Sonic Theory: Is Sonic an Ultimate Life Form?

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@VolticWind
@VolticWind 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s possible that Sonic is a naturally occurring equivalent to the Ultimate Life Form. He has many of the same traits that Shadow has and can even use Chaos Control without having Black Doom’s DNA in him.
@IPDAIV
@IPDAIV 2 ай бұрын
Crazy
@jamaldeldinglenut563
@jamaldeldinglenut563 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think of Shadow being the ultimate lifeform of the past, Sonic being the one of the present, and Silver as the one in the future.
@shepherdstar14
@shepherdstar14 8 ай бұрын
Oh my I like that theory a whole lot. I already knew about the mural in Sonic and Knuckles but I think Gerald was basing Shadow off of that form not knowing about Sonic or wherever he came from.
@SpaceHitlerFrieza
@SpaceHitlerFrieza 5 ай бұрын
Smart
@HyperQuills03
@HyperQuills03 18 күн бұрын
who said there can't be 3 Ultimate Life Forms! :D Also This would make Sense because those 3 Hedgehogs have a True Super Form unlike most other characters.
@XxROTSA2xX
@XxROTSA2xX 2 ай бұрын
I feel like a story that explains Sonic's origins and how he is connected to Shadow would be good for Sonic Adventure 3.
@daverayz3064
@daverayz3064 2 ай бұрын
one of my favorites points of evidence that shadow was actually modeled after the mural of super sonic vs eggman is the fact that shadow's quills are shaped like super sonics and they even made it a point for sonic's quills to be shaped that way in SA2 to match shadow's
@BlackPanther-fn7kz
@BlackPanther-fn7kz Жыл бұрын
Even shadow himself said that sonic must be the ultimate life form that's saying something
@thestickmansavioryt1941
@thestickmansavioryt1941 6 ай бұрын
Shadow is the proclaimed Ultimate Life Form, being literally designed based on Sonic, so Sonic is the primal, original, ultimate.
@elisabethsun7059
@elisabethsun7059 11 ай бұрын
The perfect chaos mural was in a temple that was in the Mystic Ruins though?
@Waltyworld
@Waltyworld Жыл бұрын
Nice theory I did hear some like this before but this has a lot of evidence this helped the sonic fan base and should honestly have more veiws
@GrimmHunterSaiyan
@GrimmHunterSaiyan Жыл бұрын
Hey man thanks for enjoying the video!!!
@Waltyworld
@Waltyworld Жыл бұрын
@@GrimmHunterSaiyan yw you deserve it
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
By the way, according to the plot of Adventure 2. Shadow's memory is fake, Gerald made it based on his previous work "Sonic is the ultimate life form that he saw on the fresco in SnK 3", and the biolizard is perfect chaos. He was canceled for the biolizard and therefore he did not have time to find a cure for Maria, Maria saved the capsule with Sonic, who was inactive and died of illness. Having learned about this, Gerald in anger before the execution creates Shadow, fills him with distorted memories so that he destroys the world. This was the original plot, but Shadow became too popular and now everything listed above is not canon. full of evidence, Terios first design and really 1 in 1 Sonic only perverted by revenge. Rouge said that all of Shadow's memories can be fake, to which he in the original, in Japanese, replies: "even if they are fake, this is all I have" so Shadow continues, for him this is the meaning of life. In the battle with Final Hazard, Shadow dies because he cannot withstand the super form (Sonic constantly says "hey Shadow you look tired", you need to rest), since he is more unstable and made in a hurry, unlike Sonic. And Shadow says "Sonic, I realized that the real ultimate life form, it can be you." I like this plot more than Blackdoom and I would like Shadow's future motivation to be not Edgy, but the desire to find that very "Maria", which he never had, that is, to find the real meaning of his existence, and not just for the sake
@theworldoftanko4719
@theworldoftanko4719 Жыл бұрын
I think it is pretty valuable theory By the way, I would like to add that Dark Gaia's (as well as Light Gaia's) power is energy of the planet Earth itself. On the other hand, Chaos emeralds after use scatter all over the planet to recover their power. That could mean that Chaos energy in some way related to planet energy (or even is the same kind of energy), so it's no wonder that Sonic could control himself under Dark Gaia influence (just because he already has faced with this energy) ... or he just has a pure heart and strong will, idk
@Gameon-ft9pf
@Gameon-ft9pf 8 ай бұрын
It's probably pure heart
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
​@@Gameon-ft9pfyeah he also escaped from cyberverse and The END be like: wtf, dude, you escaped just by the power of will"
@Gameon-ft9pf
@Gameon-ft9pf 4 ай бұрын
@@theworldoftanko4719 That's perfectly true
@im_.a-bear5996
@im_.a-bear5996 2 ай бұрын
He actually doesn’t have a pure heart, he doesn’t care who he has to hurt to do whatever he wants to do, search up “sonic is misunderstood” and click on the video with the guy in a costume, it will explain a lot
@MetalMask285
@MetalMask285 2 жыл бұрын
Hmph for a moment i thought i was the ultimate life form
@Waltyworld
@Waltyworld Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Alexa-cz9iu
@Alexa-cz9iu Жыл бұрын
The t-posing Gerald Robotnik got me LMAO-
@ThatKidBobo
@ThatKidBobo Жыл бұрын
Oh my fucking god, that Sonic statue in Hydrocity I had no idea.
@elisabethsun7059
@elisabethsun7059 11 ай бұрын
The final horizon update also kinda supports this XD
@Phillmikehunt00123
@Phillmikehunt00123 Жыл бұрын
If havent read "sonic adventure 2 perfect strategy guide the truth about 50 years ago" there is a report written by a GUN agent saying that the escape pod maria sent to earth whereabouts are unknown hinting the shadow we know in sa2 that eggman freed from a gun military base isn't the one who escaped the ark during the gun raid. While this doesn't confirm soinc is the ultimate life form i believe the writer of sa2 deliberately left it ambiguous
@yvng_hero305
@yvng_hero305 4 ай бұрын
Shadow was simply made for the task, Sonic was born for it.
@Goopdeloop
@Goopdeloop Жыл бұрын
I mean shadow literally needs those rocket boots to even get close to sonics speed. I really wish they used the rocket boots and inhibitor rings a lot more in the games 😔
@ef-jkota3611
@ef-jkota3611 5 ай бұрын
Shadows whole schtick is relying off of chaos energy, Sonic doesn’t. He avoids using chaos powers like shadow because he enjoys relying on his own abilities. He doesn’t want to rely on other things if he doesn’t have to.
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
​@@ef-jkota3611but he can.
@BonUndead
@BonUndead 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video my dude!!!
@Waltyworld
@Waltyworld Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@LucidTUN3S
@LucidTUN3S 2 ай бұрын
With all the years that I've studied, I'm inclined to believe that Sonic's original name _was_ Shadow the Hedgehog, the nearly completed reverse engineering of "The Ultimate Life" based off Chaos, and the original Shadow that _had_ actual memories of that Ark and befriending Maria. Maria was the one to give "Sonic" Shadow purpose on who he is and to give people a chance to be happy before launching to earth (Which is why he currently doesn't need a reason to feel the way he does as "It doesn't matter", he will act purely on instinct with his best intentions always). This would mean that Sonic isn't a teenager, but is actually an immortal that has been created and alive for over 60+ years, having 2 brothers (Biolizard, GUN Shadow), a mother (Chaos) and father (Pr. Gerald). GUN Shadow is a repurposing of Project Shadow's overall goal, but heavily shares the base model and data of "Sonic" Shadow, and GUN Shadow's "memories" being false tampered retellings of "Sonic" Shadow's memories (Very likely stolen and at the very least to be confirmed manipulated by Gerald) while "Sonic" Shadow suffered amnesia as a result (because evidently Sonic doesn't recall any of this despite constantly subconsciously calling back to the Ark). This would mean that GUN Shadow never actually met Maria. He still carries on his resolve as if he did have a figure that actually cared for him and ultimately makes his own decision based on what he truly instinctually feels is the right thing to do. In a way, that very much mirrors Sonic's motive. SA2's story is fucking crazy and I didn't even get into the nitty gritty of things lol
@loganlockheart6286
@loganlockheart6286 4 ай бұрын
You made me realize that even with Shadow needing a Chaos Emerald to teleport around with Chaos Control, the fact that Sonic did it only seeing how it worked once, used it almost perfectly with a less powerful fake chaos emerald that Tails had made, all in a matter of what was like a few seconds to a split of a second as the capsule that he was in was goin to explode, so the fact that he did that quickly, that well precise and in a dire situation made me feel like he always had this natural attunement to Chaos Energy itself, while yes, he didn't pop right back to where he wanted to be, he did end up back on ARK.
@maximyllion
@maximyllion 8 ай бұрын
shadow straight up says it in SA2
@alicesacco9329
@alicesacco9329 5 ай бұрын
I think Sonic and Shadow were meant to be twins. But Sega didn't want to linger on this, because things would have gotten too difficult. It is shown anyway in Shadow's personality, back then it was reminescent of Sonic's personality, mixed with traits who were the opposite of Sonic's. Also by the end of SA2 Sonic was the most shaken by Shadow's apparent death, at the point to cry.
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
By the way, according to the plot of Adventure 2. Shadow's memory is fake, Gerald made it based on his previous work "Sonic is the ultimate life form that he saw on the fresco in SnK 3", and the biolizard is perfect chaos. He was canceled for the biolizard and therefore he did not have time to find a cure for Maria, Maria saved the capsule with Sonic, who was inactive and died of illness. Having learned about this, Gerald in anger before the execution creates Shadow, fills him with distorted memories so that he destroys the world. This was the original plot, but Shadow became too popular and now everything listed above is not canon. full of evidence, Terios first design and really 1 in 1 Sonic only perverted by revenge. Rouge said that all of Shadow's memories can be fake, to which he in the original, in Japanese, replies: "even if they are fake, this is all I have" so Shadow continues, for him this is the meaning of life. In the battle with Final Hazard, Shadow dies because he cannot withstand the super form (Sonic constantly says "hey Shadow you look tired", you need to rest), since he is more unstable and made in a hurry, unlike Sonic. And Shadow says "Sonic, I realized that the real ultimate life form, it can be you." I like this plot more than Blackdoom and I would like Shadow's future motivation to be not Edgy, but the desire to find that very "Maria", which he never had, that is, to find the real meaning of his existence, and not just for the sake
@alicesacco9329
@alicesacco9329 4 ай бұрын
@@ediakin4993 I remember that phrase about 'fake memories' from Sonic X. Did he said the same in Sa2?
@CantRead1
@CantRead1 4 ай бұрын
​​​​@@ediakin4993in the strategy guide to SA2, it's stated that the capsule was not actually found by G.U.N and was lost. A good chance is that the capsule landed on Christmas Island where Sonic supposedly was born. Shadow was created on Prison Island as a weapon for G.U.N and obviously, a tool for Gerald's revenge. Sonic obviously doesn't remember the events of the Space Colony Arc because of how traumatic it was. His memories though did slip when he quoted Maria after Shadow "died" at the end of the game. Honestly, when you compare Maria and Sonic's personalities, they align perfectly and her final words reflect Sonic's character in a nutshell. There's also Sonic using Chaos Control in his bossfight in Dark Story and him using it in the capsule that Eggman trapped him in. it's odd how it was just forgotten about in future games. It's a huge shame how SA's story got butchered in future releases. It was obviously meant to be ambiguous on whether Shadow or Sonic was the real Ultimate life form and wanted us the player, to figure it out.
@usuario15965
@usuario15965 8 ай бұрын
Well shadow is based on the echidnas tribe mural wich shows hyper sonic fighting eggman on space so thats why shadow has the quills like that
@Kingshock
@Kingshock 4 ай бұрын
A lot of the argument is non cannon plot armor
@GrimmHunterSaiyan
@GrimmHunterSaiyan 4 ай бұрын
@@Kingshock What was non canon?
@TaskMaster369
@TaskMaster369 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to add this: I've read that Shadow can't die of age and can't grow up, but Sonic clearly grows up (he has a birthday and looked younger in the Classic games). So... maybe Sonic is a worse Ultimate Lifeform???
@juliussorello-o9z
@juliussorello-o9z Жыл бұрын
Sonic is literally the god of chaos in his world you don't now that sonic is better and maybe sonic can not grow up like shadow
@alicesacco9329
@alicesacco9329 11 ай бұрын
Sonic has better health than Shadow. Without the rings, Shadow would have hard time.
@Red_sønico
@Red_sønico 11 ай бұрын
Only because he die? Sonic is natural and shadow is artificial
@yvng_hero305
@yvng_hero305 4 ай бұрын
If he was worst, he wouldnt have clapped them hot topic cheeks on the arc, in battle, in an alternate universe based on chivalry. Etc
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
By the way, according to the plot of Adventure 2. Shadow's memory is fake, Gerald made it based on his previous work "Sonic is the ultimate life form that he saw on the fresco in SnK 3", and the biolizard is perfect chaos. He was canceled for the biolizard and therefore he did not have time to find a cure for Maria, Maria saved the capsule with Sonic, who was inactive and died of illness. Having learned about this, Gerald in anger before the execution creates Shadow, fills him with distorted memories so that he destroys the world. This was the original plot, but Shadow became too popular and now everything listed above is not canon. full of evidence, Terios first design and really 1 in 1 Sonic only perverted by revenge. Rouge said that all of Shadow's memories can be fake, to which he in the original, in Japanese, replies: "even if they are fake, this is all I have" so Shadow continues, for him this is the meaning of life. In the battle with Final Hazard, Shadow dies because he cannot withstand the super form (Sonic constantly says "hey Shadow you look tired", you need to rest), since he is more unstable and made in a hurry, unlike Sonic. And Shadow says "Sonic, I realized that the real ultimate life form, it can be you." I like this plot more than Blackdoom and I would like Shadow's future motivation to be not Edgy, but the desire to find that very "Maria", which he never had, that is, to find the real meaning of his existence, and not just for the sake
@anime_world6684
@anime_world6684 11 ай бұрын
“More impressive than shadow” bro all Sonic is doing is teleporting, since the first time we saw super Sonic in the 2d games up until adventure 2 I didn’t know super can give you special ability’s until shadow came who knew how to control his powers
@GrimmHunterSaiyan
@GrimmHunterSaiyan 11 ай бұрын
Yes Sonic is just teleporting, but let’s add the context you just so happened to remove. Sonic is copying a chaos ability after seeing it preformed once with a fake, less powerful emerald. That’s what makes it “More impressive than Shadow”. Especially since Shadow was made specifically to control chaos power, where Sonic was born normally.
@anime_world6684
@anime_world6684 11 ай бұрын
@@GrimmHunterSaiyan I didn’t add that context because this sort of stuff happens way more than I can count in fiction but even that is iffy because Sonic has a lot of experience using the chaos emeralds more than shadow
@GrimmHunterSaiyan
@GrimmHunterSaiyan 11 ай бұрын
@@anime_world6684 Yeah Sonic may have had used the emeralds more than Shadow up to that point, it’s how he used them is what’s different. Sonic never could teleport with an emerald before because he never thought to try it. The moment he knew it could be done, he did it.
@insertname7397
@insertname7397 10 ай бұрын
@@GrimmHunterSaiyan Yeah but what you're missing in this comment thread is that Sonic has used them before, while he did copy what Shadow did, he's had more experience with the emeralds and going Super. He's more attuned to their energy and even moreso with SA1's events, using specifically the positive energy and what chaos didn't use. It's like if someone were to only use an object a certain way, but enough that they know how the object works. They just never did anything else with it.
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
SA2 Shadow cant teleport without emerald. You talking about "post STH 2005 SHADOW". Also Sonic just dosent rrly on other abilities cause he tought its cheating
@audriella222
@audriella222 Жыл бұрын
well, no!
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
Well yes
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 4 ай бұрын
By the way, according to the plot of Adventure 2. Shadow's memory is fake, Gerald made it based on his previous work "Sonic is the ultimate life form that he saw on the fresco in SnK 3", and the biolizard is perfect chaos. He was canceled for the biolizard and therefore he did not have time to find a cure for Maria, Maria saved the capsule with Sonic, who was inactive and died of illness. Having learned about this, Gerald in anger before the execution creates Shadow, fills him with distorted memories so that he destroys the world. This was the original plot, but Shadow became too popular and now everything listed above is not canon. full of evidence, Terios first design and really 1 in 1 Sonic only perverted by revenge. Rouge said that all of Shadow's memories can be fake, to which he in the original, in Japanese, replies: "even if they are fake, this is all I have" so Shadow continues, for him this is the meaning of life. In the battle with Final Hazard, Shadow dies because he cannot withstand the super form (Sonic constantly says "hey Shadow you look tired", you need to rest), since he is more unstable and made in a hurry, unlike Sonic. And Shadow says "Sonic, I realized that the real ultimate life form, it can be you." I like this plot more than Blackdoom and I would like Shadow's future motivation to be not Edgy, but the desire to find that very "Maria", which he never had, that is, to find the real meaning of his existence, and not just for the sake
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