your opinions on those games. I would be interested in hearing more!

[@SpeedStar1642]

If you do have room for indie games, do check out the Spark The Electric Jester series made by the same guy who did the Sonic Before/After The Sequel and Chrono Adventure fangames! As of 10/7/2022, it's on sale on Steam!

[@cliffturbo2146]

Or Freedom Planet 2. One of the best games of this year!

[@keithfernandez8546]

I’m glad your doing pretty well J. I’m happy your doing reviews of Sonic Fan Games. I wish you well on doing a review on Sonic boom rise of lyrics. A game you could say that it like the Sonic the hedgehog version of secret agent clank. A game you despise the most in your last year review.

[@alexmcneill6445]

If it weren't for the fact that I had watched this vid, I wouldn't have known you looked at Sonic and the Fallen Star! I think Fallen Star needs a little more recognition since it's a fantastic game. If you hadn't already, I'd recommend you play Sonic: Before the Sequel and Sonic: After the Sequel (and maybe Sonic Chrono Adventure). These are well known fan games made by LakeFepard who'd go on to make his original IP in Spark the Electric Jester. Sonic and the Fallen Star definitely takes after BTS and ATS with cutscenes before and after every zone, the atmosphere of the game, and all. (Sonic Chrono Adventure would be Lake's last Sonic fan game and it's... kinda like a Metroidvania? It's certainly unique for a Sonic game, kinda giving me Tails Adventure vibes) Also, glad you talked abut Omens. Because man... The controversy just steered me away and I had no desire to really look into the controversy or the game itself which is a shame. Game's controversy aside, there were definitely people on the team who were genuinely passionate and I know when the first demo came out, people were praising the heck out of it from the YT Vids I saw. But now it's in this state. Oof.

[@minty6623]

As someone who is a huge fan of the Infinity Engine Framework, I was not only HUGELY disappointed for not only the game, the drama behind it from the team, and controversies but also for ruining the reputation of the framework itself. A huge slap in the face for me but what has happened, happens. On the HUGE positive note, P-06, Triple Trouble 16-bit, and the Fallen Star are the holy trinity for this year's sonic fangames so I'm glad J just presented pretty straightforward with omens since like he said, he'd rather have a video where it's mostly positive

[@wesleyprower]

TT 16 bit also gonna get a mobile version soon, can't wait for it because I don't have a PC

[@cblake4111]

I personally like Omens for what it is. The visuals, atmosphere and gameplay are great, the bosses are cool and the music is awesome. True, there are a few minor bugs, some of the writing is a bit off (though I mainly blame SEGA for not always setting the rules and boundaries about Sonic's world and how it works), about half the voice acting isn't great, and some of the devs are honestly pricks. But I still like it all the same, flaws and all. That being said, I also think that Triple Trouble was good as well, Copeland and his team did an impressive job modernizing the game, including the addition of Fang and Rocket Metal; they did a great job of making a spin-off I didn't find impressive to actually become something cool.

[@shitanotosaurus]

to the comment that said sonic omens is like p-06, please rethink that thought omens doesn't have nearly the amount of polish p-06 has

[@shitanotosaurus]

@@leonardoalvarenga7572 alright you know what? cool. I'm not gonna bother with this debate, if thats what you truly think, you do you man I'm not gonna complain.

[@LinkMaster-d5b]

Can I say, p-06 has so much more polish than omens, sonic got did it better, and the devs are making an original game, rollin rascal

[@Gnidel]

I would be interested in videos about: - LakeFeperd's series: Sonic Before the Sequel, Sonic After the Sequel, Sonic Before the Sequel Aftermath, Sonic Chrono Adventure. - Spark the Electric Jester series (3 games, first one is 2D, 2 and 3 are 3D) - Freedom Planet series

[@seba2366]

looking at the life Icons I bet the tag mechanic was lifted from "Classic Heores" from all places

[@bananabike279]

Sonic fangames have been getting better and better! I like to think that Sega is starting to recognize their quality while realizing at the same time their own games take longer to make, so maybe the reason they won't take down any fangames is so that fans can keep themselves busy until the next mainline Sonic game comes out/ That being said, please do more types of videos like this one! It's a great way to cover multiple games in shorter bursts and fangames need all the attention they can get!

[@ShadowXeldron]

I wouldn't mind you trying out some more fan games! SRB2 is my personal favourite (and probably my most replayed game, like, ever) since it proves the sheer versatility of the Doom Engine whilst also having plenty of unlockables, a HUGE modding scene, online netgames with up to 32 players (expect lots of lag if you do go the 32-player route though!), a very good soundtrack, super low system requirements so it'll run on anything and NiGHTS into Dreams styled special stages. It's definitely an acquired taste though, since it's capped at 35 FPS, defaults to the worse looking and more CPU intensive software renderer and has 2D sprites on a 3D plane (although if you switch to the hardware accelerated OpenGL renderer then you do get the option of 3D models).

[@wildberrysherbert3803]

As of SRB2 version 2.11 you can make the game run at a higher framerate.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

Omens being a controversial disaster and Frontiers as potentially well-received thanks to press from multiple expos and even winning an award is gonna be the BIGGEST UNO REVERSE CARD to the whole *“SONIC FANS MAKE BETTER GAMES THEN SONIC TEAM”* mentality. Please do cover more Sonic Fangames, I’d love to hear your thoughts on Sonic 3D Blast in 2D and it’s Saturn DLC!

[@dachel683]

Hopefully. Mania was great but I swear it gave the sonic community a huge ego

[@dachel683]

@@leonardoalvarenga7572 you're joking right

[@chronoblue418]

Would love to hear more coverage of fan games. One I'd like to see you cover is Sonic Dimensions, it's a 2d boost style game in the same vain as the rush series. Also though it's it's own series now I'd also like to hear your thoughts on the Spark The Electric Jester series.

[@thewinterwarriormane]

1:27 Finally someone gave some love to Sonic 2D blast. I am also looking forward to playing Sonic Triple Trouble 16-bit too!

[@masteroftheocarina2709]

So I played the full version of Omens before hearing anything about the development team. I had a pretty decent time (at first) and the first three stages were actually a lot of fun. The Egg Dragon fight did suck but the stages so far were fun so I kept going mainly for the stages. While I didn't hate any of the Sonic and shadow stages you could see the drop in quality. They just became more frustrating than fun and the controls didn't help at all. The first flying section was miserable and the boss was trash. Everything past Sonic's first three stages was not good. The physics sucked and the stage design felt like it was made to make you frustrated. It also took me about 4 hours to get through the second flying stage. And the final boss was really disappointing. There's one thing about the game that I liked across the board and that's the music. The final boss music is just so good. Some of the stage concepts probably sounded good on paper but 90% of them were poorly executed. Did I have fun? Yeah a bit. Is the music good? Yes. Is it worth playing? God no.

[@Woodenfan]

I can't wait to see you cover Project Sonic 06 in full once it's fully released - this looks so cool!

[@slimysalesman4443]

would absolutely love do see you cover more fan projects this was fun

[@jakieboi1117]

Continue making videos like these! I like just the grab bag of sonic fan games and you giving your thoughts on them

[@alexandrpeterberg390]

Are you covering the Sonic Fan games? That does it, you got to do Freedom Planet content. Especially now that Freedom Planet 2 has been released this year.

[@machpf]

Love this videos format, would definitely love to see more fangame reviews in the short video format!

[@ace360driver]

Hey J just letting you know that fallen stars spindash has been more balanced now but the tripple trouble has been polished to perfection, you can see noah copelands video on the final update, its safe to say now its as perfect as it can be

[@RealHyperHedgehog]

I think Omens was a necessary evil. So we could finally stop hearing “Sega hire” every time a Sonic fan game maker breathes. We should have kicked that trend down long ago.

[@ItzGlitchyy]

I really enjoyed omens, thought the gameplay was really cool, I liked the story though I didn’t 100% understand it, since I never finished sonic x as a kid, I should go back and rewatch it sometime

[@gareckthetailor9918]

the whole sonic 06 pc project is some nutty ass shit in the best possible way :)

[@autobotproductions1244]

I would love to see you cover more fan stuff. Not just games but other stuff like Nazo Unleashed and Sonic and Tails R

[@daviddyster4145]

Nice video, I would like if you could also review Sonic's animated outings.

[@heynavi8368]

Hai please make more content like this it both boosts the creators projects attention thus leads to feedback and reactions and it's also a new form of content to make since we get to hear your thoughts. This video was very swaggy and I'd love to see more

[@shrobbyy]

2022 is a great Sonic year and the fangame makers and modders even put the golden cherry on the well-made cake by SEGA

[@martijnhertog4802]

Would love to see a serie with you covering some of the better fangames! Check out sonic gt/ project rascal, dimensions and utopia. Think gt might actually have been an small inspiration for frontier.

[@brawler5760]

The biggest problem with Sonic Omens is that it was designed for a second playthrough. The game is very frustrating first time around, and first impressions are very important.

[@ericburroughs3129]

If you want another series of sonic like games try out the Spark the electric Jester trilogy

[@ddawgmcdawg213]

I'd love to see more videos talking about Sonic fan projects. I need to check these out in my free time. They all look very fun.

[@DannySuperNoob]

2:53 you can actually press left stick to aim at the boss. Doesn't excuse how counterintuitive the Exile fight is, considering you're trying to collect energy to turn into super sonic, so you need to see what's in front of you. However you then cannot see what exile is going to do for his attacks and it's overall a poorly designed boss fight. I also didn't even mention Exile's projectile hit boxes and the absurd speed they travel at.

[@190mohammedyasin6]

I would love for you to continue reviewing sonic fan games . I knew about sonic omens but not the games , so thanks for that . Love your reviews .

[@businessmooscp2404]

Correction about 5:48, the mechanic was existed for long in the Sonic fan developer community since Sonic 2 Heroes (now as Sonic Classic Heroes) has used this feature before Sonic Mania Encore Mode brought it. Otherwise, it marks the first official Sonic game to swap characters in-game.

[@Onaterdem]

I would totally love to see Sonic fangame recommendations - as a person who was around when Blitz Sonic Heroes v1 released, I absolutely ADORE Sonic fangames, but unfortunately do not have time to check out most of them, or never hear about most of them. Such a shame.

[@SpaceLandslip]

Ive played Triple Trouble and loved it, but Fallen Star seems really cool and I cant wait to play it

[@michaelp545]

I would like to see you cover Sonic Before the Sequel and Sonic After the Sequel someday. Along with Sonic 3D in 2D.

[@keithfernandez8546]

Does anyone think that all Sonic games in the SEGA Game gear including Sonic Chaos should receive a 16 bit SEGA Genesis style remake like Sonic Triple Trouble?

[@mj_player6440]

I'd be down for more fan game videos.

[@SuperPlaytendo]

I still find it funny that Sonic Omens stole a music track from the Cars 2 game of all things.

[@KaiboStudios]

Is Omens bad? Yes. Is the story and gameplay of Omens bad? Yes. Are the creators of Omens bad? Absolutely. But! ...it has Bentley Jones, and that is pretty poggers. It's a shame the lyrics are terrible though, I know it wasn't Bentley's fault, I mean the man wrote dreams of an absolution, he knows how to write music.

[@stormfall1130]

Considering how confusing the story is,we can't blame Bentley. He gave his best.

[@sonicspeedway7643]

The game isn't bad in terms of story and gameplay but I'll never call the devs or team good I don't care what you say but it's a good game with bad people as it's creator

[@stormfall1130]

@@sonicspeedway7643 story is basically a poorly written sonic x fanfic.

[@sonicspeedway7643]

@Nameless Nobody it's been 8 months my guy lol of course I was dumb.

[@mjc0961]

4:59 - Wait what?! I gotta play those. Thanks for putting them on my radar. (the Mega Man 8 bit "demakes" I mean)

[@electronichaarp2835]

Would love for you to do a series on Sonic fan games, my personal favorite is Sonic Robocalls Blast 2, but there's so many great ones out there.

[@erikbihari3625]

Nice to hear from you,hope you're doing well, and can't wait for boom!

[@MrDark086]

Still got a working game gear with Triple Trouble and Blast on it among severs other gems. Many fond memories of hanging out at the campground with Nana playing that same game gear

[@azureknightmoris776]

I actually do fan works of my own, albeit in the form of Fire Emblem ROM hacking than making a whole new Sonic game, but I always appreciate content creators putting a spotlight on fan projects, so I'd love to see you make a series out of this!

[@ciaranmurphy235]

The fallen star’s art style is extremely anime

[@sevenchaos7156]

I don’t know if you know this but a heads up is ChaosX has done any builds for the Silver release to have it tested out yet. So…it’s gonna be even longer than usual especially since he keeps adding more stuff which all we can do is wait. I really do believe this update will be more interesting than Shadows release but it will take away lots of speed strats or tools like clipping in some stages, hedgehops, and high jump

[@JsReviews]

Hey man, long time no see. I saw him say the target is still this year, so I am holding out hope for that dropping this year, but as I said, I don't want to rush perfection either. Speedrunning Shadow Release became a lifestyle for me, so a lot of the skips being gone will be sad, but it will also be cool learning it all over again...although I hope the extended mod has a "jump height" slider for Silver Release, as I don't know if I can live without the double input glitch.

[@sevenchaos7156]

@@JsReviews I just completely forgot extended could possibly do that and now I need to mention that to the speedrunning community. I will say some things like a high jump is definitely a lifestyle people want but hedgehops is something a lot of people (even me) that genuinely hate it. There will be ups and downs but as for the release as a whole without talking about speedruns, it will be amazing.

[@theamazingmeh1759]

I like seeing what fans can create. Even if there is a bad apple at least 2 or more make up for it. A well deserve attention and praise for all the hard work put in.

[@sonicspeedway7643]

Yep well said omens is good in the ga,ellay and all except voice acting it's just gets all the hate thanks to its past

[@drompedino5583]

Maybe schedule the sonic fan game marathon to next year considering the many fan games are there. But will you make videos on sonic ROM hacks?

[@gManGabe]

Finally! The good Sonic games video!

[@mr.nickname9172]

I’d love to see more of u talking about fan games, it’s nice to hear your opinion on them.

[@mayonnaise6801]

can't wait for the p-06 review. its going to be amazing

[@cloudshines812]

J: I’ll review Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric next Also J: Well… yes but actually no… (In all seriousness, this was a real treat to see you cover Sonic Omens and Triple Trouble Remake… two fan games that I’m glad blew up. TTR for all the right reasons… but Omens for all the WRONG reasons)

[@Nic_2751]

Glad Omens got the treatment it deserves and everything else was nice and sweet

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

I dunno. I still like omans more.

[@sonicspeedway7643]

Yep omens is a great sonic fan game it just has horrible people behind it which makes people say they hate it

[@Nic_2751]

@@sonicspeedway7643 it’s shit

[@YTDani75]

@@sonicspeedway7643 Yeah it's great. Until you play it. And then it becomes shit.

[@gggsh7]

omens is actually garbage outside of a few levels. once you get passed the few good levels, everything else is garbage

[@HelluvaOpp]

Comparing both Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit and Sonic Omens is kinda like the buff doge meme, the buff doge is TT 16-Bit, while Omens is the crying Cheems doge.