Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) Destroyed an Icon

It's time to look back at the game that forever changed the public perception of Sonic the Hedgehog.
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[@DeltaOtaku]

I haven't seen that many people call 06 a "secret masterpiece", mostly people beginning to appreciate the good ideas it had. There definitely are people who think it's a perfect game and everyone was wrong for criticizing it, but I just haven't noticed too many of them. I'm one of the people who can enjoy 06 for the great ideas it has as well as acknowledge that it's not a good game fundamentally. I think the level design is the best of the Adventure-Style games, it has elements of SA1's open ended exploration as well as SA2's linear action focus. The problem is that all the characters handle terribly so it's difficult to fully enjoy the levels. I disagree with the point of needing to make a new game for 06 to be good, P06, in my opinion, proves that 06 had great level design and character moveset concepts. Simply fixing the way the characters handle makes the game much more enjoyable. I really like the darker tone of the story, music, and the realistic environments, they remind me of Sonic 1, I've always liked the darker atmosphere of that game, but Sonic 2's upbeat action anime approach is equally great. The music is fantastic in my opinion, it feels like something out of an early 2000s Hollywood blockbuster, which would make sense because that's pretty much what 06 as a whole is going for stylistically. Also the Shadow game is mainline, things happen in it that relate to or effect other mainline games. Get over it. In all seriousness though, great job on this review, regardless of how much I disagreed, it was a very well put together video and I'm looking forward to what's next!

[@GeneralSouthParkFan]

Really if anything with P-06, one of its biggest flaw of it right now is ironically a redeeming quality of the vanilla game: In which you don't spend much time being able to play the amigos. ChaosX has successfully made people actually want to play Amy in more sections of the game, which is a scary thought in of itself.

[@EclipseHedgehog]

I loved p-06. but that doesn't mean the original retail release was good, its still a buggy mess that should be just tossed in the garbage. p-06 is another man's vision and im willing to bet half the stuff you can do there would have been impossible in the original game. Heck we don't and probably will never get a sonic adventure 3 because of this. we're lucky enough to get tails, knuckles and amy at all these days because sega and/or sonic team caved into the "sonic's stupid friends are the problem" complaint. in terms of story presentation its a much different vibe not only in tone but length/pacing as well. SA2 and heroes cutscenes were short, simple, to the point and almost arcade like in a way. with 06 story i can see what they were going with, i have read insights from fans and it all does sound alright on paper but in execution it leaves a lot to be desired.

[@awesomex1031]

Sonic 06 was the first game I ever played. I know it's bad, but the nostalgia hits so hard for me.

[@lordescanor8232]

yeah best game, the bugs just makes this game unique lmfo

[@traviscunningham7062]

What about Mario Sunshine?

[@awesomex1031]

@@traviscunningham7062 I've played it twice (on GC and Switch), years after 06, 100% both times and I found it to be pretty fun after Galaxy was too easy for me.

[@RichardGarcia93]

Damn you’re young

[@echecdelareconaisancefacia5225]

I do agree with awsomex because have you played Sonic boom wii u ? that sucks more then 06 and if you think 06 is the worst game then you didn't played boom. And boom we'll never get a remake fan game like 06. If you hate 06 then play Project 06 or Sonic Unleashed or Sonic Frontiers.

[@Phil_is_coding]

I know it can be more taxing/time consuming to create 30 minute videos, but holy crap was it just what I needed. As always, fantastic points, perfect editing with the funny parts here and there (especially 19:57) and spot-on discussion points. Plus new Spontman video is always welcome on my homepage

[@fictionalmediabully9830]

I loved Sonic 06 as a kid; I loved almost anything with Sonic's face on it, so I naturally enjoyed my time. I haven't played it since, and I prefer to keep it that way for as long as possible so that my nostalgia won't have to die a pitiful death. I will hold my hands up and admit I sometimes enjoy a bad game; I still play "South Park Rally" on PlayStation often, despite its many fundamental problems, and some are fun to study like "Bubsy 3D". That said, as time goes on, I lose motivation to engage with the bad considering how short life is and how much better it can be by consistently engaging in the good. Good video.

[@drkspnova]

Can't believe Shadow made a review of 06

[@theonlyxenot]

I've never played Sonic 06 even though I grew up with this franchise, maybe one day I'll experience this game myself even though it has many bugs that won't stop me from playing it. Great video as usual and keep up the good work. Oh yes and happy birthday Sonic!

[@Michael_Afton40]

Well technically you can But it doesn't have nearly as many bugs as the retail version

[@fikridroid]

If I were to remake 06... - Implement gameplay fixes from P-06 - More difficulty mode, with Easy difficulty ditching life system and has fewer hits to defeat the boss (borrowed from Colors Ultimate) - Playable Super Hedgehogs for act trial mode, unlockable after completing the game in Normal or harder difficulty - Remake the graphics, in style of Frontiers using Hedgehog Engine 2 - Some rewrite to fill plot holes and pacing, including Blaze's backstory and her relation to 06's lore, keeping most of the original plot elements intact - (Optionally) slap the title Adventure 3 and call it a day

[@msporte0999]

Not gonna say Sonic 06 is the best sonic game (ignore previous statements in which i said exactly that), but it is by far my favorite. It did so many things right, introduced a new fan-favorite character, added what is, to this day, the most bone-chilling sonic villain, and made the best side-power systems (chaos boost/gems) of any game, but they had to do something to ruin it, as sega does. Instead of focusing on their series' 15th anniversary, they went and split the team for a Wii game. I replay 06 about once or twice a year, and I play project 06 a lot, and if 06 had the love ChaosX put into P-06, and the budget of retail 06 (plus nowadays graphics, I can'tgo back), it would have been, as many say it already is, a masterpiece. Great story, great new hero, great villain, TERRIBLE execution. Still my favorite though, and nothings changing that.

[@Antonio-is2cn]

28:36 Despite what the Internet says Sonic 2006 is still one of my favorite Sonic games! It's definitely Sonic's weirdest adventure ever and that's why I love it!

[@roodyg5352]

Playing Sonic Unleashed after this game was a breath of fresh air to me back in 08 lol

[@glowdonk]

I suffered with the original 06 aswell, but on the PS3 versions one of the reasons I liked it was because I saw its potential, which got wasted on the deadlines and development being so crappy P06 made that potential shine like a diamond

[@DarkAnomaly]

I can't believe I finished this game 100%. It was just horrendous to put it mildly.

[@utopian4769]

I will die on the hill that 06's story was originally meant for Blaze instead of Elise. They share certain things in common and I struggle to dismiss it as coincidence. The association with fire, both being royal princesses, their kingdoms even have the word Sol in it. Not to mention both of them also had Iblis sealed within themselves. I theorized on a separate video of another Ytuber that the game was originally meant to take place in the Sol dimension. Iblis was going to be Blaze's Perfect Chaos, which is why they look alike. Silver was meant to come from Blaze's future and she was going to have a vision of Silver to foreshadow his role in the story, which is why Elise had that weird premonition during the Festival that was never explained. The gem on Blaze's forehead that was never explained in Rush's lore was meant to be a seal to contain Iblis's power. This is a reach but the Sceptre of Darkness might have even been a substitute for the Jeweled Sceptre being what sealed Solaris away. It's thoughts like this that make me think 06 should get an official remake. Its story elements has too much massive potential to just let it fade into obscurity.

[@spontman]

Whether it was ever considered by the devs or not, this is a great idea. This would fix so many of my gripes with this game's story.

[@carnage0685]

Looking at it now, yeah, there's just no way it wasn't originally intended to be for Blaze. That's probably why Blaze is just sort of there for a lot of the game. No fucking clue why they made Elise, LOL. I mean, I don't actually hate her or anything, but she really isn't a necessary character, and the way they use her holds Sonic back a lot.

[@utopian4769]

@@carnage0685 I feel like they just didn't know in what direction to go with Sonic's story, because they had a clear route with what they did with Shadow and Silver's. Being pressed for time didn't help. I think Sonic and Elise's dynamic fell apart because the two just don't have any chemistry, not just romantically but their friendship feels hollow. I remember years ago reading a fanfiction of an 06 rewrite where Elise acted more tsundere, and she didn't get along with Sonic at first because she started off seeing him as irresponsible and reckless. But overtime she started to warm up to him, open up with him about her struggles with the pressures of being a noble and the trauma at having a parents die so young and it was evident that her adventures with Sonic had her feeling more free from her burdens. It kept Elise human but also kept them as friends. Man I wish I remember what it was called, there was more thought put into it's plot and character development than the entirety of Sonic's story in 06.

[@SocksFC]

I thought it was originally meant to be some random fantasy game but then they added the Sonic characters in

[@Chillipeffer]

@@SocksFC ironically it might be the other way around

[@prvg7851]

P-06 is the best Sonic Game ever made!

[@Nickika]

Yes

[@coconutgun325]

06 was ahead of its time thats for sure.Kinda like virtual boy,it was released on a time when it wasnt ready

[@ClaytonKay_Music]

AYO! HE'S ALIVE!

[@-oldhope-]

so true

[@-oldhope-]

motion capture on eggman 🕺

[@captaindynamite8936]

As a kid, 06 was my introduction to Sonic. I’ve always liked it for the ideas it had but not all of my memories of it were so positive.

[@Cruddy129]

And Frontiers rebuilt that icon being the most successful game in the series, topping sonic heroes that held that title, believe it or not

[@pinhe4d321]

Didn't outsell Heroes yet

[@crypticforevz]

Not enough

[@mrmelonman2893]

@@pinhe4d321 now it did

[@Jesus_is_the_addiction8960]

I grew up playing this on the 360 and I still play it on my 360 to this day. I’ve always loved the game even now when I noticed all of the problems I still love it

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

At the end of the game they erase what happened though. Yes they did but, it still happened. By that logic Ocarina of Time isn’t canon because Zelda sends Link back in Time at the end.

[@bluekel615]

Exactly, Super Mario Galaxy 1 might as well not be canon while we're at it.

[@Creature665]

Sonic 06 was probably going to be pretty good I blame Sega for rushing Sonic Team. It seems like Sega FINALLY chilled out and is letting games come out when they're done

[@onyxcrimsonblur]

I got S-06 at launch. It was the first game I bought with my own money as a birthday gift to myself. I was frustrated with the game, raged at it, and when I finally beat it I didn't touch it again for years. I wish I was one of the lucky ones that didn't have any glitches in their playthrough, but sadly I had so many. The good ideas and beautiful scenery were ruined by countless terrible glitches, bad collision detection, drawn out sequences, the mach-speed sections, and even though I like the concept of Shadow driving vehicles from GUN, it fell flat on its face. Even so, the only character that was remotely playable was Shadow (and that's not my bias talking). I had the least amount of problems with his campaign as compared to Sonic or Silver. Sure, there were collision issues and his combat (even though I loved it) definitely needed polish. I enjoyed him being more combat oriented but the move set could've been improved. The most frustrating part of his campaign was the Kingdom Valley watercraft section. Sonic's gameplay was riddled with issues from getting stuck on everything, falling through the level, the bad air controls when jumping, stunted homing attacks, bad enemy placement, constant restarts and the punishment of essential move sets not working that I actually stopped playing as him as soon as I unlocked Shadow because I was frustrated so severely by his lack of polish. Silver was the most lackluster out of the three even though he was the newest addition. His concept was fantastic but it was executed so poorly it made it difficult to play in some parts and down-right near impossible in others. There was also the inconsistency in his power usage. The highlight of Silver's campaign was any time I got to play as Blaze. It's like there was more love given to her character than the main two hedgehogs that played very similar to her. Sadly I don't have a computer strong enough to play Project 06 right now but I'd love to just to see what could've been if SEGA would've taken the time to polish their game. But right now, '06 still leaves that sour taste in my mouth.

[@-oldhope-]

criminally under-viewed

[@mober7430]

Saying the series never recovered is an overstatement. It might have affected the series but Sonic has recovered since then because most of the games and content in general that were made after being good. Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Unwiished, Sonic Rush Adventure, Sonic Colors, Sonic Colors DS, Sonic Generations, Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing, Sonic Generations 3DS, Sonic Lost World (debatable), Sonic Mania, Sonic IDW Comics, Sonic Team Racing, Sonic Origins, Sonic Frontiers, and Sonic Twitter Takeovers.

[@jeffjefferson2853]

Sonic has never truly recovered because Sega no longer gives the games the budgets and time they need, and the series can't find an identity to stick with. The only games since 06 that truly fulfilled their intended vision were Generations and Mania, even the great ones like Unleashed had a heavy dose of jank and failure mixed in. Sonic is now a series filled with low confidence and half-bakery, and it's reputation is still tarnished in the eyes of the masses. Compare Sonic to Resident Evil, another series that ruined its reputation (after the release of 6). But nobody talks about 6 anymore. Why? Because Capcom just cares about Resident Evil far more than Sega cares about Sonic, they give their series the time and budget it deserves. Even with hiccups like the RE3 remake, they immediately turn back around and produce two iconic bangers (Village and 4 remake). I hope things change for Sonic, I really do. Sonic deserves better than what Sega is giving him

[@schemar17]

Reason sonic 06 got so much hate is because sonic was getting worse by the year 06 was the final straw and now sega caters to weirdos who dont play sonic games.

[@waddlesp7102]

Great video, I agreed with many of your points stated. Do you think you’ll ever make an unleashed retrospective?

[@spontman]

That's next!

[@waddlesp7102]

@@spontman that’s great! Can’t wait to see it 😊

[@RyneMcKinney]

6:24 Skyrim came out in 2012 though... This applies more to Oblivion

[@ShadeBaxterLive]

i like the concept of 06, but the team just didnt have enough time to fully make it

[@neonjm8289]

I skipped out on this one, never looked fun to me. Even just by looking at it, Sonic looks like he's so weird to control. He's also so slow, people compare this game's speed to that of a Mario game, whoever says that has never played or seen a Mario game.

[@JustJulyo]

Sonic 06 revived the name Sonic The Hedgehog

[@LadyAndreaRose1701]

I broke my gaming teeth on OG Sonic 1. This game broke my heart

[@Chamillitary44]

I said it before, I'll say it again. This, this right here, is the game that needs to be remastered/remade the most. Imo it had the potential to be the best 3D Sonic game, if not the best Sonic game, ever.

[@traviscunningham7062]

Wanna know something funny? Twilight Princess which came out a few days before Sonic 06, was actually more successful.

[@allanrst0485]

Because it wasnt rushed,and dónt suffer the same problems as Sonic team during the development of Sonic 06

[@traviscunningham7062]

Twilight Princess was originally released in 2005, but they delayed it to 2006.

[@g8tr80]

I played Sonic 06 as a kid with my dad a lot when I visited him. So im a bit little biased for why I got such fond memories of it. But even I remember me and my dad raging at the multiplayer shit, especially the sand wave level that was ridiculously hard (or I was just bad and my dad was too)

[@Artogeddin]

I remember buying this after missing out on sonic after the Genesis... this was something.

[@NO.10162]

Out of curiosity though, what do you mean by "recover"? As in what would qualify as such in your eyes.

[@spsfitnessstrudley7718]

Shadow completes his story ark in shadow the hedgehog otherwise it would just be left out so it’s part of the mainline

[@Lunacorva]

Doesn't Shadow the Hedgehog completely undo his story arc?

[@majinblussb]

Am I the only one who genuinely enjoy the vanilla game without the need for nostalgia bias(I’m a teen and bought the game last Christmas. I thought it was good for the most part)?

[@majinblussb]

(Can’t edit on the website apparently) also great video. I liked the perspective that was given and the lesson that not everyone has the patience(or sanity or something) to enjoy even a critical failure such as 06 and no matter how enjoyable it was, it’s ungodly number of flaws and issues at launch nearly destroyed the franchise we all know and love. This is simply reality, but considering the direction the franchise is now taking, I’m cool with it. Anyways, great vid👍🏽

[@greenplasmaclownsonic2668]

You are not the only one. If you enjoyed it, then I'm sure plenty of other people did too. Besides, even as an adult who played this game as a kid, I've only gotten better at the game and appreciate some of its aspects more than I did before. I'm glad you have a fun time with it.

[@johnshea7871]

The Xbox 360 version was slightly more stable and looked cleaner

[@murkywaters5502]

Cool video, dude.

[@reggielacey2235]

06 is my favorite game

[@deecollinssuperitandficays863]

You Know.....I'm Making A Series Called "The Universal Adventures Series" which has been worked on ever since 2020 and I'm reanimating all of it , because the original version of the story was in comics that I hand made out of notebooks. The episode I'm working on right now is episode 6 for my KZbin Channel series and it includes our blue hedgehog friend here and much more new original ideas. And It takes a darker story for a series and turns it into what Sonic 06 could have been but at the same time its (it's) own thing apart from some of the OG games. The series takes place 32 years after Sonic Unleashed.

[@christian-bt7ci]

So, can it be remade for a better experience?

[@SuspiciousCat13]

How the actual f*ck did Elise’s dad expect her not to cry?

[@Ixapter]

3:43 = Mmmmm. Blue spaghetti...

[@apselbluestar2223]

I would agree with the message of this video in Frontiers wasn't turning things around like it is

[@Flamefrosty]

If your opinion on an entire franchise is ruined because of one game that came out more than a decade ago Are you still even a fan?

[@dwainsimmons3447]

The same with dubs. If you’re complaining about dubs being bad because of one company that’s gone for 12 years, then you’re even more stuck in the past than the company.

[@DarkAronest]

I replayed Sonic 06 on Xenia and I have to say it's still an underated Game

[@sergeantdoomkin8873]

Wave ocean sounds nothing like take on me rofl.

[@jboyathegamer]

Sonic 06 was my first sonic game and i always thought it was good because me and my brother would always hope for a remake because i wanted to see a remake but it never happened

[@mikeclark7026]

Shadow is UNQUESTIONABLY mainline.

[@riveravelazquezbrandonkevi6087]

My guy you're like 13 years later to the whole Sonic 06 bad video game essays

[@spontman]

ok

[@-oldhope-]

Truth is never too late. 😞 smh. . .

[@pinhe4d321]

​@@-oldhope-Yeah, this truth is one of the least needed things in this fanbase as of today.

[@thejoker194]

To be fair sonic rn is doing the best it’s ever has with sonic prime (being reviewed very well), sonic frontiers (selling more then 3 million units, and sonic superstars (looks very promising).

[@spontman]

It's definitely the best that it has been in a long time. When it comes to 3D Sonic though... I feel we're not quite there yet.

[@thejoker194]

@@spontman yea I kinda agree but lucky sonic team has been listening to us on Twitter, so maybe we might get a amazing sonic 3D one day

[@spontman]

@@thejoker194 Yeah, Morio Kishimoto has been a good sport about the criticism for Frontiers which is awesome. Even the fact that they're adding the spindash to the game is pretty neat.

[@mojojojox5043]

I haven't played 06 so I don't have anything to say about gameplay, but I do have some of my own comments on a few things said here. So first off on Dan Green's Knuckles, I get where you are coming from and I read the text you put in the video and your comment down below. His 06 performance is nothing to write home about, it's a job and that's about it. He is my favorite voice for Knuckles and he does a good job with the character in Sonic X. He just sounds tough, a lot of the other voices for the character are missing that. The only one that has that toughness I feel is the newest va for him. I'll talk about the music in another comment, it will also give you more comments so hopefully the yt overlord likes that.

[@Benjawin6671]

Scott Dreier was better

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

Not only intended. It is a continuity reboot. The creator of the game said so. It’s still canon. Fans could say whatever they want but, it’s canon.

[@havenisthebest99]

I remember getting vanilla 06 on PS3 back when I was a kid, and I actually liked it. And to this day, I still sometimes go back in just to play through the level to get some of that nostalgic dopamine. Now that I’m an adult, I can see that 06 is not a good game, it has many flaws, and is far from a good game, but I don’t give a damn. I love it. The multiple playable characters, engaging multi-layered narrative(despite how shit it is) and Silver’s powers are pretty cool. Sega’s never touching the game again, but maybe we can help give 06 a second chance in the eyes of casuals who are too scarred by this game to give newer ones a chance

[@iwanttocomplain]

It's funny how a game from 2006 can look better and more exciting than the latest for PS5.

[@terno_gatovamp]

bro shut up

[@iwanttocomplain]

@@terno_gatovamp why aren't you watching the new Nintendo Direct? You realise the quality on offer!?

[@godzillatoons3947]

Star Wars Force Unleashed was released around the same time, and it looked amazing! At least on PC,Xbox 360, and PS3.

[@traviscunningham7062]

SW FW was released in 2008, S06 was released in 2006.

[@godzillatoons3947]

@@traviscunningham7062 ok, you’re most certainly right.

[@rileyhoward7344]

underrated masterpiece? no. enjoyable IF you know what you're doing and can exploit some if not all of the glitches? absolutely. i love the game, but i will never deny that it was a failure both critically and developmentally.

[@jordancromwell]

Have you tried P-06?

[@spontman]

yup

[@phorchybug3286]

My only problem was trying to jump up a really tall wall. Im not a glitcher like anybody else.

[@Alph4Falc0]

I actually like retail 06 over p06

[@traviscunningham7062]

Why? Because of glitches?

[@mojojojox5043]

Now the part of the video that I found the most interesting, music. I have listened to the ost twice and I skimmed through it to get a refresher for this comment, I won't mention the great songs you already talked about that are very good. I'll start with Wave Ocean, there's two version of this one where it's the waters edge and the inlet. The waters edge has a great chill feel to it that works, now the part that you said sounds like take on me and is derivative. I never got Take on Me vibes when I listened to it; for the song to be truly derivative it needs to have similar instrumentation which Wave Ocean Inlet doesn't have. In Take On Me the bass is very punchy and groovy, Wave Ocean doesn't have that. The percussion is also a completely different style, Take On Me also uses lots of synths which aren't used a whole lot in Wave Ocean, just subtly in the background. The biggest difference is the electric guitars, Take On Me actually has acoustic guitars in the background but you can barely hear them with the vocals. They have no where near the same tone as the e-guitars in Wave Ocean, the only thing similar with them is the riffs. The riff played on the final chorus in Take On Me sounds alike to an extent to the one in Wave Ocean Inlet, but they have completely different feels since WOI is going for punk while TOM is not. So I do not agree that WOI is derivative since it lacks many similarities. A good example of a derivative song in Sonic is the original music used for Sonic in Lego Dimensions (I promise my comments on the rest of the songs will not be this long). I find that there's quite a few pretty good songs like: Soleana New City, Flame Core, Radical Train, Aquatic Base and Crisis City. The boss themes are pretty forgettable with the exception of Solaris Phase 2 which is one of the best boss themes in the franchises history. The thing I noticed you didn't really mention is the other vocal themes, His World isn't the only one and the other versions of that song are pretty great as well. All Hail Shadow is super cool, Dreams of an Absolution is super fun and My Destiny is quite beautiful. I do agree that it's not as good as some claim it to be but it's far from being mid. There's plenty of great songs in the ost.

[@spontman]

I do like most of the tracks you listed, but it's hard for me to ignore just how much of the rest of the soundtrack is made up of mediocre tracks like Tropical Jungle, Dusty Desert, Soleanna Castle Town, most of the boss tracks, etc. The game has a few bangers, but I feel like the quality of the OST as a whole is often overstated, especially considering the rest of the series.

[@mojojojox5043]

​@@spontman fair enough, can't argue with that.

[@sharkapuppet]

Bro you couldn’t wait til tomorrow to upload this? It’s my boys birthday today, let him live. 😢

[@gengargamer5657]

Personally, I really enjoy playing this game and its despite the flaws. Heck, I’d much rather play this over SA1, and I will die on that hill

[@TimDespairBear11]

I think Elise is a reference to how sonic was going to have a human girlfriend when he was still called needle mouse. Anyways I honestly like sonic 06 even with it’s flaws. It’s definitely not a “hidden masterpiece” but it has decent aspects to it.

[@oranjaglad8648]

I always thought Elise was meant to be an attempt at bringing back Madonna (aka the scrapped human girlfriend) and her concept in some way too.

[@bunsmasterbunny]

The fact Madonna was ever a thing invalidates peoples hatred of SonicxElise. It’s not bestiality there’s nothing wrong with it.

[@oranjaglad8648]

@@bunsmasterbunny Also Sara from the Sonic OVA. I also bring her up because she’s some sort of half human/cat hybrid.

[@bunsmasterbunny]

@@oranjaglad8648Honestly how people were fine with that but not this is hypocritical. Sonic isn’t the onky mainstream franchise that does this (Mario, Zelda, and many others do the same). Sonic is the only one where people loathe it.

[@oranjaglad8648]

@@bunsmasterbunny I mean, I guess people didn't like the Sonic and Elise thing mainly because of the way their relationship was handled (even I'll admit it was kinda bland; hell, they seemed more like friends throughout most of 06 than a couple, up until the infamous kiss scene, of course), but the thing is, people almost always scream that it's "bEaStiAliTy" as the main reason for why they hate it. Yet when Bowser, a literal turtle/dragon, tries to get with Peach, a human, in almost every single Mario game, no one cares.

[@tlst94]

7:35 What's the song's name? And who was its artist?

[@spontman]

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[@tlst94]

@@spontman Saved it to my playlist. Thanks. Also, what would you have changed about the Sonic series if you had a time machine? And what would be the outcome?

[@spontman]

@@tlst94 I would've had a game that expands/improves the Adventure formula in place of Heroes.

[@Izywik92]

@@spontmanyou’ve officially become my favorite Sonic KZbinr for saying that

[@Kookie_13_]

im kinda glad 06 got ruin bc p06 is probably better than anything sega couldve done even if given the time and resources bc of all the qol features

[@KnarlyKnux]

7:14 can we please get a full version

[@9ALiTY]

Don't think the world needed it's 5000th Video Review of Sonic 06 talking about how it was buggy, never patched, exc, exc...

[@spontman]

ok

[@pinhe4d321]

​@@spontmanHe isn't wrong

[@DSmith3279]

Apparently it did bc so many people are trying to say that 06 wasn't intrinsically flawed and that the game would have been amazing if the game wasn't full of bugs and had more polish. It wasn't just bugs and technical issues that doomed 06, it was bad ideas and bad execution of said bag ideas. The levels sucked, the bosses sucked, the game looks bad even for an early PS3 game, and every facet of the writing was atrocious from the plot to the character writing.

[@precieux6303]

watch the video😂😂😂simple as . Tryna put limitations on people because you cant take someone saying 06 sucks

[@9ALiTY]

@@precieux6303 I just have heard the same thing time & time again. It gets old. Its just stale

[@Yuli_Ban]

Funny you say the music sounds derivative and use Wave Ocean > Take On Me. I can kind of hear it, but it's not quite there. When there's a much more blatantly obvious example in the soundtrack. There's a riff in Radical Train's second act/mach speed section that is, I shit you not, a NOTE FOR NOTE ripoff of Rage Against the Machine's "Bombtrack" intro. Of course, I find that a COOL easter egg, but still, that'd fit your example better. Similarly, in White Acropolis's second act, there's a part of the music that sounds downright identical to the Shadow Moses theme from Metal Gear Solid. Fitting considering similar aesthetics between both but again, still....

[@spontman]

Yeeeeah in hindsight I cringe at that part of this video. I think I just thought it would be funny to make a mashup of them since they share a similar chord progression, but yeah they really don't have any similarities outside of that.

[@NO.10162]

Well there is sonic p06.

[@inkchariot6147]

I feel like Frontiers is a spiritual successor to this game, the story is close to the same level of depth (especially the plot of Update 3, which I will not talk about) The return of photosurrealism (A realistic world but heavily stylized) And characterization that isn't as shallow as a puddle.

[@fikridroid]

Same, update 3's trailer got me hyped! September 28th can't come soon enough haha

[@josemo9204]

Rofl that burp

[@DrCoeloCephalo]

All these long essays in video, text and audio just for everyone on the internet to say unanimously that this game stinks. 28:11 TBF, Love makes people do crazy things. In fact, Amy also said in this game's story the if given the choice between the world and Sonic, she would choose Sonic. Silver also pondered this question. It's just an exaggeration of the trolley problem.

[@shadowmarquez6196]

You know, they could do the whole fur thing now. Since console hardware has improved since then.

[@captaincz5763]

I'm sorry but what a terrible way to describe Dan Green's performance as Knuckles. Ik we have to respect opinions here but damn this one is NOT it. He captures Knuckles' tough attitude perfectly. Both this and the modern voice don't sound anywhere near like surfer dudes. Maybe the modern take is a lot more laid back, but it's nothing crazy like other 4Kids voice actors. Other than that, it's a solid video yet again.

[@captaincz5763]

It did definitely take a while for the cast to finally get a grip on their characters' voices but the disrespect here is so wild lmao. Have you ever heard any of their other performances?

[@-oldhope-]

wild mice 🐁 ?

[@spontman]

I regret simplifying my opinion for this script because I ended up sounding way more negative about Dan Green than I intended. I don't think his voice acting is bad or anything, I just don't think it's a good fit for Knuckles.

[@ShooterGreeneMusic]

I got this game Christmas 2006 for 360 I grew up before that playing the adventure games on my GameCube I was 5 at the time I’m 21 now I beat 06 no problem as a child I think y’all just suck at video games lol

[@KOTSOSMC2002]

Played 06 for the first time in May of 2022 on my journey to play the entire franchise chronologically in preparation for Frontiers (had 0 experience with the franchise prior to this undertaking so I have no nostalgia for anything). 06 is good. In fact, 06 is REALLY good. When I rank the mainline games it always finds its way to the top 5.

[@carnage0685]

how is it good lmao

[@KOTSOSMC2002]

@@carnage0685 One of the most intriguing stories in the entire franchise to follow (on the games side at least) that is nowhere near as plot holy as everyone pretends it is and furthermore there are games that are just as if not even more plot holy and that includes SA2, the fanbase is hypocritical AF every time they use this as a reason to hate on the game. Best voice acting at the time in the franchise for both English and Japanese excluding SatAM. Best villain in the entire franchise in Mephiles the Dark. Good graphics and charming mo-cap that is overhated AF. A banger soundtrack that is easily the best in the entire franchise and it's not even close. The introduction of Silver, one of the most beloved extended cast members in the series. Speaking of the extended cast, they're all at their best in 06 excluding Knuckles and Tails, the characterization is absolutely spot on and that goes double for Shadow who has never been that good before and hasn't been that good since. Level design is mostly peak, 2P Mode is fun AF, gameplay is amazing and has depth and the hub worlds are iconic, if Soleanna wasn't hated due to 06 bias it would dead@$$ be the be one of the most beloved locations in the series. Sonic Man slaps and should have been a huge hit, needs to return. The bad of 06 are: Poor performance, especially on the PS3, that isn't as bad as people pretend it is, with most glitches needing you to go out of your way to find em, you rarely encounter anything in a casual playthrough. The snowboarding section sucks bad. The mach speed sections are phenomenal set pieces but are abysmal to play through, with terrible collision and controls. Rouge's wall climbing on Kingdom Valley is not functioning well. The Town Missions for the most part suck and the loading screens are an issue only if you do the Town Missions, on a casual playthrough they are not an issue whatsoever and don't last long, especially on the XBOX 360. Blaze's implementation into the narrative is very muddy and poorly thought out and even tho her inclusion is welcome and she gets a fascinating role in Silver's Episode she doesn't get introduced properly which kinda sours it. Sonic's Episode is the weakest one of all, while it has standout moments with Elise especially (him saving her at the intro, them escaping the Egg Carrier, them at that lake with the tree etc), she gets abducted like 7 times which is both repetitive and lame. 06 *IS* a good game, most of the bad even tho deserving of criticism like I did up there are too isolated and short-lived to negatively infact the experience that much. Sonic 06 is a 7/10 at worst and an 8/10 at best, it really is.

[@Benjawin6671]

@@carnage0685 it's not

[@Benjawin6671]

@@KOTSOSMC2002 Literally everything you said is either misinformation or completely inaccurate. The story is filled with unnecessary plot holes with the time travel schtick. The glitches are not overexaggerated in the slightest as pretty much everyone encounters one without even trying. The voice acting is absolutely terrible and that goes without saying. SA1 came out in 1998 and 06 makes that games voice acting sound like the Japanese delivery. Ryan Drummond will always be the best English Sonic. Level design is mid. Controls are terrible. Visuals are terrible with the mo cap and the terrible models. Pretty much every 3D Sonic game prior to this one is more polished, more visually appealing, better designed, better written, better voiced (particularly Heroes), and less infuriating than this one. 2/10

[@KOTSOSMC2002]

@@Benjawin6671 Nope.

[@Rambo5l0]

Everytime someone tends to make a video on why the game is bad they always show their mediocre gameplay, look back at all the videos about people ranting on the game and you could see all they do is spam the homing attack and nothing more. Of course you’re going to have to a bad time if you spam a single move the entire game. I never see no one talk about the gem shoes and how they can help the player take out enemies in different ways or how shadow can stun a group of enemies with chaos spear while also being able to release his chaos powers to warp through groups of enemies. I know the game is rushed and had problems but I still enjoyed every bit of it on ps3. 100% the game with all S-ranks and silver medals and I still would rather hop on Sonic 06 than a game like Sonic frontiers. No hate towards that game or any meta game, just my opinion. Also how do you even know if the people who called it a masterpiece never played the original? You just assume they didn’t and call their opinions “misinformation”.

[@spontman]

I can only assume you either didn't watch the whole video or just weren't paying very close attention. I mentioned the gems (though I'll admit I never thought to try them in combat), I used Chaos Spear and Shadow's other moves even in my footage, and I acknowledged the people who enjoy the original version toward the end of the video. I certainly didn't start out making this video wanting to make it about "Why Game Bad". I've been spending the past year replaying every major 3D Sonic game with an open mind, and these videos are just my thoughts afterward poured onto a script.

[@Rambo5l0]

@@spontman wasn’t specifically talking about you. I was just stating the fact that usually when youtubers make a video on why the games is bad they use their worse gameplay footage to push their point of view on the game.

[@spontman]

My apologies then, I suppose.

[@MysticClaws100]

@@Rambo5l0 The reason they use the homing attack is because it's the most effective move. The bounce attack is good to use on enemies that take multiple hits but otherwise, it's generally just not really worth using the other attacks. The white gem is completely useless, just another homing attack that takes longer to use, the green gem is only useful in like 1 or 2 circumstances, the spin dash is shit for both movement and combat purposes and the spin kick/slide attack are really the only other acceptable option for combat. Regardless of what options you use as whatever character you're playing as, the combat just gets repetitive fast and the game gives you way too much required combat sections in a game that has no depth in its combat mechanics and is supposed to be about going fast. This is even more the case for Shadow and Silver who have even more required combat and don't really have any more options than Sonic for combat. For Silver, it's almost always best to just do that ground pound attack to stun the enemies which gets repetitive but is the only effective way of clearing out enemies. For Shadow, he has basically the same options as Sonic to either use homing attacks (except slower for Shadow) or spin kick. He doesn't even have access to a slide, spin dash or the gems Sonic does but he does get chaos powers which are absolutely useless. Shadow's chaos blast is laughable in this game and stunning enemies with his chaos spear never really helps you

[@robbycooper6787]

Can we stop talking about this, it’s like 20 years old

[@AlmyTheAlien]

It never ceases to amuse me that the only reason Shadow directly states for not helping Mephiles wipe out the human race is that he doesn't want to be told what to do. Before people crucify me I'd like to state I know that's not the SOLE reason and maybe he just doesn't want to give his adversary any more information than he needs to but "I don't wanna destroy the world because you're telling me to and I hate being told what to do!" is just the perfect edgy hardass response to a question he didn't really need to answer.

[@Michael_Afton40]

Sonic 06 will forever be one of the worst games that was near franchise killing But Project 06 proves that it could've worked and it could've been an amazing game The only thing that could redeem sonic 06 is an official remake done properly

[@bunsmasterbunny]

Yeah no. Interspecies romance is common in fiction. There's nothing wrong with 06's way of doing it. If you can take Sonic having serious plots in the adventure games you can take this. It isn't even the first time they've done it since the creator of Shadow (Shiro Maekawa) actively ships Shadow and Maria on Twitter. He isn't a real hedgehog so the argument of weirdness goes out the window.

[@MysticClaws100]

How Shadow and Maria's relationship is portrayed in the games is not weird at all. Why is what the creator says on twitter at all relevant? He was clearly smart enough not to put that shit in SA2. Having Elise kiss a dead hedgehog back to life and having a romance between them that is taken 100% seriously unironically, is fucking weird. Usually, any "interspecies romance" in fiction is deliberately ridiculous and not taken seriously. And every time I've ever seen it done, it's between a real person and a cartoon. When this game is trying to be as realistic as possible, trying to make Sonic look realistic in a realistic world, then I just can't accept that.

[@4zy1]

I don't think people would have cared as much if Sonic and Elise didn't look so out of place next to each other. And if Sonic wasn't a rotting corpse when she kissed him.

[@bunsmasterbunny]

@@MysticClaws100Nah, there's nothing "Weird" about this either. It happens in many other franchises in the exact same way. It isn't "bestiality" or immoral ya'll are just hypocrites. If the series can be taken seriously like in SA2 where a little girl gets gunned down so can this.

[@bunsmasterbunny]

@@4zy1They don't. An intentional contrast that does not look bad. It's not the first nor the last time the series employed realism. People kiss their loved ones goodbye at funerals all the time so not valid.

[@Flamefrosty]

@@4zy1it was stated in the same scene that Sonic wasn’t truly dead yet

[@Simply_resharkable]

It ruined a character, but finally after almost 2 decades, he's getting back

[@joe_kloos8512]

If Shadow the Hedgehog knocked the series off its feet then Sonic 06 ensured it would never get back up.

[@mechakirby9576]

calm down dude, yeah 06 is bad nobody is negating that part people are celebrating that yes 06 can be good, like i get it peoples extremism when is about any sonic post 3&k is annoying but you act like this is the unleashed debate where the general consensus keep changing. and btw i find ironic that un 2023 people are still mad a the whole princess thing is the most shallow thing people keep bashing about 17 years later even if we are talking in retrospective.

[@nnamditube6477]

I feel like sonic's death didn't just ruin the reputation of the franchise but also ruined the fanbase and also his death showed that sega doesn't care about sonic anymore even though he helped the company because sonic didn't save their console at the end

[@Benjawin6671]

I've never played this game nor do I intend to because why would I? But at the end of the day great review as always! I'm glad I'm not the only person who isn't too fond of Jason's take on Sonic. Particularly from X to this game he just sounded super weak. I will admit starting with Unleashed he actually started to sound pretty good but not enough to top the GOAT Ryan Drummond. I will say J Griff's voice works quite well for Shadow even in this game. I'm also surprised you didn't mention Rouge's VA as she was probably the worst VA the series had to offer. It's also very strange that they replaced Veronica Taylor (voice of Ash Ketchum) with Lacey Chabert (voice of Meg Griffin of all characters) as the voice of Elise. Playing P-06 does show the amount of potential this game has and I have nothing but respect for ChaosX. That being said this is probably as good as I can see 06 realistically ever being and I still think both Adventure games and Heroes are just overall better designed games.

[@ShadowThe771]

Spontmon’s review is probably in the top 3 of Sonic 06 reviews that I’ve ever seen. The other two are Geek Critique and J’s Review’s.

[@Kwizzy8406]

OK, so, this video came out 3 days ago, meaning it came after 2022 what many sonic fans called a “year of sonic”, he’s clearly never played the sonic 06 fan game, which shows the hidden potential behind this game, and he only goes over how bad the game is, even though a lot of us already know how bad it is. Instead of restating all the bad things people have said, tell us the damage that it did to the franchise, instead of just saving it for the end of the video.

[@rubyrose312]

The game came out nearly twenty years ago, give it a break! Sonic is the most popular he has ever been in over thirty years and no one is bringing up Sonic 06 anymore except for Sonic "fans" who love going on about how Sonic 06 killed the franchise and how it has never been the same or people who are playing Project 06 which has proven at this point that Sonic 06 is a good game beyond the technical issues!

[@-oldhope-]

as someone who isn't a sonic fan, even I can see that previous games were better lmao, so saying the whole "give it a break, it's old excuse" does NOT work tbh. . . tbh smh. . . smh my head. . . smh my toes. . . smhmh. . . ess im aych. . . ssssss. . . smh my elbows. . . . smh: sonic: my hero 🦸‍♂️ sonic. sonic. shit.

[@spontman]

I'm not going to skip Sonic '06 in a series where I'm reviewing every mainline 3D Sonic game.

[@rubyrose312]

@@spontman Fair enough, I'm just personally tired of seeing 06 treated as this absolutely unredeemable thing that ruined Sonic and he can never be good again when games past 06 are fine for the most part! The quality of Sonic games mostly remained the same with some good games here and there, a few mediocre games, and one or two awful games.

[@rubyrose312]

@@-oldhope- Huh? I'm not comparing it to the previous games or saying it is better than them, I'm saying 06 is a nearly twenty year old game and to act like it is still hurting the franchise is laughable when Sonic has long since moved past it and is more popular now than he was when 06 released!

[@-oldhope-]

@@rubyrose312 wild mice

[@pinhe4d321]

Wow, people have opinions??

[@Nothavinit00]

I have points I agree and disagree with, but for the most part, it seems like you didn't pay any real attention to the plot, and your gameplay was not that good either. Glitches or not, I've seen far better gameplay. Including myself as well.

[@bunsmasterbunny]

No one does.

[@Chucky_the_killerdoll]

Great video. Although I was one of the minority who enjoyed 06 despite the painstakingly long loading screens and glitches... It still could've had potential. Hopefully project 06 will revive the game for a better outlook.

[@Amit7.]

‏‪0:53‬‏ 😂 it's no use

[@Amit7.]

3:42‬‏ 🍝 blue 😂😂😂😂

[@MrMistakeyeah]

Do a video for sonic boom lol