Studio Monitors: Too Big VS. Too Small

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@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
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@serbanesku
@serbanesku Жыл бұрын
I think the correct link for Adam Audio is: www.adam-audio.com
@LonelyStarOfficial
@LonelyStarOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Can you Tell me, If i can Mix Professional with the Adam A4V, cause i don't have so much Money. Just enough for this price
@williamillington
@williamillington 24 күн бұрын
It's crazy how people are complaining about this in depth answer and completely missing the information. Just because you like Adam monitors. You can't fix stupid! Thanks for taking the time to break it down for us :)
@RealBeanz
@RealBeanz 12 күн бұрын
Just got the A4Vs and they sound amazing, untreated room and very close to me on the desk... they sound great!
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 7 күн бұрын
They do! Shockingly good for that size. :-)
@RodneyD
@RodneyD Жыл бұрын
I Have the Genelec 8361a monitors with a Genelec sub in a very small room with minimal treatment. They're calibrated with the Genelec GLM room correction kit. Sounds phenomenal and accurate. I had the Adam A8H when they were first released. But they had an issue with randomly shutting off & powering back on. I liked them a lot but I couldn't deal with them shutting off in the middle of critical studio sessions. So I sent them back and got the Genelecs instead. Im glad I did. The Genelec's are my end game monitors
@ShinyShinyBlack
@ShinyShinyBlack Жыл бұрын
My first set of monitors were a set of Mackie 824 clones made by Behringer. In 2007 I made the jump to a pair of Adam A7, and use them to this day. I struggled and struggled to get the low-end right, until one day I was mixing a live show, and wondered why it was so easy to dial in the low end in a live environment, but so evasive in the studio. That’s when I realized that I “listen” to the low end with my body as much or more so than with my ears. So, I found the first sub I could find that reached down to 20hz accurately - which turned out to be a Bag-End D18E. I use their ELF crossover, and with tuning from Sonarworks, I am able to hear 20hz to 20kz +\- .5 db in the listening position with a sub $5k setup. 😎
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear! So glad it's working out for you. -Justin
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
Yeah! I love my Yamaha HS7s, with a sub. (Or Subpac, which is a whole different thing, only use that for club music mixes/masters)
@ADAMAudioBerlin
@ADAMAudioBerlin Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, Justin! Clear + helpful information 👊
@djvictornova9188
@djvictornova9188 Жыл бұрын
Such an important topic that needs more attention on KZbin. I would love to hear someone talk about the psychological belief that a bigger speaker is better , But the truth might be that the reason most people go for a larger monitor is to do with the fact they lack experience when it comes to understanding frequencies and how to listen to them. I'm saying this because i went thru it and know realise that the lacking piece was not a bigger speaker but knowledge... This was my experience
@joesalyers
@joesalyers Жыл бұрын
After almost 30 years of doing this my humble opinion is most 8 inch studio monitors are 6 1⁄2 inch woofers at best, famously the 8 inch Genelec was barley 6 3⁄4 inches. So Monitor size matters depending on how loud you listen to them. But an 8 inch monitor in a small room at low volume will always be better than a 5 inch monitor which will be more like a 3 1⁄2 to 4 inch woofer. My current SAM 1032C are said to be 10 inch woofers they measure in at just shy of 7 inches, Yamaha HS8s are 6 1⁄4 Woofers, so in retrospect an 8 inch studio monitor is not as big as it seems. So I always tell people to get the the 8 inch model if they can since that will be the one the manufacture designed and the smaller models are more of an after thought reusing the same tweeter and parts ect. But if you do use a 8 inch in a smaller room keep the level as low as you can, even in well treated rooms its best to keep your level low so the physics of the speaker don't cause issues. But if you choose something smaller you will need more referencing to guard against judgment calls made on smaller speakers, and if you can have at least 2 studio monitors sets and a hi-fi set just for referencing not mixing. The hi-fi set can be bookshelf speakers like Edifier or Bowers & Wilkins whatever the popular hi-fi speakers are. When I started in the 90s the Pioneer floor speakers were our hi-fi reference point but I now use B&W 600 series speakers to reference and one of those weird little bluetooth boom boxes with the gamer RGB lights because those seem to be a popular with young people! This is just my experience so its not perfect but based on almost 30 years of doing this. Good Video by the way!!! Cheers!
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts 10 ай бұрын
Yeah when you go from edge to edge but the call them cones so you're no taking account of the concave.
@Iofflight78
@Iofflight78 9 ай бұрын
Thanks this is useful. I'm in a 9x12 room but tend to listen a bit from further away. I'm looking at the Adam A8H and was wondering if it might be too large but I don't think so. I think it will work for a variety of applications which sometimes is just listening for pleasure and not mixing.
@joesalyers
@joesalyers 9 ай бұрын
@@Iofflight78 Yea 8's are the only way to go so you can get enough low end for modern music, especially if you like hearing everything at both low and high volumes! Cheers! The Adam 8s are really nice.
@Iofflight78
@Iofflight78 9 ай бұрын
@@joesalyersThanks for the feedback. I do very synth and design heavy music. Occasionally I do some chilled out lofi stuff with bass and guitar but House music is my main. I always need to consider that when figuring out what monitor to select. Montors and microphones are truly the hardest things to pick without being able to A/B them properly.
@yardleylfc
@yardleylfc 2 ай бұрын
Until I sized up I got the depth of sound I really needed for each end of the spectrum at once. HED TYpe 20 mk2
@GDMartin
@GDMartin 11 ай бұрын
Justin you are literally such a gem to the world. I love you, man. Been tuning in since 2019, you have provided me so much joy ; knowledge and laughter. Love when you crank up the humor and your sarcasm is so subtle sometimes - it’s borderline broadway performative. Fucking Legend.
@behemothinferno
@behemothinferno Жыл бұрын
Great video with lots of useful information. That being said, another reason a monitor may be called midfield vs nearfield is because of the higher SPL capability of the speaker making it ideal for listening at a further distance.
@kamilkowalczyk9369
@kamilkowalczyk9369 Жыл бұрын
Recently purchased PreSonus Eris 5. So far so good!
@kommunismusarbeiterjonny
@kommunismusarbeiterjonny 25 күн бұрын
I have a pair and one is buzzing 😐
@Mad.Maxx.77
@Mad.Maxx.77 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video, mate!! I've had a pair of the A7V and an SVS SB-3000 sub for almost 2 years for my computer audio setup. The A7V was my best audio purchase in well over 10 years.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 7 ай бұрын
Very nice! They are great monitors!! -Justin
@willgellmusic
@willgellmusic 11 ай бұрын
Hey! It's always an awesome content from you! Need help: T5V, A4V? Or maybe a T5V + T10S?
@microapple97
@microapple97 Жыл бұрын
Smaller may be better, but less clarity than Justin Colletti is always a loss. ;) Thank you so much for creating this essential and well-articulated content. You are easily my favorite person to listen to when it comes to building a studio, and I find your clarity of approach to sound incredibly refreshing and useful. God bless, and I hope to see more of you. :)
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! Hope to see more of you around the channel :-) -Justin
@insanron
@insanron Жыл бұрын
Got the A7v's couple of weeks ago and they sound great just a bit hard to switch since i've had my KRK for so long 10 plus years.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
Great speakers! Any switch like that will take some adjustment and learning, but I think they will serve you well. Very best, Justin
@derhurr7406
@derhurr7406 6 ай бұрын
KRK can't beat Adam A7v .
@Heiskixsalem
@Heiskixsalem 2 ай бұрын
@@derhurr7406it can, low end isn’t a joke.
@stanislavchircevschi5800
@stanislavchircevschi5800 9 ай бұрын
Hi i have a question my room is 16 meters square 4x4 i have adam sub t10s what size of speakers is better for my room a4 or a7v ?
@bartvanransbeeck1341
@bartvanransbeeck1341 Жыл бұрын
Troels Grafesen conceived big 4way monitors with 18" bass and 10" lowmids and observed that even in modest spaces it could express the quality of big sound like in real life concerts
@gabrielthesingingpilot
@gabrielthesingingpilot 11 ай бұрын
Hey Justin great video. I’m rocking Adam Audio Tv8s in my untreated garage. I’m simply mixing vocals to a 2 track so for me bottom end has already been mastered on the 2 track. Scored them for $100 a piece so why not!
@thaexception3406
@thaexception3406 Жыл бұрын
Just got my Iloud Precision MTMs last week from the original MTMs. A subwoofer is necessary for both for feeling the low end I’ll tell you that!
@UncleBenjs
@UncleBenjs Жыл бұрын
Great video. I put a deposit on my new monitors a couple of weeks ago, cant wait to get them in
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear. Let us know how they turn out! -Justin
@UncleBenjs
@UncleBenjs Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop They're incredible monitors with super high end drivers etc. The company sell direct also, cutting out distribution and retail and have adjusted their prices accordingly. The nearfields I'm getting are costing $4k for the pair but they easily compete with those costing between $8k and 12k a pair.
@UncleBenjs
@UncleBenjs Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop The day I first heard their monitors, I made the mistake of listening to them first and then every other demo just fell short. They're a new company but will for sure be very known over the coming years
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to hearing more about them! -Justin
@Druffkopp
@Druffkopp 6 ай бұрын
thanks for the great information :) I went straight to A7V, cuz my rooms big enough, absolutly love em
@SoundSlingers
@SoundSlingers 4 ай бұрын
I’m using A7X’s and A77X’s love it I also have a set of T7V’s in same room
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 4 ай бұрын
Great speakers! :-)
@TazzSmk
@TazzSmk Жыл бұрын
one big point I miss in your video is, bigger 2-way speakers will always have midrange (around crossover frequency) sonically scooped (pun intended), making them rather bad for any voice/vocal work/listening, in such case you're right smaller speakers will almost always be better choice, that said, actually smaller speakers would have to be more expensive than bigger speakers, to provide adeqate sound quality (low distortion, low end etc...) for heavier use like film scoring or music work, Kali Audio have quick FAQ video on topic why smaller IN-5 needs more power than bigger IN-8 model, admitting some design compromises to keep costs reasonable :)
@Methamill
@Methamill Жыл бұрын
Hey scoop and people. I tend to believe there is value packed in this video and kudos for the effort making it but not to spoil the video, sorry scoop, if there is anything more or less here saying that the bigger the speaker the better for any kind of room. Why? The bigger the speaker the lower the it can produce natural sounding sub. That beats all. Real sound, Truth.
@russellharris9674
@russellharris9674 Жыл бұрын
I've had my Event 20/20p's. for 25 years. Still love them. Looking at Adam a7v's for 2024
@russellharris9674
@russellharris9674 Жыл бұрын
2nd set: KRK 5 3rd set: Eris 3.5 Desktop: Amazon Basics (surprisingly useful).
@mickeymessstudios109
@mickeymessstudios109 3 ай бұрын
I have Presonus ERIS 5 and have been mixing in an untreated room for about 7 years. I am realizing that I am constantly struggling with the low frequencies, even with the mid range to a certain extent. Since I just moved and my studio is still in boxes, I will be in a new room with opportunity to treat the room and maybe change or even ADD another set of speakers. My search so far has led me to Adam Audio T7V or KALI IM8 or LP8 or Presonus ERIS 8 - - I would very much like to hear your opinion - EVEN A SHOOTOUT - between these 3 speakers !
@henryssurfshowcase
@henryssurfshowcase Жыл бұрын
I have the Adam A7X's , and they are awesome! i have to move around a lot and they are just right for that, not to big and heavy. Pretty sure they go down to 42hz, sometimes I use a sub for critical low end down to 28hz is what that does. And the sub gives guest listeners more boom for the room..
@tokyoskyline1752
@tokyoskyline1752 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. What is considerd a small room and large room? My bedroom is approx 12ft by 15ft and 9ft high. I have a pair of Prodipe TDC 6 coaxials on Zaor stands. I'm looking at Kali In-5s but can get the In-8s 2nd Wave for same price. Too big?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
As discussed in a bit of detail in the video, making sure the speaker isn't too big for the room is a lot more about listening distance from the speakers than it is about the square footage of the space. Additionally, it's about how well-tuned your room is-what the lowest frequencies you can reproduce with reasonable accuracy at your listening position are. (Theoretically, this latter consideration, of low end performance and room treatment, is separate from room size. A small room can technically reproduce surprisingly low frequencies. But in practice, most small rooms are pretty poor at doing so accurately, so there's some pretty strong correlation there! :-) So, ask yourself these two following questions: 1. How far away will you be sitting from your speakers? 2. What are the lowest frequencies you can reproduce with reasonable accuracy at and around your listening position? Check out around 8:02 for the discussion and "rule of thumb" equations there. Hope that helps! -Justin
@tokyoskyline1752
@tokyoskyline1752 Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop thanks.
@ConfidenZe
@ConfidenZe 4 ай бұрын
I have Yamaha hs 5’s and Focal Alpha 65 I’m thinking of adding a sub but I don’t know which one is best I converted my garage into a studio
@christianthompson1473
@christianthompson1473 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2.1 system with a5x monitors. Eventually I found the sub was unnecessary and overcomplicated the setup ,causing more problems than they solved. The a5x is that good i use them without the sub 8
@faaip0de0oaid
@faaip0de0oaid 8 ай бұрын
If i'm about 3 feet away the 4" woofer would be better than the 7" (i also use a subwoofer in my 17x11 feet room) please confirm :)
@roberthedin909
@roberthedin909 Жыл бұрын
Yes, size matters, I went through this in my current space. I couldn’t use my Dynaudio BM15As, too overwhelming, I couldn’t use my JBL 305s, too tiny and underwhelming, landed on Adam T7V, perfect size for the space, it just sounded right.
@repasiv
@repasiv Жыл бұрын
For the past 10+ years I have Yamaha HS80 and HS10W. And I am about 5-6 ft away from them. The clarity isn't that high, but if it sounds right in my room than it will be generally good. I am convinced that a sub is a good idea no matter how big the speakers are... you roll off the lows of the monitors anyway if you add a sub. I have a second set of ikmultimedia iloud micro monitors which are surprisingly good sounding. Although I consider upgrading to Neumann HK120mk2 + HK750. Which would be a considerable investment.
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
It’s super valuable to have an A/B setup. Even a 2nd pair that’s more of a consumer-grade speaker can be suuper helpful, because you’ll hear how other people will actually listen to your work on that type of speaker. It can really show you when there are subs killing your mix’s ability to translate on consumer gear, which is important. I love my Yamaha 7s with sub. 👌 I use a pair of older 00s ADAMs as my B speakers (nice to hear how the ribbon tweeters represent the high end).
@bartvanransbeeck1341
@bartvanransbeeck1341 Жыл бұрын
I remember the JBL 4350 in studio 'Swan' in Belgium...it could reproduce the dynamics in real power of real instruments....like the cords on a grand concert piano ...or a fender bass at concert levels ...in old times the adagio was 'the less the cone moves,the less distortion
@cowabungaw9958
@cowabungaw9958 Жыл бұрын
A lot of great concepts covered. Subwoofer integration should be covered. My oldies but goodies = One setup I've played with are KRK 6000B/Rokbottom sub which need to be carefully integrated = placement/crossover point /amplifier. (the small driver becomes a mid in a near field setup). Another are KRK13000B (3way mid field) which blow me away in regards to dynamics, realism, Hz range. This one is very particular towards amplifier selection. I love 3 ways. Lots of great new & old stuff out there these days. Had old AR9's (4 way full range floor standing) again very particular with amplifier integration = fantastic mids resolution & thunderous bass. Lately its been headphones as I don't have a home to play in.
@MrKbostabox
@MrKbostabox Жыл бұрын
I'm in a 20 x 20 foot room with 2 x adam s4x-H and they are amazing.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
Great monitors! -Justin
@DustinHertzMusic
@DustinHertzMusic Жыл бұрын
Great video! Im currently looking at replacing my A8X for a set of A7V. I have a small room 2,5m x 2,5m (with treatment) and I heavily depend on Sonarworks. This video more or less confirmed smaller is better in my case. But perhaps I should also take into account a smaller set with sub? I do harddance edm music, so working on low frequencies is key.
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts 10 ай бұрын
I haven't found a set of monitors that I feel comfortable with yet, so I mix down with a set of beyerdynamic open backs and check what I do on a cheap Bluetooth speaker and on a car stereo.
@Anhidema
@Anhidema 11 ай бұрын
So I made the right decision to go for A7V. The best one ever !
@robert_starling
@robert_starling Жыл бұрын
This was very useful! Thank you! My use case is a little different in that I'm a guitarist running a Fractal FM9 through an Apollo Twin X into a pair of Genelec 8020 4" monitors at home. The 4" Genelecs sound amazing but I've been toying with moving up to something like a 7" or 8" pair of monitors just to try to move a little more air and feel it more in my little 10x12 studio. I don't need louder, I just want to fill the room a little fuller. Any suggestions from a pro audio specialist like you would be appreciated. I don't think a powered 10-12" cab is the answer since at that point I can use my 20 watt Two-Rock 12" combo when even with my OX box is too much. Thanks! ~Robert
@adamattila4708
@adamattila4708 Жыл бұрын
What is the ideal speaker size in a 2.5 x 4.5 meter room?
@sicknoterecordings
@sicknoterecordings Жыл бұрын
I was just pondering this exact question as I have a pair of Dynaudio BM6 MkII, and looking at doubling the size of my current room from 3x4m to 3x8m for more comfortable tracking. Was looking at the sub route rather than bigger speakers unless you think that unwise?
@Hebhansen
@Hebhansen 10 ай бұрын
Seas Excell 6,5” woofer with dynaudio 7900 tweeter. 2 way in tannoy cabinet and Hypex NL amp. Sub is B&W PV-1 2x8” push pull w Icepower amp 500w. Next monitor is Adam
@amanieux
@amanieux Жыл бұрын
i have adam f7 with sub7 subwoofer (with the 80hz switch on to cut lower frequencies under 80hz for the speakers) i want to reduce the footprint of my speakers on my desk (near field , less than 2" feet away), if i replace my 7" a 5" monitors from the same serie (f5) will i reduce sound quality or improve it as frequencies under 80hz are cut off anyway and smaller woofer size(5" from f5) is faster/lighter than a larger woofer (7" from f7) ? thanks
@CosticaKristianDiVogli
@CosticaKristianDiVogli 3 ай бұрын
I have the same F7s with a Sub 7, with monitors kept flat and sub kept at 50Hz/-20 dB (I can switch off sub sometimes to hear differences as well as using a pair of Sennheiser HD 380 Pro) In the past I've a pair of HS80 next to a pair of NS10M Studio with A100 amp. I have to admit that I miss the NS10s but in the other hand a pair of A8H with a Sub 12 or Sub 10MK2 or even a Sub 8 will be ideal (even though might seem too big)
@amanieux
@amanieux 3 ай бұрын
@@CosticaKristianDiVogli 50hz on sub7 ? that is really high so you don't use the sub7 satellite filter button that cuts off f7 under 85hz nor the 80hz cutoff switch on f7 ?
@astral_brain
@astral_brain Жыл бұрын
I'm in a small acoustically treated room with Yamaha HS8's. Technically I'm sitting too close I suppose, at around 2 feet, but I have a habit of rolling back on my chair every once in a while to hear the the lowest frequencies. There's a significant difference in what you hear going one or two feet further back.
@paullynomial
@paullynomial 8 ай бұрын
very good content!
@danielebellezza8699
@danielebellezza8699 6 ай бұрын
Great video!! I found an offer for a pair of used A7Vs just under 1 year old for 800€ in total, but I was told that the Evo Alpha twins are far better, have you ever tried them? What do you think?
@SasyMozy
@SasyMozy Жыл бұрын
Your voice is Amazing!
@AcousticWisdom
@AcousticWisdom Жыл бұрын
I have the JBL MkII 6.5in with the sub. I do only acoustic music (no drums), and wonder what would be better, if there is much a thing as speakers that work better for particular genres. I don’t need super low subs since the deepest thing I’d be mixing would be an upright bass. I’m thinking that something that had better transient response and mid range detail would be best? Would I be correct in thinking that? Is having only one sub a silly idea? Thanks, Justin!
@BC-gy1wp
@BC-gy1wp 7 ай бұрын
Hey Justin, I am looking for Monitors for a 13X13 room. I was looking at the KRK Rokit Gen 5 8" for guitar, keyboards, and Bass Guitar. Essentially the room is a square lol. What do you think?
@bartvanransbeeck1341
@bartvanransbeeck1341 Жыл бұрын
What about old JBL monitors like the 4350 and 4345...with 10" or 12" lowmids....I love them
@bob.bobman
@bob.bobman Жыл бұрын
When video about headphones shootout for mixing\mastering? Which do you recommend if taking this approach as primary reference?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
I did that recently here: kzbin.infoJr8OtTONQNw?si=4igmuRXcZO7wBGNM Hope you enjoy! -Justin
@Big_Old_Bondy
@Big_Old_Bondy Жыл бұрын
Great video. I went for the Neumann KH 80s a few years ago and do not regret the choice at all. The amount of articulation in the bass from the 4inch driver is insane. I am usually in a small/squareish room so ten to keep the listening 'triangle' very small. Listening position is around 2ft in order to stay out if the centre of the room. Also these monitors are designed to be placed very close to the front wall. They actually sound bad when they are further away.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Sometimes a better quality, smaller speaker is the way to go! -Justin
@infriad
@infriad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for good info! I actually upgraded from my really small iLoud Micro to Genelec 8330’s this week. I’ve been doing a ton of calibration with the included GLM kit and even with this tool it's definitely not easy to get it right. I have a very small room with no treatment so I’m struggling with a huge dip around 90hz at my listeningposition. I’ve come to the conclusion that I need a deeper desk so that I get a bit further from the speaker just like you mention.
@dananskidolf
@dananskidolf Жыл бұрын
I've read good things about the 8330's and mine should arrive tomorrow to demo - I'm trying to scale down from much larger speakers to see if I prefer something small at close range. The GLM tool won't fill in dips much - DSP can't really make up for those properly. You could try moving them around a bit to see if you can escape the mode causing that dip.
@quentinmorgan3937
@quentinmorgan3937 9 ай бұрын
Great VT I have a man cave outside with is a concrete and hardwood lined and sound wool as a sandwich. The room is tiled with 1" thick 12 x12 tiles walls and ceiling. The door is steel but old and drafty. I have a pair of Presonus ERIS 8" and I'm in the centre about 2.5" away sat down. My room size is 10' x 8' ~ my issue is after all this treatment and build materials , I'm still getting sound bleed and o track low volumes not even enough to get true bass sound, the steel door also has treatment tiles. Can anyone help me please, I live on a private estate where musical instruments are not allowed, its a matter of time before someone complains. Help please, know your stuff
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio Жыл бұрын
First speakers 8inch Mackies MR824, go pretty low 37hz
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 11 ай бұрын
8" speakers can go pretty deep! -Justin
@baronvonlichtenstein
@baronvonlichtenstein 9 ай бұрын
ADAM T5V are amazing.
@cdauterive1
@cdauterive1 Жыл бұрын
What size is considered a small room? 11x11 or 12x12?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
If you get to the 8:00 mark or so, we talk about room size is some detail. It has a lot more to do with the listening distance than the square footage. Hope that helps, Justin
@cdauterive1
@cdauterive1 Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoopI’m using the A7x in a room 11x11x8 with treatment. It sounds good to me but I need to get a measurement 🎤 to make sure I am dealing with the rough area correctly
@BennyFade
@BennyFade 10 ай бұрын
Coming from a larger A7X to a smaller KH120. Got so much more mid information and clarity out of them.
@substance90
@substance90 9 ай бұрын
My first studio monitors were the T7Vs, way too big for my room and too close to the wall. I kinda hated the sound.
@stenstensen3522
@stenstensen3522 11 ай бұрын
I am an audiophile. When listening to music, the majority of production are simply not good enough, when listening to a high-end audio system. One get irritated. For example, Celin Dion’s albums are not at a quality level that one would expect for singer at that level. Therefore, have I learned, from being interested in this topic, that for best quality mixing, the monitors, need to be of the highest quality. If you can’t hear the details, you can’t produce the best quality sound. For example, the SEAS DIY kit, SEAS KingRO4Y Mk II, is among the ULTRA HIGH-END monitors or the MUM 8 monitor. Expensive but affordable. Go for the best and make the best sound.
@RecluseRR
@RecluseRR Жыл бұрын
It comes down to minimum listening distance for the drivers to sum
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
That is probably the single biggest component from a performance perspective, where a smaller monitor could have an edge (all else being equal). There are other potential reasons discussed here as well that are valid, but people will quibble about the others a bit more :-) -Justin
@RecluseRR
@RecluseRR Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop I agree, thats what makes Genelec coaxials really good in my opinion. I use 8260A even though theyre fairly large 60lbs speakers, their minimum distance is 0.7meters. Fairly sure the newer "the ones" can be used even closer. Can definitely see more companies going that route with the average studio getting smaller requiring shorter distances
@RelievedMusic
@RelievedMusic 24 күн бұрын
I added the Subwoofer T10S in my small room, and I somehow regret the choice. I have set up Bass Traps as much as possible, but even then, the very low frequencies remain untouched. I feel like the subwoofer made it even worse. I could use active bass traps, but with the price on that I could buy a new car.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 23 күн бұрын
Yes, sometimes a sub can make low frequency issues more apparent because it can be difficult to treat a room to be effective all the way down to those deepest sub regions. However, you also have some added flexibility in moving the sub around, which is one way to potentially get around some of these issues. I would experiment quite a bit more with sub placement before considering it a lost cause. Best of luck!
@RelievedMusic
@RelievedMusic 23 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoopThank you very much! I really enjoy your videos though. Great work.
@poorlittlemonkey
@poorlittlemonkey Жыл бұрын
So this is an AD for Adam audio? COOL
@christianthompson1473
@christianthompson1473 Жыл бұрын
There is no quality differences in the build or technical ability of Adam audio speakers. They all perform the same. The more expensive models have higher spec and more flexible connections and other pro features like eq room adjustment, but the drivers, ribbons and crossovers are identical.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand how "They all perform the same" and "The more expensive models have higher spec " are not contradictory statements. Those two ideas seem mutually exclusive. It also doesn't seem plausible that they all have the same crossover points, as in most cases, you don't even have identical speaker sizes and driver configurations across their 3 lines. Their cabinets have visibly different designs, geometries and porting systems. I very much doubt that the T series use the same exact large drivers as the S series, but I can ask and find out if you like! Plus, DSP makes a big significant difference in modern speaker performance, and I imagine the T series is DSP-free. Have you heard an ADAM S2V 7" ($1399 per speaker) in the same room as the 7" T7V ($199 per speaker) and come to the determination that they sound the same yourself? Or are you just assuming this would be the case? Any clarity you can offer is welcome. Very best, Justin
@christianthompson1473
@christianthompson1473 Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop hi Justin, i was referring to an early interview with klaus Heinz where he explained how he did not compromise the sound design across the different speaker ranges. I cant find the interview at the moment but i will try again later. I probably didn't explain it well.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
ADAM is a fairly different company from when Klaus was at the helm. I don't think there is any chance the T series and S series are using all the same drivers. There have also been additional improvement to the S series since then. The current S3H and the original S3a are not the same speaker. There are a lot of objective improvements in the new S series. While a lot of the technology in the original S series may have migrated to the original A series, albeit at a smaller scale, those two lines have both changed since then, and new less expensive lines have been added. While the T series sound great for their extremely low price, there is no question that the A series are an upgrade. They cost substantially more for a reason. I hope some of that makes sense! -Justin
@christianthompson1473
@christianthompson1473 Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop yes, the interview i saw was a long time before the T series. So it was just the S and V ranges he was talking about and comparing. He said the main substantial difference was the pro grade features connectivity and room compensation
@endtimestraveller6634
@endtimestraveller6634 4 ай бұрын
This was really helpful for me. I will rather go now with a smaller speaker (and buy a sub later), because I need near field monitors. Thank you!
@Silvabulletproduction8337
@Silvabulletproduction8337 Ай бұрын
:98-1:05……that’s what she said!
@zerberk
@zerberk 9 ай бұрын
I just watched an Ad for Adam Audio
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 9 ай бұрын
Did you learn anything about principles of speaker selection and design while doing so? If so, mission accomplished. -Justin
@zerberk
@zerberk 9 ай бұрын
@@SonicScoop hey man, no hate for you. I’ve been with your channel for years and you definitely share knowledge which I respect. But at the same time, this video was definitely just an Adam Audio Ad.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 8 ай бұрын
If you take out the “just” part I’d agree with you :-) There is indeed an ad for Adam, embedded in sever conversation about speaker selection and design, the principles of which can be applied to any brand’s speakers. But I like their speakers, and they footed the bill, so I demonstrate the ideas with their speakers instead of some other brand’s. I hope that makes sense! -Justin
@zerberk
@zerberk 8 ай бұрын
@@SonicScoop Yeah I would take out the just. English isn’t my first language. Thanks for the years of videos though 🙏🏽
@nomad1517
@nomad1517 Жыл бұрын
I just realized the Adam logo is an apple.
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio Жыл бұрын
You just made me realize it thanks ! of course Adam ! Now Its my favorite brand in term of esoteric culture
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
DAY-um. I never saw that before, and now I can't unsee it! -Justin
@nomad1517
@nomad1517 Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop From what I understand, the CEO of eve audio was the original ceo until he left. Get it, Adam, Eve. Creation. 🙃
@darkpowerxo
@darkpowerxo Жыл бұрын
Hi
@darkpowerxo
@darkpowerxo Жыл бұрын
I got the sub10 and a7v for my birthday
@jasonleyson7825
@jasonleyson7825 2 ай бұрын
Is this just an infomercial?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 2 ай бұрын
No, it is not. Try actually watching the video and then asking again 😆 It is a video about speaker size considerations, which happens to have a sponsor, so that we can afford to make the video.
@bryandimaio9704
@bryandimaio9704 Жыл бұрын
First-ish
@ralfmoss
@ralfmoss Жыл бұрын
Second - ISH 😅
@o.g.willing
@o.g.willing Жыл бұрын
Third-ish
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio Жыл бұрын
Fourth-ish (Im French and Fortiche in the same pronounciation means strong)
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
FIFTH! (ish.)
@johannjohann6523
@johannjohann6523 7 ай бұрын
Surely you jest making the statement a speaker can be too big. lol. Next, you'll say one can have too many speakers.
@byniasofficial2567
@byniasofficial2567 5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for the ad for Adam audio to end until I realized i was watching the actual content.
@anhellehna6858
@anhellehna6858 Жыл бұрын
I've upgraded from quality small speakers to non quality huge speakers. Now, I'm shaking my neighbours. 💪 Size always matters!! 😂
@snoopywalker1881
@snoopywalker1881 10 ай бұрын
Wait you only talking about Adam Audio? How biased can you be!
@producermathew
@producermathew Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI - I’m an acoustic consultant for my 9-5 and have classically trained to masters level. I have a dep understanding of loudspeaker and transducer design. The A77H monitors work just fine as near field type monitors. The whole big vs small speaker depending on your room is false and a misconception to those who don’t have experience as an acoustics engineer.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop Жыл бұрын
It depends how you define "nearfield". There certainly is an ideal minimum listening distance for the A77H, just as with any other multi-driver speaker design. That ideal minimum listening distance will tend to be smaller on a smaller speaker. Hope that helps clarify some of it! -Justin
@producermathew
@producermathew Жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop to blow people’s mind, in acoustics there isn’t actually technically a ‘mid field’. When considering sound fields of a source, we have ‘near field’ and ‘far field’. Midfield is more so a marketing term to effectively describe a product which also serves a grey area between these two. Generally all loudspeakers are technically near field systems. Unless you’re rigging a sound reinforcement system at an outdoor festival. Midfield is effectively a marketing term to describe loudspeakers which have a larger ‘sweet spot’ and can serve a larger space. But notwithstanding the above, this RARELY means a midfield system can’t serve a ‘near field’ setup. Yes there is some salt to topic of how big a room should be and how big your speakers should be, but this is rarely a truthful discussion amongst self proclaimed audiophiles. Through my knowledge and expertise in acoustics, this informed me to choose the A77H monitors myself. In fact, any loudspeaker that has more drivers which serve more frequencies, better, are technically superior. Providing you setup with a proper acoustic apex, you will rarely have an issue with any speaker system. So stemming from the above, I always tell people the whole speaker size thing is a load of nonsense. In extreme cases yes, but comparing an A7V monitor to the A77H is moot and pointless based on the above argument. In fact the A77H doesn’t even have 7” drivers. They are actually less than 6”. Food for thought for anyone reading this I suppose!! You don’t often get free knowledge from acousticians with years of experience, educated to masters etc… on this site or any other!
@noyz_music
@noyz_music 3 ай бұрын
​@@producermathew🙏
@ganymedevisuals8576
@ganymedevisuals8576 2 ай бұрын
The topic of this video is not what the title suggests, this a 14 minute advertisement for Adam Audio. Treat your viewers with a modicum of respect.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 2 ай бұрын
Apparently you’re in the small minority on that one! Overwhelming positive comments and like ratio. I’m not sure you watched the same video as everyone else 🙃
@beekay4906
@beekay4906 Ай бұрын
If we're going to talk about overwhelming minorities, the overwhelming majority of people aren't intelligent enough to see through your snake oil salesman charisma to recognise they're watching an advert for Adam Audio.
@samijones5183
@samijones5183 7 ай бұрын
After 7 minutes of the video posing useless questions I gave up. Get to the point quicker.
@gp5119
@gp5119 3 ай бұрын
I thot you have a good ear for sound. Can't you hear the general Ttss that comes out of the highs. It seems permanent. It s like all cymbals are made really flat, and fooled you with the transient effect...listen carefully. bro and then let me know
@carldock5223
@carldock5223 Жыл бұрын
Please SonicScoop, you video chapters. Greetings
@carldock5223
@carldock5223 Жыл бұрын
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