Sonic Origins In-depth Review!

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With less than 24 hours before the review embargo lifted, Sega contacted me and said "Would you like to review Sonic Origins?" So I said, yes!
Sonic origins is the new Sonic compilation game from Sega, this In-depth Review, takes a look at what makes the game standout from previous compilations and previous versions of the said games.
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[@BadnikMechanic]

"And now I'm Dead!"

[@Sovic91]

You know, I have to hand it to you. You made a great video for a dead man.

[@SmolMitee]

yup especially that people leaked the cutscenes

[@AWMonopolyMan]

The Sonic 2 Level Select was changed to be the Knuckles in Sonic 2 level select code (Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right then A+Start)

[@theminecraft2516]

Shouldn’t lives be optional at least? Why do we settle for bare minimum with these ports

[@AWMonopolyMan]

I can’t believe I have to make a callout, those character animations you praise so much, are also a part of the Digital Deluxe Edition, so literally, if you get the base version, your just getting the plain islands as they are with no animations whatsoever. Also if you plan to pay for the DLC later after getting the Base version, it costs more than just getting the Digital Deluxe Edition as is. Much like how Banana Mania did it

[@SonicXeno]

2:35 a little fun fact: the AI upscaling for Sonic CD’s opening and ending we’re done by members of Discotek Media. A company over here in North America known for really good remasters of classic and niche anime titles. Like their recent release of the Darkstalkers OVA and their upcoming release of the classic Digimon anime which also uses AI upscaling, for example

[@BadnikMechanic]

Damn! I couldn't remember who it was otherwise I would have pointed them out! It really is some incredible work!

[@gamingnubs7628]

They also upscaled AoSTH for Bluray! It looks amazing!

[@josephwilson3180]

@@gamingnubs7628 They did not upscale AoSTH. It is presented in SD on their Blu-ray. Same with their Sonic X Blu-ray. (Although they don’t have the mpeg compression artifacts present on dvd releases.)

[@gamingnubs7628]

@right_in_the_tockles QUIT HARASSING HIM.

[@gamingnubs7628]

@@josephwilson3180 looks upscaled to me.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

All this looks good but because it’s not Physical and I disagree with the 40$ plus 5$ DLC (why the fuck does a compilation of 30 Year old games have DLC, especially when the features are minimal as hell) price tag, I will not be buying this. Something I would’ve hoped it had was Knuckles’ Chaotix and The Sonic OVA because they’re not as well known as the other things.

[@HeroUnibr0]

After hearing the Carnival Night music Origins uses, I'm kinda disappointed they bothered remastering the prototype tracks at all. I'd much prefer if they had just ripped them straight from the original prototype, since these new ones seem to take more inspiration from the sound of the PC Collection's versions (which almost everyone agrees didn't sound good) to me Carnival Night sounds a lot less exciting than it did in the prototype, which isn't a good thing when the zone is based on a carnival.

[@alexthebluehermit]

The ice cap and launch base themes were my favorite themes from Sonic 3 I will probably never play those stages now that the feel of them will be completely different...

[@pinstripecool34]

Yea im kinda bummed about that ngl. Especially ice cap and launch base. Those tunes are iconic.

[@alexthebluehermit]

At least we have 3 air

[@SMPandanic]

I will say the "new" music they added sounded A LOT better on the prototype than it does here if I am honest

[@Terminal_Apotos]

New music sounds like Sad Random Burps from the Genesis

[@gamingnubs7628]

I dont think you were hearing the new tracks. They sounded too much like the PC versions of the prototype tracks.

[@Kelis98]

Yeah while I don’t prefer the prototype music it at least sounded a bit better there overall

[@RelaxAlexX]

I disagree

[@SuperGoku14]

8:38 I doubt Sonic 2's level select was removed altogether because of the options screen not being there. In the mobile version, if you happen to be playing the game on Bluestacks (or the decompiled PC port), the level select code was exactly the same as it was in the Knuckles in Sonic 2 lock-on: Press Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right on the title screen, and press "Start" (or whichever other button) after the ring chime plays.

[@ccffreak]

According to some that have it already I believe that is the code to unlock it

[@jeremy3705]

You’re correct, it’s the lock on code and then you press y on switch, square on ps5, and x on Xbox. Then you’re at level select and sound test

[@retropulse03]

I'm glad you touched on some of the finer details. What the deluxe package dlc actually does. Knuckles not being in Sonic CD. Comparing the music - spot on about ice cap's tone. .

[@retropulse03]

@right_in_the_tockles What do you want?

[@windy3935]

Yeah I expected WAY more from an "indepth review". He didn't even mention mirror mode, boss rush, Sonic CD's toggleable soundtracks, CD's vocal opening, some of the deluxe edition contents funnily enough, 2P multiplayer (especially for S3&K), Sonic & Knuckles, none of the overlooked scene updates, ETC.

[@Mikel-tj1xu]

Now THIS is the review I was waiting for!

[@rollingstart_90s]

All this time I tought you could actually zoom and spin the camera around these islands, to see each area and corner in detail.

[@SonicXeno]

8:37 last update I swear lol. But yeah people found that it’s still there, just it’s now the level select code from Sonic 2 when attached to the Sonic & Knuckles cartridge. AKA when on the title screen, press Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, and then, depending on the console, press either X on Xbox, Square on PlayStation, or Y on Switch. That should do it

[@tristanbush6576]

I'm hoping for a Physical Release in the vain of Sonic Mania Plus. Also, do the opening and ending songs of Sonic CD (JPN/PAL & US) have their vocals?

[@FolfHavoc]

CD does have it’s vocals in it’s opening and ending tracks.

[@FandangoTV]

I Miss 'Sonic mega collection plus'. That had spinball, 3d blast and a bunch of game gear titles on top of the classic stuff.

[@DemonDethchase]

With Anniversary Mode I don't understand why they couldn't add the option to have lives. I mean, would it really have been THAT hard? Especially when you consider that Sonic Jam, back in 1997, let you select game difficulty - Easy, Normal and Original - and turn off the stage time limit across Sonic 1-3&K.

[@linkinboss2]

But if you are good at Sonic does it add any challenge? I can't even remember the last time I was starved for lives in a Sonic game anyway 🤔

[@mattkugelman4369]

@@linkinboss2 exactly

[@shadowwhite9324]

The classic mode is just the mobile port backstretched to 4/3 thats good and funny because of this the special stage in sonic 2 is a little bit easy And aniversery gives you unlimited lifes Why they dont make the classic mode in 16/9

[@beatziegraham6928]

Don’t be afraid of Sega about the cutscenes my dude. At least it’s not the Nintendo Ninjas.

[@BadnikMechanic]

lol It's more... I just wanted to respect the conditions since it was my first code from them.

[@gamingnubs7628]

@@BadnikMechanic better to follow the guidelines and get some neat goodies in the future than risk it all for some cutscenes!

[@wahoo8683]

They really need to make an actual Classic Sonic TV show with the same animation.

[@lemoncookie5090]

Have you seen sonic mania adventures

[@thatweirddude5910]

@@lemoncookie5090 that's not a 20min episode

[@lemoncookie5090]

@@thatweirddude5910 I see your point but I’m just saying that there are extended pieces of animation with the same art style

[@thatweirddude5910]

@@lemoncookie5090 i also see your point im happy we can state our reasoning instead of arguing like meat heads

[@lemoncookie5090]

@@thatweirddude5910 thank you

[@EvilPikachu]

Biggest problem I have with this review; those Sonic slipper shoes only go up to a size 10. Guess big feet long term fans like me packing a set of size 12s can just go back to our freak corner 😤

[@stevenshockley4237]

Is that a cat in the background chillin?? That was the thing that made me subscribe today

[@BadnikMechanic]

Oh that's Princess "Mushy!" Yeah she was asleep for the entire time I was filming, except for the reshoot at around 5:00

[@thisistheend_777]

@@BadnikMechanic 😂 ❤️🤣 💙 🐱

[@Hynotama]

The people complaining about the lives system being gone are the same people who know every pixel of these games and have not seen a "game over" screen in a sonic game for decades.

[@Positivewaiter]

On behalf of those people, pretty accurate honestly. Crash 4 taught me how pointless lives really are in modern gaming. We're aren't at the arcade anymore

[@kurttheraccoongaming9513]

I love Sonic Origins, the Collection is extremely Solid, but I have a couple of Issues/Nickpits I have to say, I haven't really noticed any Changes or Issues about Sonic 1 or Sonic 2, I've mostly noticed a couple of Audio Issues with Sonic CD, such as 1. Sonic no longer saying "Yes" when getting an extra Life, 2. Amy not yelping when getting grabbed by Metal Sonic and also no longer making the Noise that you hear when trying to hug you in either Palmtree Panic or Stardust Speedway, 3. Sonic no longer says "I'm Outta here" after waiting 3 Minutes in a Level without doing anything, 4. The Twinkling Sound is missing from the Good Ending to make you feel all Warm and Fuzzy for saving Little Plannet, but I'm last Compliment about the Origins Port of Sonic CD is that the Games Original Ending Cutscene has been sped up to not play in Slow Motion and it also doesn't play it's Original Sound Effects, it immediately cuts straight to the Music, but what I do appreciate is that the Quality of the Cutscene is extremely Great and the Vocals for Cosmic Eternity have been Restored, which were replaced by Instrumentals in 2011, a lot of Fans who prefer the Vocals will appreciate that (Myself Included) Last but not least, we can't talk Audio without addressing the Elephant in the Room, there's Remixed Prototype Music that replaces some Iconic Tracks for Sonic 3/Knuckles, but it's only 3 Zones and for the Super/Hyper Form Theme, Carnival Night Act 1/Act 2, Ice Cap Act 1/Act 2, Launch Base Act 1/Act 2, There Tracks are not bad, but the Originals are better, but asides from that, this port of Sonic 3/Knuckles is perfect and I don't have any Issues or Complaints about it

[@zrisethesonicgamer]

The sonic 2 cheat code should exist. It should be up, up, up, down, down, down, left, right, left, right. On the title screen. This is an alternative code to the Sega letters one for Sonic 2 on mobile. They made this code purposefully to make it possible to play and do everything in the game with a controller. It should work, and if it doesn't then there isn't any other code I'm aware of. Sources used: Sonic Retro Also, those cheat options were all available options in the mobile ports for a long time. Sonic 1 and Sonic 2's level select is tapping the sega letters. Or for Sonic 1, Up, Down, Left, Right. The code for Sonic 2 is the same code as the level select for Knuckles in Sonic 2. And Sonic CD removed the 3rd sound option for the sound test. So, it is just 12, 11. Just thought I would share that information.

[@Solesteam]

10:12 You find blue spheres hard? It's one of the easiest of the 4 in my opinion! Sonic 2's half second reaction halfpipe is the troublesome one especially when tails kicks the sides of your emotions by ramming head first into an explosive and jumping afterwards to spite you and the rings you just lost... In blue spheres, you get a slightly better view and can turn aro5to avoid stuff, and best of all, Tails doesn't cause trouble or have any impact whatsoever in that one.

[@chronoblue418]

A little disappointed they didn't take a page from Generations and make it so you can play the unlocked music in any stage you want. It would have been nice to listen to Seascape and Evening Star from Knuckles Chatotix in a stage since they'll probably never rerelease and improve the game. This could have been the next best thing.

[@Kelis98]

I’m upset about the original 3 & K MJ music not being in the game, the prototype versions aren’t as good and don’t fit as well Why can’t they get this issue sorted out so they can use the release versions, these versions don’t fit as well and the tone and feeling isn’t the same at all. IK there are still versions with the original music and origins will have mods on pc (and the music is online) but still it’s not ideal I at least hope CD still lets you select the soundtrack version

[@jjthecat9692]

Same here. Unfortunately for me it's a deal breaker. No original MJ(esque?) OST it's a no buy. I already own these games across multiple platforms so for that price tag I'm gonna skip it.

[@Kelis98]

@@jjthecat9692 yeah I get that, personally I’m gonna pick it up for the other features though since I’m curious though idk if I’ll play sonic 3 and knuckles on this version or skip it and just reply it on the genesis, mega collection, or the steam port of mega drive and genesis classics. I might wait for a music mod idk I just wish sonic 3 & K had a music option, if MJ didn’t want credited I don’t know what the issue is or why they don’t buy the rights or work out another deal

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Yup, They’re both amazing tracks and the new songs sound like Random Genesis Burps.

[@Supermariorpg6]

Excuse ? Prototype Ice Cap and Carnival Night are fantastic

[@Sonicjan]

@@Supermariorpg6 Not the Remasters, though

[@TailzDMW]

I don’t hate the prototype music but honestly it’s a deal breaker, I’ll just keep playing Mega Collection

[@kurttheraccoongaming9513]

1:35 - "But Sega said if you do that, we will come around to your House and batter you to Death" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@EA-bv8zk]

Does the sonic cd part of the collection have the Japanese soundtrack?

[@TheBigExclusive]

Why did you take down your "Land of the giant sonic statues video?"

[@Solesteam]

2:13 Sega, like your friendly neighborhood spiderman, good with the community, but can also be scary if need to be. (Legally of course! They wouldn't actually reduce someone to bones.)

[@mlamanno]

There IS a level select for Sonic 2. Up up up down down down left right left right x/square (Xbox/ps)

[@Morilix]

They should have hired Tee Lopez to recompose the music.

[@roland_the_cursor]

NicoCW, Yuzoboy, LegendOfRenegade, KingMeteor, or Bouncy's Glow Room would have been better choices.

[@haloeg3911]

You are so Right, Tee Lopez would have been the best choice for the music especially on sonic 3 to give more a of a vibe to the tracks that couldn't be used.

[@troyami]

Does Sonic CD have the Japanese soundtrack.?

[@Solesteam]

Don't worry about the music, I'm sure pretty sure some bright mind will mod them back in.

[@Hynotama]

The new Ice Cap song, legit reminds me of Sonic Advance, with it's bright and "winter wonderland" tone.

[@jonathanthomas9259]

Sonic origins are a great way to experience remastered games with more elements. Although I do understand why you preferred the MJ versions of Sonic 3 tracks, because the prototype music wasn’t mentioned until hidden palace found it in 2019. For me I like the prototype versions of those tracks.

[@Solesteam]

9:46 I do stupid things because I amass a surplus of lives, oftentimes nearing 99 if there's a carnival stage with a slot machine _*that actually gives rings unlike in CD where there's that weird bucket thing that gives you points*_. (too bad Sonic 1 and CD didn't have one of those...)

[@gungaloscrungalo8925]

A couple of questions (Sorry if I missed them in the video) 1. Can we select between the US and JP soundtracks for Sonic CD? 2. Can we turn off the border art for the classic 4:3 versions? All the footage I've seen has had screen border art, which I hate. It's just distracting and always clashes with the game.

[@BadnikMechanic]

Yes both soundtracks are there. Not sure if you can turn it off. But I think you can change the border art so it might be possible.

[@gungaloscrungalo8925]

@@BadnikMechanic Awesome, thanks!

[@Solesteam]

Instead of making a new port every few years, they should update the game every few years.

[@jamesbevan4479]

I pre ordered for ps5, not just for myself, but so my 9 yr old son who loves sonic more than me can play it on his ps4 (I'm an OG fan who loves the 2d games, likes colours and generations. he loves ALL sonic, even the bad lol). We're both looking forward to it, and I'm overall happy with what people are saying. (no the new tracks don't offend me, I can play my ps2 collection for those old tunes, I understand the reasons why). It's just a shame Sega dropped the ball on some scummy pre order dlc deluxe feature bs. £35 is a lot of money for these old games, they should have included ALL this content. Maybe a physical complete edition will release later on, like mania plus. For now, I'm just gonna enjoy what's on offer. After Elden Ring... I need a nostalgia filled comfy game 😊

[@Solesteam]

10:47 Darn, I can't get a game over and use a coin as a continue like in arcade games.

[@stevenshockley4237]

Now that I'm not as distracted by Mushy, this was an awesome video. I pre-ordered a while back and haven't been able to play Sonic 3 in years, I don't have a PC, just a laptop that functions for making my music haha. My current consoles consist of a PS4 and Switch, as I sold off my retro stuff by now. I'm sad that Jun messed up the beta songs by making them sound worse, but I can get past those for sure. I'm honestly excited for Mirror Mode, it feels completely different to play. Mission mode's gonna mess me up :D

[@PlotlinePlus]

Blue Sphere guy must be losing it. Green spheres are a step too far.

[@saraschmidt5612]

As somebody who actually likes the prototype soundtrack and was excited to hear it get used, lemme just say that they completely butchered those songs for Sonic Origins. The prototype music from the beta version of Sonic 3 on the Genesis sounds waaaay better than these muddied so-called 'remasters'.

[@Sonicjan]

No Man of the Year Part 2? I waited for so long... Ever since Sonic Jam!

[@SonicXeno]

I don’t mind Anniversary Mode at all, makes sense that they’d want to get rid of the live system considering how “chaotic” the level design of the old games. Like you said though, my only criticism is not being able to have lives with both the widescreen and extra content from the Retro Engine ports, you’re stuck with classic mode in that aspect

[@thisistheend_777]

Missing Sonic Spin ball...the Master System versions AND mean bean machine 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑

[@musictorin]

"Sonic Origins is well worth your money" I get that the product is worth whatever you're willing to pay, but $40 USD ($50 plus tax in CAD, making the deluxe almost $70 in total) for 4 games that are 30 years old with a few tweaks that are already unnoficially available with rom hacks like Sonic 3 AIR, while the official versions have been sold for $5 each or all together in a $20 collection that includes over 40 genesis games as well doesn't sound worth it. Which sounds better: a $40 collection with $10 DLC that includes 4 games in widescreen with an added mirror mode (which you can create on your own by flipping the screen and remapping the controls) plus a few extras while removing some original music, or a $20 collection (maybe lower nowadays) that comes with over 40 genesis games with extras with the original music intact?

[@WakoDoodle]

Oh they used the PC songs for the sonic 3 and knuckles 9Sonic 3 and Knuckles Collection) levels (which were based of the prototype music before micheal jackson got involved) ! I grew up on that first as my first sonic game so it's like the game has come full circle, but I understand the genesis fans preferring the later songs by MJ; hopefully because it's on PC, ppl will mod it or make mods to add the songs back. Still I get why they did it, licensing reasons with Micheal Jackson Records. But they could of easily did a brand new series of remixes to avoid it, in a sort of mania style. Anyway I can't wait to get this, I hope they make more collections like this. Imagine Sonic 3D blast (with dreamcast/PC music and weather effects as options), knuckles Chaotix and either Sonic Spinball or Dr. Robotnik's mean bean machine collection!

[@LilacLegeret]

Yeah I heard you're thing about screen size adjustment should have been added The sonic origins Considering sonic 1 and 2 In Saga age Versions Have multiple wallpaper cvoices which I wish they had more choices but at least they have a couple and you can also make the game fill up the whole screen like anniversary edition In another word you wish that sonic origins Had Sonic Saga age Screen size option I mean even the option you do for the debug code songs and supersonic songs Sega Age Sonic 2 Allowed you to turn on level select and then you could play the songs for supersonic transformation or the debug code And then you would have it available at all times as long as you had the level select feature on in Sega age Sonic And tales 2 And knuckles 2 Unfortunately Knuckles In sonic 2 cannot use the cheat codes even with the level select option on you can go anywhere in the game you want on any stage you want but you cannot give him all the chaos emeralds in he can't go super when it comes to knuckles The cheat code song don't work for him the cheat code songs only work for sonic & Talis But they are planning on releasing Sonic origins plus Meaning they might add an update that would allow you to change the screen size in the classic mode and the anniversary mode Which would be a nice feature And considering chermy The rabbit And Amy rose with her hammer Both those characters were available to play as in GBA Sonic advance 3 Meaning they could do with sonic plus which would be a totally awesome idea what sonic origins plus a really awesome idea that Sega could do Is ed charming and Amy rose as playable characters using their GBA character models with updated graphics and The 2 new characters from sonic Mania The armadillo and the flying squirrel By adding and giving us insonic origins plus or DLC giving us 4 new Characters Amy rose with her hammer GBA version was updated graphics to fit better into the origin collection and charming the rabbit From GBA Cause those 2 would already have Genesis art style for the characters And also the armadillo from Mania and the flying squirrel frommania I only say that cause I can't remember their names what I think was mighty the armadillo and ray the squirrel It's the added dose for characters in sonic origin plus and gave people the option to buy the DLC to play essels for additional characters causing anniversary to make them automatically available right off the bat because you have to DLC and then go into the level select code and select those characters allowing sonic To even team up with Amy In another word giving the 3 characters in the game right now sonic and tales and knuckles The option to team up with each other and also the 4 new characters and also allowing the 4 new characters a team up whoever they want a team up with in Sonic origins plus For peoples that already have original Sonic origins Standard version And people that have the Deluxe vision of sonic origins Can also get a plus version of the game getting these 4 new characters and a ratio option Screen adjustment size for sonic origins anniversary and classic mode Giving them the screen size adjustment that you find in sonic 1 and 2 In Sega ages Which have multiple different screen sizes it would be nice if the origin collection Of sonic They release the plus option Gives you those 4 new characters I mentioned Amy and charmie and mighty and ray S playable characters And sonic 1 and 2 Screen size option That was available in the Sega ages version Allowing anniversary gameplay and animated scenes and classic mode and animated scenes to be able to play at any screen size from 4.3 Ratio and 16.9 ratio And original ratio what's some games called normal original depending on the company's choice of how to name it Minnie on a 32" screen Size like mine it would make it look like I have the screen of a laptop on my TV where it takes a bunch of my screen as my dad's laptop does that's what normal and original would be of screen size where your image on a 32" TV what looked the size of your computer monitor laptop Giving you 3 screen size choices You know what's kind of funny Kanami In the cowabunga collection Calls 4.3 Full screen size While in Sega ages sonic 1 and 2 They call it fit Screen size When it comes to 4.3 ratio Which both ratios are the same ratios in 64 uses in its games like you see on the virtual console On WIIU It's the same screen size as sonic is in classic mode in origit's takes up the same amount of screen as a nintendo 64 game does on the virtual console On WIIU Except in sonic origin to get wallpaper in 64 games only get a black screen on thethighs which is kind of boring But when it came to the wallpaper idea in teenage mutant ninja purdles cowabunga collection Apparently when it came to the wallpaper they designed the wallpaper to only work properly if you put it in original screen size or to some collections normal screen size it doesn't work well on what some games call in collections screen fit or full screen Which is what some game collections call 4.3 ratio but some games full screen is the same thing as Wide screen for some collections use full screen size To represent 16.9 ratio emulated idea Well some games like the kawabunga collection Fullscreen Is the same thing that you would see on an N64 game on WIIU Which confuses a lot of us fans on which is the real meaning behind each screen size the only things we actually know which is actually real screen size is 4.3 and 16.9 ratios are the only thing we can define but when it comes to original Or full or Fit Screen size and normal screen size that's where companies confuse us the only time anything makes sense in a screen size is when it's 4.3 and 16.9 Are the only ratio screen sizes companies are actually honest about in the other screen size they keep labeling them differently and confusing us fans like one company will call it normal screen size while other companies would call it poet original Screen size Which is technically a 16.9 ratio on a laptop is what original and normal screen size are there a laptop screen size of 16.9 ratio But not on ATV Cause normal screen size and original screen size represent a 16.9 ratio Filling up the whole screen like anniversary mode in origin does but that's only on laptops and notepads That's where normal and original screensizes come from they actually come from notepads and laptops because that's their 16.9 ratio size because there are smaller screens when it comes to laptops and notepads Laptops are original screen size which is 16.9 for them Normal screen size is 16.9. When it comes to a notepad Or the WIIU gamepad Can be considered original or normal screen size 16.9 ratio at least when it comes to a small screen I don't know what you would call it on a phone of a size I don't think you could use the word normal or original when it comes to a phone screen size 16.9

[@throwawaydetective9080]

Okay so. You mention people calling Anniversary Mode a “journalist mode” and while I would normally not care if an easy mode is added, having that easy mode be MANDATORY to enjoy these games in widescreen is just patronizing as hell. So, sorry, but I have to side with the gamers here. If you can’t play games you shouldn’t review them :)

[@AndyHappyGuy]

Fuck with them

[@onlyusernameleft2]

I like the Blue Sphere stages and I'm tired of pretending I don't. That's right, I'm blue sphere guy and cybershell can call me out all he wants. I'm tired of living in the dark 😂

[@xonact8855]

I understand the removal of lives, but I personally don't like it. I think lives add to the experience, it forces you to get good, because every time you die you die you get ever closer and closer to having to restart the zone, which is punishment for the player not learning the mechanics well enough. Of course this has to be done well, which I personally think S3&K does. I'm fine with them removing lives, I just wish they gave us an option for lives in Anniversary mode, and not just Classic mode, because I want that widescreen and the extra stuff. Because it does impact me, because I like the tension. I may just have to stick with Sonic 3 A.I.R. for S3&K, but it does seem very good for Sonic 1. This is why we need an option to turn lives on and off in the 2 main modes.

[@TheEnemyOfDawn]

Well anniversary mode does impact how I play because I have to play this shit baby mode for people who don't actually like playing video games to unlock museum content.

[@thepeternetwork]

You forgot to mention one con: Digital Release Only. I do not support the idea that you only own the license to play the game on the console you originally bought it for instead of inserting physical media into your game console. From what I have read online, Sega has "no plans for a physical release at this time." When a game publisher says "no plans at this time," what they actually mean is "no plans at all, ever." So you're stuck paying for something you don't own, and by all definition, that is robbery and scam tactic.

[@sugarsmile7852]

Sonic 3&k new music isn't new it's the PC version of sonic 3&k sonic & knuckles collection which it's self is the prototype of sonic 3&k

[@ukyoize]

Chaotix 32x blows. It looks preety, but ring tether gimick is really bad.

[@thisistheend_777]

NO OG MUSIC IS A MAJOR FAIL? WTF ????....!!!!!!❗❗❗❗❗❗❓❓❓❓❓❓❗❗❗❗🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡

[@chronoblue418]

Thanks for the indepth review. This is the kind of nity gritty info I look for when deciding on making purchases.

[@AlexLorentzenloganjamesalex]

You enter the level select and debug cheats on the title screen for Sonic 2 (funnily enough the video that told me that couldn't figure out how to get Sonic 3 codes working but you did)

[@TruthofLove]

Any benefits of Sonic 3K in origins vs Sonic AIR?

[@greek1237]

Blue Spears seems to be a lot like the puzzles of the box Crates from Crash Bandicoot 4 it's about time lol.

[@AsecasJavi]

Tell me about how the music is all wrong please. Why does it start at the wrong point every level after act1

[@VOAN]

Guys Sonic Origins, the digital deluxe edition is now $9 off on the PS Store and Nintendo eShop.

[@lgill6710]

I'm doing the order you done cause I'm gonna have the incentive to finish the other games to get to S3&K

[@yuichiusagirabbitpawssnow4820]

awesome 👏 and cool 😎 enjoy your video a lot keep up good job on KZbin channel 😅

[@lockout5731]

good review i yeah as a proud fan myself would love sonic R to be on it

[@Blu_Streak]

Is it just me, or does the gameplay feel slow specifically on the pc version?

[@PaperMario]

man out here not knowing about sonic 3 and knuckles beta or more known as PC version music...

[@bunnyrabbit3471]

i pre ordered sonic origins Deluxe edition i can't wait to play them

[@code2519]

any news on Sega world or any of the segaworld statues like the ice sonic

[@ccffreak]

Can’t wait for this. Thank you for answering the time attack question because no one mentioned it. I will miss those songs but I’m sure modders are already working on fixing those on steam. It would be cool if you could play multiplayer online but Sega never gets that right

[@chronoblue418]

I actually played Sonic Generations 3DS online races back in the day. I don't know if any other Sonic games had online multiplayer though.

[@ccffreak]

@@chronoblue418 but that’s my point. Sega never does online to main consoles. Even The Sonic 2 we are getting had multiplayer on mobile. I don’t see why it would be a problem for consoles

[@davidzea-smith1417]

I would like this game to get the Mania Plus treatment: An expanded physical edition and content from the physical edition can be bought as DLC. (I want this collection to have Sonic Spinball and Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine.)

[@DazzaS83]

Imagine Sonic Spinball with classic Sonic's physics!

[@ShadowXeldron]

I preordered the Deluxe Version. Truth be told, the removal of lives does impact my experience since I feel that the games lose something if you get rid of them. I'll probably play through it and then go back to Sonic 3 AIR. It's also disappointing that they seem to be using the beta tracks instead of composing new ones like I would have hoped. With that said though, it's better than what I was worried they would do and literally use the exact same MIDIs from the PC version, soundfont and all. Regardless, I'll probably still have a blast with the mission mode. A few things that I would have done: 1. Native Linux version, although I guess that this is sadly the most wishful thinking out of everything on this list. 2. Have Classic mode emulate the original ROMs for increased authenticity 3. Include the option for a remixed soundtrack, that would've been cool 4. Related to the above, allow custom music to be used in the 5. Feature a few ROMs in the museum. These would be unlocked through gameplay. For example, beating X badniks would unlock 3D Blast, clearing each game would unlock its Game Gear equivalent (ie, 8-Bit S1 for S1, 8-Bit S2 for S2, Chaos for CD, Triple Trouble for 3&K), and beating Sonic 3 as Knuckles would unlock Knuckles Chaotix. 6. Let the player play Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles alone if need be 7. Make anniversary mode customisable, for example being able to choose whether lives are included, having the option of toggling the time limit 8. Knuckles in CD. That would've been great, since Knuckles' climbing and gliding would go really well with CD's more exploration focused gameplay 9. Include the IDW Free Comic Book day issue in there somewhere. If this game actually includes multiple RSDK files then I'll laugh my head off, then chuck them in the decomps to see if they work. Either way, once the RSDK gets hacked I'm backporting the remixed beta tracks to S3AIR, and when the mod loader becomes available I'll make everyone deal with the PC version's MIDIs because I'm mean (what's worse is those MIDIs are actually quite good, by early MIDI standards).

[@2000mightymegatron]

Pass. The music is half the fun. Pony up the cash Sega.

[@Rwc900]

This is a hard pass for me they need to add Spinball and Knuckles Chaotics. If sega did this and did not change sonic 3 music while also made sonic 3 and knuckles sepreat games I would buy this! I have no clue why they did not add Sonic 3d Blast too!

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Yeah it’s kinda lacking considering how much they COULD’VE put in but decided not to.

[@solonto4561]

How would connect those games to the story????

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@solonto4561 They wouldn’t, just make them side games

[@BadnikMechanic]

My conspiracy brain thinks. 2023: Sonic Origins & Knuckles - Physical Edition, with Chaotix + CD Knuckles.

[@Rwc900]

@@BadnikMechanic also add sonic spin ball and 3d blast with mean bean and I would buy!

[@EnchantedSmellyWolf]

They are not new unless if you missed out with the Windows 98.

[@breakingtiger1419]

Hogfather! Erm I mean badnik mechanic. The quality of your reviews and videos never fail. I’ve been following you since the beginning. And I was 12. 0_0 Keep up the great work!

[@BadnikMechanic]

Thank you!

[@Acermani456]

Will u finally be able to get all 7 emeralds in Sonic 1 with a saved game?

[@uknighted213]

super sonic in 1 would be amazing

[@Ryan.Lohman]

Anniversary and mission mode are the main things I'm buying it for.

[@slainredd4339]

I will run through the story mode that plays each game back to back with the cutscenes.

[@marinaradeadchannel]

To be honest, the only things I could complain about is: 1: Not adding an option to change the soundtrack in Sonic CD, because I don’t like having PTSD every time I run into a boss. And, 2: The Micheal Jackson situation, just that in general. EDIT: I just realized I’m stupid and you can change the soundtrack in Sonic CD but they never tell you how to.

[@the-point-bearer6689]

1. Yes you can. 2. Brad Buxer and his team had the license that SEGA does not want to bother no more.

[@Adalwolf17]

Uuuggghh the music change is a huge turn off for me.

[@DevyBoi]

The legend returns

[@tarttooth6022]

I'm disappointed there isn't a physical version. I'm holding out on purchasing Origins in hopes one is eventually released. $40 feels like far too much for a digital release when I could just boot up a fan project with similar features (Sonic 3 Air, etc.).

[@BlackBlur888]

fans are going to patch it anyway so insta buy

[@johnlennon157]

cool review, definitely convinced me to buy the game. thanks badnik!

[@BadnikMechanic]

Aww Anytime John Lennon!

[@thaneros]

All I want to know is can you sprite swap?

[@rickeybat]

I preordered the digital deluxe edition. I agree that stuff shouldn't have been locked behind a paywall. I just wish they hadn't changed the music for ice cap zone though.

[@Thegreat772]

Wtf was that new ice cap music 🤭

[@Cincast]

rendering settings on this video don't do the games visuals justice

[@BadnikMechanic]

I'm open to suggestions, usually I just select Sony AVC/MVC: Internet 1920X108-30p Since it's MP4 and is the max setting that I know KZbin doesn't have a problem with. But seriously, if I can get better looking render settings without the file sizes being too mega stupid I'm all for it. So any suggestions are most welcome!

[@gamingnubs7628]

@right_in_the_tockles holy shit stop being such a baby. He said something you disagreed with, move on. Its called an opinion.

[@BadnikMechanic]

@right_in_the_tockles I feel you should learn to speak coherently over something other than b-roll gameplay footage before you give anyone advice on video production... But that's just me.

[@kingoffanta7902]

Finally, a compilation worthy of being called Sonic Jam 2

[@gungaloscrungalo8925]

Mega Collection was amazing though.

[@AlexLorentzenloganjamesalex]

Link in the description times out

[@lovelylow69]

“The new tracks aren’t bad,” Biggest lie of 2022

[@Electroudon06]

9:15 What?

[@Terminal_Apotos]

“THEY DUMBED IT DOWN FOR BABIES!!!”

[@BadnikMechanic]

@@Terminal_Apotos You Got it.

[@DemonDethchase]

@@BadnikMechanic but they still could have added an option for lives, rather than in order to get all the bells and whistles of wide screen you must play it this way (Anniversary Mode), and ONLY this way. Meanwhile back in 1997 Sonic Jam when adding the spin dash into Sonic 1, if you didn't want to use it, you didn't have to, as you could turn it off in the options menu. Along with turning off the stage time limit and if you were struggling, change the level difficulty to Easy or Normal, or just play the game as it first came out, through Original mode, along with still being able to turn on or off the time limit or Spin Dash. While it could be argued they dumbing it down, but laziness seems the bigger issue here. Especially when back in 1997 they were giving you far more options for how you wanted to play the games.

[@MJ-oi6ul]

No playable Amy 0/10

[@nickygwilson]

No ice cap music no buy.

[@MementoDespair]

18:02 you almost had it

[@Kingbeat1]

Why are the cd cutscenes not full screen but the 2011 one did

[@BadnikMechanic]

Probably due to the Ai resampling. Or just an artistic decision.

[@TheGuySilver]

Fantastic Video! This looks genuinely Great! I agree with the Paywall Debate It’s a Shame those extra Features will Cost extra and it doesn’t seem worth forking out an extra Fiver for em(Even tho Suckers like me Bought the Deluxe Edition)!

[@BuckarooBanzai84]

Wow, I think that's the first time I've heard you drop the F-bomb... (off-scrpt indeed, LOL.) But regardless, I'm so happy to have you back! And thanks for giving us such an in-depth look at this new game! I'm SO hyped! =)