Sonic TALK 794 - Suno AI, VISCO, MT-32 vs FB-01 and momre

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[@BF-up5xw]

It's so good to have Yoad back. His insights are terrific, particularly about Visco which I spent some time demoing today. It's good and could speed up my workflow; but I suspect it isn't right for me - at least until further development. It was great to have Steve's insights too - again, the Nord Drum 3p recommendation is very welcome. And I have been looking into the Korg Wavedrum for a while. I'm not a great drummer either; but continuous practice is needed. I've done it before, and I would love the chance to get back into playing percussion. Sampleson have Haptic Perc which does a similar thing to the Wavedrum but with microphone input from any playing surface (or midi, as an alternative); so that may satisfy the itch somewhat.

[@acefstripe]

One day we are gonna miss our digital vs analog discussions as AI creeps further into the scene.. Great show and guests.

[@hvhvgitaar]

Yoad’s a clever guy…

[@badinibeats5939]

one of the most interesting chats ive heard on ai and alot deeper thoughts than the usual ai chats

[@PCoyte]

Must get my FB01 out of the cupboard - great bass and percussion sounds as I remember!

[@Dan81]

Anyone notice the broken guitar behind Yoad ? Did this happen at the Synth Expo 😂😂😂

[@MarkRigler]

Not sure that it's broken, perhaps he doing some work on it. The neck is just bolted on

[@Dan81]

@@MarkRigler I know, I was just referring to what Nick/Yoad was saying about how the guitars were smashing into each other at the synth expo.

[@MarkRigler]

@@Dan81 fair point

[@KordTaylor]

Really great conversations as usually. Liked Mr. Miller’s comment on generative AI songs. Of course as tools and training increases things will shift to the less generic.

[@leslie1526]

Excellent show, as usual ❤

[@richeymcc]

Another great show!🎉

[@DarrenLandrum]

Espen is the one who turned me on to the Jaspers keyboard stands, and for that I am ever grateful.

[@KordTaylor]

And Nick’s point of a rights grab was awesome. 👏🏻

[@Guitarisalways]

@SteveHillier, Rothko is one of my fav painters... Class! 🎉

[@VacancyOfDisco]

Wow that Suno AI song was a definitely a thing 😅😅😅

[@mybachhertzbaud3074]

Still enjoy playing around with my Roland LAPC-I. Just stick in an old pc box ,add power then play away.😁🎶🎹🎶 Play On

[@dxutube]

MOMRE

[@aaronmoore3050]

In suno ai, try the genre "castrato solo", right now. If they add midi file input, and solo vocals, I'll be sold.

[@sonicstate]

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[@michaelmayer775]

I really like the ai song.

[@thehowlingterror]

Machine learning/AI gives me a bad feeling. That feeling being any good it may offer it will take more away. Unfortunately the cat is out of the bag. Best of luck all.

[@rozzgrey801]

AI images and music make me feel nauseous, I can see or hear something that looks sounds wrong, not just obvious stuff like too many fingers, but a quality that seems horribly generic. AI can never create anything truly original or meaningfully unique like a human could, only offer amalgams of other stuff.

[@JoseGRendons]

Suno AI is a tool to create Jingles for publicity , TV and Radio Announcements

[@sonicstate]

Ah that could be it but again, pretty niche use case?

[@JoseGRendons]

indeed@@sonicstate

[@KordTaylor]

MT32 and GM in general was way cool. Got a lot of flack, but undeserved I think.

[@KlemenKotar]

Is the Sonic10 coupon valid on NI'S 9 for 99 sale as well?

[@sonicstate]

I think you can try it and see?

[@KlemenKotar]

@@sonicstate I did just now. It doesn't work on discounted items.

[@ArkaHtun]

I was in proper job this afternoon and im pretty sure the radio station they were playing ,had an AI version of the presenter /disk jockey .. I picked up on it within a minute and instantly it got my back up .. the aliasing was like a low bit rate mp3 sound ,horrible

[@leslie1526]

Brilliant sudo, Intriguing that is much better than Taylor 😂

[@leslie1526]

Conspiracy theory about T-shirt 😂

[@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328]

Regarding AI: Recent pop music has become so formalized, quantized, digitized that much of it already feels less human. Maybe the response to AI will be more raw "human" recordings. (Let's hope so).

[@neilloughran4437]

To be honest you can do a lot better with AI tools than the little demo shown here. I've just had a a few goes and out of the 5 or 6 goes at least 1 of them was actually ok if not something I actually like.... In some ways it really does represent the end of a certain kind of "run of the mill" music creation I think and let's face it most music has been run of the mill for quite a few decades now. We're still only a few steps from ground zero really and this is obviously going to get much bigger, better, more complex, sophisticated especially if you can extract stems, remix, transpose, integrate with DAWs... combine with the AI in video/animation and you'll have the complete package with just a few prompts some edits here and there and voila... It's clearly going to put a lot of people out of work (I couldn't even do my job without AI now)... but the cream will rise to the top I suppose.

[@MarkoDeLaVoota]

covid , dude....stop it already

[@subs4794]

I just got three ads in a row with a 15 second ad that couldn't be skipped. Was this a glitch or is this something KZbin is doing now? 💀💀💀💩💩💩

[@sonicstate]

I dunno they are a law unto themselves. You can always watch it on Patreon :-)

[@brhodes0]

AI generated ads.